[06:17] good morning [06:22] salut didrocks [06:23] salut jibel [06:25] Morning didrocks and jibel [06:27] hey duflu [06:28] hi duflu === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski [07:50] morning all [07:57] anyone got any ideas for a service which will allow me to build a poll for the wallpaper comp? The polls built in to Discourse don't scale and limit each poll to 20 entries or thereabouts. There are > 100 wallpaper entries [08:02] moin [08:02] hi Laney [08:03] hey willcooke [08:04] hey Laney [08:04] morning didrocks, how goes? [08:04] willcooke: apart from google form + API, I don't have any strong idea [08:04] willcooke: I'm fine, thanks, you? [08:04] hi willcooke hi didrocks [08:04] didrocks, I'll take another look at Forms [08:06] paid version of surveymonkey [08:17] Morning willcooke and Laney [08:17] afternoon duflu [09:00] oops [09:00] duf TAB :( [09:03] anyone in touch with kylin? [09:03] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/440066548/buildlog_ubuntu_eoan_amd64_ubuntukylin_BUILDING.txt.gz think they need to seed a theme [09:04] ah, handsome_feng is here ^^^^ [09:21] my latest gjs upload is failing autopkgtests on arm64, but I don't have access to any arm64 to investigate further [09:25] Laney: Thanks, So just seeds gtk-common-themems will fix this build failed? [09:26] should do [09:27] Laney: Then I will do it now, thanks for your info, :) [09:27] snap:gtk-common-themes, see the ubuntu seeds for how we do it there [09:28] Laney: Got it! [09:28] ๐Ÿ‘ [09:37] WOW!! 164 entries for the wallpaper comp this cycle! [09:38] nice [09:38] Crazy [09:39] didrocks, Google forms work out pretty well. I need to look at the API next time though. It's taken me 40 mins to populate the answers [09:40] willcooke: 40 min doesn't sound too bad [09:42] copy and pasting for 40 mins solid is verrrry boring :) [09:46] heh, good music is needed :p [09:49] sounds like managerial life [09:54] darkxst: can try to get a backtrace if you want? [09:56] Laney, that would be good if you can, logs are not showing anything around the failed test [09:56] well it does show a sigsegv [09:56] so lets see [09:57] desktoppers: can you test please: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSciJiNFt-cnSOlt_mSIIwQUl8RNslg-3cdu1uUsqgbqERIb4Q/viewform [09:57] I will reset the answers before it is generally announced [09:58] are you planning to open it to the general public? [09:59] and is this every entry or did you pre filter? [10:00] form seemed to work from my side fwiw [10:12] Laney, yeah, general public. No filtering [10:26] Laney, I meant nothing useful in logs [10:56] darkxst: it just passed for me [10:56] maybe retry? [10:57] willcooke: interesting, guess we'll see how that goes :-) [11:03] Laney, thanks, have kicked off a retry [11:18] darkxst: worked [11:18] * Laney was spying on the logs [11:29] Laney, cool, guess you have many super powers ;) [11:33] hi. does vlc start in ubuntu daily? [11:40] wfm [11:45] LP: #1842382 [11:45] Launchpad bug 1842382 in vlc (Ubuntu) "vlc won't start; eoan 19.10 lubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu daily" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842382 [11:50] wonder why it is just flavour dailies then :/ [11:52] Laney: did you test the current or the 20190903 build? [11:52] no I tried from my system [11:52] do you mean a live session? [11:53] yes, live cd. I'm updating an installed eoan now to see if the bug appears [12:02] 119115 [12:03] * Laney presses RAOF's yubikey [12:05] :D [12:13] RikMills: it is broken if I apt install it on an ubuntu iso too [12:13] but I don't think I'm going to have time to look into it, sorry [12:13] the guy on the bug is barking up the wrong tree with that /lib thing though, that's just becaue we have usrmerge [12:14] well, unless vlc is doing some weird introspection ......... [12:15] Laney: thanks. I forgot about usrmerge. it just worked on the installed system I updated, so at the moment seems vlc doesn't like something about recent live sessions [12:21] openat(AT_FDCWD, "/vlc/plugins/plugins.dat", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) [12:21] that's missing the libdir prefix [12:23] o_o [12:24] bet if you do sudo ln -s /usr/lib/*/vlc/ / it starts working [12:25] * RikMills checks [12:27] Laney: yep, it does [12:27] so I guess look at what vlc's doing to find that plugins.dat thing [12:31] Laney: thanks for that [12:33] no problemo [13:13] hey, I won't be around for the meeting as I've a funeral to attend... I might be around at beginning but not all time [13:27] Laney, I confirmed in the past that e.g. libreoffice is crashing running on daily iso live session after "apt upgrade", so it is definitely an live session issue [13:27] that was with a bionic daily iso [13:30] Meeting time! [13:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-03 [13:30] Meeting started Tue Sep 3 13:30:23 2019 UTC. The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [13:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-03 | Current topic: [13:30] Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out) , tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out) [13:30] hi [13:30] hey [13:31] morning [13:31] ricotz: what is "it"? [13:31] (hi) [13:32] Laney, "that the upgrading packages in a live session get borked" [13:32] Let's get started [13:32] #topic rls-ee-bugs [13:32] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-03 | Current topic: rls-ee-bugs [13:33] bug 1662031 [13:33] bug 1662031 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Switching language and format broken" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662031 [13:33] looks like oSoMoN had at least looked at a similar bug a while back [13:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1842256 ? [13:34] Launchpad bug 1842256 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "~/.pam_environment overridden by /etc/default/locale" [High,New] [13:35] whoops, yet which is linked to the old bug i linked :) [13:35] sounds like one to take to me [13:35] ok [13:36] yeah, i'm thinking we assign it to oSoMoN [13:36] +1 and he isn't there to say no :p [13:37] done [13:38] bug 1841929 [13:38] bug 1841929 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Volume up/down repeat keys don't work on Xorg" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841929 [13:38] i think we should take that too [13:38] kenvandine: you need to target to series to make it come up on -tracking (as well as deleting the tag) [13:39] don't understand why this bug is so important, seems quite minor to me [13:39] but no strong opinion [13:39] I guess is didrocks wants to take it... [13:39] *if [13:39] I don't think I will have to have a look TBH [13:40] but it's a regression, we shouldn't really accept regressions IMHO [13:40] I suspect lots of people will experience it [13:40] it makes using the vol+/- unusable here (and was confirmed) [13:40] i almost never press that key and just release it [13:40] but you can do ... [13:40] * Laney shrugs [13:41] Anyone want to volunteer to take it? [13:42] I think seb was talking about Trevinho knowing that part of the code [13:42] (it's opened upstream btw, but didn't get feedback) [13:42] that's what i was thinking [13:42] mh, I can have a look [13:42] :) [13:42] ok [13:44] bug 1841794 [13:44] bug 1841794 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in g_log_default_handler() ... from ObjectInstance::~ObjectInstance() [usually logging "Finalizing wrapper for an already freed object of type: Clutter.PropertyTransition"]" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841794 [13:46] has anyone here reproduced this? [13:46] some dups, can be reproduced reliably with the Dock in autohide mode (so I bet upstream won't be really interested to look at it) [13:47] we clearly need to take this [13:48] well, I'm quite sure upsteream doesn't want anything crashing either [13:48] but yeah, it's mine. [13:48] oik [13:49] bug 1841718 [13:49] bug 1841718 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "[radeon] Rendering of combo boxes and tooltips is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841718 [13:51] this is probably not mutter or gtk [13:55] anyone think we should take the radeon bug? [13:56] If it's a driver problem it's for Timo probably. [13:56] do you think i should mark as invalid for mutter and gtk? [13:56] i think so [13:56] yeah agree [13:57] from the history it's likely xserver-xorg-video-ati again [13:57] Would suggest nominating and assigning for the driver package too, otherwise it might get forgotten [13:58] bug 1841915 [13:58] bug 1841915 in systemd (Ubuntu) "black screen, unresponsive, after logout from gnome Wayland session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841915 [13:59] Laney: you've been commenting on that [13:59] what do you think? [13:59] I think Wayland only bugs are not rls tracking material [13:59] ok [14:00] that's it for ee incoming [14:00] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:01] bug 1834671 isn't assigned [14:01] bug 1834671 in firefox (Ubuntu Eoan) "TLSv1.3 client certificate authentication with renegotiation unsupported in browsers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834671 [14:01] affects chromium and firefox [14:01] i'll assign to oSoMoN [14:02] the rest are assigned [14:02] moving on [14:03] #topic rls-dd-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-03 | Current topic: rls-dd-bugs [14:03] nothing incoming [14:03] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:05] bug 1828884 [14:05] bug 1828884 in poppler-data (Ubuntu Disco) "[META] Handling Japanese new era "ไปคๅ’Œ (Reiwa)"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1828884 [14:05] there's nobody assigned to the poppler tasks, which are the only ones not fixed [14:06] anyone know about this? [14:06] seb I believe pokes at this each week [14:07] I guess mean, no I don't know [14:07] :) [14:07] ok, moving on [14:07] #topic rls-cc-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-03 | Current topic: rls-cc-bugs [14:07] nothing incoming and tracking is fine [14:07] what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1833617? [14:07] Launchpad bug 1833617 in linux (Ubuntu Eoan) "[amdgpu] screen freeze after suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:09] from the comments it looks like it's being handled [14:09] there is a test kernel [14:09] ah that was tracking ok [14:09] #topic rls-bb-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-03 | Current topic: rls-bb-bugs [14:09] nothing incoming [14:09] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html [14:10] tracking is a long list [14:10] the poppler task is showing up there as well [14:11] there is also bug 1727908 [14:11] bug 1727908 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Software & Updates application does not permit changes on the "Other Software" tab" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727908 [14:12] * kenvandine assignes the bionic task to seb as well [14:13] I think that's it [14:13] #topic aob === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-03 | Current topic: aob [14:14] going once [14:14] going twice [14:15] Thanks everyone! [14:15] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/uEut6bfN/ubuntu-desktop-1910-cycle [14:15] Meeting ended Tue Sep 3 14:15:03 2019 UTC. [14:15] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-09-03-13.30.moin.txt [14:15] thanks [14:18] thx! === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk [17:37] night all