[00:07] <brenster21> bashing-om so i got the fan out but i cant figure out how to unplug it. do you pull the cable out or slide the connector out.
[00:09] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Oh gosh .. Got me - Is there a need to even get the fan out of the way ?
[00:09] <brenster21> yes
[00:09] <brenster21> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVrBjyBPmVM is the teardown vedio i was using
[00:10] <brenster21> nevermind got it off
[00:11] <Bashing-om> brenster21: I do not run videos on this ole box as I too overheat - one of these days I got to redo the thermal paste.
[00:18] <brenster21> bashing-om two questions when should i replace the thermal paste, where can i buy some at 840 at night?
[00:24] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Replace the paste ( about a 5 year lifespan) when you can not determine any other reason for the CPU to be running hot. Thermal paste is "specialty" - can not get it just anywhere/anytime.
[00:25] <brenster21> I figured as much, for cleaning hte fan and heatsink. I should use compressed air and rubbing alchol right?
[00:27] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Yup .. and take care that when spraying that you do not over spin the fan blades- I hold them still with a pencil.
[00:27] <sarnold> maybe amazon prime can get you thermal paste on short notice?
[00:27] <brenster21> bashing-om should i use a cotton swab to hold the alcohol. (90 percent alcohol by volume)
[00:28] <brenster21> guess i am going to best buy tomorrow :(
[00:28] <brenster21> brb
[00:29] <Bashing-om> brenster21: cotton swab is good :) But the main concern is the dust. Make sure the air ducts are all clear.
[00:52] <brenster21> bashing-om that is what i am doing
[00:53] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Pay attention with the cotton swap not to leave threads about that will short out the circuitry :P
[00:54] <brenster21> bashing-om i will give you a second beer if you come over and help :P
[00:54] <N0Lif3> Ubuntu has frozen twice in one day
[00:54] <N0Lif3> it's unbelievable
[00:55] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Situation like that - only room for one pair of hands :P
[00:56] <brenster21> bashing-om your right, i will leave :P
[00:56] <Bashing-om> no_maam: Any hint is the syslog ?
[00:57] <Bashing-om> N0Lif3: ^^ no_maam Sorry - not paying attention to my tab complete :(
[00:58] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Ho-kay ... But if ya want something done right - do it; yopurself :D
[01:00] <brenster21> bashing-om your right, how do i tell the difference from dust and spongy fabric put on the heat sink
[01:15] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Heat pad rather than paste ? If a Pad, were me I would leave well enough alone - or change the Pad out ( consult the manufacturer ) with *maybe* a good paste compound.
[01:36] <brenster21> Bashing-om cleaned computer, still cant start :(
[01:39] <brenster21> I am going through the errors in journalctl so far i got some due to mounting externals acpai error no handler for region, acpi error region embedded control has no handler. method parce execution failed. Couldn't get size 0x800000000000000000000e no caching mode found assuming drive cache.
[01:41] <brenster21> wrong diagnotic page, failed to get diagnotistic page. and dev disk by uuid appeared twice with differeny sysfs paths
[01:46] <N0Lif3> is it common for Ubuntu to display WRONG information with the space I have available? According to it, My 240GB ssd is already halfway empty, 125.3GB free space when I have basically nothing on it. I've only installed a few programs. That's it.
[01:49] <genii> N0Lif3: Perhaps the partition you're using does not occupy the entirety of the drive's space
[01:49] <OerHeks> one thing comes in mind; growing xorg.log or .xsession-errors
[01:49] <N0Lif3> I setup ubuntu to use the full disk
[01:51] <N0Lif3> I checked it in gparted, it has the main partition and a 512MB EFI system partition.
[01:53] <N0Lif3> where the heck did all of my space go? Does Ubuntu itself take 100GB?
[01:55] <genii> No, should be more around 25-30
[02:01] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Pulled the data drivews ? such that all that is now connected is what is needed to only boot the system ?
[02:06] <brenster21> bashing-om i got the system to boot back to normal a few system errors but oh well it works for now.
[02:06] <brenster21> 2 of drives are correctly automounting, the other i need to manually mount not exactly sure why that it is.
[02:07] <genii> N0Lif3: To see what on the main filesystem ( aside from what is in the users' /home directories), you can use: sudo du -Sh / --exclude=/proc --exclude=/home| sort -rh | head -5
[02:07] <genii> ( for the top 5 directories which have the most stuff )
[02:08] <genii> Probable culprits are /var/log and /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:10] <Bashing-om> brenster21: That is good news - did you misconfigure /etc/fstab ? as a thought .
[02:10] <brenster21> yes had spaces
[02:12] <OerHeks> genii, does encryption the whole disk do this?
[02:12] <N0Lif3> I figured out the problem. I did have Steam setup to only download games to my secondary harddrive, but for some reason Steam disassocated with it, removed it from my list of download folders, and chose to only install to my SSD
[02:12] <OerHeks> oh
[02:15] <brenster21> bashing-om thank you for all your help today
[02:16] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Just holding a hand is all :D
[02:21] <N0Lif3> what's the proper way to use a secondary harddrive? Because Steam keeps disassocating with this location.
[02:21] <N0Lif3> https://i.imgur.com/tZlN3G6.png
[02:24] <OerHeks> steam has a manual for that
[02:24] <genii> N0Lif3: The /media path indicates it's being mounted on the fly when the system sees it. So likely Steam is defaulting to your main drive as a fallback when that one's not plugged in.
[02:25] <N0Lif3> what's the proper way to use a secondary harddrive?
[02:25] <N0Lif3> This is ridiculous.
[02:29] <OerHeks> depends how you installed steam, flatpak needs some tweaking > flatpak override --user --filesystem=/media/1.0TB-Hard-Disk com.valvesoftware.Steam
[02:31] <genii> Alternately you caould make some partition so tiny no files can be stored on it, then fstab entry for the second drive to mount there. If it's not plugged in you'll know because Steam or some other part of the system will complain there's no space
[02:56] <cluelessperson> hi there, is there a way to make a
[02:56] <cluelessperson> new keyboard key?
[02:56] <cluelessperson> and use that new keyboard key to trigger something?
[02:56] <cluelessperson> various applications use keyboard keys to perform events, right?  I was hoping to remap this keyboard key entirely.
[03:09] <JFox762> hi, I'm having an issue. I have VMWare installed. For some reason, vmnet1 keeps getting assigned 192.168.43.1/24 network range. This overlaps with my phone's hotspot network range... causing packets to get dropped. I modified the vmware DHCP configuration file at  /etc/vmware/vmnet1/dhcpd/dhcpd.conf to change the ip address to a different network range... but, upon reboot, the vmnet1's address keeps reverting
[03:09] <JFox762> to 192.168.43.0/24 range
[03:10] <JFox762> so upon reboot, i have to keep typing ifconfig -a 192.168.200.1 netmask 255.255.255.0.
[04:20] <NewToLubuntu> could someone recommend an alternate IRC program other than pidgin?
[04:20] <NewToLubuntu> it doesn't have a 'resume download' function for XDCC transfers so I'm having to restart each time I get an internet hiccup, makes large files very hard
[04:22] <tonyt> hexchat, kvirc are a couple of othr free irc clients
[04:22] <tonyt> quasel too. not sure about the spelling but you should be able to find it on google newtolubuntu
[04:23] <NewToLubuntu> do they all have a 'resume' function for xdcc?
[04:24] <tonyt> i have no idea abouut about the xdcc funtion, sorry
[04:24] <tonyt> *function
[04:24] <NewToLubuntu> I'll try your first mention, appears it does https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/417
[04:25] <tonyt> newtolubuntu you can also look into install something called Wine. wine will let you run the windows version of mirc or any other windows irc client
[04:25] <tonyt> use wine if the other 3 clients dont do what you are looking to do
[04:31] <NewToLubuntu> the thing about wine is I switched to linux to avoid resource consumption and emulating windows sounds resource intensive
[04:38] <NewToLubuntu> hm... it has a 'resume' button but it didn't give me the option to recognize existing file, unless I did it wrong...
[04:40] <NewToLubuntu> ah wait, I did, yo uhave to select the file or else it will try and make a new one wit ha slightly altered name like adding a space
[04:42] <JFox762> nevermind
[04:42] <JFox762> figured it out
[04:55] <lalitmee> Hey guys, I was trying to test i3 so I installed it now I am seeing that my notifications UI in Lubuntu 18.04 is changed
[04:55] <lalitmee> how to get it back to normal?
[04:57] <Bray90820> So on 19.04 i have auto login enabled every time I turn on the computer it says "The login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer"
[04:58] <Bray90820> How can I stop it from asking me for my password
[05:09] <NginUS> Noticed tonight my ufw rule stopped working. Had to turn the firewall off to connect. Had been fine for years, not sure what might do this.
[05:31] <NegativeFlare> Bray90820: you're gonna have to remove the password from the keyring, I forget how though
[05:37] <Bray90820> NegativeFlare: Thanks that actually worked
[05:38] <NegativeFlare> awesome, good to hear
[05:40] <Bray90820> I have another question my primary monitor with the dock and menubar seems to be labeled as 2 idk if that really is a problem or not
[05:40] <NegativeFlare> nah
[05:40] <Bray90820> Why is it labeled like that
[05:40] <NegativeFlare> Bray90820: its more of how the devices are assigned, not much to really worry about
[05:41] <NegativeFlare> the Kernel sees the first input before the other, so it assigns it as such.
[05:41] <NegativeFlare> My 3 monitor setup is hilarious, so don't worry much about it
[05:41] <Bray90820> Well until I restarted every file I created with touch was going to monitor 1 doesn't seem to be doing that anymore tho
[05:42] <Bray90820> So idk if that is an issue or not
[05:43] <NegativeFlare> Nah, as of right now your window manager is keeping up with all that
[05:45] <Bray90820> Alright
[05:45] <Bray90820> Thaoes are allmy questions for now
[05:45] <Bray90820> Thanks
[05:45] <NegativeFlare> alrighty, no problem
[05:56] <Bray90820> Ok I actually do have another question every time I restart my computer my bluetooth keyboard doesn't work until I hit any key and wait a few seconds
[05:56] <Bray90820> Is there a way to get it to connect automatically?
[05:57] <Bray90820> Actually it is any bluetooth device
[05:59] <NegativeFlare> I'm not sure honestly, I'm a "wired" type of guy lol
[06:02] <Bray90820> Thanks anyways
[06:10] <cluelessperson> I have an extra key on my keyboard I'd like to rebind somehow to use with another program.
[06:11] <cluelessperson> I've identified it as an ACPI key, and also a keyboard scan code for it
[06:11] <cluelessperson> but how do I map it so it's usable for other programs?
[06:13] <cluelessperson> I've figured out how to find acpi events and map them to trigger actions
[06:13] <cluelessperson> but not to create a custom/new keyboard key
[06:14]  * NegativeFlare ducks off to bed
[09:06] <de-facto> Do you guys know if its possible to push DNS to Ubuntu 18.04 when connecting with OpenVPN client via NetworkManager?
[09:11] <de-facto> I have an OpenVPN server on my OpenWRT router and want to push its DNS server to Ubuntu when i connect to the VPN via NetworkManager. Tried push 'dhcp-option DNS 10.111.111.1' but that does not land on the Ubuntu, neither resolv.conf nor NetworkManager seem to know about that
[09:15] <dionysus69> I have a situation
[09:15] <nexiu> hello. I have move my ubuntu vm machine to upgraded host pc and now it obtain a valid ip from dhcp server but I cant ping any www
[09:15] <nexiu> But I can access local lan www servers
[09:15] <dionysus69> 5gb and 3gb swap full, I open system monitor and biggest process taking ram is 250mb RAM, how do I figure out what is taking so much RAM?
[09:15] <nexiu> try create a new one but it stucks on boot splash screen
[09:18] <de-facto> nexiu, #vbox ?
[09:19] <nexiu> vmware, but its network issue
[09:19] <nexiu> I have IP but its looks like problem with dns
[09:19] <de-facto> so you can ping all ways?
[09:22] <nexiu> de-facto: yes, tried now
[09:22] <de-facto> otherwise i would have suggested you check your routes
[09:22] <de-facto> can you ping 8.8.8.8 from within the guest?
[09:23] <nexiu> yes
[09:23] <de-facto> and host google.com?
[09:24] <nexiu> no, I cant
[09:24] <de-facto> maybe you can set that 8.8.8.8 as DNS server then? not sure if you want that or rather a local one...
[09:25] <zeroes> how I can download a html documentation of a program on Windows machine? E.g. I would like to read git-doc locally using browser.
[09:25] <nexiu> I have local one installed within gueast and a 2nd copy on raspi
[09:26] <zeroes> I could retrieve git-doc easily on Linux, but how it can be done on Windows?
[09:27] <de-facto> nexiu, then check their log files and query them with "dig @<ip>" program
[09:36] <tomreyn> zeroes: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[09:52] <nexiu> de-facto: i found where devil is
[09:53] <nexiu> networkmenager puts incorrect dns into resolv.conf
[09:53] <nexiu> after every reboot / network restart
[09:53] <zeroes> tomreyn: thank you. I can download html-files from that page :D
[09:54] <de-facto> nexiu, yeah i am fighting with NM too, i try to get it to put the dns of my OVPN push in resolv.conf
[09:54] <de-facto> no success so far :/
[09:57] <nexiu> my only idea is a command to copy proper resolv.conf instead NM one after log in
[09:58] <de-facto> nexiu, i think you should not directly write to resolv.conf, rather try to convince nm to put correct dns in there
[09:59] <de-facto> otherwise you will have problems on reconnect
[10:02] <de-facto> maybe you can makel your DHCP to tell NM the DNS?
[10:03] <nexiu> its configured via dhcp in NM but in resolv.conf is invalid
[10:05] <de-facto> where is the DHCP from? Maybe you can configure it in VMWare? not sure i never used that
[10:07] <nexiu> its bridged network so dhcp is on router
[10:08] <de-facto> hmm ok and other clients get correct DNS via DHCP?
[10:08] <nexiu> yes
[10:08] <de-facto> bridged... does that mean shared ip address between host and guest?
[10:08] <nexiu> i blame dnsmasq
[10:08] <nexiu> ill dig it later
[10:09] <de-facto> maybe host connects, gets ip and dns but not the guest?
[10:09] <de-facto> not sure
[10:09] <de-facto> i mean there probably is just one lease per mac address or such?
[10:28] <mystic> qtox or utox for ubuntu?  how to install ?
[10:30] <tomreyn> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=qtox
[10:33] <OerHeks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1047330/how-to-compile-and-install-qtox-from-github-on-ubuntu-18-04/1047398
[10:33] <OerHeks> good luck with that
[10:59] <de-facto> mystic, toxcore like: mkdir /tmp/toxcore ; cd /tmp/toxcore ; dget dget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libt/libtoxcore/libtoxcore_0.2.9-1.dsc ; tar -xf *.tar.xz ; tar -xf *.tar.gz ; mv debian c-toxcore-*/ ; cd c-toxcore-*/ ; sed -i 's/debhelper (>= 12~)/debhelper/' debian/control ; sudo apt-get build-dep . ; dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
[11:14] <de-facto> mystic, then you install toxcore like sudo dpkg -i /tmp/toxcore/*.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install
[11:14] <de-facto> building qtox...
[11:14] <de-facto> mkdir -p /tmp/qtox/build ; cd /tmp/qtox ; dget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/q/qtox/qtox_1.16.3-2.dsc ; tar -xf *.tar.xz -C build ; tar -xf *.tar.gz -C build ; cd build ; sed -i 's/debhelper (>= 12~)/debhelper/' debian/control ; sudo apt-get build-dep . ; dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
[11:15] <de-facto> then you install qtox like sudo dpkg -i /tmp/qtox/*.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install
[11:15] <de-facto> done :)
[11:16] <de-facto> i recommend running each command on it own so you can see if something fails though
[11:16] <de-facto> just separate by the " ; "
[11:17] <aiena> Is there a way to allow nautilus to allow file overwrites through renames. Igets pretty tedious having to delete the original file to rename the new file to it
[11:17] <aiena> it
[11:17] <aiena> or do I need to install another file manager
[11:18] <de-facto> nautilus will ask you before it would overwrite
[11:18] <de-facto> if its many files you can tell it to do it for all of the collisions
[11:18] <aiena> nautilus does not ask it disables the rename button de-facto
[11:19] <aiena> i wish it asked is there some way to configure it to ask to overwrite?
[11:19] <de-facto> do you have permissions for that file?
[11:19] <aiena> yes
[11:19] <aiena> i am on ubuntu 19,04
[11:19] <de-facto> i dont understand what you want to do then
[11:20] <aiena> lets say I have 2 files "a.jpg" and "a-tj.jpg" in the same folder. I want to rename "a-tj.jpg" to "a.jpg" and throw away a.jpg
[11:20] <aiena> when I try to rename a-tj.jpg to "a.jpg" the rename button gets disabled and I can not overwrite
[11:20] <aiena> both files are owned and created by me
[11:20] <de-facto> then you have to delete a.jpg first of course
[11:21] <aiena> yes but is there a config potion to allow overites through renames
[11:21] <aiena> in kde an overwrite was just a prompt
[11:21] <aiena> it gets tedious for many file to delete the originals to rename the new ones
[11:22] <aiena> or does nautilus completely bar ytou form this and I need another file manager?
[11:22] <de-facto> well its not a rename then, its a delete and then rename
[11:22] <aiena> de-facto like the "mv" command in linux
[11:22] <de-facto> yes i know
[11:23] <aiena> there is no way in nautilus to do that?
[11:23] <santosh> What is the escape-time setting in tmux?
[11:23] <de-facto> not sure about that, i guess it disables for good reason if data loss is involved
[11:23] <de-facto> like a precaution do not do that silently
[11:24] <aiena> well its a good reason but if ther user wantys the choice to overwrite is it not available?
[11:25] <de-facto> honestly i dont know i would do such tasks with a script employing "find ... -exec sh -c '' \;...."
[11:25] <aiena> de-facto I liove how I can overload the menu to work on files with nautilus-actions
[11:26] <aiena> just this not allw renames to loose the original file is troublesome for me
[11:26] <aiena> i think i need to look for some other file manager
[11:26] <aiena> can you recommend a gtk based one
[11:27] <aiena> since nautilus does not give the user the choice to have mv like behaviour with a prompt
[11:29] <de-facto> well it makes sense that if you have a big directory that it makes you aware of collisions
[11:29] <aiena> de-facto I guess I'll try nemo and see. I need filemanager actions but overwrite as werll
[11:30] <aiena> de-facto awareness of collision should be "this file exists. do you want to ovewrite the file?" not blockj you from renaming to overwrite
[11:30] <de-facto> you can also look in dconf org/gnome/nautilus/preferences if you find some options
[11:31] <B|ack0p> hi
[11:31] <de-facto> if its not possible you might open a bug report or feature request to improve it maybe
[11:31] <de-facto> but first you have to be sure ...
[11:32] <B|ack0p> again i got an error report popup.. when i check /var/crash  i find a locked file _usr_bin_gnome-shell.121.crash
[11:32] <B|ack0p> but i cant view it. it is locked
[11:34] <B|ack0p> and a .lock file
[11:34] <B|ack0p> how can i get detail of error and fix it?
[11:36] <de-facto> maybe you have to become root to read it?
[11:36] <de-facto> idk...
[11:38] <B|ack0p> maybe
[11:38] <de-facto> it can contain sensible data, hence its blocked for normal users i guess
[11:38] <OerHeks> something with apport-unpack, gdb and backtrace
[11:38] <B|ack0p> ok i am in it now
[11:38] <B|ack0p> i will paste
[11:39] <B|ack0p> also i couldnt find out freezing cause yet..
[11:39] <B|ack0p> it happened 3 times
[11:40] <de-facto> well if it freezes the kernel it might be some kernel module like graphics or such
[11:40] <de-facto> you have to investigate further i guess
[11:41] <B|ack0p> it s large file..
[11:41] <B|ack0p> cant paste :S
[11:42] <de-facto> read it and find some info about the specific error
[11:42] <B|ack0p> encyripted
[11:42] <B|ack0p> when i paste it shows encrypted texts
[11:42] <OerHeks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/434431/how-can-i-read-a-crash-file-from-var-crash
[11:42] <de-facto> also if it happens again you might want to login via ssh (e.g. termux from android) and see dmesg and logs
[11:43] <de-facto> like Xorg.0.log and such
[11:43] <OerHeks> a lot of work to make it readable, is it worth it, on that t60 with heavy gnome?
[11:43] <B|ack0p> it is x61
[11:43] <B|ack0p> not t60
[11:44] <B|ack0p> ProblemType: Crash
[11:44] <B|ack0p> Architecture: amd64
[11:44] <B|ack0p> CurrentDesktop: GNOME-Greeter:GNOME
[11:45] <B|ack0p> wait i am pasting..
[11:45] <B|ack0p> pastebin
[11:45] <B|ack0p> if i can
[11:51] <Iarla> Is there a quick launcher that works on the Unity desktop? Something with a keyboard shortcut to show and it quickly figures out the name of your application when you type a few letters?
[11:53] <ioria> Iarla, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/08/best-app-launcher-for-ubuntu-linux
[11:53] <B|ack0p> freezed again..
[11:53] <B|ack0p> 4th time now
[11:54] <B|ack0p> i had to press power button to shut down
[11:54] <Iarla> ioria: , brilliant, thanks :)
[11:54] <ioria> ok
[11:54] <lotuspsychje>  !info classicmenu-indicator | Iarla
[11:56] <B|ack0p> crash happened at 14:49:15 but log doesnt show that time : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JPRpGHGCQV/
[11:57] <B|ack0p> sorry not crash it was freeze
[11:57] <B|ack0p> i waited 2-3 minutes if something crashes but didnt crash so i pressed power button to shut down
[11:57] <OerHeks> do a memtest86 run to see if it is a memory issue
[11:57] <OerHeks> for say 24 hrs
[11:57] <B|ack0p> what 24 hrs?
[11:58] <OerHeks> or 48 hrs?
[11:58] <B|ack0p> ok i will do memtest
[12:00] <B|ack0p> OerHeks: there are some fails in syslog i pasted
[12:00] <B|ack0p> before freeze happens
[12:00] <B|ack0p> about gnome shell
[12:00] <B|ack0p> and daisy.ubuntu.com
[12:00] <B|ack0p> what are they?
[12:01] <B|ack0p> freeze happened at 14:49:15
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:02] <OerHeks> daisy is part of the bug report app
[12:02] <B|ack0p> Aug 27 14:48:19 uthink-x61 whoopsie[1674]: [14:48:19] Cannot reach: https://daisy.ubuntu.com
[12:02] <B|ack0p> \00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00\00
[12:03] <fgiulianiint> hi, I installed ubuntu without desktop, I installed xorg and I would like to start a graphical application before I login. If I login, I type startx and then the name of the application it works. How can I do it without logging in first?
[12:03] <B|ack0p> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6vv8N485t/
[12:05] <OerHeks> fgiulianiint, what application do you want to start without user login?
[12:06] <B|ack0p> ok bbl after memtest86..
[12:06] <B|ack0p> see ya
[12:10] <fgiulianiint> OerHeks, it's a custom application developed by me. Actually I just would like it starts before the end of plymouth animation without see any boot (or log) message
[12:12] <OerHeks> plymouth animation without desktop, interesting
[12:12] <OerHeks> no, you need to login as the user.
[12:13] <fgiulianiint> OerHeks, sorry without any desktop environment, i also install xorg
[12:13] <B|ack0p> OerHeks: back on T60 :p
[12:13] <B|ack0p> x61 is on memtest now
[12:13] <fgiulianiint> OerHeks: i also tried to follow also this guide but without success https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42888
[12:14] <B|ack0p> it shows RAM 304mhz but it should be 800
[12:14] <B|ack0p> ddr2-609
[12:14] <B|ack0p> also it doesnt show ram brand and other specs
[12:14] <OerHeks> fgiulianiint, i stand by login as the user first.
[12:16] <aiena> hmm is there really no gtk filemanager which allows an overwrite with a rename hmm
[12:16] <fgiulianiint> OerHeks, ok i tried to autologin and then make start the application putting startx in the .bash_profile but i see the login messages and the xorg starting messages that i would like to remove
[12:17] <aiena> i guess I'll make it in the script itself then
[12:27] <Iarla> lotuspsychje: thank you, not quite what I'm looking for. I'm a fast typist and prefer something like the dask in Unity but without the lag.
[12:28] <Iarla> I've just installed Kupfer on 16.04 but it doesn't seem to recognise the keyboard shortcuts. I'll try others on that list next.
[12:31] <Iarla> Oh, kupfer works after logout/in. Perfect!
[12:31] <Rojola> hi
[12:31] <Rojola> How can I check what kind of encryption a gpg file uses?
[12:32] <Rojola> it's AES, but I am not sure if it's AES 256
[12:38] <therealtbe> @Rojola gpg --list-packets --verbose <filename>          should reveal    gpg: AES256 encrypted data
[12:39] <Rojola> thank you so much therealtbe
[12:42] <Rojola1> re
[12:42] <Rojola1> sorry I got disconnected
 thank you so much therealtbe
 therealtbe, unfortunately, I can not see if it's 128 or 256
[12:50] <therealtbe> @Rojola1 bro does it say 256
[12:51] <Rojola1> no
[12:51] <Rojola1> I even added  | grep "256"
[12:51] <Rojola1> also  | grep "128"
[12:53] <therealtbe> if it doesnt say 256 then its the old default which was 128
[12:53] <Rojola1> thank you therealtbe
[12:53] <therealtbe> just go encrypt something and specify the cipher to test it
[12:54] <Rojola1> how would that show me the algorythm?  When I decrypt it, it only says AES
[12:54] <therealtbe> go encrypt a test file specifically with 256 and then learn what it looks like when you decrypt with verbose and when you --list-packets
[12:55] <Rojola1> ok
[12:55] <Rojola1> therealtbe, what should I use?   --cipher-algo AES256  or   --algo AES256  ?
[12:55] <Rojola1> both seem to co-exist
[12:55] <therealtbe> try both
[13:35] <Iarla> Is there an easy way to get gestures supported on Ubuntu trackpad? I've tried this tutorial but I'm not getting results. https://www.maketecheasier.com/add-multitouch-gestures-ubuntu/
[13:37] <Iarla> Touch egg doesn't register any gestures even though I can do two-finger scrolling already.
[13:41] <B|ack0p> memtest86+ passed
[13:41] <B|ack0p> how can i remove gnome extensions?
[13:42] <leftyfb> B|ack0p: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2019/04/how-to-uninstall-gnome-shell-extensions.html    # first result on google for "remove gnome extensions"
[13:42] <B|ack0p> i installed them by this command: sudo apt install gnome-shell-extensions
[13:43] <leftyfb> B|ack0p: if you want to remove the package you installed, then it should be pretty simple to work out how to remove it
[13:43] <B|ack0p> leftyfb: i already read that article. i disabled extensions but i wanna remove them
[13:43] <B|ack0p> ok
[13:44] <B|ack0p> sudo apt purge gnome-shell-extensions probably
[13:44] <leftyfb> B|ack0p: disabling them will essentially remove them. Do you really care about the kb of space they take up being cached?
[13:44] <B|ack0p> i dont but
[13:44] <B|ack0p> in syslog gnomeshell failed about weather extension
[13:45] <leftyfb> B|ack0p: so disable the extention
[13:45] <leftyfb> extension*
[13:45] <leftyfb> B|ack0p: removing the package is really overkill
[13:46] <B|ack0p> ok
[13:46] <B|ack0p> what are these fails about? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rG2mNGJF6X/
[13:47] <B|ack0p> sorry not fail they are warning
[13:47] <B|ack0p> pipe error
[13:47] <B|ack0p> what are they about?
[13:47] <B|ack0p> i had 4 freezes in 2 days i am just trying to find out what could be the problem
[13:55] <drasch> B|ack0p: those are most likely noise, but worst case those are more symtomps rather than cause of whatever's causing a system freezeing
[13:55] <tomreyn> B|ack0p: if you're referring to a full system hang, which is only recoverable with power cycling (i.e. not just a freezing process where you can still reboot more safely using !sysrq or even ctrl-alt-del from a !tty): monitor its sensors, stress test the hardware, do 2 full memtest86+ passes
[13:56] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: i am got 4 freeze that didnt allow me to do anything on screen
[13:56] <B|ack0p> everything locked
[13:56] <B|ack0p> i had to press power button to shut down
[13:56] <tomreyn> so you actually tried !sysrq ?
[13:57] <B|ack0p> when i check syslog or crash there s nothing about the freeze
[13:57] <B|ack0p> nothing shows at exact freeze time
[13:57] <tomreyn> !sysrq
[13:57] <B|ack0p> let me do that
[13:57] <B|ack0p> hmm never done that
[13:57] <B|ack0p> is it a print screen?
[13:57] <B|ack0p> ok
[13:57] <B|ack0p> got it
[13:57] <B|ack0p> if it happens again i will do that
[13:58] <B|ack0p> i did 1 time memtest86 passed
[13:58] <tomreyn> which hardware is this? journalctl -b | grep DMI:
[13:59] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: $ journalctl -b | grep DMI
[13:59] <B|ack0p> Aug 27 16:38:11 uthink-x61 kernel: DMI: LENOVO 7674CY4/7674CY4, BIOS 7NETC2WW (2.22 ) 03/22/2011
[13:59] <B|ack0p> Aug 27 16:38:11 uthink-x61 kernel: ACPI: Added _OSI(Linux-Lenovo-NV-HDMI-Audio)
[14:00] <B|ack0p> thinkpad x61
[14:02] <tomreyn> so an older model, not uefi booting, i guess. try the above then. you can also try to just switch to a !tty ...
[14:02] <tomreyn> !tty
[14:02] <tomreyn> ... then press ctrl-alt-del
[14:02] <B|ack0p> tomreyn: when i get freeze or now?
[14:02] <tomreyn> you may not get to see it if the graphics hung up.
[14:02] <tomreyn> when you get the freeze
[14:02] <B|ack0p> everything freezes when it happens
[14:02] <tomreyn> how do you tell?
[14:03] <B|ack0p> time freezes \ screen buttons
[14:03] <B|ack0p> etc
[14:03] <tomreyn> so just based on graphical output. you'd see the same if just the video driver locked up but the kernel stilloperates fine.
[14:04] <B|ack0p> it is intel gpu
[14:04] <tomreyn> to tell those apart, blindly switching to a tty and pressing ctrl-alt-del, or using the sysrq method, may help.
[14:05] <tomreyn> if those succeed, it means the kernel was still working. it can also means you then have more logs available at   journalctl -b -1 -e
[14:05] <B|ack0p> ok when it happens which one should i do? sysreq or tty ?
[14:06] <tomreyn> tty + ctrl-alt-delete first, watch the storage LED, see if it flashes differently, if it does the system is probably trying to shut down properly at this point.
[14:07] <tomreyn> if it does not, use magic sysrq. if this does not succeed either, you have a full hardware / kernel hang, and should continue stress testing.
[14:08] <B|ack0p> ctrl+alt+f3-f6  then ctrl+alt+del = tty
[14:09] <B|ack0p> sysrq = alt+prtscr
[14:09] <tomreyn> you can try switching to a tty now and back to your graphical desktop, so you'll know which tty is really a text console.
[14:10] <tomreyn> on a text console, you can press sysrq + h to see if it generally works
[14:10] <b1ack0p> tomreyn: i am on f3
[14:10] <tomreyn> it should then write a short help text to dmesg | tail
[14:13] <B|ack0p> i couldt get back to graphical interface
[14:13] <B|ack0p> ctrl+alt+del restarted
[14:14] <B|ack0p> now i got a error report popup..
[14:14] <B|ack0p> no detail given
[14:16] <systest> Given all the breaking changes with systemd, how does one configure /etc/resolv.conf when using DHCP?
[14:17] <systest> I can't find any good documentation for this
[14:17] <mgedmin> if you rm the /etc/resolv.conf symlink and create a text file in its place, systemd will not touch it
[14:18] <mgedmin> (this is documented somewhere but I can't be bothered to look up where exactly)
[14:18] <systest> mgedmin,  but that assumes you're doing static networking
[14:19] <systest> i.e. it's generally up to the network config to add the DNS servers to that file
[14:19] <systest> i.e. the DNS servers supplied by DHCP
[14:20] <mgedmin> what exactly do you want to configure?  you can always put nameserver 127.0.0.53 in your resolv.conf and have it use systemd-resolved, which will forward to the DNS servers supplied by DHCP
[14:20] <systest> mgedmin, to be blunt, systemd-resolved isn't ready for prime time
[14:20] <mgedmin> for more advanced dynamic configuration you can use resolvconf, which predates systemd-resolved
[14:20] <systest> you can't do split DNS with it, so I have to replace it
[14:21] <mgedmin> I used to do split DNS a few years back; don't remember how exactly but I'm sure resolvconf and a local dnsmasq were involved
[14:22] <mgedmin> I have notes from back then
[14:23] <systest> mgedmin, y, and that's what I'm doing now.  except I'm using PowerDNS recursor instead of dnsmasq but same idea
[14:23] <mgedmin> and your question is how to tell your PowerDNS to forward to the servers provided by your local DHCP server?
[14:23] <systest> I'll check out the resolveconf docs
[14:23] <mgedmin> iirc the way it worked with resolvconf and dnsmasq was that resolvconf gets the DHCP info and writes them into a temp file somewhere in /run
[14:24] <mgedmin> and dnsmasq is configured to read forwarded servers from that file, so things work out
[14:24] <xibalba> check out powerdns-recursor if you're just using this for a small/lab kind of environment.
[14:24] <mgedmin> (it's not magic, just shell scripts in /etc/network/ifup.d/*, but they're already written for me which is why I liked using resolvconf)
[14:24] <systest> xibalba, see up a few lines ;-)
[14:25] <mgedmin> mind you, that was in 2010, things might have changed or become broken since then...
[14:25] <xibalba> ah whoops...great minds and such =P
[14:26] <systest> mgedmin, y, that's the problem, systemd has taken over networking too and appears to only play well with systemd-reslover
[14:27] <yogg> Hi
[14:27] <systest> at least in 18.04
[14:28] <yogg> Has someone a how to mmcli with pppd for me? I managed to get a working connection with mmcli but have no idea how to configure ppp now
[14:29] <mgedmin> systest: and we're back to the beginning where I told you how to have a static resolv.conf that points to your favourite local resolver
[14:30] <systest> mgedmin, that's the issue,  i.e. `static`.  The DNS servers that "local resolver" are supposed to use are supplied by DHCP, i.e. `dynamically`
[14:31] <systest> I _could_ kludge something together with `netplan ip leases eth0 | grep '^DNS='`
[14:31] <systest> and just hope that amazon doesn't deside to change the DNS servers over the lifetime of the system
[14:33] <systest>  s/deside/decide.  However, I was hoping there was a way to get the systemd-networkd service to manage that as part of the DHCP process
[14:33] <systest> thanks for the replies, much appreicated
[14:34] <mgedmin> systest: no, no, no, nobody suggests hardcoding DHCP replies in /etc/resolv.conf, by "local" I meant a forwarder running on 127.0.0.1
[14:38] <systest> mgedmin, I think we've miscomunicated here.  my fault for not being clear.  I am running a local resolver on 127.0.0.1 and I do point to it.  (I've kept saying manage reslove conf but whatI really need is a way to get the DNS servers replied by DHCP into the config for that local recursor)
[14:38] <mgedmin> right
[14:38] <systest> and I think I have and OK fix
[14:38] <mgedmin> so I believe /etc/network/if-up.d/ still works in 18.04
[14:38] <mgedmin> and you can drop shell scripts there that will run every time a network connection comes up
[14:38] <mgedmin> and these scripts will see DHCP-provided DNS servers in environment variables
[14:39] <mgedmin> and you can then feed them to your local forwarder any way you see fit
[14:39] <systest> cool, that would do it.  thanks.  I'll check the docs
[14:46] <mgedmin> 'man interfaces' describes the script directories and the environment variables
[14:46] <mgedmin> 'man run-parts' describes the naming conventions (which scripts will execute and which will be ignored) and ordering
[14:54] <systest> 'ifupdown has been replaced by netplan(5) on this system'  LOL, at least I'm getting closer.  thanks again
[14:59] <BluesKaj> systest, one can still use ifupdown and the /etc/network/interfaces file settings with dhcp if you wish, with network manager disabled
[15:02] <systest> BluesKaj, it's not clear to me network manager runs any longer under 18.04
[15:03] <systest> and I'm trying to modify as little as possible
[15:04] <BluesKaj> sys
[15:04] <BluesKaj> systest,  nm is installed by default
[15:07] <systest> most like my error but I'm not seeing it on the DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS" system built from the Ubuntu supplied AMI
[15:07] <tds> systest: going back a bit, what issues did you have with resolved? it should handle split DNS nicely, though you may want to look at using the search domain ~. if you want to force queries over a a specific interface's resolvers
[15:09] <systest> tds,  I found no way to configure systemd-resloved to send queries for specific TLD to an alternete DNS server/port.  If you know how do do that I would be VERY happy to hear about it
[15:10] <systest> specficially, I need to send queries for the 'consul.' TLD to 127.0.0.1:8600
[15:10] <abijoy> what does package-name_all.deb mean?
[15:12] <tds> resolved is designed to handle split DNS scenarios on multi-homed hosts, so I'm not sure you could easily do that, particularly with a non-53 port, hmm
[15:12] <tds> unless you have an additional interface you can tie this consul domain and resolver to
[15:13] <yogg> abijoy "package-name" is the name of the package "all" means not cpu specific. "deb" is the file format
[15:13] <systest> honestly, too many hoops.  This is a _common_ use case (well, it's not uncommon)  dnsmask, powerdns-recursor and all handle it with a single line config
[15:13] <mgedmin> hmmmm https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/442598/how-to-configure-systemd-resolved-and-systemd-networkd-to-use-local-dns-server-f
[15:14] <abijoy> @yogg like it can be installed on both 32 and 64 bit OS?
[15:15] <mgedmin> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/NetworkManager/DNS also implies that systemd-resolved supports split DNS
[15:15] <Fuseteam> more like it can be installed on arm x86 and what not
[15:15] <yogg> abijoy yes such packages work on all platforms
[15:16] <abijoy> @yogg thanks
[15:20] <systest> mgedmin, thanks but unless I've missed something (quite possible) networks manager had been replaced by systemd-networkd in 18.04
[15:21] <mgedmin> "replaced" is a word; ubuntu desktop uses network-manager; ubuntu-server probably uses systemd-networkd
[15:21] <systest> FWIW, I _can_ have the replacement resolver on 127.0.0.1 send querries to systemd-resolved on 127.0.0.53
[15:21] <mgedmin> (actually netplan with the systemd-networkd backend)
[15:21] <mgedmin> but point is, network-manager, when it integrates with systemd-resolved, can configure split DNS, which means systemd-resolved must support it!
[15:22] <mgedmin> (at least sufficiently recent versions of it; I can't vouch about the one in 18.04 specifically as I've never tried this myself)
[15:23] <systest> I think it's doing it by using multiple interfaces.  e.g. "request for exampleA.com go out over the VPN interface, when it's up"  That's a different use/config case
[15:23] <systest> I only have one interface,  eth0
[15:23] <systest> and, fair point, this is Server, not desktop
[15:24] <mgedmin> oh snap, it might require a whole entire network interface indeed
[15:25] <tds> yes, that's how resolved handles it - you could emulate it on a server with just a dummy interface for consul though
[15:26] <systest> that DOES work with systemd-networkd/resolved.  e.g. if one brings up a VPN interface you can route querries for a set of domans to the DNS servers associated with that VPN inerface
[15:27] <systest> tds, i.e. spin up a phantom interface with the DNS server for that interface configured to be 127.0.0.1:8600?   kludgy but may work
[15:28] <systest> but pdns-recursor "just works".  think it's cleaner to see if I can et systemd-networkd to fire a script when it configures the interface via DHCP
[15:29]  * systest isn't holding his breath on systemd-networkd having support for that ;-)
[15:34] <systest> was just told systemd-networkd does'nt support that functionality but to check out https://gitlab.com/craftyguy/networkd-dispatcher
[15:36] <systest> looks like a default pkg for 18.04 LTS, which is nice
[15:37] <lalitmee> Hey Guys, how to configure notifications popup in ubuntu? Mine is changed which I installed i3 and then I uninstalled i3 but the notification popup is still same.
[15:45] <efazati> I build a kernel for a ARM machine on Ubuntu, then I tried to copy `Image` file to another machine /boot/Image, but it is not working. am I doing correct thing?
[16:14] <tomreyn> efazati: "does not work" does not work for getting you support.
[16:14] <tomreyn> (but this also sounds like it's not an ubuntu support topic)
[16:26] <a90c> i'm trying to install nginx rmtp module. i got this: make: *** No rule to make target 'build', needed by 'default'. Stop.
[16:26] <a90c> Any ideas?
[16:26] <a90c> *rtmp*
[16:29] <marz_d`ghostman> I've migrated an Ubuntu machine which uses ens160. Upon migration the machine now uses ens18. How do I set it up to still use ens160?
[16:29] <marz_d`ghostman> In CentOS, I'd simply delete the udev rules, but that doesn't exist in Ubuntu
[16:35] <ioria> marz_d`ghostman, you can try this : https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/504827/predictable-network-interface-device-names-change-with-new-ssd    (personally never tried)
[16:35] <Stadtpirat> Hi, if I set 'ufw default allow routed', how can I make it persistent? Right now this rule is lost on reboot
[16:36] <systest> marz_d`ghostman,  Ah the joys "predictable names"  https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[16:38] <marz_d`ghostman> ioria: systest thanks
[16:38] <marz_d`ghostman> quit
[16:59] <Bombo> hi
[17:01] <Bombo> i'm trying to install a different mouse cursor (lxde, bionic) this one https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1295073/ so i installed that, it is in the list selectable, but no preview, and the cursor doesn't change... (lxappearance)
[17:13] <wwilliam> hello in Ubuntu 16.0.4.4 LTS  how do i change my PS1 for all users currently is showing user@ip-10-10-1-14:/etc/skel$
[17:14] <wwilliam> I want it to be green for regular user and $ and red with # for root
[17:14] <wwilliam> thank you.
[17:18] <Bombo> wwilliam: check /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile
[17:19] <wwilliam> i did cant figure it out
[17:21] <wwilliam> this is in .bash.bashrc   PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
[17:22] <wwilliam> i dont see ip there...
[17:23] <wwilliam> In profile i dont see much.
[17:23] <Bombo> \h is ip
[17:23] <wwilliam> cool Thanks
[17:23] <Bombo> (hostname)
[17:23] <Bombo> \u is user
[17:26] <wwilliam> what is w?
[17:26] <wwilliam> oh working dir i guess
[17:26] <Bombo> yeah
[17:27] <Bombo> this makes it light green ;) export PS1='\033[1;32m\u@\h:\w\$ \033[0;0m'
[17:27] <wwilliam> and red for root?
[17:28] <Bombo> \033[1;32m light green \033[0;32m dark green \033[1;32m
[17:28] <Bombo> red is 31 instead of 32
[17:28] <Bombo> (ansi codes)
[17:28] <wwilliam> ok thanks
[17:36] <tomreyn> wwilliam: if you're currently running Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS it means your system is missing critical security updates, and you should install those and reboot the system.
[17:37] <wwilliam> Ok
[17:38] <wwilliam> where do i put those ps1s so it takes system wide for present and new users?
[17:40] <Bombo> wwilliam: those two files are global
[17:40] <wwilliam> so in both
[17:41] <wwilliam>  ...../etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile?
[17:41] <Bombo> yes somewhere there ;)
[17:41] <wwilliam> tomreyn: apt-get dist-upgrade and reboot?
[17:42] <Bombo> wwilliam: apt update && apt upgrade
[17:42] <wwilliam> ok
[17:42] <wwilliam> Thank you all
[17:55] <clownfishhuman> what software should I use to record my screen?
[17:56] <NegativeFlare> clownfishhuman: there used to be one called Simple Screen recorder
[17:56] <NegativeFlare> !simplescreenrecorder
[17:56] <NegativeFlare> !screencast | clownfishhuman
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> clownfishhuman: or kazam
[17:57] <NegativeFlare> as ubottu said ;)
[17:58] <adroit_machine> I have a dual boot machine. After I tether bluetooth on ubuntu, I have to tether again in windows by selecting "forget device". My question is if I change the mac address of the bluetooth adapter in ubuntu would it also change the mac address in windows? Is there an alternate way that I don't have to tether the bluetooth on windows/ubuntu again and again?
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> oh my bad NegativeFlare
[17:58] <NegativeFlare> lotuspsychje: no worries :P
[17:58] <tomreyn> wwilliam: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade && sudo systemctl reboot
[17:58] <clownfishhuman> i use simplescreenrecorder now but ffmpeg sounds like what im looking for. my keyboard settings have the option to "record a short screencast" but i have no control over the length. all i need is something like that with start-stop functionality so ffmpeg would probably do it
[17:59] <clownfishhuman> thanks ubottu :)
[17:59] <NegativeFlare> heh
[18:01] <Slyver> I love how I have to guess where minimize, maximize , and close are on XFCE!
[18:02] <NegativeFlare> Slyver: you can change how the buttons look and everything
[18:02] <Slyver> I am connecting via X2Go using a remote X session
[18:05] <tomreyn> Slyver: if you have an ubuntu support question, this channel is the right place. if you have any on Xubuntu, #xubuntu may be a better place. If you would instead prefer to discuss Ubuntu, type   !discuss
[18:05] <Slyver> tomreyn, ty :)
[18:06] <wwilliam> ok installed updates rebooting.....
[18:07] <wwilliam> cat /etc/issue
[18:07] <wwilliam> Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS \n \l
[18:25] <Jonii> Hello. I'm trying to figure out if I can use software to temporarily disable my second monitor
[18:26] <Jonii> It seems like the only way to do this is to just grab the cable and take it off. I'm not sure if that's safe without turning computer off, and I'd want to avoid that if possible
[18:40] <kokokon> my pc is HP some drivers do not work
[18:40] <kokokon> display gets dull
[18:40] <kokokon> its an older HP model
[19:03] <tomreyn> !details | kokokon
[19:03] <tomreyn> ubuntu version: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
[19:04] <tomreyn> system board: journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[19:04] <tomreyn> graphics chipset: lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:08] <tomreyn> Jonii: just unplugging the cable is usually safe (i've never heard differently, at least). you could probably use xset https://askubuntu.com/questions/62858/turn-off-monitor-using-command-line  or xrandr or just the respoective GUIs to power off the monitor.
[19:12] <superboot> Hi all. I have Openoffice installed, and I want to switch to libreoffice. I did a apt-get install libreoffice, and the package libreoffice-common conflicts with opeoffice-debian-menues, and fails with "please run apt-get -f install". This fails with the same error (a loop). It looks like apt won't do anything now until I remove the conflic, but I don't know how. How can I fix this?
[19:13] <sarnold> superboot: try apt-get install libreoffice-common opeoffice-debian-menues-
[19:13] <sarnold> (note the minus at the end of opeoffice-debian-menues -- this asks apt to uninstall it_
[20:18] <Sansay> Hey, could someone help me debug why my drive wont mount? in dmesg it tells me to run fsck on it so i do, and it returns no issues, when i try to mount nothing seems to happen, i dont see any errors
[20:26] <Sansay> when i run sudo mount -av it says the path to the drive is successfully mounted. but when i run df -h, i dont see it reflected
[20:26] <OerHeks> hi Sansay what filesystem is on that disk?
[20:27] <Sansay> ubuntu 18.04
[20:28] <OerHeks> so, you want to mount an ext4 partition?
[20:28] <Sansay> ya
[20:28] <OerHeks> do you see content with sudo ls -l ?
[20:29] <Sansay> in the mount directory?
[20:29] <Sansay> in the mount directory no
[20:29] <Sansay> nothing in there
[20:30] <Sansay> UUID="7aca25de-3848-41d4-b290-d8b891240d41" /mnt/disks/localssd ext4 discard,defaults,nofail 0 2
[20:30] <Sansay> thats in my fstab, that uuid represents my drive i got that using blkid
[20:37] <tomreyn> Sansay: what does this report?   sudo file -Ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/7aca25de-3848-41d4-b290-d8b891240d41
[20:38] <youtah> FYI Followup: I have had twice now, where my audio (once from an upgrade from 18.04.02 to 18.04.03, and fresh install of 18.04.03) went completely missing.
[20:39] <youtah> I found the (possible) issue
[20:39] <Sansay> > /dev/disk/by-uuid/7aca25de-3848-41d4-b290-d8b891240d41: Linux rev 1.0 ext4 filesystem data, UUID=7aca25de-3848-41d4-b290-d8b891240d41 (extents) (64bit) (large files) (huge files)
[20:39] <youtah> My sound card (output device) was showing up as some random chrome-remote-desktop device in ~/.config/chrome-remote-desktop/....
[20:40] <youtah> nuking this directory and restarting my machine restored the other Output devices
[20:40] <youtah> </random fyi>
[20:41] <tomreyn> Sansay: and if you manually mount this to a mount point you created previously?    mkdir /mnt/7aca25de-3848-41d4-b290-d8b891240d41 && mount -v /dev/disk/by-uuid/7aca25de-3848-41d4-b290-d8b891240d41 /mnt/7aca25de-3848-41d4-b290-d8b891240d41
[20:43] <Sansay> i modified that a bit but let me try your copy
[20:43] <Sansay> but it says its mounted but i dont see anyhting
[20:44] <Sansay> mount: /dev/sdb mounted on /mnt/7aca25de-3848-41d4-b290-d8b891240d41.
[20:44] <Sansay> interesting though
[20:44] <Sansay> yours mounted
[20:44] <Sansay> when i tried to mount to my old directory it failed even though it said the same thing
[20:47] <Sansay> doesnt make any sense unless would a symbolic link referenciing the mount point cause issues?
[20:48] <tomreyn> if you tried to mount to tha instead, yes, i guess so.
[20:52] <Comnenus> # netplan ip leases ensXXX is pointing to the proper DNS servers, but I can't get anything to resolve.  Has anyone run into this?
[20:53] <Sansay> after removing the symbolic links it still does not mount to that other directory
[20:55] <Sansay> deleting the directory and remaking it seemed to fix it
[20:55] <Sansay> listing the folder though no files showed up but must have been something in there
[21:20] <dirkmkdir> has anyone ever heard of small business open source initiatives?  There doesn't seem to be a way that I can pay a firm to replace all my WIndoze with Unix.
[21:21] <dirkmkdir> That was a bad sentence, but I'm gonna stand by it.
[21:21] <saor> MSP/ITSP's fucking hate open source
[21:22] <dirkmkdir> I'm pretty sure they hate Open Source cause there MSP model is some pretty much a scheme to stay profitable with Office 365.
[21:22] <genii> !language
[21:22] <saor> Oh fuck my bad
[21:22]  * genii sighs
[21:25] <genii> saor: Please try to keep use of profanity under control.
[21:25] <saor> lol
[21:25] <saor> dirkmkdir: The entire model is reselling existing services
[21:26] <dirkmkdir> Services that are included in open source for free.
[21:26] <dirkmkdir> I think there should be a Open MSP or at the very least something non-ms vertical
[21:27] <dirkmkdir> Like Chromium
[21:27] <saor> Well look at Datto they just piggy back open source and resell at a premium
[21:27] <genii> dirkmkdir: There's various *nix equivalents for such things as Office and so on, but people within the business still need to know how to install/troubleshoot/maintain these
[21:27] <dirkmkdir> True but if the MSP cost of 1/4 of the Windows price. I thnk it would work.
[21:28] <dirkmkdir> there are so many businesses out there that don't know 1/2 of their data is already on Linux.
[21:28] <saor> Pretty neiche market, also staffing support techs who know linux would be a nightmare
[21:28] <dirkmkdir> And don't care
[21:28] <dirkmkdir> I own a Windows MSP now.
[21:28] <dirkmkdir> they call care.
[21:28] <saor> I work for one :)
[21:29] <dirkmkdir> The monthly cost is where it all boils down.
[21:29] <genii> dirkmkdir: This is probably beyond the scope of this channel ( which is more narrowly for Ubuntu-specific support issues). A more general channel for it would likely be the main ##linux one
[21:30] <dirkmkdir> Why would you use Datto and not Wasabi?
[21:30] <dirkmkdir> Sounds good, i talked to ubuntu sales and they said here was the place to be.
[21:30] <dirkmkdir> Have a wonderful day.
[21:32] <genii> dirkmkdir: Most of Canonical's support plans are pricing can be found here https://ubuntu.com/pricing
[21:32] <genii> are/and
[21:33] <dirkmkdir> Yeeeeah, I thought we werent talking about that anymore
[21:33] <dirkmkdir> Let's take this offline.
[21:33] <genii> heh
[22:05] <Bray90820> How would I run sudo inside of a bash script without a password
[22:05] <Bray90820> I believe it is something with visudo
[22:12] <sarnold> Bray90820: what are you trying to do?
[22:40] <JFox762> hi
[22:40] <JFox762> i need assistance setting up a network share in Windows VM to Linux host....
[22:46] <JFox762> it keeps saying "the file or folder smb://user.192.168.228.128/%5C%5CDESKTOP-7MKU2PH%5CPublic does not exist.
[23:07] <NegativeFlare> JFox762: it looks like you might have the URL wrong
[23:07] <NegativeFlare> or you don't have the guest essentials installed properly (if you're using VBOX that is)
[23:14] <JFox762> NegativeFlare... I'm just using IP address 192.168.228.128
[23:14] <JFox762> which is the IP address of the Virtual network the VM sits on
[23:15] <NegativeFlare> JFox762: Right, but does linux see that host? For example, can you ping that IP? Also, 'smb://user.192.168.228.128/%5C%5CDESKTOP-7MKU2PH%5CPublic' looks malformed. It might need to look more like this: 'smb://user@192.168.228.128/%5C%5CDESKTOP-7MKU2PH%5CPublic'
[23:15] <NegativeFlare> or something of the such.
[23:15] <JFox762> NegativeFlare: I'm using VMWare not VirtualBox
[23:15] <JFox762> yes I can ping 192.168.228.128
[23:15] <JFox762> from linux
[23:16] <NegativeFlare> hmm, I haven't used vmware in ages.
[23:16] <NegativeFlare> Not for file transfers anyways lol.
[23:17] <sarnold> can you use smbclient to talk to that host? what shares are exported from it?
[23:18] <JFox762> NegativeFlare: I didn't enter smb://user.192.168.228.128 etc etc
[23:18] <JFox762> I merely filled out the fields as follows
[23:18] <JFox762> Name: (Random word)
[23:18] <JFox762> Server: 192.168.228.128
[23:18] <JFox762> Folder /Public
[23:18] <JFox762> That brings up a prompt for username and password
[23:20] <JFox762> uhh nevermind
[23:20] <JFox762> i figured it out
[23:20] <sarnold> what was it?
[23:20] <JFox762> I have no idea?
[23:20] <JFox762> Password was wrong maybe??
[23:20] <JFox762> capslock?
[23:20] <JFox762> Odd though
[23:21] <JFox762> why would it give me "Folder not found" rather than a Authentication error?
[23:21] <OerHeks> oh, vmware, ...
[23:22] <Betal> would be better against bruteforce attack don't show the real result
[23:31] <JFox762> odd
[23:31] <JFox762> so i was able to browse the files
[23:31] <JFox762> wait
[23:31] <JFox762> let me check something
[23:33] <JFox762> so now it is saying "Access denied to smb@://user/192.168.228.128/Public"
[23:39] <Night_Elf> Hello all. Has anyone here experienced trouble using kvirc when connecting to irc servers via ssl connections? It would connect, but then disconnects with a message "Too large". I get the same when using it under Linux Mint. But when using Debian (like now), it works with no problems.
[23:39] <sarnold> Night_Elf: is that the entire error?
[23:39] <abclove> i want to use lubuntu, so ‘Download lubuntu(Intel x86) is 32bit or 64 bit?
[23:40] <Night_Elf> I need to check. But to what I remember, yes. Right now I don't have access to any Ubuntu or Mint machine. The message is: "SSL: Too large". Indeed, very cryptic. To my understanding it is something that has to do with the ssl libraries.
[23:41] <sarnold> abclove: it depends on the type of computer you've got; if you're already got a linux system, check /proc/cpuinfo to get the name of the cpu, then we can look up what that cpu can do
[23:42] <Night_Elf> It is also a test I performed. I was using an Ubuntu machine, where I installed a chrooted Debian, and then went on running Kvirc of that chrooted debian in Ubuntu. And it worked.
[23:44] <sarnold> Night_Elf: hmm, I can't spot any errors in the source that look like "too large" https://sources.debian.org/src/kvirc/4:5.0.0+dfsg-1/src/kvilib/net/KviSSL.cpp/ --
[23:44] <sarnold> Night_Elf: but there's a handful of errors from openssl that might match, https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=package%3Aopenssl+too+large -- do any of those look familiar?
[23:47] <Night_Elf> sarnold: It is that "Data too large" message. The section of the file:  openssl_1.1.1c-1/crypto/rsa/rsa_err.c
[23:48] <Night_Elf> But the odd thing is, that I checked the ssl version of the packages of both Ubuntu and Debian. It was the same in both.
[23:48] <sarnold> openssl has enough patches that that might not be a good indicator
[23:53] <matzy_> has anyone had trouble installing ubuntu on recent hp laptops?  i tried to install on a hp spectre x360 and everything went fine, but it always boots into windows boot manager, as if it's not recognizing grub at all.  i've never encountered such an issue before.  has any had a similar problem or knows how to solve this?
[23:53] <Night_Elf> sarnold: I see
[23:53] <sarnold> matzy_: the usual cause is windows not actually shutting down, but suspending
[23:54] <sarnold> matzy_: try a reboot instead of shutdown, and see if that helps
[23:55] <matzy_> sarnold ok so start the laptop in windows, then restart and see if it loads grub?
[23:56] <matzy_> thanks for the suggestion, but restarting still brought me automatically back to windows
[23:58] <sarnold> dang
[23:58] <sarnold> I heard something about a windows fast start option somewhere that might be able to be disabled
[23:58] <sarnold> and I think I heard that it's even in some bioses
[23:59] <matzy_> cool, i'll google for that, thanks for the idea
[23:59] <jeremy31> The Windows hybrid shutdown can be changed in power options in Window control panel if I remember