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didrocksgood morning06:25
jibelhi all06:28
Laneyi like to move it move it06:29
Laneyhey HEY06:29
didrockshey jibel, Laney06:34
jibelhi didrocks, how's life?06:34
didrocksjibel: quite good, hoping to finish the pile of backlog with the MIR feedback writing today + some tweaks, and you?06:36
jibeldidrocks, good good. Trying to bypass partman in ubiquity to teach it zfs.06:37
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:42
seb128goood morning desktopers06:43
seb128lut oSoMoN, didrocks, jibel, en forme ?06:43
oSoMoNsalut seb12806:43
oSoMoNça va bien, et toi?06:43
jibelsalut seb128, en forme et toi? pas trop chaud en grèce?06:43
seb128chaudement mais ça va :)06:43
seb128jibel, un peu chaud mais y a la clim a l'hotel donc y a moyen de dormir et récupérer :)06:44
didrocksseb128: ça va, et toi ?06:45
seb128ça va !06:45
didrockssalut oSoMoN06:45
seb128new GNOME landed \o/ :)06:45
didrocksnice06:47
oSoMoNsalut didrocks!06:52
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dufluMorning didrocks, jibel, Laney, oSoMoN07:11
didrockshey duflu07:12
oSoMoNhey duflu07:22
Laneyhey didrocks jibel oSoMoN07:43
Laneyflatpak's tests which were consistently failing yesterday (and I was bisecting) now work today07:44
Laney:(07:44
seb128maybe some other updates fixed it?07:45
Laneyindeed07:47
Laneythings getting randomly better/worse is worrying07:47
seb128yeah...07:48
seb128should we retry one test on the infra to see if that's fixed as well meanwhile?07:49
seb128I'm happy also to try locally if that's useful07:49
Laneydid it already07:49
Laneyit is passing there too07:49
Laneyso i guess glib will go in, which is nice07:50
seb128sorry you don't get to know what was buggy :/07:51
dufluMorning seb12807:51
seb128hey duflu , how are you?07:51
dufluseb128, going OK. You?07:52
seb128I'm good, in a GUADEC session about vendor theming07:52
seb128and flying back in the afternoon07:52
dufluI didn't google the place. What's it like?07:52
* duflu googles it and is instantly jealous 07:53
seb128hot :)07:57
seb128the city itself is mostly a big city with old buildings and concrete, also no beach or such in the side07:58
seb128but we found some nice food places and bar and GUADEC is nice :)07:58
willcookeMorning all!08:01
didrockshey willcooke08:02
willcookeHow goes didrocks08:03
willcooke?08:03
dufluMorning willcooke08:03
willcookeafternoon duflu08:03
seb128hey willcooke, wb! had good holidays? seems like you have been successful in staying away from emails/irc/etc :)08:03
didrockswillcooke: I'm fine, thanks! Yourself?08:03
willcookeseb128, yeah, tried my best.  I checked my mail a couple of times but nothing seemed too bad.  Thank you!08:05
willcookedidrocks, long backlog of email to sort out, yay08:05
didrocksgood luck!08:06
willcookeman, the wallpaper comp has been super busy in the last two weeks.  I think I will close it on Friday to give me enough time to sort out the voting08:10
dufluwillcooke, I think the quality is increasing08:12
dufluHas it been open longer than usual?08:12
willcookeMaybe a little bit longer than last time, but not much, like a week or two.  But 2X the number of entries at least08:15
oSoMoNand really good entries, too08:19
oSoMoNgood morning Laney, willcooke08:19
willcookehi oSoMoN08:20
seb128willcooke, can you create the discourse Team Update for next week?09:19
Laneywb willcooke09:24
LaneyoSoMoN: ok final leg of your trip in the end?09:25
oSoMoNLaney, yeah, had to get up at 4:30am to go to the airport, but everything went smoothly09:27
Laney/o\09:27
Laneythat always sucks09:27
Laneysometimes they have the sad hotel pre-breakfast as a consolation prize09:27
willcookeseb128, done09:33
willcookehi Laney09:33
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Laneydidrocks: could you demote-to-proposed some shell extensions that aren't compatible with 3.33 please?11:43
Laneygnome-shell-extension-bluetooth-quick-connect, gnome-shell-extension-easyscreencast, gnome-shell-extension-top-icons-plus11:43
didrocksLaney: by demoting to proposed, I guess you mean: 1. copying them to proposed, 2. removing from the release pocket?11:44
Laneydidrocks: yeah, but demote-to-proposed is a script to do that11:44
Laneyin lp:ubuntu-archive-tools I think11:44
didrockswaow, things are moderned11:44
didrocks:)11:44
Laney:>11:45
LaneyTYL11:45
didrocksindeed, it's there, let me do this11:45
Laneythanks!11:45
Laneybtw, if other people ever request this you need to make sure that they won't just migrate straight back in11:45
didrocksyeah11:46
didrocksofc :)11:46
Laneye.g. I just committed https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu/revision/384611:46
Laneybecause just copying them back would be valid11:46
Laneybut WRONG11:46
didrocksthat are Breaks: on the package itself, no?11:46
didrocksbut then, you need a hint for having g-s migrated11:46
Laneybritney could decide to either copy the extensions back, or the gnome-shell group11:47
Laneynot both, because of the depends indeed11:48
didrocksah, indeed11:48
Laneyso we need to hint it which side to choose11:48
didrocksso you can get back to the same situation and the Shell stuck…11:48
didrocksyep11:48
didrocksmakes sense11:48
Laneyand it will not be able to choose the shell one until unity's built11:48
Laneyso without that block we'll lose :p11:48
didrocksLaney: "3 packages successfully demoted."11:48
Laneythanks!11:48
didrocksdon't thank me, I didn't paste the 3 packages I demoted :p11:49
didrocks;)11:49
didrocks(j/k)11:49
Laneylinux, bash, perl11:49
didrocksheh11:50
didrocksdon't tempt me with perl :p11:50
Laneyor dash would be better11:50
Laney:D11:50
didrocksyeah ;)11:50
didrocksthe funny part IIRC, is that I will be now the one receiving the email for "package X stuck in proposed for Y days"11:51
Laneyheh11:52
LaneyI guess you should, indeed11:52
* Laney is nervous about this migrating11:56
seb128tkamppeter, hey, did you see my email about cups and cpdb-libs autopkgtest? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/c/cpdb-libs/eoan/amd6413:06
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Laneywelp13:26
Laneyit went in13:26
oSoMoNLaney, I wasn't able to find the switch for gbp to specify a commit id instead of a tag to build a tarball, do you happen to remember it?13:28
LaneyoSoMoN: --upstream-vcs-tag13:29
Laneytag is lies, it means ref13:29
Laneys/ref/commit-ish/? #weirdgitterms13:29
oSoMoNah, that explains why I couldn't find it13:29
oSoMoNthanks!13:30
willcookeMeeting time!13:30
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-08-2713:31
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willcookeI've lost track of who is here and who is out, so I'll guess....13:31
* oSoMoN is here13:31
willcookeRoll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out), laney (outish?),  marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)13:32
Trevinhohalf-o/13:32
willcookeoh, seb is outish too13:32
jameshI'm half here too13:32
willcookehehe, hello chaps13:32
didrockshey13:32
willcookeLet's just press on then13:33
willcooke#topic rls-bb-incoming13:33
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willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:33
willcookeSounds like there is some history on the xkbd-config one13:34
willcookebut seems active, so can probably skip13:34
willcookeand the software properties one has a long history too13:35
willcookeMy feeling is that its a not fixing at this point since it's not easily reproducible by seb13:35
willcookehm, but there are enough people saying that they can reproduce it13:36
willcookeFeels like Seb is looking at that one, so I will leave it alone too and see if I can help test/reproduce once he's back13:36
willcooke#topic rls-dd-incoming13:37
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Laneythat's probably good to take and assign to him straight away I think13:37
Laneyoh ok :p13:37
willcookeLaney,  no, fair point, I will assign13:37
Laneyhe can argue / unassign if necessary13:37
willcookedone13:38
willcookeDD is clear13:38
willcooke#topic rls-ee-incoming13:38
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willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/184107913:39
ubot5Launchpad bug 1841079 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Speech Dispatcher and other non-human users should not be shown on LightdDM login screen and session menus" [High,Confirmed]13:39
willcookeSounds serious enough to ,e13:39
willcookeme13:39
willcookeAnyone like to take a look at this one?13:39
Laneyweird, it's supposed to filter that out13:39
Laneywait a second13:39
Laneylook who it is :D13:40
Laneyrobert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/184107913:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 1841079 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Speech Dispatcher and other non-human users should not be shown on LightdDM login screen and session menus" [High,Confirmed]13:40
willcookehaha13:41
willcookeI will assign it13:41
* Laney thinks it's a Robert thing not just because of LightDM but he's looked at that AS UID stuff in the passt13:41
Laneypasssssssssssssssssssssssst13:42
Laneyhe's partially distracted by gnome-control-center13:42
willcookeI've assigned it, lets see if he can help13:42
willcookeLaney, do you want to talk about proposed migrations today?13:43
Laneyumm13:43
Laneymaybe skip, its a bit of a mess but a bunch of stuff has just migrated13:44
willcookeroger13:44
willcooke#topic AOB13:44
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Laneywe should try to rouse Till for what seb128 just pinged him about13:44
Laneyre an autopkgtest13:44
Laneybut out of band is ok for that13:44
willcookeack13:44
willcookeI posted a new rls-bugs wiki post to the discourse this morning13:44
willcookejust fyi13:44
willcookeAnyone got anything to talk about>?13:45
tkamppeterYes, I have investigated the cpdb-libs autopkgtest issue during the last days.13:45
LaneyAH TILL13:45
LaneyI've been trying to get hold of you, did you see my messages about backporting https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/2f8a4e90f0fd0f900996e3081d49f8799bba4c6f ?13:45
Laney(doesn't need to be aob, you can end the meeting)13:46
willcookeack13:46
willcookelet's do taht13:46
willcooke#endmeeting13:46
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willcookethanks all13:46
oSoMoNthanks13:46
Laneytkamppeter: tkamppeter: tkamppeter: tkamppeter: tkamppeter: tktktktktktktktKTTKTKTKTKTKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK13:46
Laneyboom13:46
tkamppeterThis one I did not get, but about the Bionic NM bugs I got a mail from Dariusz that he decided on applying patches to 1.10.6 instead of advancing to 1.10.14.13:46
didrocksthanks13:46
Laneywell OK - would you be able to do that?13:47
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Laneyno comment on bionic, seems a shame but not up to me13:47
Laneywithout that commit I couldn't connect to some wifi networks on eoan, kinda bad13:48
jameshhttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/merge_requests/1067 seems to work locally13:54
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 1067 in glib "WIP: gdesktopappinfo: also use document portal for Snap applications" [Opened]13:54
tkamppeterLaney, I have looked into the commit now, you mean that you want to have this backported to Bionic? Is it already in Eoan?13:59
Laneytkamppeter: backported to eoan -  I don't think the issue affects bionic13:59
tkamppeterLaney, OK, so it has nothing to do with Bionic.14:00
tkamppeterI can add it to the Eoan package.14:00
Laneyyeah, that's the request14:01
Laneymaybe there's a bug, let me see14:01
Laneydon't see one14:02
Laneysurely I can't be the first person to see this14:02
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willcookenight all17:38

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