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bray90820so on my dual monitor setup apps seem to open on the wrong monitor02:06
IcemanV9bray90820: it is possible you close the app on the wrong monitor; it will open there02:08
jilocasinevening everyone02:10
doug16kblows my mind how quickly people close IRC after asking a question02:11
doug16kthey must be paying a lot per minute for IRC access :P02:11
jilocasinI'm not sure if I should ask this here, or in the Java channel, so here goes: running 18.04LTS; how do I set a *manually* installed jdk to be the DEFAULT one?02:11
doug16kit's a shame that computers can only run one program at a time in 201902:11
jilocasindoug16K: perhaps they don't have all that much memory, or maybe they are using an IRC App on their phone.02:12
doug16khopefully they have a good reason to disconnect immediately. on phone wireless internet would be a legitimate reason I suppose02:14
OerHeks!java02:17
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.02:17
OerHekssudo update-alternatives --config java02:17
jilocasinOerJeks: nice thought, but no dice. :(02:21
pcworldDoes do-release-upgrade preview which packages will be removed/installed before going through with it?02:22
OerHeksjilocasin, should work, what is wrong?02:24
OerHekspcworld, no, i don't hink so02:25
pcworldhmm any way I can do it? I want to make sure it doesn't mess up my system too much02:25
pcworldlike in Debian, I could switch the sources.list and then do a dry run with apt02:25
OerHekswait, for a distro upgrade?02:26
pcworldyes02:26
OerHeksgrinn02:26
OerHeksmake a fresh usb with the iso, the do release upgrade and have fun02:26
pcworldwhat does running it from a live system change vs running it directly on the OS?02:27
jilocasinOerHeks:  Package openjdk-7-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source02:27
OerHeksopenjdk7 ?? man that is way old02:27
jilocasinOerHeks:  So I installed the latest 1.7 from tar.jz02:28
IcemanV9only 8 or 11 openjdk available02:28
jilocasinOerHeks:  Works fine, but I can't seem to get Ubuntu re recognize it as the DEFAULT jdk/jre02:28
OerHeksgood luck, not supported here, jilocasin02:28
IcemanV98 instead of 11 should be close enough to 7 ??02:29
jilocasinOerHeks: so how would you make _any_ manually installed jdk (regardless of version) the default one?02:29
OerHeksi am not going to find out why it is not in a %path%  or something, useless as it is EOL02:29
jilocasinOerHeks: unfortunately there is still plenty of code the requires it.02:31
OerHeksjilocasin, no there is no legal base for using openjdk7, certainly not outside the repos.02:37
OerHeksi hope that machine is not online02:37
lotuspsychjeoO02:41
jilocasinOerHeks: behind a couple of others, but yes, indirectly.02:42
abclovehello, how can i install ‘python usb’ and ‘libusb’?03:17
OerHeks!info python-usb03:17
ubottupython-usb (source: pyusb): USB interface for Python. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-1 (bionic), package size 36 kB, installed size 234 kB03:17
OerHeksit is in universe03:17
OerHeks!info libusb-1.003:18
abcloveOerHeks: it is preinstalled already?03:18
ubottulibusb-1.0-doc (source: libusb-1.0): documentation for userspace USB programming. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.21-2 (bionic), package size 165 kB, installed size 1454 kB03:18
OerHeksoptional, both03:18
abcloveoh how can i install it?03:18
abclovethen?03:18
OerHekssudo apt install <package>  or use synaptic, more detailed softwarecenter gui03:19
abclovelol i don’t know package name :(03:19
OerHeksi gave them, see ubottu03:20
OerHekshow hard can this be..03:20
Bray90820so my apps seem to be opening on the wrong monitor with my dual monitor setup03:55
pragmaticenigmaBray90820: So move the application to the window that you want to use them on? Most applications will either start on the monitor that current has the focus of the mouse; of if the application supports it, the application will re-open on the monitor it was last displayed on.04:06
OerHekshttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man1/devilspie.1.html04:07
Bray90820pragmaticenigma: that's now what's happening it seems like most of the time apps open on the secondary monitor whoch I don't really want because most of the time that monitor is off04:18
jilocasinbye all04:53
Kereshi05:37
Keresanyone arround?05:37
Keresi need some help running a command as a second user when logged in as my main user05:40
Keresi am trying to run 2 instances of a sound app that creates a config file05:40
Keresi need 2 different configs05:40
Keresi can run the second instance as root just fine, but i dont think that's kosher05:41
doug16kKeres, sudo -u usernamehere commandhere05:43
doug16kor to just get an interactive prompt, sudo -u usernamehere -i05:43
doug16koh, needs -H to set home dir05:43
Keresso sudo -u user2 -H ~/user2 command ?05:44
doug16kno no, just -H no ~/user205:44
doug16kit sets home dir to user2's home05:44
doug16ksudo -u user2 -H command05:45
doug16kyou may want to just spawn a shell as user2: sudo -u user2 -Hi05:46
KeresALSA lib seq_hw.c:466:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: Permission deniedsnd_seq_open() error -13: Permission denied05:46
Keresnow, if i su root, the app runs perfectly05:47
Keresand creates a different .ini file in the /root folder05:47
doug16kah, because user2 doesn't have permission to open the sound device, because it isn't user2's desktop05:47
Keresright05:47
Keresand this is all about sound devices and MIDI05:48
doug16kyou can try sudo chmod a+rw /dev/snd/seq05:48
doug16kthen run that again, should grant user2 permission05:48
Kereswell there's a ton of things that are 'Permission denied'05:49
Keresso just that device won't work05:49
KeresCan't initialize SDL video subsystem: No available video device05:50
Keresfor example05:50
Keresapp uses SDL205:50
doug16kall you want to do is change the home dir for some command?05:51
doug16kHOME=/somewhere/else somecommand05:51
doug16kand forget user205:52
doug16kor, if you want to do lots in a shell with a different home, just: HOME=/some/path bash05:53
doug16kexit to go back to normal05:54
doug16kprompt will look funny because bash won't do all the normal things that your real home's config says05:54
doug16k~ will be /some/path, `cd` by itself will go home, etc05:55
Keresnone of this is working05:55
Keresall have weird errors05:56
doug16kdon't ask XY question then, what are you trying to do?05:56
Kerestrying to run 2 copies of sunvox without crashing out of the submodules05:56
Keresif i edit a metamodule it has conflicts in the config and crashes05:57
Keresor submodule05:57
Keresessentially it allows you to store other songs as insturments, but it tracks your last "session" which... if you are using multiple copies it gets confused05:58
Keresthe author seems to think that all i have to do is make 2 folders with independent copies of the app05:59
Keresbut that's not working05:59
doug16koh this is a GUI program? good luck with running it as a different user05:59
Keresyeah, it's a GUI app06:00
Keresit work as root06:00
doug16kya because root kicks the door down when permission is questioned06:00
Kereswell thanks, i will take it up with the author06:01
ph88hello. i try to install Lubuntu but the live CD is not continueing to start in the synology VM .. what can i do ??08:38
guiverc2ph88, did you verify the ISO checksum?  (there is a check disc for defects option on the first menu that easily allows for this)08:49
ph88guiverc2 . i thought that was for the local harddisk08:58
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abdulhakeemSuppose I have a folder with a bunch of video files, and I want to extract the audio from all the video files and create audio files out of them. What's the best way to do that?10:00
Ben64depends on the file type10:01
abdulhakeemtheyre all mp4s and I want to extract mp3s ideally10:01
Ben64check out MP4Box10:05
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_Sean_anyone here good with Preseeds?  I'm an old rpm guy having to move to the dark side for a bit.  I've got a decent preseed that will go from start to finish for a fairly base install but am getting kicked now that i've moved over to building in full disk encryption - anyone have some working 18.04 examples that they might be willing to share?10:54
_Sean_i've gotten the installer to actually finish, prompts for encryption key, and completes but the drive isn't bootable - haven't dug into it yet, pretty much left it at that last night10:56
_KaszpiR__Sean_ something like:11:09
_KaszpiR_d-i partman-crypto/passphrase string my-preseed-luks-pass11:09
_KaszpiR_d-i partman-crypto/passphrase-again string my-preseed-luks-pass11:09
cluelesspersonI'm in the middle of configuring a new build environment11:10
_Sean_yeah, i think i might have broke the boundaries of available disk - hopefully that's all it is, will be a bit before i can dig into it11:20
_KaszpiR_yeah partitions + luks on debian/ubuntu is a bit panful11:29
BluesKajHowdy all11:49
jimtesting something... pardon my dust, won't be long11:51
jimthat's it... cheers11:52
_Sean_lol, well, i definitely broke the boundaries and I rewrote a grub install to /dev/sda at the very end - hopefully that clears it up12:02
_Sean_well, removed the silly grub install, that is12:04
lotuspsychje_Sean_: we hear good things about cubic12:06
_Sean_ahh nifty, iĺl have to check that out12:10
_Sean_server only, or also desktop/ubiquity/casper?12:11
lotuspsychje_Sean_: think its to edit any ubuntu iso12:11
lotuspsychje_Sean_: we dont officially support cubic though, so youre a bit on your own :p12:12
_Sean_well, i'm not using it so no worries there ;)12:12
_Sean_if it's just to edit the iso, i can do that without any flashy wrappers12:12
_Sean_and yeah, watching their marketing vid, it looks like all it does is add in pre-deploy pkg mgmts12:13
gebbionejust upgraded to 18.04 and displays are not detected. Trying to install the radeon drivers gives me ... The following packages have unmet dependencies. -> amdgpu-lib32 : Depends: mesa-amdgpu-vdpau-drivers:i386 (= 1:19.2.0-855429) -> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.>>>>> I installed mesa following http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/05/install-mesa-18-0-4-ubuntu-18-04-lts/ but I am12:13
gebbionestill stuck with the error12:13
gebbioneany idea?12:13
lotuspsychjegebbione: did you add external ppa's to your system?12:13
gebbioneyes, that article suggests to -> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/updates12:14
lotuspsychjegebbione: we dont support the add of external ppa's, did amdgpu not load from stock ubuntu?12:14
gebbionenot sure how to correctly answer that, ie the driver is incorrect after install. but also i dont see additional drivers if I look at Software and Updates12:15
_Sean_also, and out of curiosity - why mention a tool if it's not supported (@cubic) --12:16
elkc1fhi12:16
elkc1fi'd like to have my own option when i right-click12:16
elkc1fhow do i do this? (desktop/gui directory)12:16
lotuspsychje_Sean_: because some packages are handy, just widen your options/choice12:16
gebbionelotuspsychje, any ideas on how to fix that dependency problem?12:21
_Sean_huzzah - luks and a reboot, one problem down, 30 to go12:24
_Sean_and sry, not I gebbione -- i'd just pull out a big hammer - i was never a .deb guy in my day -- but that mesa depend seems to not be the same as the mesa you likely got from your link.  if i had to wager a plan of attack - get rid of all (radeon/mesa) and start over using a guide that follows standard repos -- or from vendor specific, depending on what you need/want12:25
clover4Hey, just tried to run Ubuntu. First time I booted from the USB, it got stuck at three dots. Rebooted, and it did something completely different. Got a bunch of errors on the console after the 5 dots. What's going on? https://imgur.com/a/bLUi0Bg12:32
clover4I made the usb like: dd if=ubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M && sync12:34
Chunkyzif an app is installed with snap, where is the config file for the said app located?12:37
clover4Well, I don't know guys. My Thinkpad has a security chip in the bios that I set to "Disabled". Restarted again, and Ubuntu got stuck at the "keyboard = human" picture. Rebooted again, and I got a much nicer looking screen asking if I want to try or install Ubuntu. Selected try, and it worked. Pretty strange I booted the USB 4 times and got 4 different results. I guess it was the security chip?12:42
clover4Does the live Ubuntu not come with zfs? I want to make sure I can access my other hard drive before I overwrite my old Linux install12:45
clover4How can I install zfs or get a live Ubuntu with zfs?12:45
clover4I can't even do sudo su12:46
clover4Or sudo apt-cache bla bla12:46
clover4I think I need to connec to Wi-fi12:46
clover4Wow, try to click "Wi-fi settings" and I get "Sorry, Ubuntu 18.04 has experienced an internal error..."12:48
clover4I though this distro was like the most jank-free Linux distro12:48
lotuspsychjeclover4: easy on the enter button please12:49
clover4Click details and it says "ExecutablePath /usr/bin/gnome-calendar" Not sure what that has to do with Wi-fi12:49
clover4lotuspsychje OK sorry12:50
lotuspsychjeclover4: IO errors sound like harddisk damaged sectors12:50
clover4Hey, sorry. Disconnected. My internet sucks right now12:55
clover4I thought loop0 is the USB drive. Is it my hard drive with errors?12:55
clover4And why is the live Ubuntu trying to read my hard drive? It should be reading the USB12:55
lotuspsychjeclover4: whatever is going on IO is mostly a bad sign..12:58
lotuspsychjeclover4: how did you create your iso?12:58
clover4I said that already12:59
lotuspsychjeah dd right12:59
clover4I think I'm going to run a HD check and then use Arch12:59
clover4I remembered the last time I used Ubuntu like 8 years ago it was a PITA to upgrade to a new version. I think I want rolling release anyway13:00
* _Sean_ blinks13:00
lotuspsychjeclover4: ive installed ubuntu on tons of pc's...if you get errors like this could be hardware related13:00
clover4Well, like I said, I'm going to run a hard disk check. I think I saw the Ubuntu installer has one, so I will try that first13:01
lotuspsychjeclover4: ok good luck13:01
clover4My laptop is really old too. Installing Linux always seems to go better on desktops13:02
clover4But can you answer why live Ubuntu would fail if I have a bad hard drive? It doesn't make sense. It shouldn't touch my hard drive13:03
lotuspsychjeclover4: if your laptop is old, try lubuntu or xubuntu to compare13:04
clover4Man, now I have a different install menu when I run the USB. Like I said, it's a prettier one, but it doesn't have all the options of the text one, including the hard disk check. When I set the security chip in my BIOS to Disabled, it started showing a new menu. wtf13:05
lotuspsychjeclover4: the ubuntu usb stick trys to load things on hardware..if hardware is half broke, the ubuntu setup will also act weird13:05
clover4What does it try to load?13:05
clover4How do I get the text menu back?13:05
lotuspsychjeclover4: F1 to textboot13:05
clover4OK13:06
lotuspsychjeclover4: you can also try a !nomodeset13:06
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | clover413:06
ubottuclover4: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:06
clover4F1 worked13:07
clover4Now I'm going to try "Check disc for defects"13:07
lotuspsychjeclover4: what kind of specs does your system have exactly?13:07
clover4Er, wtf. I guess "Check disc for defects" means check the USB13:07
clover4"Check finished: no errors found"13:07
lotuspsychjeclover4: plz dont swear in the support channel13:08
clover4OK sorry13:08
clover4Well, I mentioned my laptop is a Thinkpad W520. You can look up the specs13:08
lotuspsychjeclover4: every model has different types13:09
clover4What do you want to know specifically? I can tell you13:10
lotuspsychjeyes please13:10
clover4?13:10
lotuspsychjethe exact type13:10
lotuspsychjeclover4: on lenovo's its also very reccomended to update bios to latest too13:11
clover4Are you sure there is more than one type of Thinkpad W520?13:11
clover4I'm trying to look up the specs online and the results I get suggest there is only one13:12
clover4Oh, nvm. I see more13:12
clover4Doing a memory test atm13:13
clover4Man, this baloney is going to take a while I guess13:15
clover4While I'm waiting, I have a question about Ubuntu. Do Ubuntu versions cap software in the repo at various versions? Is an upgrade of Ubuntu required to use new software, or is the capping only limited to thinks like the Ubuntu desktop environment, etc.?13:20
clover4I was thinking if I decide to use Ubuntu, can I use it for a long time without upgrading, and still update all my other software?13:21
lotuspsychje!latest | clover413:21
ubottuclover4: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.13:21
clover4OK, so the versions of everything in the repo are capped unless there is a security fix13:22
clover4Definitely don't want that13:22
lotuspsychjeclover4: it depends how you choose to use ubuntu, you can also choose for non-lts, aka more latest13:23
clover4Yeah, I think I want rolling release. Upgrading Ubuntu never went smoothly for me in the past13:23
lotuspsychjeclover4: non-lts versions have higher/newer package versions but support for 9months13:23
lotuspsychjeclover4: LTS supports for 5y + 5y esm13:23
clover4I want to believe Ubuntu has improved significantly in 8 years13:23
lotuspsychjeclover4: you could discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss if you like13:24
BluesKajclover4, ubuntu isn't classified as a rolling release13:35
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Keresgood morning13:40
Keresi need help creating a launcher13:40
Keresanyone good with shell commands?13:40
EriC^^!details | Keres13:40
ubottuKeres: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.13:40
Keresi need to run a graphical music app13:41
Keresas a second user13:41
Keresso i can run 2 copies with seperate home/userx/.config/app/config.ini13:42
Keresi can do it with a shell by logging in as user213:42
Keresand using the sudo command to run the app13:42
Keresi thought the launcher would be something like sudo -u user2 -H "sudo /home/user2/app"13:43
Keresbut apperantly not13:44
Keresso what should the shell command say to contain logging in as user2 and running the app with sudo command?13:45
InnerUbuntuhow can I change the default session (Xrog → Wayland) from Terminal? What's the gdm config file?14:01
clover4Does the Ubuntu iso no longer contain the Disk Utility as per https://askubuntu.com/questions/317241/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-diagnose-hard-drive-or-ram-problems-in-windows14:01
clover4I searched "Disk Utility" and got no results14:02
clover4Nevermind. It is just called "Disks" now14:02
clover4My disk only has one "failed in the past" for "airflow temperature"14:05
ioriaInnerUbuntu,  /etc/gdm3/custom.conf14:07
KeresSorry guys, Xubuntu power mgmt bug14:08
Keresanyone see my prior question?14:08
clover4None of my sectors have been reallocated14:09
lotuspsychjeKeres: if its been a while, please re-ask your question all-in-one-line14:09
InnerUbuntuaaand what's the Ubuntu Dock config file?14:09
ioriaInnerUbuntu, you mean the Launche bar ?14:10
Keresi need the proper launcher command for this: sudo -u user2 -H "sudo /home/user2/application"14:10
Kereslog in as user2 and launch the app with sudo14:11
InnerUbuntuioria I'm referring to the vertical bar at the left of my screen (I'm on ubuntu 19.04))14:11
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ioriaInnerUbuntu, not sure, but it's part of the shell... no config filef (maybe some .css file )14:12
InnerUbuntuioria Okk I thought so :c ty14:13
ioriaok14:13
InnerUbuntuOk, how can I know which package 'ubuntu-bug' is part of?14:18
ioriadpkg -S /usr/bin/ubuntu-bug14:19
clover4How can I run zfs off the Live USB?14:19
InnerUbuntuioria it returns "apport: /usr/bin/ubuntu-bug", unfortunately if I try to remove it using apt, it says "Unable to locate package"14:20
ioriaInnerUbuntu, apt -s remove apport14:21
InnerUbuntuohhh what an idiot14:21
InnerUbuntuthanks14:21
ioriaok14:21
InnerUbuntuLast question: how would I tweak the "Connectivity Checking" value (Gnome Settings > Privacy) from the terminal? I've tried using $ gsettings list-keys org.gnome.desktop.privacy but it just doesn't appear there14:24
ioriaclover4, https://www.coolgeeks101.com/howto/infrastructure/zfs-root-ubuntu-luks-encryption-usb-boot/14:25
ioriaInnerUbuntu, https://vitux.com/disable-connectivity-checking-on-ubuntu-for-public-wifi-captive-portals/14:27
InnerUbuntuReally I've been looking for it for a week, thank youuuuuu my savior14:29
iorialol14:29
lotuspsychje!cookie | ioria14:29
ubottuioria: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!14:29
iorialotuspsychje, ^_^14:30
alexandrdvorkinhi how is everyone14:34
alexandrdvorkinI am able to but the UBUNTU on MacBook but keyboard and mouse not working14:35
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: what kind of mouse14:37
alexandrdvorkinthe MacBook  keyboard and mouse14:38
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: wich ubuntu release are you on?14:38
alexandrdvorkin18.04.3-desktop-amd6414:38
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alexandrdvorkinubuntu installed on usb flash drive14:40
alexandrdvorkinMacbook 201714:41
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: mouse is apple magic mouse, or a touchpad?14:41
alexandrdvorkintouchpad built in14:41
alexandrdvorkinthe native MacBook built in touchpad14:42
lotuspsychjeok14:42
alexandrdvorkinneither MacBook native keyboard or mouse respond14:43
alexandrdvorkincorrection touchpad14:43
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: is your system up to date to latest?14:43
alexandrdvorkinthe MacBook running Mojave14:43
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: i mean up to date with ubuntu14:44
lotuspsychjealexandrdvorkin: did you install ubuntu or you still in the lie or setup?14:45
lotuspsychje*live14:45
alexandrdvorkini installed the ubuntu on the Flashdrive USB connected via USB-C to MacBook never tried any update14:45
alexandrdvorkini am not sure how to skip the GUI ubuntu login so that i can use console and do the update14:46
alexandrdvorkinbecause in GUI i can not do anything14:46
catbeardif you bought a macbook, why install ubuntu?14:47
alexandrdvorkinwanted to try curious14:48
catbeardseems like an expensive lesson14:48
lotuspsychjecatbeard: we dont judge here, if the user wants ubuntu..14:48
catbeardlotuspsychje: wasn't judging, just saying there's cheaper things to put ubuntu on14:48
ioriaalexandrdvorkin,    https://github.com/cb22/macbook12-spi-driver   : but you need an external keyboard14:48
catbeardor did you mean you wanted to try ubuntu on mac specifically14:49
alexandrdvorkinon Mac14:50
catbeardbtw, honest review, i used to LOVE ubuntu, though since latest release, the support for grid-style workspaces went away, and that was really the main draw, and now Windows 10 does it, though even if it didn't, there's VirtuaWin to "get it back"14:51
catbeardcan't have more than 4, or at least there's no control panel to set it to more14:51
catbeardi'm used to working with 4x4 grid14:51
lotuspsychjecatbeard: try dconf-editor14:52
lotuspsychjecatbeard: alot of tweaks for 'workspaces'14:52
catbeardright but i'm saying the control panel support for it (which previously existed iirc) went away14:52
catbeardkinda killed productivity14:53
lotuspsychjecatbeard: open a bug wishlist and ill affect it too, i kind of miss that on my dock too14:53
lotuspsychjecatbeard: maybe there's a gnome extension out there, but i dont really like those14:54
catbeardi mean i know how to manually set it, but if i'm trying to sell  mom on ubuntu i can't have her calling me 3 times a day talking about "open Terminal, type sudo dconf-editor, type your password.. (IT'S NOT SHOWING UP) it's not supposed to ma"14:55
catbeardlike you and i know what's going on and why, but mom god bless her soul14:56
clover4How do I use zfs on the live version of Ubuntu?14:56
lotuspsychjecatbeard: dont you like super+ pgup/pgdown to switch workspaces?14:56
catbeardlotuspsychje: for me it was Ctrl+Alt+Shift+arrow to drag a window up/down/left/right to a unused workspace, Ctrl+Alt+arrow to move over screens14:58
catbeardjust wish there was a hotkey to "label" the window14:59
lotuspsychjecatbeard: gnome-tweak-tool has also workspace options, but also no dock icon15:00
catbeardso i could type like a ticket id and have it show when i move to the screen15:00
lotuspsychjecatbeard: use ubuntu-bug packagename from terminal plz15:00
lotuspsychjecatbeard: after you created the bug, i will affect it too15:01
catbeardor workspace real-estate options for like setting automatic alpha layer transparency if you drag a window from another workspace into your primary workspace15:01
clover4Got zfs working15:17
clover4Checked my ram. Checked my HD. Updated my BIOS. I'm just going to try installing Ubuntu now.15:18
lotuspsychje+1 clover415:19
clover4I hope I get the option to use full disk encryption in the normal installer15:19
clover4Oh yay. I did15:20
FreeBDSMhello15:22
FreeBDSM`man kill` tells me that there's -L or --table option to list signals as a table, but invoking it results into `kill: unknown signal: SIGL   kill: type kill -l for a list of signals` or `kill: unknown signal: SIG-TABLE   kill: type kill -l for a list of signals`15:23
FreeBDSMwhy is that?15:23
rapidwaveWhere is the default oracle_home? I installed WebLogic server and instructions say to use config script under ORACLE_HOME15:23
clover4I can't say acronyms that contain a curse word, but dudes named "FreeBSDM" can just roll up in here. lol15:23
clover4I see Ubuntu is getting that Amazon money15:24
FreeBDSMwhich?15:24
clover4Maybe you forgot the dash15:25
clover4Why don't you use -l like it says15:25
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FreeBDSM-l and -L are different options15:25
clover4OK. Well it said SIGL. Seems like you forgot the dash15:26
FreeBDSMnope15:26
clover4Well I'm installing Ubuntu so I can't check myself. Sorry15:26
FreeBDSMjust learned that kill is a shell built-in, so it's more a #zsh question15:26
clover4Huh? What does it have to do with zsh?15:27
FreeBDSMI use zsh15:31
FreeBDSMand it turns out that zsh introduced shell built-in kill, so I'm reading man page for an external `kill` util, but then invoking zsh's kill :/15:32
clover4Oh15:32
clover4You can use which kill15:32
clover4I don't know where kill is on Ubuntu, I guess maybe /usr/bin. You could run it directly15:33
hggdhFreeBDSM: you can also run 'env kill'15:35
FreeBDSMhggdh: what will that do?15:36
FreeBDSMI just learned about 'command kill'15:37
hggdhFreeBDSM: will run the binary 'kill' as opposed to the shell's15:37
sdkfzlightHi, I'm using Zorin OS, and I'm unable to open the NVIDIA X Server Settings app, it just opens up to a blank screen with no options. I am attempting to access this app due to the fact that my laptop is using my built in video card instead of my NVIDIA GTX 1060, resulting in significant performance loss. Any help is appreciated, thanks.15:39
FreeBDSMhggdh: TIL env does something more than just echo env vars15:39
Chunkyzsdkfzlight, ask zorin's irc/forum. this is #ubuntu for ubuntu's OS's.15:40
clover4What is livepatch15:40
clover4Do you recommend it?15:40
clover4The explanation is very vague15:40
sdkfzlightZorin is based on Ubuntu, I have the same problem15:40
gebbioneany suggestions on how to fix this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c7MCpsqCf9/16:02
lotuspsychjegebbione: first ppapurge your external ppa's to get out of dependency issues16:05
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | gebbione16:05
ubottugebbione: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html16:05
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lalitmeeHey Guys, I am on Linux Mint and I am trying to enable my Nvidia driver but not able to do it16:17
lotuspsychje!mint | lalitmee16:17
ubottulalitmee: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)16:18
lalitmeewhen I do this `sudo lshw -c display` it gives me this https://termbin.com/k5l516:18
lotuspsychjewe can only support ubuntu & official derivatives lalitmee sorry16:18
lalitmeelotuspsychje: Actually I think you guys can help me with this16:18
lalitmeelotuspsychje: oh then no problem16:18
sdkfzlightlalitmee I have the exact same problem16:18
lotuspsychjelalitmee: if you install ubuntu, we can16:18
sdkfzlightthese meanies won't help me16:19
sdkfzlightZorin is based off ubuntu16:19
sdkfzlightHi, I'm using Zorin OS, and I'm unable to open the NVIDIA X Server Settings app, it just opens up to a blank screen with no options. I am attempting to access this app due to the fact that my laptop is using my built in video card instead of my NVIDIA GTX 1060, resulting in significant performance loss. Any help is appreciated, thanks.16:19
lotuspsychjesdkfzlight: please dont..16:19
lalitmeesdkfzlight: Hey No man.. these guys are good16:19
lalitmeebut the thing is you are not on the system what they know16:19
tomreynyou guys can try in ##linux. or install ubuntu16:19
lalitmeetomreyn: no problem. we will try16:19
sdkfzlightim off to dual install ubuntu16:20
ioriasdkfzlight, probably due to an old version of nvidia-settings16:33
sdkfzlightioria i reinstalled it tho16:33
ioriasdkfzlight, ok, but what's the version ?16:34
sdkfzlightioria 418.56-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.116:34
sdkfzlightioria according to the integrated software inistaller that came with the OS16:35
cognitionHi, what is better VMware host managed vmtools or vmtools from apt?16:35
ioriasdkfzlight, apt-cache policy nvidia-settings  | nc termbin.com 999916:35
sdkfzlightUploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/c7c2150419cff515a5bffbc55d2c8f12/pasted.txt16:37
sdkfzlightioria16:37
Chunkyzhmmm16:37
sdkfzlightioria nvidia-settings:  Installed: 418.56-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1  Candidate: 418.56-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1  Version table: *** 418.56-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1 500        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/zorinos/drivers/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status     390.77-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 500        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu b16:37
sdkfzlightionic-updates/main amd64 Packages     390.42-0ubuntu1 500        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages16:37
Chunkyz"sdkfzlight, ask zorin's irc/forum. this is #ubuntu for ubuntu's OS's."16:38
sdkfzlightzorin's irc has 3 active members16:39
Chunkyzand? not our problem...16:39
sdkfzlighti dunno ioria seemed to be willing to help16:40
ioriasdkfzlight,  if you installed nvidia 430 , then  the nvidia-settings 430.34-0ubuntu1 should be available; i just suggest to purge nvidia and try again from  the ~graphics-drivers .16:41
ioriathe ppa, i mean16:42
sdkfzlightioria yeah i'm running 430, i'll try that thanks16:42
ioriabut Chunkyz is right, i have no idea what '//ppa.launchpad.net/zorinos/drivers/ubuntu' is or provides16:43
FreeBDSMexternal kill is broken (well, or its manpage): manpage says that `kill -l 11` should translate number 11 into a signal name. It fails. Turns out the error occurs because of the space after `-l`. `/bin/kill -l11` works fine.17:16
windowstile4x4hey guys, what do you recommend to have a 4x4 windows tile in Ubuntu?17:25
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EoflaOEwindowstile4x4: What version of Ubuntu are you running?17:44
windowstile4x4EoflaOE: 19 (gnome)17:44
EoflaOEwindowstile4x4: I assume it's 19.04, right?17:45
windowstile4x4EoflaOE: ct17:46
windowstile4x4EoflaOE: correct17:46
EoflaOEwindowstile4x4: This GNOME extension might help: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/28/gtile/17:47
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windowstile4x4EoflaOE: okay, thanks!17:49
EoflaOEwindowstile4x4: You are welcome.17:50
windowstile4x4works wonders EoflaOE thanks again!17:57
EoflaOEFreeBSDM: Can you make a bug report about kill manpage?17:59
WiseMonkHello. I was trying to compile this programm and I get this error: "Could NOT find ZLIB (missing: ZLIB_LIBRARY ZLIB_INCLUDE_DIR)".  I couldnt find a working solution online. what can i do?18:10
WiseMonkI have zlib1g-dev already installed on my system18:10
WiseMonk(trying to compile this programm: https://github.com/gp-alex/world-of-might-and-magic) *18:10
WiseMonkerror was from cmake18:11
SpeConhello everyone: Any idea why ubuntu sometimes ( mostly ) crashes the applications that i want to open ? For example Hexchat to connect here on irc mostly just crash when i start it up. Also for other apps like calculator and many more. First time that i have this with ubuntu ( i'm using the new version 18.04)18:17
EoflaOEWiseMonk: Pastebin the output of this command: "pkg-config zlib --libs"18:17
ioriai bet it wants the 32bit ver18:18
EriC^^SpeCon: try starting them from a terminal to see any errors, also type "dmesg -T" in a terminal and look for errors18:23
mousesSpeCon: Bad CPU.  Bad Memory.  Failing hardware.  Corrupt install.  tons of possible things18:23
SpeConokay18:27
WiseMonkEoflaOE, the output is "-lz"18:38
gebbionei thought i had removed them from software and updates but i still see them from egrep -v '^#|^ *$' /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*18:41
EoflaOEWiseMonk: Something is wrong then.18:41
WiseMonkwith my ubuntu or with this programm?18:44
EoflaOEWiseMonk: This program is not up to date with the current version. Will you notify the maintainers so they update it with fixes?18:46
WiseMonkI dont know what to tell them, I dont see where the problem is18:47
WiseMonkwill you? and what exactly is wrong with -lz?18:50
EoflaOEWiseMonk: I will contact them. Meanwhile, while the link is done, you may bookmark it.18:58
EoflaOEBy the way which Ubuntu version are you running?18:58
ioriaWiseMonk,   try  to set the path for zlib :   cmake -DZLIB_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/     -DZLIB_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/imlib2/loaders/19:02
gebbionewhy do i still see lots of ppas in my /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d even if i removed them using software and tools19:02
WiseMonkEoflaOE Xubuntu 18.1019:03
EoflaOEWiseMonk: Bug link is ready: https://github.com/gp-alex/world-of-might-and-magic/issues/68 Make sure to bookmark it while they're trying to fix it.19:03
lotuspsychjegebbione: did you purge them with ppapurge?19:03
lotuspsychjeWiseMonk: 18.10 is end of life19:04
ioriaWiseMonk,   18.10 is dead19:04
gebbionei tried with some of them but cannot figure how to do it,  ie sudo ppa-purge http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian -> sudo ppa-purge http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA:19:05
EoflaOEAlso, like lotuspsychje and ioria said, 18.10 is EOL so upgrade so we can continue helping.19:05
gebbionei tried with some of them but cannot figure how to do it,  ie sudo ppa-purge http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian -> sudo ppa-purge http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA:19:05
lotuspsychjegebbione: it needs to be in the ppa format, not the url19:05
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | gebbione19:05
ubottugebbione: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:05
gebbionehow do i get the repository-name19:06
gebbionefor instance if i grep for them i see /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teamviewer.list.distUpgrade:deb http://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable main19:07
lotuspsychjegebbione: when you add a ppa, the website/tutorial should mention that19:07
gebbionewhat is the name there19:07
gebbionethe tutorial says sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa19:09
gebbionebut i dont have any names like that19:09
gebbioneit is either the url or some other info19:09
lotuspsychjegebbione: those names usually show in the maintainers website19:09
EriC^^gebbione: https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool19:10
WiseMonkioria, I dont have a /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/imlib2/ folde on my Ubuntu19:13
lotuspsychjeWiseMonk: please install a supported version of ubuntu from the topic19:13
gebbioneEriC^^,  that only shows $ ./ppa-tool.sh -l19:13
gebbioneCurrently active ppas19:13
gebbione[1] [trusted=yes] file:/var/opt/amdgpu-pro-local/ ./19:13
EriC^^gebbione: you have to re-enable it to purge it19:14
gebbionei have removed them from software and tools19:14
EriC^^try "./ppa-tool.sh -la" is it listed?19:14
WiseMonkend of life already?19:14
WiseMonkits not yet october19:15
gebbione-la shows more thank you19:15
ioriaWiseMonk,     cmake -DZLIB_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/     -DZLIB_LIBRARY=/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/19:16
EriC^^gebbione: go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and remove the "#" in the file there to re-enable it19:16
EriC^^or you might have to rename .list.save to .list19:16
gebbionestill not sure on what their name is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cm2w947FHX/19:16
EriC^^gebbione: looks like it's pretty deleted, try "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa && sudo apt-get update"19:17
EriC^^gebbione: then try "sudo ./ppa-tool.sh -r" and select it for removal19:18
gebbionethat worked so it looks like none of the ppas are enabled19:20
gebbionebut i cannot really purge them19:20
gebbionethat takes me back at my original question on how to fix https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c7MCpsqCf9/19:20
EriC^^gebbione: yeah, they have to be enabled to purge them cause the list of packages needs to be known to calculate what to remove and what to replace etc19:21
gebbioneand lotuspsychje suggested i had to purge them to fix the error19:21
ioria!info amdgpu-lib19:21
ubottuPackage amdgpu-lib does not exist in bionic19:21
ioriagebbione, they are still there19:21
ioriagebbione, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu-lib19:22
gebbione:/ i m lost19:22
EriC^^gebbione: try "apt-cache policy amdgpu-lib" and paste19:22
ioriagebbione, you probably disabled/removed the ppa but not purged the pkgs19:23
gebbionehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PDwCn2KdVB/19:23
gebbionemaybe but i usually do apt-get update or distro update19:24
gebbioneor autoremove19:24
ioriagebbione, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu-lib19:24
gebbioneioria, that shows no output other than the php error19:25
gebbionebut that is another problem19:25
ioriaah19:25
EriC^^gebbione: seems the candidate is the right version, you'll have to try "sudo apt-get install amdgpu-lib" to see why it's not installing19:25
gebbioneok with that command i get asked to add a lot of packages19:25
gebbionelike 200+ Mgs19:26
lotuspsychjeEriC^^ ioria his original apt: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c7MCpsqCf9/19:26
ioriait's amdgpu-pro19:26
EriC^^gebbione: paste the output? or maybe press Y and see what happens?19:26
ioriagebbione, can't you unistall it ?19:26
gebbionei upgraded ubuntu to 18.04 and my dual display setup does not work, driven not installed for radeon 5770 so i was trying to install its drivers from the AMD site19:27
gebbionethat is where i get the package errros19:27
gebbionei can try to remove them19:28
ioria amdgpu-pro-uninstall19:28
gebbionesudo apt-get install amdgpu-pro is running now19:29
Prest0ohi, any problem with ubuntu repertoires¿? cant download some of them19:29
WiseMonkNo, I had mistaken, I have Xubuntu 19.04, it obviously had upgraded without me noticing it, lol xD19:29
lotuspsychjePrest0o: can you pastebin your apt output plz?19:29
Prest0oi am using the visual interface installer19:29
Prest0ojust returns a 40419:29
WiseMonkioria, cmake -DZLIB_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/     -DZLIB_LIBRARY=/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ .. , give following error: Could NOT find ZLIB (missing: ZLIB_LIBRARY) (found version "1.2.11")19:29
lotuspsychjePrest0o: details matter for the volunteers to be able to help19:30
Prest0ocan i paste a screenshoot ?19:30
lotuspsychjesure19:30
ioriaWiseMonk,     cmake -DZLIB_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/     -DZLIB_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu19:31
WiseMonkyeah, same error19:31
WiseMonkCould NOT find ZLIB (missing: ZLIB_LIBRARY) (found version "1.2.11")      ---- so is 1.2.11 too new, or why so?19:32
ioriaWiseMonk,  try to install the 32bit version  of zlib1g-dev19:34
WiseMonkI got a libz.so.1.2.11 in the respective folder, and a libz.so which is a symbolic link to it19:34
WiseMonkok19:34
WiseMonkstill same error, I now even change the command to "cmake -DZLIB_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/     -DZLIB_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ .." but still same19:38
ioriaWiseMonk,  and without that ?19:39
ioriaWiseMonk, just cmake19:39
Prest0ohttps://imgur.com/mD9laCd19:39
Prest0ohere it goes, sorry for the time it took me to do it, i have it on a diferent computer and was a bit of a paint to screenshot it, i just made an analog picture19:40
WiseMonkthen I get back the old error Could NOT find ZLIB (missing: ZLIB_LIBRARY ZLIB_INCLUDE_DIR)19:40
EoflaOEPrestOo: Have you done "sudo apt update"?19:41
Prest0ono19:41
Prest0olets try19:41
Prest0oit worked...19:43
Prest0opretty incredible, since i downloaded the distro yesterday,19:43
Prest0othanks19:45
EoflaOEYou are welcome PrestOo. By the way you should run it everytime you install packages, to update caches.19:46
gebbionehi folks, after installing the amdgpu-pro the pc is stuck at Starting Update UTMP about System Runlevel Changes ...19:47
gebbionectrl + shift + F1 does nothing19:47
gebbioneany suggestions19:48
EoflaOEgebbione: Try ctrl+alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+f319:49
Prest0oi am trying to success into sharing a linux folder over the network, but... still even after install samba and run shares-admin i still get an errro saying samba is not installed, in fact when i run system-config-samba it says i dont have permission to execture blalba... https://i.imgur.com/HGmA6yk.jpg19:50
gebbioneEoflaOE,  thanks, got a prompt. Now i am trying to remove that package19:51
EoflaOEgebbione: You are welcome.19:51
EoflaOEPrestOo: Try it with sudo19:52
Prest0osame error, tried it19:52
Prest0owell not same error19:53
Prest0obut similar19:53
EoflaOEPrestOo: And the output?19:53
Prest0oi am on it 1 sec19:53
Prest0oi.imgur.com/toMDazx.png19:54
EoflaOEPrestOo: That means you don't have /etc/libuser.conf19:56
Prest0ono idea how to download/install it19:57
EoflaOEPrestOo: Can you try this command "sudo touch /etc/libuser.conf" and run the tool again?19:58
Prest0ono result19:59
Prest0odoes nothing19:59
Prest0oi mean, nothing, i just returns nothing and let you "write again"19:59
Prest0ooh wait, not sudo system-config-samba works20:00
Prest0onow*20:00
EoflaOEPrestOo: Glad you got it working. Any problems?20:01
Prest0olets see if i success to see some windows folder from the windows machine, 1 sec20:01
Prest0ooh big crap, linux freezed... maybe i touched the pendrive by mistake and disconected it, i dont know, damn, need to do it all again20:02
gebbioneEriC^^, any ideas https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g7F66vz3dH/ ?20:04
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Prest0odont seems i success20:11
Prest0oi.imgur.com/q1VG9O2.png20:11
Prest0oif someone understand whats wrong...20:11
JohnDoe2I have xubuntu 19.04 installed as the only OS and it won't let me get in to grub menu. I messed up my password at setup so I need to change it. tried shift key, esc, c, space bar, nothing works20:14
gebbione$ sudo ppa-purge nutznboltz/ubuntu20:14
gebbioneUpdating packages lists20:14
gebbioneE: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/nutznboltz/cappy-getlibs-all/ubuntu oneiric Release' does not have a Release file.20:14
mysticwhere to put my unzipped tar file so that it create sa shortcut in my app drawer?20:16
Bashing-omgebbione: nutznboltz has not seen any attention since 2011-05-20. Remove the source. http://ppa.launchpad.net/nutznboltz/cappy-getlibs-all/ubuntu/dists/20:16
gebbioneso ppa-purge will not work in this case?20:17
gebbioneshould i go to sources.d and rm -f it ?20:18
Bashing-omgebbione: Nope .. there is nothing to revert back to from that PPA.20:18
mysticunzipped tar files wont make app drawer shortcuts.. how to make one?20:18
Bashing-omgebbione: Should not have to (F)orce it .20:18
gebbioneBashing-om, ok so i guess removing it will not fix this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c7MCpsqCf9/20:19
Prest0oomg its working20:19
gebbioneI am just trying to get the AMD radeon video drivers installed :/20:19
EoflaOEPrestOo: Nice.20:19
Prest0opretty cool, next step.. the printer20:20
EoflaOEgebbione: Can you go to Softwares and Updates, and remove that PPA from there?20:20
Bashing-omgebbione: Nope .. will have no effect on the AMD driver .. // How do you know that your card supports the AMD proprietary overlay ?20:20
gebbionei tried with lots of them but i still get those errors20:20
gebbioneBashing-om,  i just checked the model and i downloaded the drivers20:21
gebbioneand i was trying to install them20:21
gebbioneshould i not install the pro version?20:21
gebbionei get the same error with ./amdgpu-install20:22
JohnDoe2screw it I'll just install over it20:22
Bashing-omgebbione: "Phoronix has done several articles that show the Radeon driver plus the MESA package actually perform BETTER than AMDGPU/PRO in almost all the cases that most people will be interested in.20:23
Bashing-omUnless you are doing scientific computing or specific games, AMDGPU at present may not do you any good."20:23
gebbioneok so what do i do to get my second screen working20:23
Bashing-omgebbione: No experience thewre to advise :(20:23
gebbioneas upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 broke the dual screen setup20:23
gebbioneanyone with 18.04 and two monitors that can suggest how to fix the detection of the two monitors?20:27
gebbioneany suggestions on how to fix this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BY28RpjWVM/20:58
gebbionei have removed all PPAs btw20:58
EriC^^gebbione: you want to install amdgpu?21:23
akemlenovo_I got a Ubuntu 18.04 machine up since 30 days or so, and i noticed when i get back to the desktop the applications loaded since a long time(IDLEING) are not so responsives when trying to use them again, I got 8 GB of RAM used at 85% and 2GB swap used at 62%, but there is little applications running, just like hexchat and qbittorent with a bunch of gnome terminal in the background...21:23
EriC^^whats the initial problem you had? gebbione21:23
EriC^^akemlenovo_: probably some memory leak21:24
dazzisdeadhey21:24
gebbionetwo screens are installed, they are mirroring on 18.04 and cannot see the option to configure it under settings -> devices -> Screen Display21:24
EriC^^akemlenovo_: try ps aux | sort -k 421:24
gebbioneon 16.04 i had no problems21:24
EriC^^gebbione: same here display stuff disappeared for me a while ago, 16.04 here on amd graphics21:25
akemlenovo_EriC^^, I don't think so, i've been told it's normal Linux memory usage to use up the free memory as cache etc when no other applications requires it.21:25
EriC^^gebbione: it's probably something to do with xorg i guess21:25
gebbionei had no problems on 16.0421:25
gebbioneEriC^^, have you tried anything to fix it?21:26
EriC^^akemlenovo_: well, it depends what you meant by 'used' but you did mention lagginess and swap being used so yeah21:26
onomatopieGoodbye gebbione21:26
ChiLLabiSAlot of stuff stopped working since that 5.0.0-25 kernel21:26
EriC^^gebbione: not really, i use xrandr to set the resolution instead now21:27
akemlenovo_EriC^^, yeah it's laggy and swap is used: https://termbin.com/kj4b21:29
EriC^^memory usage doesnt look too bad21:30
gebbioneEriC^^, so you have two monitors and just see them mirrored? dont you want to use them in extended mode? or can xrandr do the configuration ?21:30
EriC^^akemlenovo_: is it doing it right now?21:30
EriC^^gebbione: nope single monitor here21:30
gebbione:/21:31
EriC^^gebbione: hold on21:31
fradIm editing a video. I don't need to change its quality, fps', I only want to get rid of 30 seconds at the beginning and 40 at the end of the mkv file. I have tried openshot and flowblade. No matter what profile I choose to save, the size of the resulting file is much bigger than the original file (a 20 factor). How do I simply cut, without changing any other property of the original file?21:31
EriC^^gebbione: what does 'dpkg - | grep control-center' give you?21:32
EriC^^gebbione: it's working for me now, i ran sudo apt-get install unity-control-center21:32
akemlenovo_EriC^^, not really, but when i first came back to the machine it did. Also i closed firefox etc.21:32
EriC^^gebbione: nice21:32
gebbioneunity-control-center is already the newest version (15.04.0+18.04.20180216-0ubuntu1).21:33
EriC^^gebbione: try running 'unity-control-center' from a terminal21:33
akemlenovo_I'd like to disable that sort of optimisation memory management when IDLEING.21:33
akemlenovo_Maybe some kernel options for that, i don't know.21:34
EriC^^i dont see how it could be the problem tbh21:34
gebbioneEriC^^, unity-control-center doesnt help me configure the displays21:34
EriC^^gebbione: it still says cant get display info?21:36
gebbioneEriC^^, this is all i get ... i dont get the option to configure two monitors https://imagebin.ca/v/4tYdrhNFU2VS21:40
gebbionebut i do have two monitors and they are currently displaying the same thing21:40
akemlenovo_EriC^^, i've heard Ubuntu is doing some background magic with free RAM to somehow predict what i may do / cache things / whatsoever, things like that; and that it is normal that it would use almost all RAM at some point, it should free some memory automaticly when needed when i start an application for ex. That's this behavior i would like to disable maybe with some kernel option?21:41
devslash2is there  a way to change the monitor which the login screen appears on ?21:43
devslash2it always appears on monitor 2 and I want it to show up on monitor 121:43
gebbionedevslash2, i wish i could get my two monitors to work first :/21:44
akemlenovo_devslash2, Maybe try to reverse monitor order in gnome-control-center.21:45
devslash2i tried running gnome-control-center from terminal and it got a sigalert21:46
devslash2so thats not going to work21:46
EriC^^akemlenovo_: yeah but i mean it shouldnt cause stuff to get slower i think, whenever you open ff itll just use the cached space for that, i mean i also have the same stuff but it never ever lags for me21:46
devslash2oh nm its because it doesnt work as root apparently21:46
EriC^^akemlenovo_: i think something else is going on21:46
EriC^^akemlenovo_: anyways, here's a way to restrict caching, in case it helps https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/253816/restrict-size-of-buffer-cache-in-linux21:47
EriC^^akemlenovo_: you could also adjust swappiness for performance https://linuxhint.com/understanding_vm_swappiness/21:49
EriC^^gebbione: does gsettings list-recursively | grep -E "mirror|display"  give anything related?21:50
gebbioneEriC^^, i cannot see anything but i pasted it here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2VJhwt4Y8r/21:52
EriC^^hmm dont see any21:53
gebbioneis it possible it is currently using the wrong VGA drivers?21:54
EriC^^gebbione: try "sudo lshw -c video"21:55
EriC^^gebbione: also 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log'21:55
gebbionehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bqYFNCJD3d/21:58
akemlenovo_EriC^^, i tried echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches to see if it clears up but apparently it doesn't change anything, any idea?21:59
EriC^^gebbione: this is the possible culprit "nomodeset"22:01
akemlenovo_https://pastebin.com/vMfC9Jau i would like to drop everything, and see real RAM usage from what is actually running.22:01
EriC^^gebbione: what happens when you try to boot normally an not in recovery mode22:01
akemlenovo_It can't be using 7 GB RAM for real.22:02
devslash2ubuntu sucks. I dont get why I have to disconnect my 2nd monitor in order to get the fcking ubuntu login to appear on my primary monitor22:02
akemlenovo_especially since it is running fluxbox wm and the largest application running is qbittorent(via wine).22:03
gebbioneEriC^^, i had problems i think with hibernation or other problems ... then i added the nomdeset but i have not changed grub settings when moving from 16.04 to 18.0422:03
EriC^^akemlenovo_: it says 1gb is available only, and 268mb is cached only22:03
EriC^^(roughly)22:03
gebbionedevslash2, switch ports22:03
devslash2what do you mean22:04
EriC^^akemlenovo_: what does ps aux | sort -k 4 give currently?22:04
devslash2what port22:04
EriC^^gebbione: it says you booted in recovery mode22:04
gebbionei did a dpkg package fix to see if it would get rid of the dependencies problem i had when installing the amdgpu=pro driver22:05
akemlenovo_EriC^^, my conky memory log says the biggest memory usage is qbittorent with 7.5% of the RAM being used so i don't see what is using all that RAM :/22:07
akemlenovo_EriC^^, https://termbin.com/nk7d22:07
gebbione$ dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'22:07
gebbione[    5.639766] [drm] VGACON disable radeon kernel modesetting.22:07
gebbione[    5.639789] [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module!22:07
gebbione:/22:07
allegoricalhi trying to install lubuntu on a laptop from usb and it's failing at the step "detect and mount cd-rom" any ideas?22:08
akemlenovo_EriC^^, maybe i have some memory leak you think? i already had one in the past i had to patch my wifi driver to fix it with the help of TJ-.22:09
akemlenovo_But it was growing very fast, and would even freeze the computer at some point.22:10
allegoricalhmm guess i should try google first22:12
akemlenovo_allegorical, does your laptop have a CD drive?22:13
allegoricala dvd drive i believe22:13
akemlenovo_Check there is no DVD inside?22:13
allegoricalyeah did that :)22:14
EriC^^allegorical: i'd start by doing a checksum on the iso22:14
allegoricallooking at https://askubuntu.com/questions/671159/bootable-usb-needs-cd-rom now22:14
akemlenovo_EriC^^, I think you are right, i must have another memory leak :(22:17
allegoricali'm seeing "mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /cdrom" in a few places, will try something, thanks22:17
EriC^^gebbione: what happens when you try to boot normally, without nomodeset or recovery option22:17
gebbionei think i need to modify grub to see with nomodeset off22:18
gebbionenormally i just get the single screen duplicated right now with restricted configuration options in ubuntu ux22:18
gebbionei was going through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver22:18
gebbioneand wondering if this means anything22:19
gebbione$ dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon'22:19
gebbione[    5.639766] [drm] VGACON disable radeon kernel modesetting.22:19
gebbione[    5.639789] [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module!22:19
Bashing-omgebbione: As you can see in the link .. your card takes the radeon driver .. amdgpu-pro is not supported.22:21
gebbionei guess i still need to get it working correctly somehow as it is not working well now22:22
Bashing-omgebbione: As a start what results ' amdgpu-pro-uninstall ' ?22:23
Bray90820is ther a way to switch dispay setting from the menubar?22:24
Bray90820Or maybe add a shell script from the menubar22:25
gebbioneBashing-om,  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C7mKfsTtPk/22:25
gebbioneamdgpu-pro was not installed anyway22:27
Bashing-omgebbione: Looks positive :) .. what now ' sudo apt purge amdgpu* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' Make sure here the package manager is in a happy state.22:27
gebbionea bunch of "unable to locate" messages but nothing else happened22:30
gebbioneit didnt fix the problem still so i guess i need to find how to get it right22:31
Bashing-omgebbione: Reboot then ,, see if you come up now on the radeon driver, or if we got to work it.22:31
gebbionebrb22:32
gebbionedisplay still unknonw22:36
gebbioneknown22:37
gebbioneunknown22:37
Bashing-omgebbione: Per ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?22:37
gebbioneBashing-om, same as the top of https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bqYFNCJD3d/22:38
Bashing-omgebbione: ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-radeon  ' show that the module is available ?22:42
gebbionehttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qt6kJqK32g/22:43
gebbionedoes it say it needs a reinstall ?22:43
DOSfanI .. am .. back :)22:45
mysticwb22:45
Bashing-omgebbione: nope the leading 'ii' says is all installed .. what shows ' cat /proc/cmdline ' ?22:45
gebbioneBOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-58-generic root=UUID=315979a7-13a8-49cf-bd7a-616f29ad8c79 ro acpi=force nomodeset22:46
DOSfanHi mystic ... running Ubuntu 16.04 here ... on a SSD22:46
mysticmust be fast.  ubuntu 18.04 here on ssd22:46
DOSfanshowing at 1900x1200?22:46
DOSfanerrr or is it 1920 :\22:47
Bashing-omgebbione: ,, OK .. "nomodeset" defeats Kernel Mode Setting - remove that parameter and try and boot again :)22:47
DOSfanI run duel display with Ubuntu 16.04 , one 50 inco running 1920x1080 and the second is an awsome HP 22 inch HPw2207 (awsome cause of the elevating/tilt stand).22:49
gebbioneok just edited grub settings22:49
gebbionebrb22:49
DOSfanmystic: oh .. that last message was for you .. yes I have to admit running of SSD is a huge difference .. this exact ubunto OS install was done to a 500GB hard disk .. so I cloned it to a 256GB Patriot SSD ...22:50
DOSfanmystic: what a huuuuuge speed and total "useability" difference.22:51
gebbioneBashing-om, thanks ... that fixed it22:54
gebbionenow i am wondering how you make one of the monitors the primary one22:54
Bashing-omgebbione: Great ! - Glad it worked out.22:55
gebbioneie like devslash2 asked ... i see the bars in one monitor but I would rather get them either repeated or on the other monitor22:55
Bashing-omgebbione: That be in the GUI settings "somewhere" .. I do not use so can not advise the "where" .22:55
gebbioneohh it is there23:00
gebbionegreat23:00
gebbionedevslash2, not sure it helps but just go to Devices -> Screen Display -> Primary Display and select where you want the login to come up23:00
mysticyea, dosfan.. the boot times are so fast23:04
samuraiauk23:29
samuraieuk23:29
allegoricalhmm, so the install seems to be complete however i can't seem to launch the GUI desktop, just stuck in the terminal23:38
allegoricalfun times23:39
Prest0ohttps://i.imgur.com/rD1defH.png23:39
Prest0owitch you think looks better?23:40
Prest0oabout antialias i mean23:42
doug16kubuntu won't go 75Hz refresh rate, even though I set it to "74.97 Hz" in display settings. other monitor is 60Hz23:52
emOnethere really needs to be an option to debianify the terminal in ubuntu23:53
emOnedebian colours are so much nicer23:53
doug16kopened http://glslsandbox.com/e#56307.0 in chrome, F12 to open js debugger, in debugger, pull down ... menu thing at top right, rendering, check "show fps", says 6023:53
doug16ktf2 won't go 75 either, even though I beat it over the head with -refresh 75 -refreshrate 75 -freq 75 launch command line23:54
doug16kcl_showfps 2 shows 6023:54
doug16knvidia closed source driver 4 43023:55
doug16ks/4 //23:55
doug16kit's really a 75Hz monitor, not overclock nonsense23:56
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doug16k-> https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27MP59G-P-gaming-monitor#none23:57

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