| jibel | duflu, the broken combo bug could be a regression of bug 1822075 | 06:03 |
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| ubot5 | bug 1822075 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "tooltips and combo boxes in webbrowsers are all garbage in xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:19.0.0-1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1822075 | 06:03 |
| duflu | jibel, yes, or just similar | 06:05 |
| duflu | jibel, I guess using Wayland might work around it? | 06:06 |
| jibel | IDK I cannot test right now | 06:06 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:14 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 06:19 |
| Laney | hey | 06:21 |
| duflu | Hey hey Laney | 06:22 |
| duflu | Where be you? | 06:22 |
| Laney | moin duflu | 06:22 |
| Laney | I'm in the conference accommodation | 06:22 |
| Laney | most other people have gone to the beach or to museums | 06:22 |
| Laney | but my flight is soon | 06:22 |
| duflu | Win some and lose some | 06:23 |
| duflu | That's odd. The new Yaru theme is making the temporal dithering in my monitor more visible | 06:23 |
| duflu | Kind of annoying | 06:24 |
| duflu | Because it's fading a white menu over a light blue background. The colours are so close you notice the in-between colours | 06:24 |
| oSoMoN | good morning duflu, Laney | 06:30 |
| Laney | hey oSoMoN | 06:34 |
| Laney | are you well? | 06:34 |
| Laney | duflu: are you sure that the duplicating of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1841661 was right or did you mean a different bug maybe? | 06:41 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1767654 in mutter (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1841661 [Intel Braswell/Apollo Lake] Cursor gets stuck on left side of the screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 06:41 |
| duflu | Laney, it looks like the right bug since the behaviour is apparently the same and they are related generations of CPU | 06:41 |
| Laney | Jonas told me that one is a regression in 5.1/5.2 and the reporter of the one you duped to was on 4.15 | 06:42 |
| duflu | Laney, feel free to separate it | 06:42 |
| Laney | IOW it is a regression in eoan | 06:42 |
| Laney | OK, thanks | 06:43 |
| duflu | That doesn't mean they're really separate bugs but I'm not bothered either way | 06:43 |
| duflu | Don't care to find out right now | 06:43 |
| Laney | Sure, but I'd like to not accidentally fix one bug and leave the other one existing because we thought they were the same when they weren't | 06:44 |
| Laney | if that makes sense | 06:44 |
| duflu | Laney, well that happens and it doesn't hurt generally. Just un-duplicate after verifying that | 06:44 |
| oSoMoN | Laney, I'm good, how are you yourself? | 06:48 |
| Laney | nice, but we just had our last Eklektik breakfast :( | 06:49 |
| oSoMoN | that place is awesome | 06:49 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 07:03 |
| Laney | hey didrocks | 07:07 |
| Laney | you good? | 07:08 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 07:08 |
| oSoMoN | good morning didrocks | 07:09 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, I'm fine, thanks, you? Last day of Bof? | 07:10 |
| Laney | no bof today, there's a beach and a museum trip | 07:11 |
| Laney | but I'm going home! | 07:11 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, oSoMoN | 07:14 |
| didrocks | oh, safe travel Laney! | 07:15 |
| seb128 | goooood morning desktopers | 07:23 |
| duflu | Morning seb128 | 07:33 |
| seb128 | hey duflu, how are you today? | 07:33 |
| duflu | seb128, good and bad. Sad the top performance fix in 3.34 got reverted because of bugs in the Wayland backend. But I understand because I haven't yet offered a complete fix for that | 07:34 |
| duflu | How are you seb128? | 07:34 |
| seb128 | it did? :( | 07:35 |
| seb128 | I'm good | 07:35 |
| seb128 | they didn't want to wait for a fix? | 07:35 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128 | 07:36 |
| duflu | No. I understand though. It's the stable solution | 07:36 |
| seb128 | they might commit it back if a fix comes in time? | 07:37 |
| duflu | seb128, I'm looking into it. Unfortunately it mostly involves rewriting that 1.5 years of work that was discarded in mutter!73 | 07:38 |
| duflu | So I really need to find a solution that avoids that | 07:38 |
| seb128 | :( | 07:38 |
| duflu | Or rewrite that (which will be less than 1.5 years the second time) | 07:38 |
| duflu | I also have myself to blame for not finishing that. Although my excuse is that we deprioritised Wayland | 07:39 |
| duflu | But now that's hurting Xorg | 07:39 |
| seb128 | we could perhaps distro patch that back? | 07:41 |
| duflu | seb128, no forget that -- I stopped working on it because Jonas rewrote everything and the conflicts became overwhelming | 07:43 |
| duflu | It also would not be mature if I had a replacement soon | 07:43 |
| seb128 | I meant the commit they reverted | 07:43 |
| duflu | seb128, it hurts Wayland too much right now, which still affects some of our users | 07:43 |
| duflu | -hurts +crashes | 07:44 |
| seb128 | ah, crash :/ | 07:44 |
| seb128 | k then | 07:44 |
| duflu | seb128, that email I sent today is unrelated to all this. We can go ahead with that | 07:45 |
| seb128 | right | 07:47 |
| seb128 | brb, changing location | 08:06 |
| willcooke | Morning all | 08:10 |
| lis | good morning :) | 08:11 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 08:11 |
| didrocks | morning lis | 08:11 |
| lis | hey didrocks :) | 08:12 |
| lis | did you go to guadec? | 08:12 |
| didrocks | lis: I didn't, was on holidays also avoiding travelling right now (planes) | 08:12 |
| didrocks | you? | 08:12 |
| lis | no :( | 08:13 |
| lis | had a family vacation in the middle of the main part. thought about coming for the couple of days of bofs, but decided not to | 08:13 |
| oSoMoN | good morning willcooke, lis | 08:29 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke and lis | 08:30 |
| seb128 | hey oSoMoN willcooke, how are you? | 08:34 |
| oSoMoN | seb128, I'm good, how are you? | 08:36 |
| oSoMoN | you made it home safely? | 08:37 |
| seb128 | yeah, easy trip | 08:37 |
| seb128 | the bus stressed me a bit, I installed that GUADEC recommended map which told me to take 28B at :23 | 08:38 |
| seb128 | but another bus arrived at :20 | 08:38 |
| seb128 | with a plane sign on the screen, so I walked in | 08:38 |
| seb128 | but couldn't read any of the greek signs at all then | 08:39 |
| seb128 | so I was unsure for a while if I was on the right bus | 08:39 |
| seb128 | then the rest was easy :) | 08:39 |
| popey | Hello desktoppers! | 09:08 |
| popey | Where is the source for ubuntu firstrun application used in 18.04.3? | 09:08 |
| Laney | gnome-initial-setup | 09:09 |
| popey | thanks | 09:09 |
| Laney | some desktop and ex-desktop things in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2019-August/040787.html | 09:10 |
| popey | That doesn't look like the source for the Ubuntu firstrun thing. | 09:11 |
| popey | Is there some plugin we use or something that does all the livepatch and "You're ready to go" recommended software? | 09:12 |
| Laney | it is | 09:13 |
| Laney | laney@nightingale> grep "You're ready to go" **/*.ui ~/temp/gnome-initial-setup-3.28.0 | 09:13 |
| Laney | gnome-initial-setup/pages/apps/gis-apps-page.ui: <property name="label" translatable="yes">You're ready to go!</property> | 09:13 |
| popey | oh, i cloned master | 09:13 |
| Laney | the Ubuntu modifications are done via distro patches, so you'll need to get the source from the fork on Gitlab or from the archive | 09:14 |
| Laney | s/patches/changes/? not sure if they are actual debian/patches | 09:14 |
| popey | https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-initial-setup | 09:15 |
| popey | ? | 09:15 |
| Laney | https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-initial-setup/tree/ubuntu-welcome-bionic this one I think for bionic | 09:15 |
| Laney | ICBW | 09:15 |
| popey | ta | 09:15 |
| Laney | got to go through a passport gate now, be back if I get the chance | 09:15 |
| popey | o/ | 09:15 |
| * Laney mutters about schengen | 09:15 | |
| seb128 | popey, hey, what are you trying to change there? | 09:15 |
| popey | Not change, investigate. | 09:15 |
| seb128 | Laney, good luck :) | 09:15 |
| popey | I watched a video where someone did an install, and the final page which shows software, showed the wrong applications (IMO) | 09:16 |
| Laney | nosy128 :P | 09:16 |
| seb128 | haha | 09:16 |
| popey | It showed the current featured list, not the firstrun featured list specifcally made for the firstrun wizard | 09:16 |
| willcooke | popey, remember that it hides apps you already have installed | 09:16 |
| popey | not what I'm concerned about willcooke | 09:17 |
| popey | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zZAPIIXa/This%20list%20is%20wrong | 09:17 |
| popey | It's a clean install so it won't be hiding anything | 09:17 |
| seb128 | popey, https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/tree/debian/patches/0001-Add-Ubuntu-mode-with-special-pages.patch#n909 | 09:17 |
| willcooke | got ya | 09:17 |
| seb128 | popey, that's the call it's doing | 09:18 |
| popey | so it's looking for the ubuntu-firstrun section in the store | 09:18 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:18 |
| popey | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/viSLoQGQ/ | 09:18 |
| seb128 | store changed without telling us? | 09:19 |
| popey | perhaps | 09:19 |
| popey | I'll poke them | 09:19 |
| popey | thanks! | 09:19 |
| seb128 | thx, let us know | 09:19 |
| popey | (not your bug by the look of it) :D | 09:19 |
| seb128 | :-) | 09:19 |
| popey | seb128: started a thread on the forum, looks like snapd or snapd-glib to blame, maybe? https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/ubuntu-firstrun-hidden-section-not-showing-in-ubuntu-initial-setup/12966 | 11:42 |
| seb128 | popey, thx, probably one for robert_ancell but he might not be much around in the next days, travelling back from GUADEC | 11:56 |
| popey | I thought so. It's not a catastrophe, but just a weird bug I guess. | 11:56 |
| seb128 | popey, trying maybe sending Robert an email to make sure he doesn't miss it | 12:01 |
| popey | will do | 12:01 |
| duflu | Phew. seb128 I just reproposed the optimization, with built-in fixes for those side-effects. | 12:12 |
| duflu | And now good night | 12:12 |
| seb128 | duflu, woot, well done | 12:12 |
| seb128 | night! | 12:12 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, there is a newer libinput point release, do you want to do the update or should I? ;) | 12:15 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: Can you please take a look at what I did here: | 12:41 |
| GunnarHj | https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/usb-modeswitch/+packages | 12:41 |
| GunnarHj | It depends on tcl8.6, which is in main, and the dispatcher is a shell script run via tclsh8.6. | 12:41 |
| tjaalton | seb128: I'll push it to debian | 12:58 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, thx | 13:01 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey, do you still plan to look at the gnome-getting-started-docs and gnome-user-docs updates? | 13:01 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Yes.. But they are still on 3.33.90, and since they are not affecting anything else, I feel I'd better wait for 3.34.0 (at least). Am I missing anything by thinking so? | 13:09 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, we updated all the other GNOME components, and technical it's a new serie and we missed feature freeze and need a ffe now (though maybe less true for documentation) | 13:11 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, I would expect it to go with the rest of GNOME | 13:11 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Doing it in Ubuntu is easy, and I could do that later today, if you like. Updating Debian's repos is more work, and it would be good to only need to do that once IMO. | 13:13 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, if you could update for Ubuntu for now that would be nice | 13:13 |
| seb128 | we can do Debian once 3.34 is out | 13:14 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, will do. Btw, as regards Debian, would it be possible that you give me write access to those repos? Would be a bit inconvenient to handle new upstream via merge requests. | 13:15 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, I don't think I can ask, maybe check L_aney (he's travelling today though) if he remembers what is needed to be added | 13:16 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, also do you think we could update libxkbcommon through Debian? | 13:18 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Sure, I can ask him. I just created an own repo, and noticed that there is a setting for inviting additional members. | 13:19 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, also libx11? | 13:21 |
| cyphermox | GunnarHj: no; this is exactly what we don't want (a tcl script in the boot path) | 13:48 |
| cyphermox | tcl8.6 isn't currently part of the boot path, nothing needs it, so loading yet another interpreter to run a single script is really not great for boot speed and performance | 13:49 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: That's what I feared you should say, so I'm about to fix the patch instead. ;) | 13:49 |
| cyphermox | GunnarHj: if you think this is no longer an issue, best would be to pitch it to vorlon; he was the original requester for fixing usb-modeswitch :) | 13:50 |
| cyphermox | tbh, I understand the concerns, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on boot speed, compared to the sustained effort of maintaining that patch | 13:50 |
| cyphermox | otoh, by now usb-modeswitch strikes me as pretty much a dead thing, used less and less | 13:51 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: I'm not skilled enough to argue with any of you on that topic. | 13:51 |
| cyphermox | GunnarHj: please don't think like that, that's just not true | 13:51 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: And yes, not much happens upstream with usb-modeswitch nowadays. | 13:51 |
| cyphermox | we all start from somewhere, I expect fixing the patch is also weirdish | 13:52 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: It is, but it's done now. :) | 13:52 |
| cyphermox | it was a very crude patch using just C and as few things as possible | 13:52 |
| cyphermox | oh, cool | 13:52 |
| cyphermox | GunnarHj: if you noticed, it's like a third-grader did a word-for-word translation of some bad essay from one language to another ;) | 13:53 |
| GunnarHj | cyphermox: Haha, TBH i haven't looked much at the code. The OP pointed to the problem, so I just removed a trailing newline from a string. | 13:54 |
| cyphermox | ah, cool | 13:54 |
| tjaalton | seb128: eventually es | 14:04 |
| tjaalton | yes | 14:04 |
| tjaalton | there's bunch of janitorial things to finish acrosse the whole stack | 14:05 |
| tjaalton | -e | 14:05 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, sorry for the nags, I'm still trying to get on top of https://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/desktop-packages.html, we are getting there :) | 14:05 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, unsure if you saw but I updated a good stack of the xthings which were a minor behind for eoan | 14:05 |
| tjaalton | there hasn't been anyone else doing updates in the past 6mo or so | 14:05 |
| tjaalton | on debian side | 14:06 |
| seb128 | is the stack in lowNMU? ;) | 14:06 |
| tjaalton | dunno | 14:07 |
| seb128 | I can maybe upload those to Debian at the start of the next Ubuntu cycle if they still haven't got updated | 14:07 |
| tjaalton | should land in git too | 14:07 |
| seb128 | right | 14:07 |
| willcooke | night all | 17:12 |
| k_alam | Laney: Hi, u there ? | 17:17 |
| k_alam | Laney: There is some issue with recent gnome-session update, if I try to update, it tries to uninstall unity-session ? | 17:21 |
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