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didrocksgood morning06:17
jibelsalut didrocks06:22
didrockssalut jibel06:23
dufluMorning didrocks and jibel06:25
didrockshey duflu06:27
jibelhi duflu06:28
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willcookemorning all07:50
willcookeanyone got any ideas for a service which will allow me to build a poll for the wallpaper comp?  The polls built in to Discourse don't scale and limit each poll to 20 entries or thereabouts.  There are > 100 wallpaper entries07:57
Laneymoin08:02
willcookehi Laney08:02
didrockshey willcooke08:03
didrockshey Laney08:04
willcookemorning didrocks, how goes?08:04
didrockswillcooke: apart from google form + API, I don't have any strong idea08:04
didrockswillcooke: I'm fine, thanks, you?08:04
Laneyhi willcooke hi didrocks08:04
willcookedidrocks, I'll take another look at Forms08:04
jibelpaid version of surveymonkey08:06
dufluMorning willcooke and Laney08:17
willcookeafternoon duflu08:17
Laneyoops09:00
Laneyduf TAB :(09:00
Laneyanyone in touch with kylin?09:03
Laneyhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/440066548/buildlog_ubuntu_eoan_amd64_ubuntukylin_BUILDING.txt.gz think they need to seed a theme09:03
Laneyah, handsome_feng is here ^^^^09:04
darkxstmy latest gjs upload is failing autopkgtests on arm64, but I don't have access to any arm64 to investigate further09:21
handsome_fengLaney: Thanks, So just seeds gtk-common-themems will fix this build failed?09:25
Laneyshould do09:26
handsome_fengLaney: Then I will do it now, thanks for your info, :)09:27
Laneysnap:gtk-common-themes, see the ubuntu seeds for how we do it there09:27
handsome_fengLaney: Got it!09:28
Laney๐Ÿ‘09:28
willcookeWOW!!  164 entries for the wallpaper comp this cycle!09:37
didrocksnice09:38
marcustomlinsonCrazy09:38
willcookedidrocks, Google forms work out pretty well.  I need to look at the API next time though.  It's taken me 40 mins to populate the answers09:39
didrockswillcooke: 40 min doesn't sound too bad09:40
willcookecopy and pasting for 40 mins solid is verrrry boring :)09:42
didrocksheh, good music is needed :p09:46
Laneysounds like managerial life09:49
Laneydarkxst: can try to get a backtrace if you want?09:54
darkxstLaney, that would be good if you can, logs are not showing anything around the failed test09:56
Laneywell it does show a sigsegv09:56
Laneyso lets see09:56
willcookedesktoppers:  can you test please:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSciJiNFt-cnSOlt_mSIIwQUl8RNslg-3cdu1uUsqgbqERIb4Q/viewform09:57
willcookeI will reset the answers before it is generally announced09:57
Laneyare you planning to open it to the general public?09:58
Laneyand is this every entry or did you pre filter?09:59
Laneyform seemed to work from my side fwiw10:00
willcookeLaney, yeah, general public.  No filtering10:12
darkxstLaney, I meant nothing useful in logs10:26
Laneydarkxst: it just passed for me10:56
Laneymaybe retry?10:56
Laneywillcooke: interesting, guess we'll see how that goes :-)10:57
darkxstLaney, thanks, have kicked off a retry11:03
Laneydarkxst: worked11:18
* Laney was spying on the logs11:18
darkxstLaney, cool, guess you have many super powers ;)11:29
RikMillshi. does vlc start in ubuntu daily?11:33
Laneywfm11:40
RikMillsLP: #184238211:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 1842382 in vlc (Ubuntu) "vlc won't start; eoan 19.10 lubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu daily" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184238211:45
RikMillswonder why it is just flavour dailies then :/11:50
RikMillsLaney: did you test the current or the 20190903 build?11:52
Laneyno I tried from my system11:52
Laneydo you mean a live session?11:52
RikMillsyes, live cd. I'm updating an installed eoan now to see if the bug appears11:53
RAOF11911512:02
* Laney presses RAOF's yubikey12:03
willcooke:D12:05
LaneyRikMills: it is broken if I apt install it on an ubuntu iso too12:13
Laneybut I don't think I'm going to have time to look into it, sorry12:13
Laneythe guy on the bug is barking up the wrong tree with that /lib thing though, that's just becaue we have usrmerge12:13
Laneywell, unless vlc is doing some weird introspection .........12:14
RikMillsLaney: thanks. I forgot about usrmerge. it just worked on the installed system I updated, so at the moment seems vlc doesn't like something about recent live sessions12:15
Laneyopenat(AT_FDCWD, "/vlc/plugins/plugins.dat", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)12:21
Laneythat's missing the libdir prefix12:21
RikMillso_o12:23
Laneybet if you do sudo ln -s /usr/lib/*/vlc/ / it starts working12:24
* RikMills checks12:25
RikMillsLaney: yep, it does12:27
Laneyso I guess look at what vlc's doing to find that plugins.dat thing12:27
RikMillsLaney: thanks for that12:31
Laneyno problemo12:33
Trevinhohey, I won't be around for the meeting as I've a funeral to attend... I might be around at beginning but not all time13:13
ricotzLaney, I confirmed in the past that e.g. libreoffice is crashing running on daily iso live session after "apt upgrade", so it is definitely an live session issue13:27
ricotzthat was with a bionic daily iso13:27
kenvandineMeeting time!13:30
kenvandine#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-0313:30
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kenvandineRoll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out) , tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)13:30
marcustomlinsonhi13:30
didrockshey13:30
Laneymorning13:31
Laneyricotz: what is "it"?13:31
Trevinho(hi)13:31
ricotzLaney, "that the upgrading packages in a live session get borked"13:32
kenvandineLet's get started13:32
kenvandine#topic rls-ee-bugs13:32
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:32
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kenvandinebug 166203113:33
ubot5bug 1662031 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Switching language and format broken" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166203113:33
kenvandinelooks like oSoMoN had at least looked at a similar bug a while back13:33
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1842256 ?13:34
ubot5Launchpad bug 1842256 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "~/.pam_environment overridden by /etc/default/locale" [High,New]13:34
kenvandinewhoops, yet which is linked to the old bug i linked :)13:35
Laneysounds like one to take to me13:35
kenvandineok13:35
kenvandineyeah, i'm thinking we assign it to oSoMoN13:36
didrocks+1 and he isn't there to say no :p13:36
kenvandinedone13:37
kenvandinebug 184192913:38
ubot5bug 1841929 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Volume up/down repeat keys don't work on Xorg" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184192913:38
kenvandinei think we should take that too13:38
Laneykenvandine: you need to target to series to make it come up on -tracking (as well as deleting the tag)13:38
Laneydon't understand why this bug is so important, seems quite minor to me13:39
Laneybut no strong opinion13:39
marcustomlinsonI guess is didrocks wants to take it...13:39
marcustomlinson*if13:39
didrocksI don't think I will have to have a look TBH13:39
didrocksbut it's a regression, we shouldn't really accept regressions IMHO13:40
kenvandineI suspect lots of people will experience it13:40
didrocksit makes using the vol+/- unusable here (and was confirmed)13:40
kenvandinei almost never press that key and just release it13:40
Laneybut you can do ...13:40
* Laney shrugs13:40
kenvandineAnyone want to volunteer to take it?13:41
didrocksI think seb was talking about Trevinho knowing that part of the code13:42
didrocks(it's opened upstream btw, but didn't get feedback)13:42
kenvandinethat's what i was thinking13:42
Trevinhomh, I can have a look13:42
kenvandine:)13:42
kenvandineok13:42
kenvandinebug 184179413:44
ubot5bug 1841794 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in g_log_default_handler() ... from ObjectInstance::~ObjectInstance() [usually logging "Finalizing wrapper for an already freed object of type: Clutter.PropertyTransition"]" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184179413:44
kenvandinehas anyone here reproduced this?13:46
didrockssome dups, can be reproduced reliably with the Dock in autohide mode (so I bet upstream won't be really interested to look at it)13:46
kenvandinewe clearly need to take this13:47
Trevinhowell, I'm quite sure upsteream doesn't want anything crashing either13:48
Trevinhobut yeah, it's mine.13:48
kenvandineoik13:48
kenvandinebug 184171813:49
ubot5bug 1841718 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "[radeon] Rendering of combo boxes and tooltips is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184171813:49
kenvandinethis is probably not mutter or gtk13:51
kenvandineanyone think we should take the radeon bug?13:55
LaneyIf it's a driver problem it's for Timo probably.13:56
kenvandinedo you think i should  mark as invalid for mutter and gtk?13:56
kenvandinei think so13:56
marcustomlinsonyeah agree13:56
marcustomlinsonfrom the history it's likely xserver-xorg-video-ati again13:57
LaneyWould suggest nominating and assigning for the driver package too, otherwise it might get forgotten13:57
kenvandinebug 184191513:58
ubot5bug 1841915 in systemd (Ubuntu) "black screen, unresponsive, after logout from gnome Wayland session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184191513:58
kenvandineLaney: you've been commenting on that13:59
kenvandinewhat do you think?13:59
LaneyI think Wayland only bugs are not rls tracking material13:59
kenvandineok13:59
kenvandinethat's it for ee incoming14:00
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:00
kenvandinebug 1834671 isn't assigned14:01
ubot5bug 1834671 in firefox (Ubuntu Eoan) "TLSv1.3 client certificate authentication with renegotiation unsupported in browsers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183467114:01
kenvandineaffects chromium and firefox14:01
kenvandinei'll assign to oSoMoN14:01
kenvandinethe rest are assigned14:02
kenvandinemoving on14:02
kenvandine#topic rls-dd-bugs14:03
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kenvandinenothing incoming14:03
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:03
kenvandinebug 182888414:05
ubot5bug 1828884 in poppler-data (Ubuntu Disco) "[META] Handling Japanese new era "ไปคๅ’Œ (Reiwa)"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182888414:05
kenvandinethere's nobody assigned to the poppler tasks, which are the only ones not fixed14:05
kenvandineanyone know about this?14:06
marcustomlinsonseb I believe pokes at this each week14:06
marcustomlinsonI guess mean, no I don't know14:07
kenvandine:)14:07
kenvandineok, moving on14:07
kenvandine#topic rls-cc-bugs14:07
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kenvandinenothing incoming and tracking is fine14:07
marcustomlinsonwhat about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1833617?14:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 1833617 in linux (Ubuntu Eoan) "[amdgpu] screen freeze after suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:07
kenvandinefrom the comments it looks like it's being handled14:09
kenvandinethere is a test kernel14:09
marcustomlinsonah that was tracking ok14:09
kenvandine#topic rls-bb-bugs14:09
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kenvandinenothing incoming14:09
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:09
kenvandinetracking is a long list14:10
kenvandinethe poppler task is showing up there as well14:10
kenvandinethere is also bug 172790814:11
ubot5bug 1727908 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Software & Updates application does not permit changes on the "Other Software" tab" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172790814:11
* kenvandine assignes the bionic task to seb as well14:12
kenvandineI think that's it14:13
kenvandine#topic aob14:13
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kenvandinegoing once14:14
kenvandinegoing twice14:14
kenvandineThanks everyone!14:15
kenvandine#endmeeting14:15
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Sep  3 14:15:03 2019 UTC.14:15
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marcustomlinsonthanks14:15
didrocksthx!14:18
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willcookenight all17:37

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