| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 01:56 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 05:58 |
| marcoagpinto | Hello! | 07:06 |
| lordievader | 👋 | 07:34 |
| marcoagpinto | guys, do menus and pop-up menus accept an image bigger than 16x16 pixels? | 07:49 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:12 |
| marcoagpinto | BluesKaj! Hello! | 11:15 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 11:15 |
| marcoagpinto | doing the exercises | 11:15 |
| marcoagpinto | :p | 11:15 |
| BluesKaj | hi marcoagpinto | 11:15 |
| lotus|i5 | https://news.softpedia.com/news/nvidia-releases-new-linux-graphics-driver-with-many-improvements-and-bug-fixes-527209.shtml | 14:18 |
| lotus|i5 | EoflaOE: UWN material ^ ? | 14:19 |
| === lotus|i5 is now known as lotuspsychje | ||
| leftyfb | man, pivot_root is insane | 17:59 |
| leftyfb | I just pivoted the running Ubuntu 16.04 and completely re-imaged it's drive with a new OS | 17:59 |
| lotuspsychje | pivot_root moves the root file system of the current process to the directory put_old and makes new_root the new root file system | 18:01 |
| lotuspsychje | sounds handy leftyfb never used it myself | 18:01 |
| leftyfb | it's pretty nuts | 18:01 |
| leftyfb | it still had some hold on the drive which prevented me from modifying partitions correctly. I actually removed the drive from the scsi_host and rescanned the bus | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | neat | 18:06 |
| sarnold | leftyfb: crazy indeed :) | 18:11 |
| lotuspsychje | whats the deal currently with chromium? is it going snap only or not? i still see apt version too | 18:31 |
| leftyfb | I think I heard not until 19.10? | 18:32 |
| EoflaOE | hi lotuspsychje | 18:32 |
| lotuspsychje | ah | 18:32 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EoflaOE | 18:32 |
| sarnold | lotuspsychje: yeah it looks a bit like that's pushed to eoan but not the earlier releases | 18:33 |
| EoflaOE | lotuspsychje: How are you doing? | 18:33 |
| lotuspsychje | from +1 Version 76.0.3809.100-0ubuntu1~snap1 (eoan) | 18:34 |
| sarnold | tomreyn: i'm going to guess probably ondrej's openssl is installed too, and afaik the answer after that is "please file a bug report at ondrej's github" | 20:22 |
| tomreyn | sarnold: ondrejs openssl would do this then? | 20:56 |
| tomreyn | sorry, i only noted this now. | 20:56 |
| tomreyn | i assume ondrej's openssl would not behave like a centos one. | 20:56 |
| sarnold | tomreyn: heh, I'm not sure what exactly ondrej's openssl does :( I just know that it seems to cause more trouble than it solves | 21:42 |
| sarnold | tomreyn: maybe the happy users don't come on irc to report that they are happy users.. | 21:42 |
| sarnold | the php bits make perfect sense; we're not offering the variety of versions that he does. but openssl.. sigh | 21:42 |
| tomreyn | i think the issue here was the virtuozzo hosting provider | 21:49 |
| tomreyn | they aparently replaced /usr/lib/ssl's default contents by something they found on a centos system. | 21:51 |
| tomreyn | and a user, if they actually knew their trusted CAs was set / overridden that way it, could only fix it by mounting some other directory over this non-writable vtzfs (virtuozzo deduping file system) location. | 21:54 |
| tomreyn | sarnold: ^ | 21:54 |
| tomreyn | vps (in the containers, not proper virtualization sense) are just bad, people should no longer rent them | 21:55 |
| sarnold | tomreyn: *wow* | 21:56 |
| sarnold | tomreyn: what a mess | 21:56 |
| tomreyn | yes :-/ | 21:57 |
| sarnold | tomreyn: I know I've seen more than a few of *those* messes as well. "why I can't install security updates?" "tell your provider to boot into a kernel from this year" | 21:57 |
| tomreyn | http://dpaste.com/3H50XPT | 21:57 |
| tomreyn | hardcoded CAs there, provided by hosting provider | 21:58 |
| tomreyn | *hardwired | 21:58 |
| tomreyn | <thaway> huh, can't move the directory: http://dpaste.com/0S7Y4RS | 21:59 |
| tomreyn | <thaway> hmm, / is a "vzfs" mount which apparently is a virtual fs type that allows sharing between containers | 22:01 |
| tomreyn | <thaway> tomreyn: openvz | 22:01 |
| tomreyn | proper VMs are cheap now, 3 usd / month, there's really no need for doing this to oneself anymore. | 22:03 |
| sarnold | no kidding | 22:04 |
| sarnold | it's one thing to use containers *yourself* as a density thing | 22:05 |
| sarnold | but to have them done *to* you feels pretty mean | 22:05 |
| sarnold | I think my irssi aws instance is about that, three-ish bucks a month. it'll never win performance awards but it's cheap :D | 22:05 |
| tomreyn | yes, especially the way cheap hosts do them to you | 22:05 |
| tomreyn | aws is more expensive, i think t2.nano on demand is 4.17 USD/month | 22:09 |
| tomreyn | others got double resources for half the price | 22:10 |
| sarnold | oh yes? :) I'm by no means wedded to aws, I just happened to have an account there when I needed this thing on short notice.. | 22:13 |
| tomreyn | cx11 (default / shared cpu) is said to be very good: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud?country=gb | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | they dont seem to actually share those cores, yet | 22:16 |
| tomreyn | and you can probably save 20% vat on it soon, too :-/ | 22:17 |
| sarnold | US here, no VAT :) | 22:17 |
| sarnold | I'm not used to seeing english on hetzner pages, hah | 22:18 |
| tomreyn | oh, i was thinking you were in uk | 22:18 |
| tomreyn | maybe the ping is bad then | 22:18 |
| sarnold | yeah, it wouldn't be anyuwhere near as nice as I've got now | 22:18 |
| tomreyn | azure is also a lot cheaper than aws | 22:19 |
| sarnold | sigh aws drops icmp. | 22:19 |
| tomreyn | you forgot to buy premium traffic. | 22:20 |
| sarnold | lol | 22:20 |
| sarnold | itmight be configurable .. but finding out would take time that doesn't *really* help anything :) | 22:20 |
| tomreyn | yes, it really exist | 22:20 |
| tomreyn | oh you mean icmp may be configurable, not sure there | 22:20 |
| tomreyn | maybe the firewall prolicies, yes | 22:21 |
| sarnold | yeah | 22:22 |
| tomreyn | how about https://www.kimsufi.com/us/en/ | 22:22 |
| tomreyn | i.e. canada | 22:22 |
| sarnold | iirc stgraber uses them | 22:23 |
| tomreyn | dedicated server starting at 5 usd ;) | 22:23 |
| sarnold | those look pretty good. thanks tomreyn :) | 22:32 |
| tomreyn | sarnold: make sure you also read the TOS, though. kimsufi is OVH's lowest support level. "ask in forum" | 22:34 |
| sarnold | ouch | 22:34 |
| sarnold | granted I almost never *need* support | 22:34 |
| sarnold | but if I needed it going to a forum doesn't sound fun :) | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | they do handle those requests, but it can take a day or two to have a hdd replaced | 22:35 |
| tomreyn | hmm actually they have a control panel there now, so maybe my info is outdated | 22:38 |
| tomreyn | yes they have request ticketing now. | 22:38 |
| sarnold | yay | 22:39 |
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