[06:17] <didrocks> good morning
[06:22] <jibel> salut didrocks
[06:23] <didrocks> salut jibel
[06:25] <duflu> Morning didrocks and jibel
[06:27] <didrocks> hey duflu
[06:28] <jibel> hi duflu
[07:50] <willcooke> morning all
[07:57] <willcooke> anyone got any ideas for a service which will allow me to build a poll for the wallpaper comp?  The polls built in to Discourse don't scale and limit each poll to 20 entries or thereabouts.  There are > 100 wallpaper entries
[08:02] <Laney> moin
[08:02] <willcooke> hi Laney
[08:03] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:04] <willcooke> morning didrocks, how goes?
[08:04] <didrocks> willcooke: apart from google form + API, I don't have any strong idea
[08:04] <didrocks> willcooke: I'm fine, thanks, you?
[08:04] <Laney> hi willcooke hi didrocks
[08:04] <willcooke> didrocks, I'll take another look at Forms
[08:06] <jibel> paid version of surveymonkey
[08:17] <duflu> Morning willcooke and Laney
[08:17] <willcooke> afternoon duflu
[09:00] <Laney> oops
[09:00] <Laney> duf TAB :(
[09:03] <Laney> anyone in touch with kylin?
[09:03] <Laney> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/440066548/buildlog_ubuntu_eoan_amd64_ubuntukylin_BUILDING.txt.gz think they need to seed a theme
[09:04] <Laney> ah, handsome_feng is here ^^^^
[09:21] <darkxst> my latest gjs upload is failing autopkgtests on arm64, but I don't have access to any arm64 to investigate further
[09:25] <handsome_feng> Laney: Thanks, So just seeds gtk-common-themems will fix this build failed?
[09:26] <Laney> should do
[09:27] <handsome_feng> Laney: Then I will do it now, thanks for your info, :)
[09:27] <Laney> snap:gtk-common-themes, see the ubuntu seeds for how we do it there
[09:28] <handsome_feng> Laney: Got it!
[09:28] <Laney> 👏
[09:37] <willcooke> WOW!!  164 entries for the wallpaper comp this cycle!
[09:38] <didrocks> nice
[09:38] <marcustomlinson> Crazy
[09:39] <willcooke> didrocks, Google forms work out pretty well.  I need to look at the API next time though.  It's taken me 40 mins to populate the answers
[09:40] <didrocks> willcooke: 40 min doesn't sound too bad
[09:42] <willcooke> copy and pasting for 40 mins solid is verrrry boring :)
[09:46] <didrocks> heh, good music is needed :p
[09:49] <Laney> sounds like managerial life
[09:54] <Laney> darkxst: can try to get a backtrace if you want?
[09:56] <darkxst> Laney, that would be good if you can, logs are not showing anything around the failed test
[09:56] <Laney> well it does show a sigsegv
[09:56] <Laney> so lets see
[09:57] <willcooke> desktoppers:  can you test please:  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSciJiNFt-cnSOlt_mSIIwQUl8RNslg-3cdu1uUsqgbqERIb4Q/viewform
[09:57] <willcooke> I will reset the answers before it is generally announced
[09:58] <Laney> are you planning to open it to the general public?
[09:59] <Laney> and is this every entry or did you pre filter?
[10:00] <Laney> form seemed to work from my side fwiw
[10:12] <willcooke> Laney, yeah, general public.  No filtering
[10:26] <darkxst> Laney, I meant nothing useful in logs
[10:56] <Laney> darkxst: it just passed for me
[10:56] <Laney> maybe retry?
[10:57] <Laney> willcooke: interesting, guess we'll see how that goes :-)
[11:03] <darkxst> Laney, thanks, have kicked off a retry
[11:18] <Laney> darkxst: worked
[11:18]  * Laney was spying on the logs
[11:29] <darkxst> Laney, cool, guess you have many super powers ;)
[11:33] <RikMills> hi. does vlc start in ubuntu daily?
[11:40] <Laney> wfm
[11:45] <RikMills> LP: #1842382
[11:50] <RikMills> wonder why it is just flavour dailies then :/
[11:52] <RikMills> Laney: did you test the current or the 20190903 build?
[11:52] <Laney> no I tried from my system
[11:52] <Laney> do you mean a live session?
[11:53] <RikMills> yes, live cd. I'm updating an installed eoan now to see if the bug appears
[12:02] <RAOF> 119115
[12:03]  * Laney presses RAOF's yubikey
[12:05] <willcooke> :D
[12:13] <Laney> RikMills: it is broken if I apt install it on an ubuntu iso too
[12:13] <Laney> but I don't think I'm going to have time to look into it, sorry
[12:13] <Laney> the guy on the bug is barking up the wrong tree with that /lib thing though, that's just becaue we have usrmerge
[12:14] <Laney> well, unless vlc is doing some weird introspection .........
[12:15] <RikMills> Laney: thanks. I forgot about usrmerge. it just worked on the installed system I updated, so at the moment seems vlc doesn't like something about recent live sessions
[12:21] <Laney> openat(AT_FDCWD, "/vlc/plugins/plugins.dat", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[12:21] <Laney> that's missing the libdir prefix
[12:23] <RikMills> o_o
[12:24] <Laney> bet if you do sudo ln -s /usr/lib/*/vlc/ / it starts working
[12:25]  * RikMills checks
[12:27] <RikMills> Laney: yep, it does
[12:27] <Laney> so I guess look at what vlc's doing to find that plugins.dat thing
[12:31] <RikMills> Laney: thanks for that
[12:33] <Laney> no problemo
[13:13] <Trevinho> hey, I won't be around for the meeting as I've a funeral to attend... I might be around at beginning but not all time
[13:27] <ricotz> Laney, I confirmed in the past that e.g. libreoffice is crashing running on daily iso live session after "apt upgrade", so it is definitely an live session issue
[13:27] <ricotz> that was with a bionic daily iso
[13:30] <kenvandine> Meeting time!
[13:30] <kenvandine> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2019-09-03
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep  3 13:30:23 2019 UTC.  The chair is kenvandine. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:30] <kenvandine> Roll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out) , tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)
[13:30] <marcustomlinson> hi
[13:30] <didrocks> hey
[13:31] <Laney> morning
[13:31] <Laney> ricotz: what is "it"?
[13:31] <Trevinho> (hi)
[13:32] <ricotz> Laney, "that the upgrading packages in a live session get borked"
[13:32] <kenvandine> Let's get started
[13:32] <kenvandine> #topic rls-ee-bugs
[13:32] <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:33] <kenvandine> bug 1662031
[13:33] <kenvandine> looks like oSoMoN had at least looked at a similar bug a while back
[13:34] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1842256 ?
[13:35] <kenvandine> whoops, yet which is linked to the old bug i linked :)
[13:35] <Laney> sounds like one to take to me
[13:35] <kenvandine> ok
[13:36] <kenvandine> yeah, i'm thinking we assign it to oSoMoN
[13:36] <didrocks> +1 and he isn't there to say no :p
[13:37] <kenvandine> done
[13:38] <kenvandine> bug 1841929
[13:38] <kenvandine> i think we should take that too
[13:38] <Laney> kenvandine: you need to target to series to make it come up on -tracking (as well as deleting the tag)
[13:39] <Laney> don't understand why this bug is so important, seems quite minor to me
[13:39] <Laney> but no strong opinion
[13:39] <marcustomlinson> I guess is didrocks wants to take it...
[13:39] <marcustomlinson> *if
[13:39] <didrocks> I don't think I will have to have a look TBH
[13:40] <didrocks> but it's a regression, we shouldn't really accept regressions IMHO
[13:40] <kenvandine> I suspect lots of people will experience it
[13:40] <didrocks> it makes using the vol+/- unusable here (and was confirmed)
[13:40] <kenvandine> i almost never press that key and just release it
[13:40] <Laney> but you can do ...
[13:40]  * Laney shrugs
[13:41] <kenvandine> Anyone want to volunteer to take it?
[13:42] <didrocks> I think seb was talking about Trevinho knowing that part of the code
[13:42] <didrocks> (it's opened upstream btw, but didn't get feedback)
[13:42] <kenvandine> that's what i was thinking
[13:42] <Trevinho> mh, I can have a look
[13:42] <kenvandine> :)
[13:42] <kenvandine> ok
[13:44] <kenvandine> bug 1841794
[13:46] <kenvandine> has anyone here reproduced this?
[13:46] <didrocks> some dups, can be reproduced reliably with the Dock in autohide mode (so I bet upstream won't be really interested to look at it)
[13:47] <kenvandine> we clearly need to take this
[13:48] <Trevinho> well, I'm quite sure upsteream doesn't want anything crashing either
[13:48] <Trevinho> but yeah, it's mine.
[13:48] <kenvandine> oik
[13:49] <kenvandine> bug 1841718
[13:51] <kenvandine> this is probably not mutter or gtk
[13:55] <kenvandine> anyone think we should take the radeon bug?
[13:56] <Laney> If it's a driver problem it's for Timo probably.
[13:56] <kenvandine> do you think i should  mark as invalid for mutter and gtk?
[13:56] <kenvandine> i think so
[13:56] <marcustomlinson> yeah agree
[13:57] <marcustomlinson> from the history it's likely xserver-xorg-video-ati again
[13:57] <Laney> Would suggest nominating and assigning for the driver package too, otherwise it might get forgotten
[13:58] <kenvandine> bug 1841915
[13:59] <kenvandine> Laney: you've been commenting on that
[13:59] <kenvandine> what do you think?
[13:59] <Laney> I think Wayland only bugs are not rls tracking material
[13:59] <kenvandine> ok
[14:00] <kenvandine> that's it for ee incoming
[14:00] <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:01] <kenvandine> bug 1834671 isn't assigned
[14:01] <kenvandine> affects chromium and firefox
[14:01] <kenvandine> i'll assign to oSoMoN
[14:02] <kenvandine> the rest are assigned
[14:02] <kenvandine> moving on
[14:03] <kenvandine> #topic rls-dd-bugs
[14:03] <kenvandine> nothing incoming
[14:03] <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:05] <kenvandine> bug 1828884
[14:05] <kenvandine> there's nobody assigned to the poppler tasks, which are the only ones not fixed
[14:06] <kenvandine> anyone know about this?
[14:06] <marcustomlinson> seb I believe pokes at this each week
[14:07] <marcustomlinson> I guess mean, no I don't know
[14:07] <kenvandine> :)
[14:07] <kenvandine> ok, moving on
[14:07] <kenvandine> #topic rls-cc-bugs
[14:07] <kenvandine> nothing incoming and tracking is fine
[14:07] <marcustomlinson> what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1833617?
[14:09] <kenvandine> from the comments it looks like it's being handled
[14:09] <kenvandine> there is a test kernel
[14:09] <marcustomlinson> ah that was tracking ok
[14:09] <kenvandine> #topic rls-bb-bugs
[14:09] <kenvandine> nothing incoming
[14:09] <kenvandine> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:10] <kenvandine> tracking is a long list
[14:10] <kenvandine> the poppler task is showing up there as well
[14:11] <kenvandine> there is also bug 1727908
[14:12]  * kenvandine  assignes the bionic task to seb as well
[14:13] <kenvandine> I think that's it
[14:13] <kenvandine> #topic aob
[14:14] <kenvandine> going once
[14:14] <kenvandine> going twice
[14:15] <kenvandine> Thanks everyone!
[14:15] <kenvandine> #endmeeting
[14:15] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep  3 14:15:03 2019 UTC.
[14:15] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-09-03-13.30.moin.txt
[14:15] <marcustomlinson> thanks
[14:18] <didrocks> thx!
[17:37] <willcooke> night all