[06:03] duflu, the broken combo bug could be a regression of bug 1822075 [06:03] bug 1822075 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "tooltips and combo boxes in webbrowsers are all garbage in xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:19.0.0-1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1822075 [06:05] jibel, yes, or just similar [06:06] jibel, I guess using Wayland might work around it? [06:06] IDK I cannot test right now [06:14] good morning desktoppers [06:19] Hi oSoMoN [06:21] hey [06:22] Hey hey Laney [06:22] Where be you? [06:22] moin duflu [06:22] I'm in the conference accommodation [06:22] most other people have gone to the beach or to museums [06:22] but my flight is soon [06:23] Win some and lose some [06:23] That's odd. The new Yaru theme is making the temporal dithering in my monitor more visible [06:24] Kind of annoying [06:24] Because it's fading a white menu over a light blue background. The colours are so close you notice the in-between colours [06:30] good morning duflu, Laney [06:34] hey oSoMoN [06:34] are you well? [06:41] duflu: are you sure that the duplicating of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1841661 was right or did you mean a different bug maybe? [06:41] Launchpad bug 1767654 in mutter (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1841661 [Intel Braswell/Apollo Lake] Cursor gets stuck on left side of the screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] [06:41] Laney, it looks like the right bug since the behaviour is apparently the same and they are related generations of CPU [06:42] Jonas told me that one is a regression in 5.1/5.2 and the reporter of the one you duped to was on 4.15 [06:42] Laney, feel free to separate it [06:42] IOW it is a regression in eoan [06:43] OK, thanks [06:43] That doesn't mean they're really separate bugs but I'm not bothered either way [06:43] Don't care to find out right now [06:44] Sure, but I'd like to not accidentally fix one bug and leave the other one existing because we thought they were the same when they weren't [06:44] if that makes sense [06:44] Laney, well that happens and it doesn't hurt generally. Just un-duplicate after verifying that [06:48] Laney, I'm good, how are you yourself? [06:49] nice, but we just had our last Eklektik breakfast :( [06:49] that place is awesome === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski [07:03] good morning [07:07] hey didrocks [07:08] you good? [07:08] Morning didrocks [07:09] good morning didrocks [07:10] hey Laney, I'm fine, thanks, you? Last day of Bof? [07:11] no bof today, there's a beach and a museum trip [07:11] but I'm going home! [07:14] hey duflu, oSoMoN [07:15] oh, safe travel Laney! [07:23] goooood morning desktopers [07:33] Morning seb128 [07:33] hey duflu, how are you today? [07:34] seb128, good and bad. Sad the top performance fix in 3.34 got reverted because of bugs in the Wayland backend. But I understand because I haven't yet offered a complete fix for that [07:34] How are you seb128? [07:35] it did? :( [07:35] I'm good [07:35] they didn't want to wait for a fix? [07:36] salut seb128 [07:36] No. I understand though. It's the stable solution [07:37] they might commit it back if a fix comes in time? [07:38] seb128, I'm looking into it. Unfortunately it mostly involves rewriting that 1.5 years of work that was discarded in mutter!73 [07:38] So I really need to find a solution that avoids that [07:38] :( [07:38] Or rewrite that (which will be less than 1.5 years the second time) [07:39] I also have myself to blame for not finishing that. Although my excuse is that we deprioritised Wayland [07:39] But now that's hurting Xorg [07:41] we could perhaps distro patch that back? [07:43] seb128, no forget that -- I stopped working on it because Jonas rewrote everything and the conflicts became overwhelming [07:43] It also would not be mature if I had a replacement soon [07:43] I meant the commit they reverted [07:43] seb128, it hurts Wayland too much right now, which still affects some of our users [07:44] -hurts +crashes [07:44] ah, crash :/ [07:44] k then [07:45] seb128, that email I sent today is unrelated to all this. We can go ahead with that [07:47] right [08:06] brb, changing location [08:10] Morning all [08:11] good morning :) [08:11] hey willcooke [08:11] morning lis [08:12] hey didrocks :) [08:12] did you go to guadec? [08:12] lis: I didn't, was on holidays also avoiding travelling right now (planes) [08:12] you? [08:13] no :( [08:13] had a family vacation in the middle of the main part. thought about coming for the couple of days of bofs, but decided not to [08:29] good morning willcooke, lis [08:30] Morning willcooke and lis [08:34] hey oSoMoN willcooke, how are you? [08:36] seb128, I'm good, how are you? [08:37] you made it home safely? [08:37] yeah, easy trip [08:38] the bus stressed me a bit, I installed that GUADEC recommended map which told me to take 28B at :23 [08:38] but another bus arrived at :20 [08:38] with a plane sign on the screen, so I walked in [08:39] but couldn't read any of the greek signs at all then [08:39] so I was unsure for a while if I was on the right bus [08:39] then the rest was easy :) [09:08] Hello desktoppers! [09:08] Where is the source for ubuntu firstrun application used in 18.04.3? [09:09] gnome-initial-setup [09:09] thanks [09:10] some desktop and ex-desktop things in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2019-August/040787.html [09:11] That doesn't look like the source for the Ubuntu firstrun thing. [09:12] Is there some plugin we use or something that does all the livepatch and "You're ready to go" recommended software? [09:13] it is [09:13] laney@nightingale> grep "You're ready to go" **/*.ui ~/temp/gnome-initial-setup-3.28.0 [09:13] gnome-initial-setup/pages/apps/gis-apps-page.ui: You're ready to go! [09:13] oh, i cloned master [09:14] the Ubuntu modifications are done via distro patches, so you'll need to get the source from the fork on Gitlab or from the archive [09:14] s/patches/changes/? not sure if they are actual debian/patches [09:15] https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-initial-setup [09:15] ? [09:15] https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-initial-setup/tree/ubuntu-welcome-bionic this one I think for bionic [09:15] ICBW [09:15] ta [09:15] got to go through a passport gate now, be back if I get the chance [09:15] o/ [09:15] * Laney mutters about schengen [09:15] popey, hey, what are you trying to change there? [09:15] Not change, investigate. [09:15] Laney, good luck :) [09:16] I watched a video where someone did an install, and the final page which shows software, showed the wrong applications (IMO) [09:16] nosy128 :P [09:16] haha [09:16] It showed the current featured list, not the firstrun featured list specifcally made for the firstrun wizard [09:16] popey, remember that it hides apps you already have installed [09:17] not what I'm concerned about willcooke [09:17] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zZAPIIXa/This%20list%20is%20wrong [09:17] It's a clean install so it won't be hiding anything [09:17] popey, https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/tree/debian/patches/0001-Add-Ubuntu-mode-with-special-pages.patch#n909 [09:17] got ya [09:18] popey, that's the call it's doing [09:18] so it's looking for the ubuntu-firstrun section in the store [09:18] yes [09:18] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/viSLoQGQ/ [09:19] store changed without telling us? [09:19] perhaps [09:19] I'll poke them [09:19] thanks! [09:19] thx, let us know [09:19] (not your bug by the look of it) :D [09:19] :-) [11:42] seb128: started a thread on the forum, looks like snapd or snapd-glib to blame, maybe? https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/ubuntu-firstrun-hidden-section-not-showing-in-ubuntu-initial-setup/12966 [11:56] popey, thx, probably one for robert_ancell but he might not be much around in the next days, travelling back from GUADEC [11:56] I thought so. It's not a catastrophe, but just a weird bug I guess. [12:01] popey, trying maybe sending Robert an email to make sure he doesn't miss it [12:01] will do [12:12] Phew. seb128 I just reproposed the optimization, with built-in fixes for those side-effects. [12:12] And now good night [12:12] duflu, woot, well done [12:12] night! [12:15] tjaalton, there is a newer libinput point release, do you want to do the update or should I? ;) [12:41] cyphermox: Can you please take a look at what I did here: [12:41] https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/usb-modeswitch/+packages [12:41] It depends on tcl8.6, which is in main, and the dispatcher is a shell script run via tclsh8.6. [12:58] seb128: I'll push it to debian [13:01] tjaalton, thx [13:01] GunnarHj, hey, do you still plan to look at the gnome-getting-started-docs and gnome-user-docs updates? [13:09] seb128: Yes.. But they are still on 3.33.90, and since they are not affecting anything else, I feel I'd better wait for 3.34.0 (at least). Am I missing anything by thinking so? [13:11] GunnarHj, we updated all the other GNOME components, and technical it's a new serie and we missed feature freeze and need a ffe now (though maybe less true for documentation) [13:11] GunnarHj, I would expect it to go with the rest of GNOME [13:13] seb128: Doing it in Ubuntu is easy, and I could do that later today, if you like. Updating Debian's repos is more work, and it would be good to only need to do that once IMO. [13:13] GunnarHj, if you could update for Ubuntu for now that would be nice [13:14] we can do Debian once 3.34 is out [13:15] seb128: Ok, will do. Btw, as regards Debian, would it be possible that you give me write access to those repos? Would be a bit inconvenient to handle new upstream via merge requests. [13:16] GunnarHj, I don't think I can ask, maybe check L_aney (he's travelling today though) if he remembers what is needed to be added [13:18] tjaalton, also do you think we could update libxkbcommon through Debian? [13:19] seb128: Sure, I can ask him. I just created an own repo, and noticed that there is a setting for inviting additional members. [13:21] tjaalton, also libx11? [13:48] GunnarHj: no; this is exactly what we don't want (a tcl script in the boot path) [13:49] tcl8.6 isn't currently part of the boot path, nothing needs it, so loading yet another interpreter to run a single script is really not great for boot speed and performance [13:49] cyphermox: That's what I feared you should say, so I'm about to fix the patch instead. ;) [13:50] GunnarHj: if you think this is no longer an issue, best would be to pitch it to vorlon; he was the original requester for fixing usb-modeswitch :) [13:50] tbh, I understand the concerns, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it has on boot speed, compared to the sustained effort of maintaining that patch [13:51] otoh, by now usb-modeswitch strikes me as pretty much a dead thing, used less and less [13:51] cyphermox: I'm not skilled enough to argue with any of you on that topic. [13:51] GunnarHj: please don't think like that, that's just not true [13:51] cyphermox: And yes, not much happens upstream with usb-modeswitch nowadays. [13:52] we all start from somewhere, I expect fixing the patch is also weirdish [13:52] cyphermox: It is, but it's done now. :) [13:52] it was a very crude patch using just C and as few things as possible [13:52] oh, cool [13:53] GunnarHj: if you noticed, it's like a third-grader did a word-for-word translation of some bad essay from one language to another ;) [13:54] cyphermox: Haha, TBH i haven't looked much at the code. The OP pointed to the problem, so I just removed a trailing newline from a string. [13:54] ah, cool [14:04] seb128: eventually es [14:04] yes [14:05] there's bunch of janitorial things to finish acrosse the whole stack [14:05] -e [14:05] tjaalton, sorry for the nags, I'm still trying to get on top of https://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/desktop-packages.html, we are getting there :) [14:05] tjaalton, unsure if you saw but I updated a good stack of the xthings which were a minor behind for eoan [14:05] there hasn't been anyone else doing updates in the past 6mo or so [14:06] on debian side [14:06] is the stack in lowNMU? ;) [14:07] dunno [14:07] I can maybe upload those to Debian at the start of the next Ubuntu cycle if they still haven't got updated [14:07] should land in git too [14:07] right [17:12] night all [17:17] Laney: Hi, u there ? [17:21] Laney: There is some issue with recent gnome-session update, if I try to update, it tries to uninstall unity-session ? === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk