[00:32] <FurretUber> I'm having trouble using ArduBlock on Xubuntu 18.04: the theme made some text boxes have white text on white background. As a comparison there is Linux Mint 19.2 Mate in the same screenshot, showing the background with the proper color and white text: https://i.imgur.com/eHP9BPc.png
[00:49] <brainwash> FurretUber: only happens with the Greybird theme?
[00:50] <brainwash> that is what Xubuntu uses by default
[00:50] <FurretUber> Happens with all light themes installed on stock Xubuntu 18.04, including Greybird
[00:50] <FurretUber> A not-so-good workaround is using a dark theme, as Adwaita-Dark
[00:53] <brainwash> not quite sure what the issue could be
[00:54] <brainwash> mint 19.2 is based on ubuntu 18.04, right?
[00:54] <FurretUber> Yes, it is
[00:54] <brainwash> so, the GTK version should be the same
[00:54] <brainwash> mmh
[00:56] <brainwash> FurretUber: did you check the ArduBlock bug tracker yet?
[00:57] <brainwash> or whatever support channel they have
[00:57] <brainwash> it could be a known issue
[00:58] <FurretUber> I searched and found a single result. It was something related to hard coded colors, so probably from before the current version, as the current version does change text color if I set a dark theme
[00:59] <brainwash> I would check with a default ubuntu installation or live session
[00:59] <FurretUber> I'm downloading Ubuntu Mate 18.04.3 and Linux Mint 19.2 Xfce and will test if it happens on them
[01:00] <brainwash> good idea
[01:46] <sambo> feeling stupid...how do I launch the xubuntu desktop from the command line?
[01:58] <brainwash> sambo: the Xfce session can be started with "startxfce4"
[02:09] <FurretUber> brainwash: I finished testing Linux Mint 19.2 Xfce. The bug is not present on it
[02:13] <FurretUber> And it is present on Ubuntu Mate 18.04.3... strange
[02:18] <FurretUber> brainwash: It's the Mint-Y theme that has something that makes it work right. Copying the Mint-Y theme to Ubuntu Mate live media and setting it made ArduBlock text boxes appear correctly
[02:43] <FurretUber> Using The Mint-Y theme on Xubuntu 18.04 fixes the bug too
[09:26] <brainwash> FurretUber: now it would it interesting to know if the problem is still present 19.04 or 19.10 (dev release)
[09:26] <brainwash> FurretUber: which have more up-to-date GTK themes
[09:58] <csanyipal> Hello,
[10:00] <csanyipal> I am using Latest LTS release: 18.04, Bionic Beaver .
[10:00] <csanyipal> I just instaled Fugio but can't start it.
[10:00] <csanyipal> The message I get is:
[10:00] <csanyipal> ALSA lib conf.c:3750:(snd_config_update_r) Cannot access file /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[10:01] <csanyipal> How can I solve this problem?
[10:35] <rud0lf> what first column of: "ls -a /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf" says?
[10:53] <xubuntu86w> Hi. Does xubuntu include a simple word processor.
[10:54] <Andrio> IIRC it includes LibreOffice.
[10:56] <fiet> You do remember correctly: https://www.ncf.ca/ncf/support/wiki/Xubuntu
[10:56] <fiet> I would not call it simple though
[10:56] <Andrio> It also includes Mousepad.
[10:57] <Andrio> Which is much better than the old Windows Notepad.
[10:57] <xubuntu86w> Thanks. Libre office more than meets my needs.
[11:23] <csanyipal> rud0lf: It says: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[11:23] <rud0lf> ls -l
[11:23] <csanyipal> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9663 dec   19  2018 /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[11:23] <rud0lf> i mean file mode, should be something like 664 or -rw-r--r--
[11:24] <rud0lf> hmmm so that's fine... i'm out of ideas :)
[11:27] <Andrio> that is not 664
[11:45] <rud0lf> 644
[11:45] <rud0lf> my mistake, typo
[11:57] <csanyipal> Thanks, anyway for the try.
[12:13] <FurretUber> brainwash: the white text on white background is also present on Xubuntu 19.04 when using Greybird
[12:13] <diogenes_> FurretUber, on what application?
[12:14] <FurretUber> ArduBlock
[12:15] <diogenes_> have you tried adwaita, adwaita-dark, ark, ark-dark.
[12:17] <FurretUber> Dark themes are a workaround: text appears black and the background white. However, the intended way is to have white text and the background color being the color of the blocks. Here is a image comparing the correct (Linux Mint 19.2 Mate) and the incorrect (Xubuntu 18.04.3): https://i.imgur.com/eHP9BPc.png
[12:19] <diogenes_> maybe it would be possible to do some adjustments in .gtkrc-2-0 or something like that.
[14:14] <xubuntu55w> hello
[14:38] <csanyipal> Bye!
[17:51] <jbpick> So, anyone about?
[17:51] <GridCube> !ask
[17:51] <jbpick> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mars [Radeon HD 8730M] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[17:52] <jbpick> How do I get this to be my primary card?
[17:53] <jbpick> with the new kernel upgrade we have firmware for it
[17:53] <jbpick> this
[17:53] <jbpick> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[17:54] <jbpick> Is impossible to disable
[17:54] <jbpick> Thanks to Dell
[17:56] <jbpick> I'm thinking install the Linux equivalent of the Windows drivers?
[17:56] <jbpick> still don't know that will force it
[18:12] <jbpick> Maybe not. They haven't got anything for that card and this distro. Then again, it DID just happen.
[18:13] <jbpick> Hopefully the kernel update will make the process easier. It's always such a hack otherwise...
[18:24] <jbpick> Possibly related: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107381
[18:25] <jbpick> Right, blacklist VCE and you get a 2D 3D card
[18:33] <jbpick> Aug 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.206140] [drm] ring test on 3 succeeded in 3 usecsAug 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.206147] [drm] ring test on 4 succeeded in 3 usecsAug 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.381875] [drm] ring test on 5 succeeded in 2 usecsAug 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.381880] [drm] UVD initialized successfully.Aug
[18:33] <jbpick> 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.381910] [drm] ib test on ring 0 succeeded in 0 usecsAug 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.381939] [drm] ib test on ring 1 succeeded in 0 usecsAug 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.381970] [drm] ib test on ring 2 succeeded in 0 usecsAug 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.381992] [drm] ib test on ring 3 succeeded
[18:33] <jbpick> in 0 usecsAug 29 13:32:20 desktop kernel: [ 4006.382018] [drm] ib test on ring 4 succeeded in 0 usecsAug 29 13:32:21 desktop kernel: [ 4007.044331] [drm] ib test on ring 5 succeeded
[18:34] <jbpick> X specific error?
[18:37] <jbpick> gpu-manager.log
[18:38] <jbpick> last cards number = 2Has amd? yesHas intel? yesHas nvidia? noHow many cards? 2Has the system changed? NoIntel IGP detectedDesktop system detectedor laptop with open driversNothing to do
[18:42] <jbpick> [ 3971.351355] radeon 0000:01:00.0: failed VCE resume (-110).[ 4006.057249] radeon 0000:01:00.0: failed VCE resume (-110).
[18:42] <jbpick> dmesg | egrep -i 'vce|error'
[18:43] <jbpick> What do I do, add to that bug? Which logs? Another driver?
[18:58] <jbpick> Dell Inspiron 3721, had the option for Ubuntu OEM installed
[19:00] <jbpick> I apologize if I am being verbose/talkative. Questions: What do I do, add to that bug? Which logs? Another driver? Another *nix?
[19:00] <tomreyn> !paste
[19:00] <jbpick> Thanks Tom
[19:02] <tomreyn> with every issue there is, start by telling us your exact ubuntu and kernel version
[19:02] <tomreyn> nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
[19:05] <jbpick> https://termbin.com/41qb
[19:07] <tomreyn> and the issue you're trying to sdolve is that you want to use only intel graphics, not amd?
[19:07] <jbpick> The inverse.
[19:09] <tomreyn> so what have you done to disable the intel graphics so far?
[19:09] <jbpick> I looked for an option in the BIOS. There isn't one to disable the integrated GPU.
[19:11] <jbpick> I've read Debian and Ubuntu SwitchableGraphics documentation but the last time I tried that...
[19:12] <jbpick> it was worse than leaving it alone.
[19:13] <jbpick> Is there some OpenGL app I can point at the amd to see what happens?
[19:13] <tomreyn> you could try blacklisting the i915 module
[19:13] <jbpick> k
[19:14] <tomreyn> also the suggestions here to power off and disable driver management of a given pci bus: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215054
[19:15] <tomreyn> lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:15] <tomreyn> ...should list graphics chips and their location
[19:17] <jbpick> Yep https://termbin.com/kunn
[19:18] <tomreyn> so 00:02.0 is what you'd want to unbind i915 from in case it still gets loaded after blacklisting
[19:18] <jbpick> Understood.
[19:18] <tomreyn> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/78is1r/complete_disable_of_discrete_gpu/ discusses another approach, using ACPI
[19:19] <jbpick> I'll give that a read. Great info so far.
[19:20] <jbpick> Do we know what the error is saying? Maybe it's just sitting there, as a harmless error
[19:20] <tomreyn> the latter discusses "discrete graphics", though, i.e. an add-in card. it may not work with the intel.
[19:21] <tomreyn> which error? occurring when, in which context, after setting what?
[19:22] <jbpick> radeon 0000:01:00.0: failed VCE resume (-110).
[19:22] <jbpick> Failed to drop into X? Failed to init?
[19:23] <jbpick> Failed to wake from suspend?
[19:24] <tomreyn> "resume" in this message could suggest it is suspend related.
[19:24] <jbpick> Awesome. OK.
[19:25] <tomreyn> but you'd really need to post a full   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999   to provide context.
[19:25] <jbpick> https://termbin.com/n4o5
[19:27] <tomreyn> yet more to play with https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038271/intel-amd-hybrid-graphics-ubuntu-18-04
[19:28] <tomreyn> but this is when both chipsets are active
[19:28] <tomreyn> you have bios a16 from 05/24/2018 - did you look for a newer one?
[19:31] <jbpick> I did try it, but it didn't present an option to disable the intel gpu and it had various mitigations built into it that made it slower
[19:31] <jbpick> So I downgraded
[19:31] <tomreyn> you tried and downgraded what?
[19:32] <jbpick> I reverted the UEFI BIOS from one version more recent dated 1/2019 to the A16 it's running
[19:33] <tomreyn> interesting, since the dell support website only offers A16
[19:33] <jbpick> hmmm
[19:33] <jbpick> Perhaps the process attempted
[19:33] <jbpick> and failed
[19:34] <jbpick> But I also didn't get a brick
[19:34] <tomreyn> or you really had a newer version and they pulled it. hard to tell.
[19:34] <jbpick> Unsure, but good question.
[19:35] <jbpick> Anything else that you see in that most recent hyperlink?
[19:35] <tomreyn> still reading, it's long, will take another 5-10 minutes
[19:36] <jbpick> No hurry, I'll check around then
[19:44] <tomreyn> there are acpi systemio range/opregion address / resource conflicts involving the first PCI graphics chipset (which is probably the intel one). and the firmware claimed it would but effectively did not hand over ASPM control.
[19:44] <tomreyn> vga_switcheroo thinks it has a handle on switching: "detected switching method \_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.ATPX handle"
[19:45] <tomreyn> [drm] Found VCE firmware/feedback version 50.0.1 / 17!
[19:46] <tomreyn> maybe a newer firmware (if available) would not trigger this "radeon 0000:01:00.0: failed VCE resume (-110)." issue
[19:46] <xubuntu28w> hello im having problem with 100% cpu
[19:46] <xubuntu28w> there are two processes called Analytics.exe
[19:47] <diogenes_> exe?
[19:47] <xubuntu28w> yep
[19:47] <diogenes_> is this a prank?
[19:48] <xubuntu28w> what
[19:48] <tomreyn> jbpick: and you have a couple acpi and firmware errors there. you could try whether you can work around those by making the system claim it was windows when talking to the mainboard firmware via ACPI.
[19:48] <diogenes_> exe is windows.
[19:48] <xubuntu28w> https://imgur.com/a/SLhWQW0
[19:49] <Pluscrafter> how?
[19:49] <xubuntu28w> idk
[19:49] <tomreyn> jbpick: https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[19:50] <xubuntu28w> anyone can help?
[19:50] <tomreyn> xubuntu28w: just kill those processes
[19:50] <Pluscrafter> whats the problem
[19:50] <tomreyn> 19938 + 19892
[19:51] <xubuntu28w> two unknown processes, btw they wont appear in the taskmanager gui
[19:51] <Pluscrafter> kill -9 19938 & kill -9 19892
[19:51] <Pluscrafter> kill -9 19938 && kill -9 19892
[19:51] <xubuntu28w> how do i kill them? im a noob...started using linux 3 days ago
[19:51] <xubuntu28w> ok thnx
[19:52] <tomreyn> oh actually those are zombies
[19:52] <tomreyn> interesting, zombies consuming cpu
[19:52] <jbpick> Still listening Tom, so I could tell it for instance that we're in Windows 7 Pro x64
[19:53] <tomreyn> jbpick: yes, but start with the latest windows version your firmware knows about, then try the earlier one if that didn't help, etc.
[19:53] <Pluscrafter> where these processes come from?
[19:54] <tomreyn> xubuntu97w + xubuntu28w is a specialist in coming up with very specific issues every day, doesn't like to discuss the details.
[19:54] <jbpick> So possibly 10-8.1-8-7
[19:55] <tomreyn> jbpick: maybe, if those are reported, yes
[19:55] <tomreyn> internal version numbers differ from those marketing names, though
[19:55] <tomreyn> you'll notice when you list them
[19:55] <xubuntu97w> ok killed them but what are those processes? any idea?
[19:56] <jbpick> OK, cuz "Windows 2015" looked a little odd
[19:56] <jbpick> Maybe that's server 2016?
[19:56] <Pluscrafter>  jbpick whats the disscussion about
[19:57] <jbpick> I want to force a discrete gpu to run in a laptop and axe the integrated. No option in BIOS to do so.
[19:58] <jbpick> There's been like a 5 year kernel bug about it
[19:58] <jbpick> And yes I'll file a bug report
[19:59] <jbpick> Then Tom's here with the possible solution(s.)
[19:59] <Pluscrafter> ok I'm not so familiar with these topics
[20:00] <jbpick> Tom's most excellent indeed. I'm just being !patient.
[20:00] <jbpick> Could be it just logs that error for all of time with no ill effect (but I doubt it.)
[20:02] <jbpick> So Tom... that's a laundry list. I'm compiling bookmarks and a PDF for the work.
[20:04] <tomreyn> please reference bug 1512848 when you file a new one.
[20:05] <tomreyn> it'd be good if you could tell what seems to be the impact of the bug, though, since a bug without impact will have very low priority.
[20:05] <tomreyn> (it can still be good to file it)
[20:07] <jbpick> Swimming a bit, but I think I can do it.
[20:08] <jbpick> The impact is, I know how much faster that GPU is in Windows 7
[20:08] <jbpick> hehe
[20:08] <jbpick> looks like I could compile a kernel.... without VCE 1.0 support?
[20:09] <tomreyn> jbpick: easier, you can use !kernelparm radeon.vce=0
[20:09] <tomreyn> $ modinfo -p radeon | grep -iF vce
[20:09] <tomreyn> vce:vce enable/disable vce support (1 = enable, 0 = disable) (int)
[20:09] <tomreyn> !kernelparm
[20:13] <jbpick> I've got how to do that pretty easily.
[20:14] <jbpick> Nice assist tho
[20:15] <jbpick> Honestly, I'll have to back up all the pastebin thingies
[20:15] <jbpick> They die in like 24h right?
[20:16] <jbpick> Or just skip most of that as it was part of diagnosis?
[20:18] <tomreyn> the system journal you can always regenerate from a fresh boot.
[20:18] <tomreyn> the same goes for lspci
[20:19] <tomreyn> termbin.com posts usually last a while, i'm not sure how long
[20:19] <tomreyn> "Life span of single paste is one month. Older pastes are deleted."
[20:19] <tomreyn> paste.ubuntu.com expiry is as indicated while posting
[20:20] <tomreyn> there does not seem to be a newer VCE than "50.0.1 / 17"
[20:22] <jbpick> I see. I don't mean to keep you longer than you would appreciate.
[20:23] <tomreyn> i'm done on the kernel log (sorry, forgot to point this out), don't have more suggestions right now.
[20:23] <tomreyn> if you'll file a bug report, post it here later mentioning my nickname, please
[20:24] <jbpick> in which places?
[20:24] <tomreyn> use "ubuntu-bug radeon" to get started
[20:24] <jbpick> gotcha
[20:26] <jbpick> Well, honestly, either the driver for that discrete card doesn't give me better graphical performance... if I have to live without it, it's sort of a ding (that I don't know where to put lol)
[20:27] <jbpick> Or, it does work and we'll try to get some loose documentation together. OK?
[20:27] <tomreyn> from what i understood, the bug you'd like to report is "Low graphics performance on Radeon HD 8730M in AMD/Intel Mars Hybrid Graphics"
[20:27] <jbpick> You're correct. Just making sure we cover everything
[20:28] <jbpick> Sorry.
[20:29] <jbpick> Thank you for the assist. Now to see what I can do
[20:29] <tomreyn> it's entirely possible this performance issue can't be solved without updated firmware and / or drivers. you have a long list of things to try before you should give up on it, though. ;)
[20:29] <jbpick> And I'm rather dashedly persistent. :D  ttfn, I will do as you have requested
[20:30] <jbpick> in regard to your handle on the report
[20:30] <tomreyn> if even when the intel gpu is blacklisted, the radeon one will not perform better, your goal should probably be to use the intel gpu exclusively instead.
[20:31] <jbpick> True. At the moment, it's been so many *ubuntus ago
[20:31] <tomreyn> oh i'm just suggesting that you post the url of the bug report and my name here, on irc, when done, so i can have a look. no need (but you're wlecome to where it makes sense) mention me oyour bug report.
[20:31] <tomreyn> i'll go cooking now, ttyl ;)
[20:32] <jbpick> ttyl and ty
[20:32] <tomreyn> yw
[21:30] <xubuntu6w> Hello, can't seem to find it easily. If i want to use Xubuntu LiveCD CLI. What's the username/password?