[21:32] <sofastrangler> I have been thinking of like the future of ubuntu studio in terms of branding/marketing, visuals, social media presence and stuff, and I'm interested in contributing. So I wonder if there is interest in having someone contribute that stuff. I'm @christalleras@mastodon.art on the fediverse.
[21:32] <sofastrangler> This is super awkward, but IDK any other way of reaching out and stuff. It's probably stupid and the wrong channel Cx
[21:36] <OvenWerks> Not the wrong channel (I think) but Eickmeyer is on holidays and may not answer right away.
[21:37] <OvenWerks> He would be the one to talk to.
[22:03] <Eickmeyer> sofastrangler: I'm the one who handles most of that stuff. And, as you can imagine, it's very difficult to find someone trustworthy enough to take-on that kind of role. So, that to say, hang around here and collaborate with us on ideas.
[22:03] <Eickmeyer> I'll try to ping you when OvenWerks and I (and sometimes others, including teward) have discussions so that you can be included. :)
[22:04] <sofastrangler> Yeah, I'd imagine this
[22:04]  * Eickmeyer realizes he pinged teward for absolutely no reason other than to mess with him
[22:04] <sofastrangler> Or I expected that kind of
[22:04] <sofastrangler> I'll stick around, and you'll see what I have to offer
[22:05] <sofastrangler> I also have experience with organizational work and leadership as a general secretary of a political youth organization and the county leader with years of experience as a treasurer and stuff if that is of interest too.
[22:05] <Eickmeyer> Awesome. We have someone working on a new website theme for us, so that kind of thing is coming. Also, eylul (@azbutulu on Telegram) is here as well and has historically handled the artwork side of things. That said, you're more than welcome to contribute that way. :)
[22:06] <sofastrangler> I know Eylul from before! :)
[22:06] <Eickmeyer> Again, something where you'll kinda have to "prove yourself" for lack of a better term. :)
[22:06] <Eickmeyer> Awesome! Eylul is great.
[22:07] <sofastrangler> Yeah.
[22:08] <sofastrangler> The first thing that comes to mind is a marketing strategy and branding strategy. I'd put some time making two PDFs as how I think it would work well for ubuntu studio which you can do whatever with and go from there.
[22:09] <sofastrangler> Although I am right now working more than full-time during election time, but I'll start working on it from about 10th of September
[22:10] <sofastrangler> And I'll post it here as a link when I am done.
[22:11] <sofastrangler> If it is not of interest I'll just trash it and move on
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> Okay, sounds good. We have someone working on the website, and I like the direction that is going. I'm getting a link for the prototype.
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> http://ubuntustudio.playmain.com
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> sofastrangler: ^
[22:13] <Eickmeyer> So, I'm sure you can figure out some ideas based on that. :)
[22:13] <sofastrangler> Yeah, I'm not a webdesigner or anything so I won't go into that. But I can come with improvements when it comes to visuals and stuff I guess. But what I am more interested is a cohesive plan for how to reach people and target audiences, while delivering a consistant experience between the website, social media and the distro itself.
[22:14] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, totally. I've been working on that myself. Feel free to throw ideas my way.
[22:15] <sofastrangler> I'll make a finished thing which people here can pick and choose from and with like different paths and stuff like that.
[22:17] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that sounds great. :)
[22:17] <sofastrangler> But I won't pretend to be a professional marketing dude or marketing officanado. But I think I have some experience and knowledge that will come to use!
[22:17] <sofastrangler> One simple idea though
[22:18] <sofastrangler> Is the website update going to be scheduled to be released with the next LTS or .10 version?
[22:19] <Eickmeyer> Basically, as soon as possible. I'm waiting for the developer to feel as though the theme is ready, then he's going to upload it and the assets to a git repo. From there, we'll security check it, and then if it passes, release it. Just takes time with volunteers, you know. :)
[22:20] <sofastrangler> Oh, okay.
[22:21] <sofastrangler> I'm not saying you shouldn't go right away. But what I'd go for is working up a lot of changes and releasing it when there is a new LTS or similar, I know it is a long time and stuff.
[22:21] <sofastrangler> It kind of takes a lot of time to explain so I might wait until I've made the PDFs
[22:22] <Eickmeyer> Yeah. We've thought about that, but there were compelling reasons not to, such as the fact that the website has had the same theme for nearly the past decade.
[22:22] <sofastrangler> Yeah, heheh
[22:22] <sofastrangler> Maybe something to do next time
[22:22] <sofastrangler> then
[22:22] <sofastrangler> ;)
[22:23] <sofastrangler> I like this new theme and visuals a lot though
[22:26] <Eickmeyer> Same. I was super impressed when they approached us. Of course, I enlisted Eylul with the logistics and history on it since we went down a road similar to this before. But, we'll see what happens. Hopefully it will actually work this time.
[22:26] <Eickmeyer> If not, we have other ideas how to logistically pull it off.
[22:29] <sofastrangler> Looking at this I feel like my contribution is less needed honestly
[22:29] <Eickmeyer> I'd still love to see what ideas you have. :)
[22:31] <sofastrangler> Wha, are you only supporting the 18.04 for only 9 months or is that a typo?
[22:32] <sofastrangler> Yeah, seems so "This is the latest LTS-based regular release, which we (the Ubuntu Studio team) will be supporting until April 2021 with the Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA."
[22:32] <Eickmeyer> Which is why we have...
[22:32] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-backports
[22:33] <sofastrangler> Oh, so it isn't a typo? I'm confused
[22:33] <Eickmeyer>  18.04 was released as a non-LTS for a huge number of reasons, including the fact that I was the release manager and I had only been with the project for a month at that point. I, nor anybody else, felt comfortable with releasing it as an LTS considering it was identical to 16.04. But, with the addition of the backports PPA, we can continue to support it. The only thing is the .iso image will not change.
[22:33] <sofastrangler> Oh, I see
[22:34] <sofastrangler> Makes sense
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> One thing to always remember: Ubuntu Studio (and the other official flavors) /are/ Ubuntu, and not separate distributions. It's just what's included by default that's different.
[22:35] <OvenWerks> However the software in the repo will be supported for longer just because other flavours are.
[22:35] <sofastrangler> BTW, you could way wait with the website change until January when the 20.04 comes, then make it live as quickly as the Iso is out
[22:35] <Eickmeyer> 20.04 comes out in April.
[22:35] <OvenWerks> so rather than having a .1 .2 .3 .4, etc. release there is just the one and the first update may take a while
[22:36] <sofastrangler> Oh, dang
[22:36] <sofastrangler> But yeah, this will be good
[22:37] <Eickmeyer> When 20.04 comes out, 18.04 will be dropped from the website and users of 18.04 will be urged to upgrade.
[22:38] <sofastrangler> Cool
[22:38] <Eickmeyer> teward is going to be working on (if not already) reviving the official Ubuntu backports repo, so hopefully we'll be able to use that in the future.
[22:39] <sofastrangler> BTW, is there like "pictures of the program being used" that are needed? And would it be of interest to have them GIFed?
[22:40] <sofastrangler> (Specificly with graphics program)
[22:43] <Eickmeyer> Not sure. The static shots on the website definitely need to be updated, as do the ones in the .iso installer (something I intend to work on within the next week).
[22:45] <sofastrangler> Yeah, I was thinking of the website pictures. I see there are a lot of programs that kind of probably would want to be front more like "Krita rather than mypaint for example"
[22:46] <sofastrangler> which are missing too, but this is already known. Just hit me up if there is anything missing that you would want a optional contribution for.
[22:59] <Eickmeyer> Okay. Thanks!
[22:59]  * Eickmeyer goes afk
[23:23] <teward> *leaves lizards in Eickmeyer’s workspace*
[23:25] <Eickmeyer> teward: Joke's on you. I don't have a workspace. 
[23:25] <teward> lol.  Your pants then :P
[23:26] <teward> Backports is... a headache xD  There are a lot of policy changes that need to be applied with a Backports change, and I got a bit busy to drive backports currently, but soon I shall return and see where it stands.