| Eickmeyer[m] | OvenWerks: ack | 00:48 |
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| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I'm leaning toward invalidating bug 1841746 since it very much seems like a support request, and it's nearly impossible for a metapackage to have a bug like that being described. Basically, it needs to be narrowed-down, since the meta is too broad. | 16:21 |
| ubottu | bug 1841746 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "Installing ubntustudio-audio causes hang at login" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841746 | 16:21 |
| Eickmeyer | As for bug 1839182, perhaps that's a bug in tk/tcl? | 16:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1839182 in ubuntustudio-installer (Ubuntu) "Error: divie by zero" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1839182 | 16:22 |
| studiobot | <teward001> > division by zero | 16:32 |
| studiobot | <teward001> can we somehow blame Simon for this 😜 | 16:32 |
| Eickmeyer | @teward001 Absolutely. Only tsimonq2 can cause the universe to implode like that. | 17:04 |
| OvenWerks | yup bug... three of them actually. | 17:06 |
| OvenWerks | well maybe only two | 17:07 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: So, what are we looking at for 1841746? | 17:12 |
| OvenWerks | I have asked for more information | 17:14 |
| OvenWerks | until the user answers I don't know | 17:15 |
| Eickmeyer | And for 1839182, should we reassign to tk/tcl or is it definitely an issue with -installer? | 17:15 |
| OvenWerks | he did say that the fix button wasn't available meaning jack was correctly installed. | 17:16 |
| OvenWerks | 182 is an installer problem. the possibility of that being zero should be checked for. both in the place listed and a few lines up? (or is that down?) | 17:18 |
| OvenWerks | anyway there are two of them | 17:18 |
| OvenWerks | I have to first figgure out what they are doing because they down't look right logically either... but because they work I probably just don't know what they are trying to do. The problem would likely be there no matter of it was tcl, python, perl or c++ | 17:19 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, so definitely a bug in -installler. Then I'll leave it as-is. | 17:20 |
| OvenWerks | From a first glance it looks like the progress bar should be going down instead of up :P | 17:20 |
| Eickmeyer | He did respond in 1841746, and I reiterated the question you asked about running ubuntustudio-controls again. No response so far to that. | 17:21 |
| OvenWerks | So obviously I don't know what the numbers are. I thought they were *% numbers but that doesn't make sense | 17:22 |
| OvenWerks | yes but he had answered or at least given me the information I had hoped to get the questions I asked | 17:23 |
| OvenWerks | There was no "fix" button to press, so it did not need it. | 17:28 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok | 17:37 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: do you remember when running installer if the process bar stops after downloading and then jumps when it start setting the packages up and then sits till the end? | 17:39 |
| Eickmeyer | I don't remember that clearly. I'd have to play with it. | 17:39 |
| OvenWerks | (thats what the code looks like) | 17:39 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: With your latest comment on bug 1841746, I'm guessing that bug is a support request more than anything else. Agree? | 19:22 |
| ubottu | bug 1841746 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "Installing ubntustudio-audio causes hang at login" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841746 | 19:22 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: if there is one of our packages either by installing or by running that causes this problem, it is a bug. | 19:50 |
| OvenWerks | IE if installing ubuntustudio-performance-tweaks without lowlatency causes a problem then depends needs to change | 19:51 |
| OvenWerks | if running jack, zita-ajbridge, etc. causes the DE to stall or not start we need to know. | 19:52 |
| Eickmeyer | Here's the seed for -audio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gXJGrVtk85/ | 20:03 |
| Eickmeyer | There is absolutely nothing there that can cause this. | 20:03 |
| Eickmeyer | The only thing in -performance-tweaks could be the timer perms. | 20:06 |
| OvenWerks | Oh, the actual package the bug belongs to is not yet established | 20:07 |
| OvenWerks | it could also be the extra codecs from audio-core for all I know (or their lack?) | 20:07 |
| OvenWerks | none of those things are running at session start | 20:08 |
| OvenWerks | and things in */autostart should not be starting till after the DE has already started | 20:08 |
| OvenWerks | Normally if the DE has started and then part of it dies, the crash box comes up and asks if you want to send a bug | 20:09 |
| OvenWerks | if that doesn't happen, it would seem it should be the WM that didn't start | 20:10 |
| OvenWerks | if the WM doesn't start, I would expect the user to end up back in the login screen | 20:11 |
| OvenWerks | unless... systemd changes this | 20:11 |
| Eickmeyer | No, systemd doesn't manage that at all. That's all the DM. | 20:11 |
| OvenWerks | So we have the problem, we need the relevent logfiles from a prooer bug report but the user can't provide such a bug report because the system hangs | 20:20 |
| OvenWerks | So we have to trouble shoot the old fashioned way :P | 20:20 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Yes, we need to get them into the proper support channel. Problem is, this is not a bug until it is determined to actually be a bug, whether perceived or not. Right now, the bug report is invalid since he didn't even have -performance-tweaks installed. | 20:42 |
| Eickmeyer | It's a support request until it's determined to be a bug, which is not how Launchpad works. Bug reports should only be bug reports once they are determined to actually be a bug. | 20:44 |
| Eickmeyer | So, after all the troubleshooting steps have been done and the bug is found, then it needs to be a bug report, not before. | 20:46 |
| Eickmeyer | Also, considering the thousands of people running Ubuntu (and our metas) on Dell XPS 13s without issue, I'm inclined to believe this is a home directory configuration problem. | 20:48 |
| OvenWerks | Ga, the math is all wrong in installer. What was I thinking? | 21:26 |
| Eickmeyer | At least we're at a good time in the cycle for bug fixes. | 21:29 |
| OvenWerks | It is uploaded but I can't test it without first installing another flavour to test it on :) | 21:44 |
| OvenWerks | so don't release it till I test. | 21:44 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: ^ | 21:45 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: ack | 21:45 |
| * OvenWerks is zsyncing kubuntu... | 21:46 | |
| OvenWerks | 74.4% :P | 21:47 |
| Eickmeyer | I've seen worse (had 50% the other day on the seed file). | 21:56 |
| * tsimonq2 salts Eickmeyer | 22:00 | |
| * Eickmeyer peppers tsimonq2 | 22:37 | |
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