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ubptgbot<TotalSonic> it isn't stable enough for regular use as far as I can tell00:07
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/lilr0qU4.png00:07
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Audacity works but is buggy as well00:07
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> but deffinite00:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> hmhm00:17
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [hmm was planning to use it with a yamaha psr-E333], how would you get midi in and out of your phone?00:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> usb otg00:34
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [usb otg], have you tested that this works yet?00:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> the kernel detects its presence00:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> that's all I know00:36
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [the kernel detects its presence], so it sees the midi stream?  is there a command line app that you could use?00:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> no idea still exploring00:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i only know it sees the keyboard00:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [usb otg], Or Bluetooth00:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> I don't think this one has bluetooth00:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Y0BRcLsA.png00:42
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> wheeee00:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> Ok00:46
hallynso, the ubports-installer is telling me at the same time "waiting for device to enter recovery mode" and underneath, in much smaller font, "Flashing recovery and boot images" . Does that mean it's copying data, or in fact stil lwaiting on the recover mode?02:41
hallynmy kingdom for a logfile02:41
hallynhaha, took longer than i expected, but confirmed it was not copying anything yet.02:42
hallynall right ,any way to have swype on the keyboard, i wonder?03:20
hallynruh roh - phone is hung03:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> porting or flashing?03:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ohw wait 'installer'03:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> sounds like a job for the install room03:37
hallynthird time was a charm, it did get installed (yay)03:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> @hallyn [all right ,any way to have swype on the keyboard, i wonder?], No. No swipe stuff for osk for now03:53
hallynthat's too bad :(03:54
hallynmy other q - what do you use for email on this thing?03:54
hallynevolution?  thunderbird? something else?03:55
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> dekko is the only one so far03:58
hallynok thx will try it.  I saw a "dekko 2", but it only told me it ws the new dekko, not what it did :)03:59
hallynnote that a search in the app tool for 'email' did not bring up dekko.  not sure if that's easy to make more discoverable...04:00
hallynhuh, actually i'm not finding dekko at all.04:02
ubptgbot<JasonMD> Ho, anyone else having problems with adb after upgrading to Disco?04:22
ubptgbot<JasonMD> Hi04:22
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @hallyn [my other q - what do you use for email on this thing?], Dekko 2 is the main (and currently best) option.  Otherwise there are webapps for things like Tutanota, Proton and Gmail.04:33
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @hallyn [huh, actually i'm not finding dekko at all.], it's in the Open Store at https://open-store.io/app/dekko2.dekkoproject04:34
hallynok, the description for dekko2 still said to not use it, to use dekko :)04:38
hallyndekko2 - i see (and see open bugs for) no way to refresh mail?04:38
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @hallyn [ok, the description for dekko2 still said to not use it, to use dekko :)], that message is out of date04:45
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @hallyn [dekko2 - i see (and see open bugs for) no way to refresh mail?], hold on messages and swipe downwards04:46
hallynhm, not seeing that.04:59
hallynmind you no mails have downloaded at all.  dovecot does show login successful, the folder list is accurate, and i was able to send an email...   weird05:06
hallynanyway will try again tomorrow.  thanks05:06
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @hallyn [mind you no mails have downloaded at all.  dovecot does show login successful, t …], It's important to have the account settings for the incoming and outgoing servers set correctly - e.g. I was not able to have my outgoing mail send properly until I changed from default of "plain" to "login"  for the authetication.05:37
ubptgbot<Xavi_R> A question for florian and the admins. I think that you are working principally in halium, because it's preferible to resolve these big question than resolve a lot of little bugs (zoom camera in opo, avi videos in n5, etc)06:38
ubptgbot<Xavi_R> I agree06:38
ubptgbot<Xavi_R> But when do you think that it will be a working halium environment?06:40
ubptgbot<Xavi_R> I think that the big problem is halium. Then libertine, anbox and the little bugs. But do you think?06:41
ubptgbotRAYMOND FORD was added by: RAYMOND FORD08:01
ubptgbot<RAYMOND FORD> (Photo, 1280x829) https://irc.ubports.com/uJfcv1gR.png hxjfoxkyl tzqmmqlfq08:01
ubptgbot<RAYMOND FORD> (Photo, 1280x829) https://irc.ubports.com/Tt97UWpK.png http://bit.ly/2YSqm9F?18008:01
ubptgbot<Visionalmind> Heej did ubports still needed professionally illustrated yumi characters? I can schedule some illustrations soon.08:17
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Visionalmind [Heej did ubports still needed professionally illustrated yumi characters? I can …], Try to coordinate yxourself here: https://forums.ubports.com/category/45/marketing-incubator08:20
ubptgbot<Visionalmind> Thanks08:21
ubptgbot<Hendrik> Hi together, short question: Has anyone ever tried to make FM radio available on the currently supported devices? FP2, Bq E4.5, Bq E5 and also the Sony Xperia X seem to have the necessary hardware. About the nexus phones I could not find a clear answer yet. I see that some people claim that the hardware is on board...08:57
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Hendrik [Hi together, short question: Has anyone ever tried to make FM radio available on …], It might need libhybris functions for that. And no, I dont think that was tried so far.08:58
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> I havent heard of anyone trying it, based on wgat ive read its a kernel config as well as if the hardware is wired for it.  Easiest way to find out if the hardware works is try it on android, not sure about kernel config09:01
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> [Edit] I havent heard of anyone trying it, based on what ive read its a kernel config as well as if the hardware is wired for it.  Easiest way to find out if the hardware works is try it on android, not sure about kernel config09:01
ubptgbot<Hendrik> Okay, thanks. Sounds like an interesting project !09:07
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> I will be trying it on my galaxy note 4 as that has FM Radio, but its low priority for my ROM atm09:13
ubptgbotLajov was added by: Lajov09:18
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> @Tygerpro [I will be trying it on my galaxy note 4 as that has FM Radio, but its low priori …], Did you know most Samsung phones have fmradio but Samsung disables it in kernel on most variant s09:19
ubptgbot<Lajov> Hi all, pleased to discover "telegram", this group... and the "ubuntu touch/Ub port", the name for the moment... sorry for my english. Is here the good place to ask for a question of compatibility ? I have got an old android tablet (google nexus 10 16Gb) ? does it works ? on google it seem some people try it, but what about the current vers09:28
ubptgbotion ? nexus 10 isn't in the available devices list on ubports.com .09:28
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Couldn't find a Halium port for it, you will have to port it yourself09:36
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> @J0SH1X [Did you know most Samsung phones have fmradio but Samsung disables it in kernel …], They do? I have had a lot of samsung devices, they all had working fm radio09:49
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> @Tygerpro [They do? I have had a lot of samsung devices, they all had working fm radio], where are you located09:49
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> ?09:49
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> U.S.A.09:49
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> its enabled in us09:49
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> and not in europe09:49
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> @Lajov [Hi all, pleased to discover "telegram", this group... and the "ubuntu touch/Ub p …], Nexus 10 was a supported device at one time, however it is no longer supported, you can certainly re-port it if you'd like, but I wouldnt cause it will be a slug compared to other devices09:51
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> Hmm ... thats interesting, I know there was a petition in the US awhile back to have fm radio enabled on all devices, i wonder if that was just US and not global09:53
ubptgbot<YougoChats> How does that work? You can’t just ‘switch it back on’ if the hardware just isn’t there?09:54
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Besides radio stations have been moving to digital radio (DAB+ ?) for a while now. Re enabling a dying medium makes little sense09:56
ubptgbot<Lajov> @Tygerpro [Nexus 10 was a supported device at one time, however it is no longer supported, …], thank you, so my nexus 10 will stay with is old android system ;) - enough powerful to read comics and to watch netflix.09:56
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> FM is done with the bluetooth chip, hardware enabled is basically if a wire is soldered to the pins for it.  Digital FM piggybacks off analog, i wish tv worked the same way09:57
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @Hendrik [Hi together, short question: Has anyone ever tried to make FM radio available on …], IIRC, someone tried it before....way back Canonical days..I think his name is Roman? … unfortunately it wasn't successful because I think FM radio is implemented differently on each device and might need help from the manufacturer09:59
ubptgbot<Javacookies> if the mailing list is still available online, you can try to check it from there10:00
ubptgbot<Javacookies> OMG, I feel old, I've been in the UT community for 7 years! 😂10:00
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @Tygerpro [FM is done with the bluetooth chip, hardware enabled is basically if a wire is s …], Ok, learned something. But remote soldering isn’t a thing yet, so it would only help new devices. Which makes it a global decision to be made by manufacturers.10:00
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Which also means It will not affect UT for a long time10:01
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> Well all my devices (except my Rpi's) have a working fm radio, even my old feature phones that have bluetooth, I didnt know it wasnt global though, FM is still widely used in US with analog, digital takes over if its a strong enough signal10:07
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> The only caveat ive come across in regards to FM is that most custom ROMs dont seem to have it enabled (at least the ones I tried)10:08
ubptgbot<YougoChats> If lineage doesn’t have it, it wont help to get it into Halium/UT10:14
ubptgbot<dikelito> The fairphone 3 is available for preorder. Is it going to be supported?10:21
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> @Tygerpro [Hmm ... thats interesting, I know there was a petition in the US awhile back to …], on other brands (not sammy) its enabled here in europe10:24
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> on my lg g7 i have fmradio on stock rom and lineageos10:25
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> my sony z1 also has it10:25
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> but my s6 for example doesnt10:25
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> but s6 sprint does for sure10:25
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> Weird, i tried LOS and it couldnt detect a fm radio, but if it works in factory but not LOS it likely is just a kernel config10:26
ubptgbot<Hendrik> @Tygerpro [Hmm ... thats interesting, I know there was a petition in the US awhile back to …], Do you mean this one? https://freeradioonmyphone.org/10:31
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> That looks like it10:31
ubptgbot<YougoChats> @dikelito [The fairphone 3 is available for preorder. Is it going to be supported?], i certainly hope so. Fairphone's philosophy meshes quite well with running an open source secure OS on it :-) it is a completely new device though, and porting to a device currently involves having a suitable version of lineage os for it. the android v10:32
ubptgbotersion on it, even if it is Fairphone's Open version, will likely be too new for now10:32
ubptgbot<Tygerpro> If someone has the means to buy one, potentially brick it, and port it, then it will eventually be supported10:33
ubptgbot<YougoChats> please someone prove me wrong 🙏10:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Javacookies [OMG, I feel old, I've been in the UT community for 7 years! 😂], ohhhh10:49
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> fairphone should mainline their drivers :p10:52
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> probably not up to them tho10:54
ubptgbot<Flohack> @Fuseteam [fairphone should mainline their drivers :p], Well, first, they are not their drivers 😆11:03
ubptgbot<Flohack> @dikelito [The fairphone 3 is available for preorder. Is it going to be supported?], Nobody told us in time, so the answer is: We dont know11:03
ubptgbot<Flohack> But as its Adnroid 9, it needs to wait like all other Halium ports for the compatibility to be there11:04
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> @Flohack would you mind checking out my kernel log , if i use ut as rootfs my kernel crashes11:04
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> reference fs and plasma work tho11:04
ubptgbot<Flohack> @J0SH1X [@Flohack would you mind checking out my kernel log , if i use ut as rootfs my ke …], Send pastebin plz11:04
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> okay11:04
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> @Flohack [Send pastebin plz], https://pastebin.com/kUSBBz2Q11:05
ubptgbot<Flohack> @J0SH1X [okay], Can we move to Halium group, this is not the right place ^^11:07
ubptgbot<J0SH1X> okay11:07
ubptgbot<Артём Деренговский> If someone needs to expand the system from 2GB to 6GB. Go to recovery mode UBports:  … simbion@simbion:~/1$ adb devices … simbion@simbion:~/1$ adb pull /data/system.img … simbion@simbion:~/1$ dd if=/dev/null of=system.img bs=1M seek=6144 count=0 … simbion@simbion:~/1$ e2fsck -p system.img … simbion@simbion:~/1$ resize2fs system11:44
ubptgbot.img … simbion@simbion:~/1$ adb push system.img /data … Reboot the device and rejoice.11:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Артём Деренговский [If someone needs to expand the system from 2GB to 6GB. Go to recovery mode UBpor …], Nobody needs to do this, and it is not supported, and can be overwritten with updates11:52
ubptgbotJEANETT RINGGOLD was added by: JEANETT RINGGOLD12:04
ubptgbot<JEANETT RINGGOLD> (Photo, 1280x743) https://irc.ubports.com/xjqtvCsp.png au iesllt shqepgk wpyf12:04
ubptgbot<JEANETT RINGGOLD> (Photo, 1280x743) https://irc.ubports.com/KGOIv6sX.png http://bit.ly/2YOSIBB?88212:04
ubptgbot<jamesisaweeb> is ubuntu touch for the nexus 7 only for the 2013 version or will it work on the 2012 version as well?13:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> 2013 only.13:56
ubptgbot<jamesisaweeb> ah okay13:57
hallynOn Dekko: So after about an hour, emails suddenly showed up (I hope it doesn't insist on reading *all* the headers for all emails in all my folders, because the lkml folder is unwieldy).  But now when I try to read most emails, it crashes.  Tried to run dekko from the terminal to see if I could see a crash dump, but I guess it's not a binary called dekko?14:14
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Apps are started in a specific way by Upstart, you'll find their logs in `.cache/upstart/`14:16
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> In your home folder14:16
hallyncool thanks14:20
hallyndekko *does* look really nice, if i can get it to not crash, it may be my favorite mobile mail app :)14:21
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @dikelito [The fairphone 3 is available for preorder. Is it going to be supported?], Well they made a Poll about which OS should be supported and UBports won the poll but It doesn't looks like it will be supported for now..............14:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's still a little early days and its authors always appreciate some help14:24
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But it takes beauty in stride, no doubt14:24
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Flohack [Well, first, they are not their drivers 😆], xD14:25
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> https://forum.fairphone.com/t/poll-what-os-es-do-you-want-to-run-on-your-next-fairphone-fp3-or-later/4451914:25
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> second place....14:25
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> anyways..14:25
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @Ingo_FP_Angel  Do you know anything that might be important for UBports related to the FP3?14:26
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Flohack [Well, first, they are not their drivers 😆], [Edit] read the message below that xD14:27
hallynohey - is there a url to a cheatsheet for things like "which snap provides the source for the on screen keyboard" (equiv of 'p=$(dpkg -S `which osk`); apt-cache show $p; pull-lp-source' etc?)14:27
hallyn'ubports for ubuntu developers' mayhaps14:27
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> do you mean docs?14:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> docs.ubports.com perhaps?14:29
ubptgbot<dohbee> @hallyn [ohey - is there a url to a cheatsheet for things like "which snap provides the s …], we don't use snaps. rootfs is built from debs, with a few default apps being clicks.14:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [do you mean docs?], i don't think it lists what repos provide the source for various components though14:31
hallynsorry yeah i meant "which click package"14:32
hallyni'll snoop around those docs, thanks14:32
hallyn(not i the next few hours unfort :)14:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> @hallyn [sorry yeah i meant "which click package"], system components are debs; in case of osk, the deb is `ubuntu-keyboard` and the source repo is https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component14:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> for pre-installed apps, they should all e under https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps14:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> for the ones that are clicks anyway14:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> dialer/messaging/settings are on github, and openstore is https://gitlab.com/theopenstore/openstore-app14:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [i don't think it lists what repos provide the source for various components thou …], ah true14:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [i don't think it lists what repos provide the source for various components thou …], [Edit] most of the links you just shared are iirc14:40
ubptgbot<Ingo_FP_Angel> @malditobastardo [@Ingo_FP_Angel  Do you know anything that might be important for UBports related …], It comes with Android 9 (Pie). As far as I understood, halium can't cope with that yet. … The FP3 will have an unlockable bootloader. … Unfortunately I don't know yet, if they'll provide a Fairphone Open OS incl. Sources right from14:42
ubptgbot the start.14:42
hallyn@dohbee - thanks!14:52
ubptgbot<giovanniiannotti> Hi guys,15:36
ubptgbot<giovanniiannotti> Hi guys, … My Nexus 5 disapeared from my work place.I need a new phone. Can you, please, confirm that this one is compatible? And, if so,how does it compare to N5? Thanks. … https://www.ebay.com/itm/254339532253?ul_noapp=true15:38
ubptgbotL_51lv3str1 was added by: L_51lv3str115:38
ubptgbot<giovanniiannotti> [Edit] Hi guys, … My Nexus 5 disapeared from my work place.I need a new phone. Could you, please, confirm that this one is compatible? And, if so,how does it compare to N5? Thanks. … https://www.ebay.com/itm/254339532253?ul_noapp=true15:40
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @giovanniiannotti [Hi guys, … My Nexus 5 disapeared from my work place.I need a new phone. Could you, …], One difference you'll notice: the OPO is quite a bit bigger.  I didn't like the fit in my hand as much as the N5.15:42
ubptgbot<giovanniiannotti> @imraniqbal [One difference you'll notice: the OPO is quite a bit bigger.  I didn't like the …], Thanks, myii. But do you confirm it the  compatible OPO? In ubports website, it says "bacon", not sure what it means.15:44
ubptgbotRosjose was added by: Rosjose15:45
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @giovanniiannotti [Thanks, myii. But do you confirm it the  compatible OPO? In ubports website, it …], Bacon is just the nickname for the opo, every OnePlus one should work perfectly with Ubuntu touch. … Idk how it compares to the 5, but if you want a device that preforms better, then we have newer phones being ported, and new r15:50
ubptgboteleases of phones like the pinephone.15:50
ubptgbot<giovanniiannotti> @PhoenixLandPirate [Bacon is just the nickname for the opo, every OnePlus one should work perfectly …], Thanks, Phoenix. Are these new phones immediatly available?15:52
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> Unfortunately not yet, I'm not sure when they'll be available. … The op3 port is coming along very well tho, and the pinephone is getting a good amount of attention, they should all be available before Christmas, but we'll have to see. … However, if you need something now, the opo is a great option.15:56
ubptgbot<giovanniiannotti> @PhoenixLandPirate [Unfortunately not yet, I'm not sure when they'll be available. … The op3 port is …], Excellent! Thank you very much.15:57
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> You're very welcome!15:57
ubptgbot<Lakotaubp> @giovanniiannotti [Excellent! Thank you very much.], Yes OPO works really well though there is no working zoom on the camera. Other than that I prefer it to the 5.16:08
ubptgbot<giovanniiannotti> @Lakotaubp [Yes OPO works really well though there is no working zoom on the camera. Other t …], Thank you, Nigel, for your feedback. I don't think zooming is something I would care about. If it is reliable, it is good enough.16:10
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @giovanniiannotti [Thank you, Nigel, for your feedback. I don't think zooming is something I would …], Go for it16:14
ubptgbot<giovanniiannotti> @malditobastardo [Go for it], 👍🏻16:15
hallynhm, call came in, screen froze, could not answre.17:02
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @giovanniiannotti [Thanks, myii. But do you confirm it the  compatible OPO? In ubports website, it …], the OnePlus One works excellently with UT - it was my daily driver for many months  (I am on a Meizu Pro 5 now).  It's advantages over the Nexus 5 are faster cpu, more RAM, more storage (if you get the 64gb version), larger display, b17:07
ubptgbotetter battery life, better video playback, and ability to send to an external display via wifi.  It's disadvantages are that the flash and zoom are currently not working for the camera.17:07
ubptgbot<guyluz> First result in google for the search "android alternative". What a bad image of ubuntu touch https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/17:08
ubptgbot<guyluz> (Photo, 799x450) https://irc.ubports.com/eclH6jq9.png17:10
ubptgbot<guyluz> Do we need to say something? The article was published on August 19, 201917:11
ubptgbot<Flohack> @guyluz [Do we need to say something? The article was published on August 19, 2019], They really need to change the screenshot!!!17:22
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Gotta send them the better ones then17:23
ubptgbot<Danfro> If there is no desired order of OS in that article, he could place UT at the first position, couldn't he? 😉17:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> what the heck is that image even from?17:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Flohack [They really need to change the screenshot!!!], that's not a screenshot for sure. it looks like some crappy feature phone theme17:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> and a mock-up for one at that17:26
ubptgbot<Danfro> True, or does any phone with UT have got those green and red buttons at the bottom?17:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Danfro [True, or does any phone with UT have got those green and red buttons at the bott …], no, no UT phones have soft buttons like feature phones17:27
ubptgbot<Danfro> Yep, that was my knowledge too.17:28
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> with that size looks like a ubports-pod 😆 It could play music?17:28
ubptgbotMelk_Lima was added by: Melk_Lima17:50
ubptgbot<guyluz> @Danfro [If there is no desired order of OS in that article, he could place UT at the fir …], 😂 good suggestion17:52
ubptgbot<Javacookies> the author should be really questioned about that image, should always make sure images represent correct data, not just the words17:54
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Eh, just help a bro out by giving them some better imagery17:54
ubptgbot<Flohack> @UniversalSuperBox [Eh, just help a bro out by giving them some better imagery], On it, commented and suggested artwork upgrade18:03
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Thanks18:03
ubptgbot<dynasty17> Great to see pure maps in the store. Nice nav appeared!!!18:35
ubptgbot<dynasty17> [Edit] Great to see pure maps in the store. Nice nav app!!18:36
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @dynasty17 [Great to see pure maps in the store. Nice nav app!!], But it your GPS working yet...?!18:37
ubptgbot<dynasty17> It is working now on Fairphone2. I reinstalled android on nexus 5 so I will wait to check. I will stick with fairphone for now!!!18:39
ubptgbot<dynasty17> OTA10 fixed it. I imagine aGPS in next update will make it really efficient.18:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> OTA11 will not bring more advanced agps to the image, btw18:42
ubptgbot<hacker12455> hmm, someone should update the screenshots I think18:49
ubptgbot<hacker12455> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch18:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, it shoul dporbably not say "Final Release"18:51
ubptgbot<FinlayDaG33k> @dohbee [well, it shoul dporbably not say "Final Release"], I second this :p18:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> [Edit] well, it should porbably not say "Final Release"18:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> [Edit] well, it should probably not say "Final Release"18:54
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The people working on the project aren't supposed to edit the Wikipedia page, so we'd appreciate if you did so18:55
ubptgbot<hacker12455> @dohbee [well, it should probably not say "Final Release"], hmm, what could be a good name?18:58
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Current Release?18:58
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yeah, final release implies dead18:58
ubptgbot<hacker12455> yeah18:58
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Any good images I could use?18:59
ubptgbot<imraniqbal> @dynasty17 [OTA10 fixed it. I imagine aGPS in next update will make it really efficient.], Fixed the N5 or the FP2?19:01
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Hmm, how can I edit it so that it does not say Final Release?19:01
ubptgbot<hacker12455> ```| latest_release_version = 16.04 OTA-9 … | latest_release_date    = {{Release date|2019|5|8|df=yes}}<ref>{{cite web|title=Ubuntu Touch OTA-9 Release|url=https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-blog-1/post/ubuntu-touch-ota-9-release-225|website=UBports Blog|date=8 May 2019|accessdate=14 May 2019}}</ref>```19:01
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I'm not sure. It might be something further in the table.19:01
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Can't find anything19:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> well if there's a variable called `latest_release_version` then it should probably be `Latest Release` in the sidebar19:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> @hacker12455 [Any good images I could use?], maybe starting from https://ubports.com/devices/promoted-devices you could find some i guess19:03
ubptgbot<hacker12455> The weird thing is that the same variable on the Windows wiki page says Latest release19:04
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I'm trying to find some originals for the files on the website and elsewhere19:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> No dice19:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Wait, here it is!19:07
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Can't seem to fix the release thing19:08
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/BMO8TfM5.png19:09
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Yep, that looks good.19:09
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Since it's from the website, it's all CC-BY-SA 4.019:09
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/19:10
ubptgbot<Kazord> @UniversalSuperBox [<reply to media>], Rip scope on the screen shots19:11
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well if you've got some new ones you'd like to share, they also work19:12
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Can I upload it to Wikimedia Commons and use it normally in the English Wikipedia?19:12
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I think that's how that works, I've never used Wikipedia19:12
ubptgbot<hacker12455> What should I put in the Author and Source?19:13
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The author appears to be in the EXIF data for the image, "Jolien Holthuis"19:16
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Source?19:16
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Does it want a URL?19:16
ubptgbot<hacker12455> It can be a URL19:17
ubptgbot<hacker12455> It accepts any text19:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well I kinda just gave it to you, but we can assume it was posted at ubports.com at some point in the past or present19:18
ubptgbot<hacker12455> So put in ubports.com?19:18
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Sure19:18
ubptgbot<hacker12455> alright19:18
ubptgbot<hacker12455> When was it made or published?19:21
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Btw, is that description good?19:23
ubptgbot<hacker12455> (Photo, 924x691) https://irc.ubports.com/JLo6oLqn.png19:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> 24 Jan 201819:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> All the same information for this image19:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/JQIu8Px0.png19:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Whichever you prefer for your edit19:24
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @hacker12455 [<reply to media>], Sure?19:24
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Hmm, change the Apps scope text to something else?19:25
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Or keep it as is?19:25
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> ?19:26
ubptgbot<hacker12455> "A [[Fairphone 2]] smartphone running Ubuntu Touch displaying the Apps scope"19:27
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Sure19:28
ubptgbot<hacker12455> So keeping as it is19:28
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Any replacements for this image?19:30
ubptgbot<hacker12455> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Ubuntu-smartphone.png/220px-Ubuntu-smartphone.png19:30
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Would you take another Fairphone 2?19:30
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Sure19:30
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well I have just the thing19:31
ubptgbot<hacker12455> The old images were both the Nexus so...19:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/7eq2S4K3.png19:31
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Uses the 15.04 wallpaper, but oh well the design didn't change19:31
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Keep the Welcome screen name?19:33
ubptgbot<hacker12455> "Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview 13.04 on a Galaxy Nexus, showing the Welcome screen:19:33
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's the lockscreen, I'd call the wizard the welcome screen19:33
ubptgbot<hacker12455> [Edit] "Ubuntu Touch Developer Preview 13.04 on a Galaxy Nexus, showing the Welcome screen"19:33
ubptgbot<hacker12455> yeah19:33
ubptgbot<dynasty17> @dohbee [OTA11 will not bring more advanced agps to the image, btw], No problem. I was just going on comments in recent podcast.19:36
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Put the same date in? @UniversalSuperBox19:37
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yep19:37
ubptgbot<hacker12455> What should I replace this image with?19:43
ubptgbot<hacker12455> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Ubuntu_Touch_2015-02-06_Apps_screen.png/200px-Ubuntu_Touch_2015-02-06_Apps_screen.png19:43
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Pure Maps awesomeness!  downloaded and donated19:43
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @hacker12455 [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/12/Ubuntu_Touch_2015-02-0 …], Is that the main image?19:44
ubptgbot<hacker12455> yes19:45
ubptgbot<hacker12455> The one shown on the sidebar19:45
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I just took this19:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/52qko0eR.png19:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> CC0 https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc0/19:47
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Hmm, can you take one with all of the installed apps shown?19:49
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hmm, maybe I should put edge back on my Nexus 7 and use that19:50
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It'll be a few minutes19:50
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Alright19:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> should it be a screen of edge, or of stable?19:51
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Maybe it doesn't matter so much19:51
ubptgbot<hacker12455> I think stable19:52
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Since that would show the experience that most users installing UT first time would have19:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Okay, that works. I'll take one with another device19:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Ah, my FP2 is stock19:53
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/OO07KW07.png19:54
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Ideally it should probably have some special time of day shown19:54
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But, uh, I don't know what time that is19:54
ubptgbot<hacker12455> hmm, what should I put as the source?19:56
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Telegram?19:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Me?19:56
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Well, the description says where did it come from19:56
ubptgbot<hacker12455> I can put you as the author and the source19:57
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> That sounds fine. I just gave it to you and stuff.19:57
ubptgbot<hacker12455> What license?19:58
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> CC019:58
ubptgbot<hacker12455> updated the images and the OTA version20:03
ubptgbot<hacker12455> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch20:03
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> You're awesome! Thank you20:03
ubptgbot<hacker12455> np20:03
ubptgbot<hacker12455> now that reminded me that I should reinstall UT and debug bugs on the Moto G5 port20:04
ubptgbot<hacker12455> I'll always help my favourite projects 😉20:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> You may find some things have been automagically solved since the last time you tried20:08
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> And we're making headway in the audio space20:08
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Yeah I know20:12
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Well last time I tried was yesterday so... :)20:13
hallynis there an ssh-import-id package?20:31
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @UniversalSuperBox [Ideally it should probably have some special time of day shown], 16.04 probably20:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> @hallyn [is there an ssh-import-id package?], you could install it inside a libertine container i guess, from the ubuntu repo20:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I reviewed the commits that I squashed into this commit, now I need a review so I can merge it: https://github.com/ubports/keyboard-component/pull/8720:44
gitbotubports issue (Pull request) 87 in keyboard-component "Quality changes to French-Swiss keyboard" [Open]20:44
ubptgbot<nfsprodriver> Does anyone have aida64 installed on his phone?21:42
ubptgbot<FinlayDaG33k> on my droid ye21:42
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ubptgbot<YougoChats> The battery indicator on my fp2 16.04 devel keeps switching between charging and idle, turning the screen on every time, driving me nuts. Also the phone feels warm, and the battery indicator doesnt give the right percentage, as it is stuck at one percentage, and jumps up after a power cycle with battery-pull22:26
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Tried different cables and fixating the phone and plug/port.22:27
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> can anyone else confirm that sode stage view is broken for Nexus 7 2013 LTE (deb)?22:44
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> [Edit] can anyone else confirm that side stage view is broken for Nexus 7 2013 LTE (deb)?22:44
ubptgbot<FinlayDaG33k> @YougoChats [The battery indicator on my fp2 16.04 devel keeps switching between charging and …], Does this only happen with 16.04 devel? because that sounds like something *might* be broken on your phone as well...23:08
ubptgbot<JonRG> @TotalSonic [can anyone else confirm that side stage view is broken for Nexus 7 2013 LTE (deb …], i could help you, but I dont know what side stage view is23:35
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Tap the app you're using with three fingers23:35
ubptgbot<JonRG> thnx, will try23:36
ubptgbot<JonRG> (Photo, 1920x1200) https://irc.ubports.com/UU0GYlrO.png23:40
ubptgbot<JonRG> (Photo, 1200x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/xOfecvGS.png23:42
ubptgbot<JonRG> is it supposed to do that? notice the handles on the terminal23:43
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @JonRG [is it supposed to do that? notice the handles on the terminal], side stage view is for when it is in regular tablet mode and not in windowed desktop mode.  But the 3 finger tap is supposed to engage these handles in windowed mode23:46
ubptgbot<JonRG> it doesn't do anything in normal mode23:48
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> thanks! same problem here23:51
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It will only work if the tablet is in landscape23:51
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> yup - should have mentioned that too23:51

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