[00:20] <mup> PR snapcraft#2694 opened: multipass: fix unexpected FileNotFoundError exception in setup_multipass <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2694>
[05:49] <mup> PR snapd#7376 closed: image,o/devicestate,seed: oops, make sure to clear seedtest helpers <Created by pedronis> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7376>
[05:51] <mup> PR snapd#7368 closed: cmd/snap,image,seed:  move image.ValidateSeed to seed.ValidateFromYaml <Created by pedronis> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7368>
[05:53] <mup> PR snapd#7373 closed: overlord/snapstate: revert track-risk behavior change and validation on install <Needs Samuele review> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7373>
[06:22] <mup> PR snapd#7377 opened: patch: add an overlord patch that normalizes channel in state <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7377>
[06:32] <mup> PR snapd#7372 closed: overlord/snapstate: revert track-risk behavior and change validation on install for 2.41 <Needs Samuele review> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7372>
[07:04] <mvo> hey pedronis ! good morning. I'm releasing 2.41 now (just fyi)
[07:10] <mvo> pedronis: also - 7067, should this go in or do you want to work on the feedback first?
[07:11] <pedronis> mvo: I'll work on feedback first, it's not urgent
[07:11] <pstolowski> mornings
[07:15] <mvo> pedronis: ok
[07:15] <mvo> pstolowski: good morning. thanks for your reverts
[07:16] <mvo> pstolowski: its all in and ready now, 2.41 should be in beta soon (just fyi)
[07:16] <pstolowski> mvo: sure, np!
[07:23] <zyga> good morning, sorry for being gone yesterday
[07:24]  * zyga jumps into coding
[07:33] <mup> PR snapd#7378 opened: release: 2.41 <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7378>
[08:23]  * pstolowski is doing some bug triaging
[08:46] <pstolowski> love this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1829229
[08:46] <mup> Bug #1829229: league of legends snap crashes on entering in the game <snapd:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829229>
[08:54] <Chipaca> zyga: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/hard-coded-absolute-paths/12987?u=chipaca
[08:54] <zyga> looking
[08:56] <zyga> thanks
[09:07] <zyga> brb
[09:08] <zyga> mvo: I fixed https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7370 - I'll push the fix after a run of local tests
[09:08] <mup> PR #7370: tests: fix ephemeral mount table in left over by prepare <Test Robustness> <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7370>
[09:08] <mvo> zyga: thanks
[09:38] <mup> PR snapd#7379 opened: tests: add version-tool for comparing versions <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7379>
[09:39]  * zyga needs coffee
[09:40] <mup> PR snapd#7313 closed: many:  add the start of Core 20 extensions support to the model assertion <Created by pedronis> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7313>
[09:40] <pedronis> mvo: got John +1 ^
[09:41] <mup> PR snapd#7380 opened: debian: set GOCACHE dir during build to fix FTBFS on eoan <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7380>
[09:41] <mvo> pedronis: \o/
[09:51]  * zyga looks at https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7218
[09:51] <mup> PR #7218: tests: measure behavior of the device cgroup <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7218>
[10:42]  * pstolowski lunch break
[10:52] <zyga> uh, soo hot
[11:09] <Chipaca> I like how go's testing package avoids 'testing.Testing' by just calling it 'testing.T'
[11:09] <Chipaca> what can I call mockbootloader.MockBootloader? :-)
[11:10] <zyga> Chipaca: could ve testing.It
[11:10] <zyga> Chipaca: mockbootloader.Bootloader seems more appropriate as a type though
[11:11] <Chipaca> mockbootloader.Er
[11:11] <zyga> oh oh
[11:11] <zyga> mockbootload.Er
[11:11] <zyga> ;D
[11:11]  * zyga hides
[11:11] <Chipaca> mockbootloader.WhoYaMockin
[11:11] <Chipaca> mockbootloader.YouTalkingToME
[11:11]  * Chipaca stops going down that one
[11:12] <mup> PR snapd#7381 opened: seed,image,o/devicestate: extract seed loading to seed/seed16.go <Created by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7381>
[11:12]  * Chipaca commits the boring one and goes on to the next chunk
[11:13] <pedronis> that is a big PR
[11:14]  * Chipaca looks
[11:14] <Chipaca> pedronis: is there nowhere non-toplevel for 'seed'?
[11:15] <pedronis> Chipaca: is not new to that PR
[11:15] <pedronis> also it's fairly central
[11:15] <Chipaca> ah i hadnt noticed
[11:15] <pedronis> if we start worrying about top level packages
[11:15] <pedronis> I would do something about some other ones
[11:15] <Chipaca> i do :) but it's not a new worry
[11:15] <Chipaca> that's part of the reason for this refactor chunk
[11:16] <pedronis> anyway what I said
[11:16] <pedronis> Chipaca: we can have a chat about your worry (in general) at some point
[11:16] <Chipaca> k
[11:38] <zyga> hmmmm
[11:38] <zyga> mborzecki will be happy next week
[11:41] <zyga> woah
[11:41] <zyga> I'm so happy
[11:42] <zyga> mvo: I think by and large our cgroup woes are over
[11:43] <zyga> mvo: some actual work needed but conceptually we're going to have a good and clean way to handle our needs
[11:54] <ijohnson> morning folks
[11:59] <pedronis> ijohnson: hi, I'm pushing some small simplications to #7149
[11:59] <mup> PR #7149: cmd: add snap model command; daemon: add /v2/model, /v2/model/serial REST APIs <Remodel :train:> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7149>
[11:59] <ijohnson> hi pedronis
[11:59] <ijohnson> sounds good
[12:10] <pedronis> Chipaca: ijohnson: can you give a quick look at my last change to snap model: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7149/commits/1a679f945673dd6a864a146f00908cffb1a4ddc8
[12:10] <pedronis> when you have time
[12:10] <mup> PR #7149: cmd: add snap model command; daemon: add /v2/model, /v2/model/serial REST APIs <Remodel :train:> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7149>
[12:11] <ijohnson> pedronis: sure I can look now
[12:11] <pedronis> ijohnson: I also tweaked separely api_model_test.go, please look what I did there
[12:12] <pedronis> fyi
[12:12] <ijohnson> ack
[12:14]  * Chipaca needs to go see about lunch
[12:21] <ijohnson> pedronis: reviewed, I think a couple comments around the test behavior would be helpful
[12:21] <ijohnson> I need to finish breakfast actually, bbiab
[12:26] <mvo> zyga: nice, great to hear
[13:41] <diddledan> why do I always read "ack" as "bah"-like, aka a moan or sign of annoyance, instead of "acknowledged"?!
[13:42] <roadmr> diddledan: it sounds to me like a bird skwawking or something
[13:42] <diddledan> ack
[13:42] <diddledan> :-p
[13:45] <roadmr> 🐦
[13:46] <diddledan> 🐧
[13:46] <roadmr> ohai tux
[13:46] <diddledan> :-)
[13:46]  * roadmr checks calendar... yup, it's Friday
[13:46] <diddledan> yey!
[13:47] <diddledan> two new streaming TV series that I've been anticipating have landed today! (Carnival Row on Amazon Prime in the UK at least, and The Dark Crystal on Netflix)
[13:48] <roadmr> dark crystal? nice!
[13:48] <diddledan> I guess my evenings are tied up for the foreseeable :-p
[13:48] <zyga> Chipaca: so
[13:49] <diddledan> The Dark Crystal Trailer: https://youtu.be/WwcvJTVnUgc
[13:50] <Chipaca> zyga: so
[13:50] <roadmr> thanks diddledan ! /me gets out his skeksis tunic and starts making chamberlain skwawks
[13:53] <zyga> Chipaca: I'll make something cold to drink
[13:54] <Chipaca> zyga: my main issue is I can't tell whether you're +1'ing with nits, or what
[13:54] <Chipaca> zyga: your review was wishy-washy :-)
[14:16] <diddledan> thinking about Netflix, makes me wonder what we're missing in the Chromium snap to support it. Amazon also complains.
[14:17] <zyga> Chipaca: +1
[14:17] <zyga> Chipaca: +2 even
[14:17] <zyga> Chipaca: we can  iterate, that's always better unless there's a clear bug in the  code
[14:17] <Chipaca> diddledan: does chromium work outside of the snap?
[14:17] <Chipaca> diddledan: i thought it was widevine
[14:17] <diddledan> I've not tried that
[14:17] <Chipaca> i.e. secret google sauce
[14:17] <diddledan> let me give it a go
[14:18]  * diddledan apt installs and gets confused at having two chromiums :-p
[14:18]  * Chipaca wins
[14:18] <zyga> Chipaca: I'm going for lunch now
[14:18] <Chipaca> zyga: buen provecho
[14:20] <diddledan> ok yeah, it fails outside, too
[14:20] <diddledan> hmm :-(
[14:21] <diddledan> @Wimpress get googlie onboard to publish the real chrome :-p
[14:21] <Chipaca> wooo
[14:21]  * Chipaca merges
[14:21] <mup> PR snapd#7185 closed: boot, etc.: refactor boot to have a lookup with different imps <Created by chipaca> <Merged by chipaca> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7185>
[14:21] <Chipaca> zyga: I'll address some of your concerns in the followup that i'm trying to wrap up
[14:24] <diddledan> interesting: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/chromium-widevine
[14:28] <pedronis> pstolowski: I did a high-level pass on #7355
[14:28] <mup> PR #7355: [RFC] interfaces/apparmor: load multiple profiles in a single batch <Complex> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7355>
[14:41] <mup> PR snapd#7378 closed: release: 2.41 <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7378>
[14:41] <mup> PR snapd#7380 closed: debian: set GOCACHE dir during build to fix FTBFS on eoan <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7380>
[14:49] <zyga> Chipaca: sounds great
[15:02]  * Wimpress adds a task to my list for diddledan 
[15:02] <pstolowski> pedronis: ty
[15:02] <diddledan> \o/
[15:02] <pstolowski> zyga: was this fixed / understood? https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1832725
[15:02] <mup> Bug #1832725: snap refresh failure <snapd:New for zyga> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1832725>
[15:03] <diddledan> Wimpress: my hero 😻
[15:03] <zyga> pstolowski: ah, yes
[15:03] <zyga> pstolowski: this is a dupe, let me find the other one
[15:04] <zyga> pstolowski: dedupped
[15:04] <zyga> thank you
[15:06] <pstolowski> ty
[15:17] <zyga> hmmm
[15:19] <mup> PR snapcraft#2690 closed: remote-build: error when --user is required <Created by cjp256> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2690>
[15:26]  * cachio afk
[15:26] <cachio> for lunch
[15:34] <zyga> quick update and reboot
[16:02] <popey> jdstrand: seeing conversations about printing popping up again. Can we please re-visit https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/inkscape-autoconnect-cups-control/8739
[16:02] <popey> (inkscape)
[16:03] <popey> 6 months later, no reply, and still complaints from users (and developers) that they can design something and then not print it.
[16:04] <ijohnson> pedronis: could you add your thoughts you shared this morning from SU to the forum topic on `snap model`: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/remodeling-to-a-new-model/10477 ?
[16:05] <ijohnson> pedronis: I'm willing to keep sculpting at the output until it's what we want too
[16:06] <ijohnson> though I am now starting to think about this code as less of something that's built like a house and more something that's carved away like a marble michaelangelo sculpture :-)
[16:09] <roadmr> ijohnson: the sculpture is already there, you just have to chisel away the leftover chunks
[16:09] <ijohnson> exactly
[16:09] <ijohnson> I should start all PR's with 100000 lines of random chars and just whittle away the diff until I have a masterpiece
[16:11] <roadmr> ijohnson: meh just train an AI - these days, the artist would be replaced by some machiine learning on michelangel.io
[16:13]  * ijohnson considers buying michelangel.io and not michelangelo.io
[16:16] <roadmr> ijohnson: only because there's no .lo TLD
[16:18] <ijohnson> well also michelangelo.io is $3500/year and michelangel.io is only $45
[16:21] <roadmr> ouch
[16:23] <zyga> it's kind of crazy but the temperature is just right, now, to work :)
[16:26] <pedronis> ijohnson: I'll write something my monday morning there
[16:26] <ijohnson> pedronis: ack thanks
[16:27] <ijohnson> so am I good to merge PR #7149?
[16:27] <mup> PR #7149: cmd: add snap model command; daemon: add /v2/model, /v2/model/serial REST APIs <Remodel :train:> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7149>
[16:38] <Chipaca> ok peeps, i'm out for a while. Will probably be back later to wrap up. TTFN and have an awesome weekend if I don't see you!
[16:55] <zyga> ijohnson: thanks for the review, you found a bug indeed :-)
[17:32] <ijohnson> happy to help zyga :-)
[17:34] <zyga> ijohnson: updated https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7379
[17:34] <mup> PR #7379: tests: add version-tool for comparing versions <Created by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7379>
[17:34] <zyga> if you +1 this it would be my highlight of the day :)
[17:41] <ijohnson> looking now
[17:43] <ijohnson> zyga: +1'd
[17:43] <zyga> woot, thank you!
[17:43] <zyga> back to cgroups :)
[17:44]  * ijohnson takes a break
[18:02] <mup> PR snapd#7149 closed: cmd: add snap model command; daemon: add /v2/model, /v2/model/serial REST APIs <Remodel :train:> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7149>
[18:02] <pedronis> ijohnson: ^ I merged it
[18:04] <mup> PR snapd#7067 closed: overlord/devicestate:  support the device service returning a stream of assertions <Created by pedronis> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7067>
[18:54] <ijohnson> thanks pedronis
[20:01] <B|ack0p> hi
[20:02] <B|ack0p> everytime i boot into ubuntu 18.04 i face system error report popup
[20:02] <B|ack0p> error report doesnt give any detail but when i check the logs
[20:03] <B|ack0p> at the same time i received error report popup these are the possible errors/fails: https://termbin.com/xlo9
[20:03] <B|ack0p> Time is 22:54
[20:03] <B|ack0p> many errors like this:
[20:03] <B|ack0p> Aug 30 22:54:17 uthink-x61 gnome-software[3571]: Failed to load snap icon: local snap has no icon
[20:04] <B|ack0p> Aug 30 22:54:19 uthink-x61 gnome-software[3571]: Failed to load snap icon: local snap has no icon
[20:04] <B|ack0p> oh it is same sorry
[20:04] <B|ack0p> there are 7 same error log as above
[20:40] <mup> PR snapcraft#2695 opened: spread tests: install package marker into ament index <Created by kyrofa> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2695>
[21:45] <jdstrand> popey: please note that there was nothing for me to reply to. the vote is cast. it was contentious. I asked for others to rule on it
[21:46] <jdstrand> popey: I did respond to today's posts
[21:46] <jdstrand> s/rule/comment/