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kc2bezSame result in 19.1000:04
wxlthere's a bunch of removable media options in pcmanfm-qt preferences under volume, but nothing about which app to use00:09
wxlmaybe stracing pcmanfm-qt and inserting might give some clues00:09
kc2bezYeah, none of those options are helpful.00:10
kc2bezI can try a strace00:10
wxl`-e trace=open,read,write`, but you probably know that00:18
kc2bezHmm, that wasn't terribly helpful either.00:22
wxldidn't open mimeapps eh?00:22
kc2bezpcmanfm launches before you can insert the media.00:24
wxlhuh?00:24
kc2bezso a strace for pcmanfm just lanches pcmanfm and returns a prompt00:26
wxlhuh00:26
wxluhhh00:26
kc2bezpcmanfm-qt in the terminal does the same00:26
kc2bezI didn't add any arguments at the end00:27
wxl   -d, --daemon-mode00:27
wxl              Run PCManFM as a daemon00:27
wxl:)00:27
kc2bezoh00:27
kc2bezdidn't think of that00:27
wxlXD00:28
kc2bezOh, that is the same.00:30
wxlharumph00:31
kc2bezweird00:31
wxldo `strace -fp $(pidof pcmanfm-qt) -e trace=open,read,write`00:33
wxlif that gets grumpy, just look up the pid00:34
wxl`pidof -s`00:35
wxlthat's limit it to one00:36
kc2bezpid  1409] read(25, "deo/x-ms-asx;video/x-ms-wm;video"..., 4096)00:36
kc2bez^ when I nserted the DVD00:36
wxlyay clues00:36
wxland we have that set in mimeapps?00:37
kc2bezI have to look.00:37
wxlwhat was the open before that, btw?00:38
lubot<HMollerCl> Someone noticed that in pcmanfm-qt some icon colors change from 19.04 to 19.10? At least in my installation that are not fresh 19.1000:39
lubot<HMollerCl> I'm thinking of window icon blue to gray, i icon (icon size) gray to blue00:40
lubot<HMollerCl> Papirus icon theme00:41
kc2bezThe answer is yes, we have those set as mimeapps in 19.0400:43
wxlok so that's why it works00:44
wxlso how to make it automatic.. that's a whole different story00:44
wxlbut that's the basic thing i wanted to make sure we did have :)00:44
kc2bezIndeed00:44
wxl@guiverc: can you confirm what @HMollerCl is saying about about icon colors? i don't have a 19.10 laying about right now00:45
* guiverc reading00:45
guiverccan someone please explain what I'm to compare/look for, I'm unsure  19.10?  want me to compare to 19.04? or looking for blue change? sorry somewhat confused00:48
wxlthe color of pcmanfm-qt icons00:48
guiverc19.10 daily live, lubuntu,d esktop, network are blue, trash-grey, computer-blank, my drives/devices blue, , right side mostly blue but depends on mime-types, not sure what I'm too look for though00:52
lubot<lynorian> isn't this because icon theme changed00:52
guivercePapirus is Icon theme on my booted live00:53
lubot<lynorian> I mean new version00:53
lubot<HMollerCl> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/2qSPdSE.jpg00:57
lubot<HMollerCl> That's 19.04, looks good00:57
lubot<HMollerCl> I'm on borrow pc00:57
hmollerclcould enter irc00:59
hmollerclso, how can I upload a picture from here so guiverc can see it?00:59
guivercokay I was looking at places/device/file-folder icons; sorry01:00
lubot<teward001> https://t.me/ldevel2019/76275 I could just copy the link here... assuming it's the same one you just pasted hmoller :P01:00
guivercdifference appears to me (i) is in blue, otherwise same01:01
lubot<teward001> IRC has no image embedding though :P01:01
kc2bezhmollercl: you could use share.riseup.net01:01
guiverc(or I load telegram.. loading)01:02
guiverc^ (i) i meant thumbnail view; the blue stands out and doesn't look like it has anything to do with icons either side of it in my opinion..01:06
lubot<HMollerCl> Yes, that is one thing01:08
lubot<HMollerCl> The other I the window icon uper left01:08
* guiverc is very slow at times... but has gone to take the dog for a walk...01:09
newtolubuntuhi, I am going to install lubuntu, can anyone tell me the version of of package "hplip" that is currently used by 19.10 (Eoan Ermine)? Thx.01:20
kc2bez!info hplip eoan | newtolubuntu 01:22
ubot93newtolubuntu: hplip (3.19.6+dfsg0-1, eoan): HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Built by hplip. Size 198 kB / 514 kB01:22
newtolubuntuthx, that is great, my hp printer needs 3.19.601:23
newtolubuntu!info hplip disco01:23
ubot93hplip (3.19.1+dfsg0-1, disco): HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Built by hplip. Size 197 kB / 508 kB01:23
newtolubuntuok, I am going for the lubuntu eoan, thanks again!01:24
kc2bezDoes anyone know how VM's on a synology work? bug 184234601:35
ubot93Bug 1842346 in lxde-metapackages (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 19.04 live cd wont continue to setup/desktop" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184234601:35
The_LoudSpeakerwxl: re: globalkeys. Did you see my message? 01:54
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Does anyone know how VM's on a synology work? bug 1842346], First time I "hear" synology. Read fast and understood synagogue02:21
wxl@The_loudSpeaker remind me?03:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from The_LoudSpeaker: <The_LoudSpeaker> re:globalkeys, I made the changes, after getting source using uscan.  Also, commited them but then while building the program, it fails.03:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from The_LoudSpeaker: <The_LoudSpeaker> CMake Error: The source directory "/home/raman/phab/globalkeys-pck/lxqt-globalkeys" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt03:13
wxlideally i need the full context03:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I am heading to classes rn. Will ping in sometime.03:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL93f1b22e241c: Add bullet point lists to nobleNote] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL93f1b22e241c04:59
wxl\17:16
kc2bez?17:17
wxl|17:17
lubot<HMollerCl> -17:17
kc2bezfeels like we are writing a Perl script :P17:17
wxlXD17:18
The_LoudSpeaker/17:18
The_LoudSpeakeralso, re: globalkeys, wxl: what I did was, make the changes you requested. by downloading source ofcourse, but while building it, it's giving me errors17:19
wxlneed all the info, logs, etc17:21
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wait a sec.17:21
The_LoudSpeakerhttps://phab.lubuntu.me/P4117:32
The_LoudSpeaker^ wxl: 17:36
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker what's with all those deletitions?18:17
The_LoudSpeakerI don't know. digging in rn. I haven't made any deletions. 18:18
wxlwell that's super duper strange18:20
wxlit appears you're just trying to build the packaging that's already there??18:20
The_LoudSpeakerpossible.18:20
wxlwell i see:18:21
wxl 1. you clone phab18:21
The_LoudSpeakerno. not possible.18:21
wxl 2. you download the source18:21
The_LoudSpeakerI don't have it installed.18:21
The_LoudSpeaker3. ?18:22
wxl 3. ok you do etdit the install file and changelog18:22
wxl 4. and then build it18:22
wxllet me try to replicate but brb18:22
lubot<RikMills> you are trying to build binaries?18:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I guess yes.18:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> trying to build lxqt-globalkeys18:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> also, wxl. I guess I got it. the deletions. And also build successfully18:31
The_LoudSpeakerbefore 4. you run tar -x --strip-components -f ../P_V.orig.tar.xz 18:32
The_LoudSpeakerwhere P and V are name and version resp.18:32
lubot<RikMills> the deletions are because your debian folder is not in an unpacked source tree18:33
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> before 4. you run tar -x --strip-components -f ../P_V.orig.tar …], yeah and this step unpacks it. right?18:36
The_LoudSpeaker@tsimonq2, what about grub?18:39
lubot<HMollerCl> question. What's the difference between the laucnher and the in menu search?18:49
lubot<HMollerCl> because, for lightweight purpose, we could stop that too.18:50
The_LoudSpeaker@HMollerCl which launcher you are talking about?18:52
lubot<HMollerCl> the one that should open with meta+r XD18:53
lubot<HMollerCl> I mean, instead of meta+r and start typing, one can do meta and start typing18:53
lubot<HMollerCl> which is more direct with win10.18:53
lubot<kc2bez> runner does much more than the search in the menu.18:54
The_LoudSpeakermeta+r opens runner. One advantage over search from menu is that you can also run commands. eg you can run teleirc as a command18:54
The_LoudSpeakeryou can't find teleirc in search from menu18:55
lubot<kc2bez> it does contextual search too.18:55
The_LoudSpeakeryou mean indexing?18:55
lubot<kc2bez> e.g. search for "software" in the menu then do it in runner.18:56
The_LoudSpeakerunderstood.18:57
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, but I'm not sure it's conext, maybe he uses he comment line from the .desktop18:58
The_LoudSpeakerin menu it showed only software sources, in runner it shows additional drivers, software sources, discover and synaptic also. 18:58
lubot<HMollerCl> not only the "name"18:58
lubot<HMollerCl> I get the differences, see the value, but for low resources it is an option.18:59
The_LoudSpeakeryou suggest removal of runner?18:59
lubot<HMollerCl> No, only to disable for lower resources (512Mb RAM).19:00
The_LoudSpeakercan we do that?19:00
lubot<HMollerCl> lxqt-runner uses 16Mb according to qps19:00
The_LoudSpeakeralso, I would like to volunteer for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T24 ?19:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Captive Portal Support: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2419:01
lubot<HMollerCl> there is a .desktop in autostart. Would need to modify it. The same way we didt in with nm-applet.19:01
The_LoudSpeakernoice. we could try that then.19:02
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe3f731b58929: Add clear formatting button to nobleNote] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe3f731b5892919:02
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T4: Make it lighter] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4#227619:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl where can I find source for nm-tray ?19:04
lubot<lynorian> runner is great19:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [@HMollerCl where can I find source for nm-tray ?], nvm. got it.https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray19:05
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, that19:05
lubot<HMollerCl> @lynorian [runner is great], yes it is. It's only that menu can done the most used functionality and in low ram environment it takes some of it.19:07
wxlword of warning, @The_LoudSpeaker: you're kind of on your own with all that new code stuff19:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> word of warning, @The_LoudSpeaker: you're kind of on your own with all tha …], Noted. you suggest I do some more packaging before trying that?19:09
wxlnot necessarily, no19:09
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> also, scroll up.19:09
wxlbut it will mean you're hacking on upstream code and that will mean working with them and their requirements19:10
wxland yes i saw you missed a step. not sure why i didn't catch that19:10
The_LoudSpeakeroh. noted. I would like to work with upstream. It would be fun I guess? 19:11
wxlindeed19:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALadd82a04c601: Remove accidental doubling on Aa button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALadd82a04c60119:12
The_LoudSpeakerabout not doing the tar earlier, few days ago I had done the tar step just after 2nd step but then while building it gave me a different error. https://phab.lubuntu.me/P39 to be precise.19:12
The_LoudSpeakerdifference in order made the difference ?19:13
wxldpkg-source: info: local changes detected, the modified files are:19:14
wxldidn't use quilt maybe?19:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> dpkg-source: info: local changes detected, the modified files are:], I had tried commiting and doing it also. shame story repeated.19:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> didn't use quilt maybe?], why quilt? we are not patching na?19:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I had tried with quilt also, again shame story!19:15
wxlheh19:16
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2e5863bfba2e: Add underline button to noblenote] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2e5863bfba2e19:16
The_LoudSpeakeralso, how do I push these changes now? 19:16
wxlarc diff19:17
The_LoudSpeakerack. I thought git commit and then git push? 19:18
wxliff you have push capability and you're 100% confident all is well19:18
The_LoudSpeakerokay. I am running arc diff and it is including manny files.19:20
wxlthen you didn't clean stuff up19:21
wxlyou're missing several basic steps of the packaging tutorial......19:21
The_LoudSpeakeryou mean this? rm -rf !(debian) .pc/19:22
wxlyep19:23
The_LoudSpeakeralso, wait. I did debuild -d, should have done -b. have to do it again now. *facepalms*19:23
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfe3d5a7ad77d: Add how to launch spell check] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfe3d5a7ad77d19:38
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7fef5e37f1a9: Add unkown word and Add to Dictionary] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7fef5e37f1a919:47
The_LoudSpeakerwhere do I find palinek on irc?19:51
wxlafaik you don't19:51
The_LoudSpeakerwait found him #lxqt19:51
The_LoudSpeakeroftc19:51
The_LoudSpeakerwhat do you mean you don't? 19:52
wxli didn't know he was about19:53
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL769e51ca7d39: Add Featherpad Replace with and suggestions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL769e51ca7d3919:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb632a261211d: Add switch suggestion] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb632a261211d19:59
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL47f45b53aa1a: Add Correct Once button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL47f45b53aa1a20:03
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL569db294251b: Add correct All button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL569db294251b20:06
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9bdf1985b29c: Add Ignore Once button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9bdf1985b29c20:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1bc50ac4da66: Add Ignore all button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1bc50ac4da6620:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a04b3583797: Add spellcheck screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a04b358379720:15
lubot<kc2bez> @HMollerCl [ok, but I'm not sure it's conext, maybe he uses he comment line from the .deskto …], I see your point. I guess my point was that runner searches more than just the name which can be handy.20:54
The_LoudSpeakerwxl:22:35
The_LoudSpeakeryou there?22:36
The_LoudSpeakerI was about to arc diff when I noticed the changes we made aren't there in the build. https://phab.lubuntu.me/P42 is the build log, shouldn't the line 600 here be different?22:37
wxlwhen you build the binary it should create a directory that includes the build files.. check and see!22:43
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL93c9270f3e13: Update Featherpad version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL93c9270f3e1322:49
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I am getting this:22:53
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> `raman@JARVIS:~/phab/globalkeys-pck/lxqt-globalkeys$ rm -rf !(debian) .pc/ … bash: !: event not found`22:53
* wxl points at packaging tutorial22:53
wxlrm -rf !(debian) .pc/ # requires bash and `shopt -s extglob`22:53
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> yeah I saw that just now. reading what that measn22:54
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> *mens22:54
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> *means22:54
wxlyou have bash22:54
wxljust run22:54
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> aahhh! new keyborad problems22:54
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I think it's because I am in a chroot env22:54
lubot<kc2bez> do you have a space between the bang and (22:55
lubot<kc2bez> I can't tell22:55
* wxl cleans kc2bez's glasses22:55
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> no I don't22:55
kc2bezthanks wxl now I can see it :P22:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3aa339436617: Update discover version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3aa33943661722:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> when you build the binary it should create a directory that includes the b …], Explain this again please.23:03
wxldo your build again and then give me the output of `tree` (you might have to install it)23:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8610c09e7fe0: Update discover_screen.png] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8610c09e7fe023:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> how do give te output of tree ?23:08
wxlpastebin of some kind23:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I installed it. It did make the changes tho.23:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> the file is under /etc and not in /usr/23:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> pastebin of some kind], cat tree | arc paste works?23:09
wxlso there ya go23:09
wxltree | arc paste23:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> bash tree comand not found23:10
wxldo your build again and then give me the output of `tree` (you might have to install it) <<<<<<<<<<23:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> so there ya go], yup! but I gotta do it again now. I guess I missed the dch.23:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> do your build again and then give me the output of `tree` (you might have …], how do I install after building? make install or just sudo dpkg the created debian file?23:18
wxldpkg23:21
The_LoudSpeakerack.23:27
The_LoudSpeakeralso, https://phab.lubuntu.me/D3823:28
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Changed the position of config file provided by upstream.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D3823:28
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> oops! time is wrong in the dch. I will change it.23:29
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> there you go.23:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: check T30 once.23:38
The_LoudSpeakerwhich is the file I should look for in rDEFAULTSETTINGS ? for Xscreensavers?23:40
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker lean on @aptghetto and see what he thinks on T3023:40
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @aptghetto hii!23:40
wxlum @The_LoudSpeaker https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#105323:41
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#105323:41
The_LoudSpeakerouch!23:42
The_LoudSpeakerforgot about that23:42
The_LoudSpeakerabout that, the file is at /etc/X11/app-defaults/Xscreensaver in my vm but there's no X11 folder in rDEFAULTSETTINGS 23:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#227823:58

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