[10:59] <brainwash> xubuntu-desktop pulls in light-locker and xfce4-screensaver
[10:59] <brainwash> xubuntu-desktop^ does not
[11:01] <brainwash> xfce4-session depends on..
[11:01] <brainwash>  |Recommends: light-locker
[11:01] <brainwash>  |Recommends: xfce4-screensaver
[11:01] <brainwash>   Recommends: xscreensaver
[11:04] <brainwash> xfce4-session (4.12.1-6ubuntu1) says:
[11:04] <brainwash> - Recommends no longer include xscreensaver (LP: #1754872)
[11:05] <brainwash> but now it's back in the 4.14 package?
[11:08] <bluesabre> that's certainly not ideal
[11:08] <brainwash> xfce4-screensaver | light-locker
[11:08] <brainwash> this is ideal, or?
[11:09] <brainwash> or maybe even no light-locker at all
[11:09] <brainwash> it's not supported anymore I think
[11:10] <bluesabre> pretty much... the only person that actually *gets* light-locker disappeared
[11:10] <brainwash> version 1.9 was released in april though
[11:11] <brainwash> by someone else
[11:12] <brainwash> but neither ubuntu nor debian have it
[12:38] <ochosi> bluesabre: someone from elementary has taken over (at least some) lightlocker maintenance
[12:39] <ochosi> i added him to the admins a month ago or two
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[17:49] <Unit193> brainwash: That and other things are why I always recommend the task and not the meta, since there's other "decisions" it does wrong as well.  Also, xflock has support for light-locker, so I'd leave it.  Personally I'd list everything xflock has support for.
[18:35] <brainwash> Unit193: why was xscreensaver readded? can light-locker be put at the end?
[18:35] <brainwash> those are the questions
[18:37] <brainwash> also, how to spread the info that xubuntu-desktop should be installed as task?
[18:39] <brainwash> it's not very likely that we can add a warning message to apt
[22:27] <bluesabre> brainwash: probably the thing to do would be adding it to the docs, and then point anybody that direction any time the question comes up again... apt isn't smart, and installing the task is simply the right use case in that case.