[06:25] <didrocks> good morning
[06:28] <jibel> hi all
[06:29] <Laney> i like to move it move it
[06:29] <Laney> hey HEY
[06:34] <didrocks> hey jibel, Laney
[06:34] <jibel> hi didrocks, how's life?
[06:36] <didrocks> jibel: quite good, hoping to finish the pile of backlog with the MIR feedback writing today + some tweaks, and you?
[06:37] <jibel> didrocks, good good. Trying to bypass partman in ubiquity to teach it zfs.
[06:42] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:43] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:43] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, didrocks, jibel, en forme ?
[06:43] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[06:43] <oSoMoN> ça va bien, et toi?
[06:43] <jibel> salut seb128, en forme et toi? pas trop chaud en grèce?
[06:43] <seb128> chaudement mais ça va :)
[06:44] <seb128> jibel, un peu chaud mais y a la clim a l'hotel donc y a moyen de dormir et récupérer :)
[06:45] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, et toi ?
[06:45] <seb128> ça va !
[06:45] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[06:45] <seb128> new GNOME landed \o/ :)
[06:47] <didrocks> nice
[06:52] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks!
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[07:11] <duflu> Morning didrocks, jibel, Laney, oSoMoN
[07:12] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:22] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:43] <Laney> hey didrocks jibel oSoMoN
[07:44] <Laney> flatpak's tests which were consistently failing yesterday (and I was bisecting) now work today
[07:44] <Laney> :(
[07:45] <seb128> maybe some other updates fixed it?
[07:47] <Laney> indeed
[07:47] <Laney> things getting randomly better/worse is worrying
[07:48] <seb128> yeah...
[07:49] <seb128> should we retry one test on the infra to see if that's fixed as well meanwhile?
[07:49] <seb128> I'm happy also to try locally if that's useful
[07:49] <Laney> did it already
[07:49] <Laney> it is passing there too
[07:50] <Laney> so i guess glib will go in, which is nice
[07:51] <seb128> sorry you don't get to know what was buggy :/
[07:51] <duflu> Morning seb128
[07:51] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you?
[07:52] <duflu> seb128, going OK. You?
[07:52] <seb128> I'm good, in a GUADEC session about vendor theming
[07:52] <seb128> and flying back in the afternoon
[07:52] <duflu> I didn't google the place. What's it like?
[07:53]  * duflu googles it and is instantly jealous 
[07:57] <seb128> hot :)
[07:58] <seb128> the city itself is mostly a big city with old buildings and concrete, also no beach or such in the side
[07:58] <seb128> but we found some nice food places and bar and GUADEC is nice :)
[08:01] <willcooke> Morning all!
[08:02] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:03] <willcooke> How goes didrocks
[08:03] <willcooke> ?
[08:03] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[08:03] <willcooke> afternoon duflu
[08:03] <seb128> hey willcooke, wb! had good holidays? seems like you have been successful in staying away from emails/irc/etc :)
[08:03] <didrocks> willcooke: I'm fine, thanks! Yourself?
[08:05] <willcooke> seb128, yeah, tried my best.  I checked my mail a couple of times but nothing seemed too bad.  Thank you!
[08:05] <willcooke> didrocks, long backlog of email to sort out, yay
[08:06] <didrocks> good luck!
[08:10] <willcooke> man, the wallpaper comp has been super busy in the last two weeks.  I think I will close it on Friday to give me enough time to sort out the voting
[08:12] <duflu> willcooke, I think the quality is increasing
[08:12] <duflu> Has it been open longer than usual?
[08:15] <willcooke> Maybe a little bit longer than last time, but not much, like a week or two.  But 2X the number of entries at least
[08:19] <oSoMoN> and really good entries, too
[08:19] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney, willcooke
[08:20] <willcooke> hi oSoMoN
[09:19] <seb128> willcooke, can you create the discourse Team Update for next week?
[09:24] <Laney> wb willcooke
[09:25] <Laney> oSoMoN: ok final leg of your trip in the end?
[09:27] <oSoMoN> Laney, yeah, had to get up at 4:30am to go to the airport, but everything went smoothly
[09:27] <Laney> /o\
[09:27] <Laney> that always sucks
[09:27] <Laney> sometimes they have the sad hotel pre-breakfast as a consolation prize
[09:33] <willcooke> seb128, done
[09:33] <willcooke> hi Laney
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[11:43] <Laney> didrocks: could you demote-to-proposed some shell extensions that aren't compatible with 3.33 please?
[11:43] <Laney> gnome-shell-extension-bluetooth-quick-connect, gnome-shell-extension-easyscreencast, gnome-shell-extension-top-icons-plus
[11:44] <didrocks> Laney: by demoting to proposed, I guess you mean: 1. copying them to proposed, 2. removing from the release pocket?
[11:44] <Laney> didrocks: yeah, but demote-to-proposed is a script to do that
[11:44] <Laney> in lp:ubuntu-archive-tools I think
[11:44] <didrocks> waow, things are moderned
[11:44] <didrocks> :)
[11:45] <Laney> :>
[11:45] <Laney> TYL
[11:45] <didrocks> indeed, it's there, let me do this
[11:45] <Laney> thanks!
[11:45] <Laney> btw, if other people ever request this you need to make sure that they won't just migrate straight back in
[11:46] <didrocks> yeah
[11:46] <didrocks> ofc :)
[11:46] <Laney> e.g. I just committed https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/britney/hints-ubuntu/revision/3846
[11:46] <Laney> because just copying them back would be valid
[11:46] <Laney> but WRONG
[11:46] <didrocks> that are Breaks: on the package itself, no?
[11:46] <didrocks> but then, you need a hint for having g-s migrated
[11:47] <Laney> britney could decide to either copy the extensions back, or the gnome-shell group
[11:48] <Laney> not both, because of the depends indeed
[11:48] <didrocks> ah, indeed
[11:48] <Laney> so we need to hint it which side to choose
[11:48] <didrocks> so you can get back to the same situation and the Shell stuck…
[11:48] <didrocks> yep
[11:48] <didrocks> makes sense
[11:48] <Laney> and it will not be able to choose the shell one until unity's built
[11:48] <Laney> so without that block we'll lose :p
[11:48] <didrocks> Laney: "3 packages successfully demoted."
[11:48] <Laney> thanks!
[11:49] <didrocks> don't thank me, I didn't paste the 3 packages I demoted :p
[11:49] <didrocks> ;)
[11:49] <didrocks> (j/k)
[11:49] <Laney> linux, bash, perl
[11:50] <didrocks> heh
[11:50] <didrocks> don't tempt me with perl :p
[11:50] <Laney> or dash would be better
[11:50] <Laney> :D
[11:50] <didrocks> yeah ;)
[11:51] <didrocks> the funny part IIRC, is that I will be now the one receiving the email for "package X stuck in proposed for Y days"
[11:52] <Laney> heh
[11:52] <Laney> I guess you should, indeed
[11:56]  * Laney is nervous about this migrating
[13:06] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, did you see my email about cups and cpdb-libs autopkgtest? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/c/cpdb-libs/eoan/amd64
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[13:26] <Laney> welp
[13:26] <Laney> it went in
[13:28] <oSoMoN> Laney, I wasn't able to find the switch for gbp to specify a commit id instead of a tag to build a tarball, do you happen to remember it?
[13:29] <Laney> oSoMoN: --upstream-vcs-tag
[13:29] <Laney> tag is lies, it means ref
[13:29] <Laney> s/ref/commit-ish/? #weirdgitterms
[13:29] <oSoMoN> ah, that explains why I couldn't find it
[13:30] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[13:30] <willcooke> Meeting time!
[13:31] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-08-27
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 27 13:31:12 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <willcooke> I've lost track of who is here and who is out, so I'll guess....
[13:31]  * oSoMoN is here
[13:32] <willcooke> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out), laney (outish?),  marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)
[13:32] <Trevinho> half-o/
[13:32] <willcooke> oh, seb is outish too
[13:32] <jamesh> I'm half here too
[13:32] <willcooke> hehe, hello chaps
[13:32] <didrocks> hey
[13:33] <willcooke> Let's just press on then
[13:33] <willcooke> #topic rls-bb-incoming
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[13:33] <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:34] <willcooke> Sounds like there is some history on the xkbd-config one
[13:34] <willcooke> but seems active, so can probably skip
[13:35] <willcooke> and the software properties one has a long history too
[13:35] <willcooke> My feeling is that its a not fixing at this point since it's not easily reproducible by seb
[13:36] <willcooke> hm, but there are enough people saying that they can reproduce it
[13:36] <willcooke> Feels like Seb is looking at that one, so I will leave it alone too and see if I can help test/reproduce once he's back
[13:37] <willcooke> #topic rls-dd-incoming
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[13:37] <Laney> that's probably good to take and assign to him straight away I think
[13:37] <Laney> oh ok :p
[13:37] <willcooke> Laney,  no, fair point, I will assign
[13:37] <Laney> he can argue / unassign if necessary
[13:38] <willcooke> done
[13:38] <willcooke> DD is clear
[13:38] <willcooke> #topic rls-ee-incoming
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[13:39] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/1841079
[13:39] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1841079 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Speech Dispatcher and other non-human users should not be shown on LightdDM login screen and session menus" [High,Confirmed]
[13:39] <willcooke> Sounds serious enough to ,e
[13:39] <willcooke> me
[13:39] <willcooke> Anyone like to take a look at this one?
[13:39] <Laney> weird, it's supposed to filter that out
[13:39] <Laney> wait a second
[13:40] <Laney> look who it is :D
[13:40] <Laney> robert_ancell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/1841079
[13:40] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1841079 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Speech Dispatcher and other non-human users should not be shown on LightdDM login screen and session menus" [High,Confirmed]
[13:41] <willcooke> haha
[13:41] <willcooke> I will assign it
[13:41]  * Laney thinks it's a Robert thing not just because of LightDM but he's looked at that AS UID stuff in the passt
[13:42] <Laney> passsssssssssssssssssssssst
[13:42] <Laney> he's partially distracted by gnome-control-center
[13:42] <willcooke> I've assigned it, lets see if he can help
[13:43] <willcooke> Laney, do you want to talk about proposed migrations today?
[13:43] <Laney> umm
[13:44] <Laney> maybe skip, its a bit of a mess but a bunch of stuff has just migrated
[13:44] <willcooke> roger
[13:44] <willcooke> #topic AOB
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[13:44] <Laney> we should try to rouse Till for what seb128 just pinged him about
[13:44] <Laney> re an autopkgtest
[13:44] <Laney> but out of band is ok for that
[13:44] <willcooke> ack
[13:44] <willcooke> I posted a new rls-bugs wiki post to the discourse this morning
[13:44] <willcooke> just fyi
[13:45] <willcooke> Anyone got anything to talk about>?
[13:45] <tkamppeter> Yes, I have investigated the cpdb-libs autopkgtest issue during the last days.
[13:45] <Laney> AH TILL
[13:45] <Laney> I've been trying to get hold of you, did you see my messages about backporting https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/2f8a4e90f0fd0f900996e3081d49f8799bba4c6f ?
[13:46] <Laney> (doesn't need to be aob, you can end the meeting)
[13:46] <willcooke> ack
[13:46] <willcooke> let's do taht
[13:46] <willcooke> #endmeeting
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[13:46] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 27 13:46:16 2019 UTC.
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[13:46] <willcooke> thanks all
[13:46] <oSoMoN> thanks
[13:46] <Laney> tkamppeter: tkamppeter: tkamppeter: tkamppeter: tkamppeter: tktktktktktktktKTTKTKTKTKTKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[13:46] <Laney> boom
[13:46] <tkamppeter> This one I did not get, but about the Bionic NM bugs I got a mail from Dariusz that he decided on applying patches to 1.10.6 instead of advancing to 1.10.14.
[13:46] <didrocks> thanks
[13:47] <Laney> well OK - would you be able to do that?
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[13:47] <Laney> no comment on bionic, seems a shame but not up to me
[13:48] <Laney> without that commit I couldn't connect to some wifi networks on eoan, kinda bad
[13:54] <jamesh> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/merge_requests/1067 seems to work locally
[13:54] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 1067 in glib "WIP: gdesktopappinfo: also use document portal for Snap applications" [Opened]
[13:59] <tkamppeter> Laney, I have looked into the commit now, you mean that you want to have this backported to Bionic? Is it already in Eoan?
[13:59] <Laney> tkamppeter: backported to eoan -  I don't think the issue affects bionic
[14:00] <tkamppeter> Laney, OK, so it has nothing to do with Bionic.
[14:00] <tkamppeter> I can add it to the Eoan package.
[14:01] <Laney> yeah, that's the request
[14:01] <Laney> maybe there's a bug, let me see
[14:02] <Laney> don't see one
[14:02] <Laney> surely I can't be the first person to see this
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[17:38] <willcooke> night all