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didrockshello05:31
dufluMorning didrocks05:57
didrockshey duflu06:00
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marcustomlinsongood morning didrocks and duflu07:52
dufluHi marcustomlinson07:52
didrockshey marcustomlinson07:55
Laneymorning08:02
didrocksgood morning Laney08:04
Laneyhey didrocks08:04
Laneyhow's it going?08:05
marcustomlinsonmorning Laney08:06
Laneywb marcustomlinson08:06
Laneygood time off?08:06
marcustomlinsonthanks :) Yeah it was08:06
marcustomlinsonnothing too fancy, just some family time, exploring edges of the city I haven't08:07
willcookemorning all08:08
marcustomlinsonhey willcooke08:11
didrockshey willcooke08:13
* Laney nods willcooke 08:15
LaneyTrevinho: tracker> probably, but the answer depends what is in it / if it impacts things which depend on it / how risky it is08:21
LaneyWimpress: why did that fix it :(08:25
Wimpressikr08:26
Wimpressconfused.com08:26
WimpressMorning o/08:26
LaneyColin would probably know best if you cared to bother him08:27
Laneyand someone said Kylin had the same problem - did you notify them by any chance?08:27
Laneyhi :>08:27
Laneyalso, not just why did that fix it, but what changed to break it?08:27
Laneyalso why the F did the ubuntu daily iso fail to build08:27
Laneyrenamed 'chroot/var/lib/snapd/seed/gnome-calculator_406.snap' -> 'chroot/var/lib/snapd/seed/snaps/gnome-calculator_406.snap'08:27
Laneyerror: cannot validate seed:08:28
Laney- cannot use snap "gnome-calculator": default provider "gtk-common-themes" is missing08:28
Laney- cannot use snap "gnome-calculator": default provider "gtk-common-themes" is missing08:28
Laney- cannot use snap "gnome-calculator": default provider "gtk-common-themes" is missing08:28
TrevinhoHaloa!08:48
TrevinhoLaney: hey ok per tracker, I'll do some further testing, but IMHO better now than next cycle08:49
* Laney shrugs08:50
didrockshey Trevinho08:50
Laneyit's like i said08:50
Laneyhi Trevinho08:50
dufluMorning Laney, Wimpress, Trevinho08:58
Trevinhohi didrocks and duflu08:58
Laneymvo: hey, got a sec? want to chat about https://launchpadlibrarian.net/439916827/buildlog_ubuntu_eoan_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz09:07
Laneythis is because of that code you added that validates the seed is valid after every snap is seeded, isn't it?09:07
Laneydid you beef up the validator in the new snapd or something?09:08
Laney(also, sorry, hi - how rude of me)09:08
clobranohey all 0/09:16
dufluHi clobrano09:20
clobranohi duflu09:20
Laneymorning duflu clobrano09:20
dufluLaney, (no rush, I don't want to stress you but) could you please help to triage bug 1841915 ?09:21
ubot5bug 1841915 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "black screen, unresponsive, after logout from gnome Wayland session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184191509:21
dufluSome time09:21
clobranoabout https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/issues/1477, we discussed and made some proposals for a fix09:22
clobranomine are in this PR https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/1478, but there's also one from Frederik here https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/issues/1477#issuecomment-52681176909:22
gitbotubuntu issue 1477 in yaru "The headerbar buttons lack of contrast compared to the background" [Design, Open]09:22
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 1478 in yaru "ubuntu-colors: Lighten headerbar up" [Open]09:22
gitbotubuntu issue 1477 in yaru "The headerbar buttons lack of contrast compared to the background" [Design, Open]09:22
Laneyduflu: maybe later, am trying to unbreak ISO image builds now09:23
dufluNo problem09:23
dufluNot even today is fine09:24
clobranoanyone that finds current headerbar buttons hard to spot, please have a look :)09:24
Laneyif you think this is caused by the systemd --user stuff, you can get them to turn GDM's verbosity up and attach a journal09:24
dufluSome of them stand out too much IMHO. But you will never please everyone at the same time09:24
LaneyI did see that bug though, and I can log out OK here on Wayland09:24
* duflu tries that09:25
mvoLaney: I had/have a bunch of meetings, we can talk in ~30min maybe?09:38
Laneymvo: sure, just ping me09:38
clobranoduflu: all the buttons have the same design, but I guess that the bigger ones (text-buttons) might be indeed more visible due to the size. Pictures might be misleading though, if possible would be great to testing on a real machine :)09:48
* duflu looks again09:48
dufluclobrano, yeah mostly was my imagination. And a little bit is the inconsistency with the window buttons (minimize, maximize, close)09:50
dufluBut maybe that's a good thing09:50
clobranoduflu: indeed, those buttons kept the same flat design. Not sure what's better in this regard. I saw that upstream has them flat as well, so I thought it was fine09:52
clobranoduflu: thanks for the feedback btw :)09:52
dufluAnother part of my confusion was that it doesn't register with my brain that the disabled buttons are disabled. They just look flat and still enabled09:53
dufluI don't think they are disabled /enough/09:54
clobranoduflu: any example to look at? Few applications have buttons on headerbar and I couldn't find one with disabled buttons09:54
dufluAt least when viewed at around 100% sRGB09:54
dufluclobrano, Files (nautilus) window freshly opened09:54
clobranoduflu: ah the arrows09:55
dufluThey look enabled and flat09:55
* clobrano thinkering something09:56
dufluBut I could easily be in the minority and change my opinion by tomorrow09:56
clobranoduflu: do you think it's because of the borders?09:56
Laneymvo: was thinking something like https://paste.debian.net/1098377/ (untested)09:56
dufluYes both the borders and the arrows themselves are not sufficiently different colour09:56
Laneybecause otherwise the option seems to be to write a dependency solver :(09:57
dufluclobrano, what if you made disabled buttons the same colour as the borders?09:57
dufluThe icons, not the fill09:57
clobranoI see09:58
dufluThat way we avoid introducing 3D but it's more obvious what's not clickable10:01
mvoLaney: I had a bit of back and forth about this with the cpc team, they suggested this approach, I don't mind how its done but AIUI some plugins may add stuff after snap_preseed10:03
mvoLaney: sry for the trouble :/10:03
Laneymvo: that's why I went for this opt out approach, the other callsites will still do validation10:04
Laneymaybe I should go take it up with cpc people then10:05
clobranoduflu: uhm, not sure it helps, a similar design is for active/toggled buttons10:10
dufluI forgot about those10:10
mvoLaney: yeah, I don't know enough about the subtleties  unfortunately to give good feedback on live-build (except that I find it hard to reason about it ;)10:12
Laney:) ok10:16
clobranoduflu: but, without/reducing border and transparentize label might be the solution10:16
dufluclobrano, actually yes. No or a light border would suggest the button is immovable10:17
willcookeclobrano, hey!  Sorry for the delay on that github thread, I was off on Friday.  Have commented now10:18
clobranoduflu: I agree, something like this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oOFUauOd/image.png10:18
dufluclobrano, yes!10:19
dufluMorning willcooke10:19
clobranohi willcooke, thanks!10:20
willcookehi duflu10:22
willcookenp clobrano10:22
dufluclobrano, I changed my mind. Lack of border is also inconsistent10:36
dufluBut again feel free to ignore me. I need to start thinking about dinner10:36
clobranoduflu: okay, let's pause then :)10:47
* duflu notices 18.04 handles disabled colours nicely, not counting all the stylistic differences10:48
tkamppeterI am trying to post a merge proposal for NM on Launchpad and if I fill "network-manager:master" as target branch it does not get accepted. What do I have to enter as target branch?15:32
Laneyisn't it ubuntu/master?15:33
tkamppeterTried it now and it does not work, too.15:34
tkamppeterI tried also origin/HEAD now and also does not work.15:34
tkamppeterThe repo I want to merge is https://code.launchpad.net/~till-kamppeter/network-manager/+git/network-manager  and the repo I want to merge into is https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+code?15:36
LaneyI went to https://code.launchpad.net/~till-kamppeter/network-manager/+git/network-manager/+ref/master/+register-merge, typed 'master' into the box and it created https://code.launchpad.net/~till-kamppeter/network-manager/+git/network-manager/+merge/37215715:38
Laneythat looks right doesn't it?15:38
Laneythe repository you're targetting isn't the right one: that is the git-ubuntu one that we aren't using here15:38
tkamppeterLaney, thank you very much.16:02
Laneytkamppeter: going to delete that one I made, you can follow the same steps16:04
Laneyso that it doesn't have my name on it ...16:04
tkamppeterNow it worked for me, https://code.launchpad.net/~till-kamppeter/network-manager/+git/network-manager/+merge/37216216:07
tkamppeterThank you very much.16:07
TrevinhoLaney: would you have time to update sysprof to sysprof3? Or want me to do it? Since mutter doesn't support sysprof 3.32 anymore and having the ability to install the daemon (that should be system-wide) from repos would be nice :P16:40
LaneyTrevinho: you can do it, but it's not a desktop priority since the package needs splitting into a library / -dev package / application before things can be linked with it16:43
Trevinhomh, I see16:43
Trevinhowill see to do it in some free time16:43
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Laneyokies16:46
LaneyI planned to do that split at some point16:46
Laneybut there were more important things so far16:46
willcookenight all17:22

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