[00:48] OvenWerks: ack [16:21] OvenWerks: I'm leaning toward invalidating bug 1841746 since it very much seems like a support request, and it's nearly impossible for a metapackage to have a bug like that being described. Basically, it needs to be narrowed-down, since the meta is too broad. [16:21] bug 1841746 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "Installing ubntustudio-audio causes hang at login" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841746 [16:22] As for bug 1839182, perhaps that's a bug in tk/tcl? [16:22] bug 1839182 in ubuntustudio-installer (Ubuntu) "Error: divie by zero" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1839182 [16:32] > division by zero [16:32] can we somehow blame Simon for this 😜 [17:04] @teward001 Absolutely. Only tsimonq2 can cause the universe to implode like that. [17:06] yup bug... three of them actually. [17:07] well maybe only two [17:12] OvenWerks: So, what are we looking at for 1841746? [17:14] I have asked for more information [17:15] until the user answers I don't know [17:15] And for 1839182, should we reassign to tk/tcl or is it definitely an issue with -installer? [17:16] he did say that the fix button wasn't available meaning jack was correctly installed. [17:18] 182 is an installer problem. the possibility of that being zero should be checked for. both in the place listed and a few lines up? (or is that down?) [17:18] anyway there are two of them [17:19] I have to first figgure out what they are doing because they down't look right logically either... but because they work I probably just don't know what they are trying to do. The problem would likely be there no matter of it was tcl, python, perl or c++ [17:20] Ok, so definitely a bug in -installler. Then I'll leave it as-is. [17:20] From a first glance it looks like the progress bar should be going down instead of up :P [17:21] He did respond in 1841746, and I reiterated the question you asked about running ubuntustudio-controls again. No response so far to that. [17:22] So obviously I don't know what the numbers are. I thought they were *% numbers but that doesn't make sense [17:23] yes but he had answered or at least given me the information I had hoped to get the questions I asked [17:28] There was no "fix" button to press, so it did not need it. [17:37] Ok [17:39] Eickmeyer: do you remember when running installer if the process bar stops after downloading and then jumps when it start setting the packages up and then sits till the end? [17:39] I don't remember that clearly. I'd have to play with it. [17:39] (thats what the code looks like) [19:22] OvenWerks: With your latest comment on bug 1841746, I'm guessing that bug is a support request more than anything else. Agree? [19:22] bug 1841746 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "Installing ubntustudio-audio causes hang at login" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841746 [19:50] Eickmeyer: if there is one of our packages either by installing or by running that causes this problem, it is a bug. [19:51] IE if installing ubuntustudio-performance-tweaks without lowlatency causes a problem then depends needs to change [19:52] if running jack, zita-ajbridge, etc. causes the DE to stall or not start we need to know. [20:03] Here's the seed for -audio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gXJGrVtk85/ [20:03] There is absolutely nothing there that can cause this. [20:06] The only thing in -performance-tweaks could be the timer perms. [20:07] Oh, the actual package the bug belongs to is not yet established [20:07] it could also be the extra codecs from audio-core for all I know (or their lack?) [20:08] none of those things are running at session start [20:08] and things in */autostart should not be starting till after the DE has already started [20:09] Normally if the DE has started and then part of it dies, the crash box comes up and asks if you want to send a bug [20:10] if that doesn't happen, it would seem it should be the WM that didn't start [20:11] if the WM doesn't start, I would expect the user to end up back in the login screen [20:11] unless... systemd changes this [20:11] No, systemd doesn't manage that at all. That's all the DM. [20:20] So we have the problem, we need the relevent logfiles from a prooer bug report but the user can't provide such a bug report because the system hangs [20:20] So we have to trouble shoot the old fashioned way :P [20:42] OvenWerks: Yes, we need to get them into the proper support channel. Problem is, this is not a bug until it is determined to actually be a bug, whether perceived or not. Right now, the bug report is invalid since he didn't even have -performance-tweaks installed. [20:44] It's a support request until it's determined to be a bug, which is not how Launchpad works. Bug reports should only be bug reports once they are determined to actually be a bug. [20:46] So, after all the troubleshooting steps have been done and the bug is found, then it needs to be a bug report, not before. [20:48] Also, considering the thousands of people running Ubuntu (and our metas) on Dell XPS 13s without issue, I'm inclined to believe this is a home directory configuration problem. [21:26] Ga, the math is all wrong in installer. What was I thinking? [21:29] At least we're at a good time in the cycle for bug fixes. [21:44] It is uploaded but I can't test it without first installing another flavour to test it on :) [21:44] so don't release it till I test. [21:45] Eickmeyer: ^ [21:45] OvenWerks: ack [21:46] * OvenWerks is zsyncing kubuntu... [21:47] 74.4% :P [21:56] I've seen worse (had 50% the other day on the seed file). [22:00] * tsimonq2 salts Eickmeyer [22:37] * Eickmeyer peppers tsimonq2