[00:07] <wxl> you can add it
[00:12] <wxl> oh no @kc2bez 
[00:12] <wxl> i hope you don't get the rain of fire and brimstone
[00:12] <wxl> i would have at least checked other flavors, not to mention other distros to confirm first
[00:12] <wxl> lesson learned: always have a manjaro and a debian vm around XD
[00:13] <lubot> <kc2bez> I did check debian
[00:13] <wxl> well that's good at least
[00:13] <wxl> still, it might be an xdg bug
[00:13] <wxl> which is why i mention the other flavros
[00:16] <lubot> <kc2bez> That is fair, I can spin up a plasma VM and test it.
[00:16] <wxl> might be good to spot check a couple mature flavors, namely kubuntu and ubuntu.. especially the latter
[00:17] <wxl> and/or stock debian
[00:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL69f92780292d: Update discover installed screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL69f92780292d
[00:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> @apt-ghetto check T30 and respond when you can. I have a few queries. 
[01:11] <kc2bez> wxl: kubuntu `NotShowIn=KDE;` Results in the menu item disappearing. I will check Gnome too.
[01:13] <wxl> ruh roh
[01:14] <wxl> theoretically xdg *should* be just a specification but there is some actual code
[01:14] <wxl> it is the responsibility (generally) of applications to implement the specification
[01:15] <kc2bez> Well `OnlyShowIn` seems to be honored.
[01:44] <kc2bez> `NotShowIn=GNOME;` works in mainline Ubuntu
[01:50] <kc2bez> Interesting side note, I don't see a Manjaro LXQt download anymore.
[01:51] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> wxl: kubuntu `NotShowIn=KDE;` Results in the menu item disappearing. I …], sorry, what are you tallking about?
[01:52] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I've used NotShowIn and Only ShowIn and it works ok.
[01:53] <kc2bez> NotShowIn=LXQt doesn't seem to work from what I can tell.
[01:54] <lubot> <HMollerCl> in what are you testing?
[01:55] <kc2bez> I have tested in Lubuntu and Debian LXQt
[01:56] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I'm trying to see if I have used that, but I've used OnlyShowIn software-properties-drivers-lxqt.desktop
[01:56] <kc2bez> Basically I am trying to hide a desktop from our menu but leave it available for other DE's
[01:56] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yes, which .desktop?
[01:57] <kc2bez> calamares
[01:57] <kc2bez> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108
[01:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108
[01:57] <lubot> <HMollerCl> what I've done in put the same .desktop in xdg with hidden flag
[01:58] <kc2bez> If I use hidden it will hide it for other flavors.
[01:58] <lubot> <HMollerCl> if it's in our xdg it won't
[01:59] <lubot> <HMollerCl> if you are in 19.10 look in /usr/share/Lubuntu/applications
[02:00] <kc2bez> We have two desktop entries in the live environment. One we create for us and the other needs to remain for other flavors.
[02:00] <lubot> <HMollerCl> that's how I hide screenshot in lximage-qt
[02:00] <kc2bez> One already is on the actual desktop
[02:00] <kc2bez> There are 2 in the menu
[02:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/lxqt:/home/hmoller/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop
[02:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> that are the xdg_Dir in that other
[02:02] <lubot> <HMollerCl> so if you put the same .desktop in one xdg dir with highest order, it will have higher priority.
[02:03] <kc2bez> But they are different.
[02:03] <kc2bez> One we create and one gets created from the installation of calamares on the live image
[02:04] <lubot> <HMollerCl> do the live has this same value? XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=LXQt
[02:05] <kc2bez> yes
[02:06] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> One we create and one gets created from the installation of calamares o …], I don't get why you can hide the one you want "cloning" the same .desktop in a higher order xdg dir.
[02:11] <kc2bez> We create this one that we want in calamares-settings https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/lubuntu-calamares.desktop.in
[02:12] <lubot> <HMollerCl> shouldn't that have "OnlyShowIn=LXQt" ?
[02:13] <kc2bez> No those are our settings
[02:13] <kc2bez> This desktop gets created in the calamares install and then we patch it https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/debian/patches/0001-replace-pkexec-by-sudo.patch
[02:14] <kc2bez> calamares is for every flavor not just Lubuntu
[02:14] <kc2bez> so we have to treat it as such
[02:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> an that is the .desktop that is actually in the desktop, not in the menu?
[02:16] <kc2bez> No the one on the desktop is ours, that part is good.
[02:16] <lubot> <HMollerCl> and the one that is in the menu is the one that we don't want to see? Where is it?  in /usr/share/applications/ ?
[02:17] <kc2bez> They both actually show in the menu and they are both in /usr/share/applications/
[02:21] <lubot> <kc2bez> (Photo, 400x800) https://i.imgur.com/Ylqrltk.jpg
[02:21] <lubot> <HMollerCl> since when can I see it? a daily from 2 weeks ago?
[02:22] <lubot> <kc2bez> I think we have always had it.
[02:23] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I would try creating a usr/share/Lubuntu/applications/calammares.desktop
[02:23] <lubot> <HMollerCl> with: … [Desktop Entry] … NoDisplay=true
[02:23] <lubot> <HMollerCl> *calamares.desktop
[02:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> or in the XDG_DATA_DIRS the live session use
[02:27] <lubot> <kc2bez> That does seem to work. … Pretty hacky though and doesn't really address the underlying issue with `NotShowIn`
[02:41] <lubot> <HMollerCl> agree
[02:42] <lubot> <kc2bez> I think most people use the one on the desktop anyway but it would be nice to clean it up a bit.
[02:54] <wxl[m]> Officially agaida is high
[02:55] <wxl[m]> > read the freedesktop spezification about Hidden - NotShowIn should be deprecated
[02:55] <wxl[m]> I have no idea where he's seeing that
[02:58] <wxl[m]> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/tree/menu/menu-spec.xml#n249
[02:58] <wxl[m]> That's from git master! 
[03:01] <kc2bez> "$EDITOR is a really fine menu editor"
[03:03] <kc2bez> I apologize wxl[m] I should've checked in on your results from your check-in with the flavors before I made a bug.
[03:04] <wxl[m]> No you did no wrong. He at least admitted the implementation was lacking
[03:10] <wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 could you approve D38? Should be super simple. 
[03:10] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'll look right now
[03:18] <wxl[m]> Thx
[03:45] <lubot> zxcajik was added by: zxcajik
[04:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe911b18ed414: Change house button instead of blue rectangle] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe911b18ed414
[13:42] <lubot> <HMollerCl> jjaja, just read NotShowIn bug from @kc2bez
[13:42] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I mean, the responses
[14:14] <lubot> <teward001> *shuts off @tsimonq2’s email antispam system* oops i did a thing
[17:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING554b92d17f2b: Changed the position of config file provided by upstream.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING554b92d17f2b
[17:30] <lubot> <aptghetto> @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> @apt-ghetto check T30 and respond when you can. I have a few q …], I have checked T30 … What is unclear? You create a config file /etc/default/grub.d/grub-theme-lubuntu.cfg and set some variable?
[17:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf126819b0f7c: add left click to see more details on installed programs] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf126819b0f7c
[17:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1007130eda1a: update startup disk creator version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1007130eda1a
[18:38] <lubot> <HMollerCl> found the solution of the problem with the blue (i) icon guiverc https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/commit/dd3335d5ca8e3cd3e7d673a294584b22d8b5e1c8#diff-56e2640e1162d547c92f41f39b277a35
[18:39] <lubot> <HMollerCl> in pcmanfm-qt
[18:41] <lubot> <HMollerCl> and this is what created the problem https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/commit/67f50b0248e2066bb0286f7325baf30d6f19f13b#diff-56e2640e1162d547c92f41f39b277a35
[18:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T117: correct thumbnail icon in pcmanfm-qt] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117
[20:27] <lubot> <kc2bez> I may be a few minutes late to our meeting today but I will join as soon as I can.
=== guiverc2 is now known as guiverc
[20:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALad0597d55c70: Fix capitilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALad0597d55c70
[20:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALffc141cb9fee: Fix nm-tray version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALffc141cb9fee
[21:03] <lynorian> standup?
[21:03] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'm currently AFKish
[21:03] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'll be around in a few
[21:03] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Want to trigger !standup ?
[21:03] <lubot> <tsimonq2> FIFO
[21:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL11382e813888: Update version on libreoffice] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL11382e813888
[21:04] <wxl> !standup
[21:04] <ubot93> standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done.
[21:05] <lubot> <tsimonq2> wxl: ack on FIFO for standup?
[21:05] <lynorian> ack
[21:06] <wxl> i mean that's pretty much always how it is
[21:06] <lynorian> short week was on vacation
[21:06] <lynorian> FInish more ScreenGrab prefrences
[21:06] <lynorian> Update few missing buttons on nobleNote
[21:06] <lynorian> Add spellcheck for featherpad
[21:06] <lynorian> home button updates on discover
[21:06] <wxl> and that's what the standup message says, so
[21:06] <guiverc> o/
[21:06] <lynorian> writing a whole file for ScreenGrab took a while
[21:09] <wxl> good work on that lyn
[21:10] <lynorian> I have not done the network manager still before release
[21:10] <wxl> you've got plenty of time
[21:12] <kc2bez> o/
[21:12] <wxl> next
[21:12] <kc2bez> me?
[21:13] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I think guiverc was befores
[21:13] <wxl> guiverc was next technically
[21:13] <kc2bez> ok just making sure.
[21:14] <guiverc> kc2bez, you go first; I'm still writing..
[21:14] <kc2bez> ok
[21:14] <kc2bez> * Tasks
[21:14] <kc2bez> - https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108 Filed an upstream bug https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1743
[21:14] <kc2bez> * Wallpaper contest
[21:14] <kc2bez> - It looks like guiverc closed the thread (thanks Chris!) https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-wallpaper-contest-for-eoan-ermine/164
[21:14] <kc2bez> - We (wallpaper selection committee) need to review the entries and pass along the ones for the Lubuntu Members to vote on.
[21:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Drop or change pkexec patch in Calamares: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108
[21:14] <ubot93> Issue 1743 in lxqt/lxqt "Desktop files with NotShowIn=LXQt are still displayed in the menu" [Open]
[21:15] <kc2bez> That is it from me this week.
[21:15] <guiverc> quiet askubu/forums, re; T56 got stuck on GUI testcase; tsimonq2?    vlc won't run on 'live' (large impact kubuntu too), and got nowhere with this with unknown reason..
[21:16] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> 🙋🏻‍♂️
[21:17] <guiverc> fyi:  vlc won't run on any 19.10 iso, but installed only by kubuntu & lubuntu i believe  
[21:17] <guiverc> but runs once installed; just not as 'live'
[21:17] <wxl> i'd kick that over to vlc, i.e. just file a bug and move on XD
[21:17] <guiverc> vlc marked invalid (not vlc but LIVE problem), early today back to incomplete (not there issue)
[21:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> o/
[21:19] <wxl> well then it should be marked against SOMETHING
[21:19] <wxl> bad triager
[21:19] <guiverc> lp 1842382
[21:19] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1842382 in vlc (Ubuntu) "vlc won't start; eoan 19.10 ubuntu/lubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu-mate daily" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842382
[21:19] <wxl> well it's incomplete, so that's good
[21:20] <guiverc> not really; i filed bug - vlc say's it not them; RikMills (kubuntu) & me getting nowhere and can't find why it won't work 
[21:21] <wxl> that should really be confirmed
[21:21] <guiverc> RikMills confirmed it occurs in Kubuntu, occurs also in listed live-ISOs but they don't include vlc by default only lubuntu/kubuntu do of those tested
[21:25] <guiverc> (another user also reported bad lubuntu qa-test 'live' quoting that issue too I saw)
[21:26] <wxl> well keep at it i guess on that
[21:26] <wxl> @HMollerCl you or me?
[21:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ok
[21:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I shook the cage here https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/572 which brought a good conversation on using kde themes in lxqt.
[21:27] <lubot> <HMollerCl> although kvantum can change themes, if we could use/config the kde ones it would be great.
[21:28] <wxl> hm
[21:28] <wxl> is that something worth documenting somewhere?
[21:28] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I woul dmention kvantum in the ,manul
[21:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> maybe a tips and tricks page
[21:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> but the rest is to hacky now
[21:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Also found the problem of th the blue (i) icon for thumbnails in pcmanfm-qt, I created https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117.
[21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- Error: T117. is an invalid task reference.
[21:30] <wxl> i was thinking perhaps more for the purposes of development
[21:30] <wxl> i do think a document regarding theme development might not be a bad idea
[21:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> aaa, maybe create a task to be aware of it.
[21:30] <wxl> it was a bit of cpp manual for the suspend button on sddm
[21:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL696b8df8de9f: Update localc version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL696b8df8de9f
[21:31] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> it was a bit of cpp manual for the suspend button on sddm], I would wait, for now, see what agaida makes,.
[21:32] <wxl> ok
[21:32] <lynorian> I don't quite understand how to use kvantum quite that much
[21:32] <wxl> re: the icon can you pull those patches in to fix that? seems relatively simple.
[21:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> On https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117 there is a solution upstream, shoudl we cherry pick it? can we?
[21:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] correct thumbnail icon in pcmanfm-qt: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117
[21:32] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @lynorian [<lynorian> I don't quite understand how to use kvantum quite that much], +1
[21:33] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> re: the icon can you pull those patches in to fix that? seems relatively s …], I can, just need to know if we can in this cycle and how to look a the code that we are compiling to make sure line numbers match.
[21:33] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @lynorian [<lynorian> I don't quite understand how to use kvantum quite that much], I f you create an entry I can write it.
[21:34] <wxl> we can.. we basically run the show on lxqt stuff, so in a sense timelines don't apply all THAT much..
[21:34] <wxl> i'd try to apply it and if you get stuck we can talk through that
[21:34] <lynorian> like didn't kvantum install its own wierd program
[21:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> lynorian: Qt theming is a paralel unibverse
[21:35] <wxl> XD
[21:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Is like every theme has it's own engine...
[21:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> so kvatum is an engine.
[21:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Breeze needs his own engine
[21:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (which is plasmoid)
[21:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> It has  own  also, very confusing kvantum
[21:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> wxl: I also saw that
[21:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> in sid is the same version for LXQt
[21:37] <lubot> <HMollerCl> aaaa, and breaking news
[21:37] <wxl> ruh roh
[21:37] <lubot> <HMollerCl> was updating lxqt and failed.
[21:37] <wxl> waaa
[21:37] <wxl> ?
[21:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL61a98bfe2c34: Update libreoffice impress version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL61a98bfe2c34
[21:38] <lubot> <HMollerCl> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/lxqt-globalkeys_0.14.1-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb (--unpack): …  trying to overwrite '/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf', which is also in package lubuntu-default-settings 19.10.5 … dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe) … Errors were encoun
[21:38] <lubot> tered while processing: …  /var/cache/apt/archives/lxqt-globalkeys_0.14.1-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[21:38] <lubot> <kc2bez> oh globalkeys
[21:38] <wxl> um
[21:38] <wxl> er
[21:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl: same file in default settings and in .
[21:38] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I believe that with -f it will be installed, but is better to have it clean
[21:39] <wxl> oh helllll
[21:39]  * wxl SIGHS
[21:39] <lubot> <HMollerCl> that's on my side
[21:39] <wxl> globalkeys should have installed to etc/xdg/lxqt not etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt
[21:39] <The_LoudSpeaker> We will have to put it in a lower priority xdg dir
[21:40] <wxl> ^ yes that
[21:40] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/lxqt-globalkeys_0.14.1-0u …], Needs Conflicts/Replaces on a version of default settings lower than the one that removes the file that was moved to that package
[21:40] <wxl> i should have caught that
[21:40] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl yeah. My bad.
[21:40] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Otherwise yes
[21:40] <wxl> noooo not that @tsimonq2 
[21:40] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Okay
[21:40] <wxl> that's too big of a hammer for this
[21:40] <The_LoudSpeaker> Next me? 
[21:40] <wxl> yeah
[21:41] <wxl> no my bad: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/09/01/%23lubuntu-devel.html#t21:36
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> Tasks:
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> * T59: Shortcuts
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> Gotta do it again! 
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> *T30: GRUB-Theme
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> Modified the package to use a script from /etc/default/grub.d/
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> The main concern here is that the postinst file runs update-grub. But I don't know while installing via calamares, how is it installed. Will ping @aptghetto after meet.
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> phab.lubuntu.me/T30
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> *T21: Xscreensaver
[21:41] <The_LoudSpeaker> On it currently.
[21:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> That's it.
[21:42] <wxl> and to be sure this globalkeys b.s. will fix T59 (or should) right?
[21:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> Hopefully
[21:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will put it in lowest priority xdg dir.
[21:44] <wxl> ahh HA
[21:44] <wxl> i did tell you the right way 
[21:44] <wxl> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/08/27/%23lubuntu-devel.html#t23:33
[21:45] <wxl> so i guess i didn't totally screw up XD
[21:45] <wxl> so my big thing was accepting D38, which clearly i shouldn't have XD
[21:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> Like I said, i did. Sorry.
[21:46] <kc2bez> @The_LoudSpeaker You can look here for the calamares grub generation https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/modules/bootloader.conf
[21:46] <wxl> i did manage to catch up on emails.. i think i deleted like 500 or so, so that's a thing
[21:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> kc2bez: Ack
[21:46] <wxl> and i'm going to go smack agaida around on kc2bez's upstream issue re: NotShowIn
[21:47] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> and i'm going to go smack agaida around on kc2bez's upstream issue re: Not …], jajaja
[21:47] <lubot> <HMollerCl> you might have to speak in german
[21:47] <kc2bez> He wasn't too bad on me.
[21:48] <wxl> also i'm not sure we can, but i was thinking about continuing to try to push out the compton fork and sddm-config-editor but to not actually ship them
[21:48] <wxl> Ich bin ein auslander!!!!
[21:48] <wxl> kc2bez: he was pretty nice. but he was wrong.
[21:48] <kc2bez> I agree
[21:49] <lubot> <tsimonq2> "LX 'you're always wrong' Qt" …  Minimum requirements: must speak fluent German
[21:49] <wxl> oh and @The_LoudSpeaker i'm just being silly. you're doing great and i ALWAYS appreciate you
[21:50] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yes, at least I have done more harm than that. I messes DIscover in Kubuntu once (nut it worked nice in lubuntu)
[21:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALedc6ca50a618: Update lomath version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALedc6ca50a618
[21:54] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> @The_LoudSpeaker You can look here for the calamares grub generation ht …], Actually @kc2bez I don't have problem with calamares grub installation. The thing I want to know is, if all the postinst files of all packages which get installed are run together (pack_a.install > pack_b.install > ... > pack_a.postin
[21:54] <lubot> st > pack_b.postinst) OR they are run separately?(pack_a.install > pack_a.postinst > pack_b.install > ...)
[21:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcd90b92d70b4: Update lowriter version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcd90b92d70b4
[21:55] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Actually @kc2bez I don't have problem with calamares grub installation. The thin …], @aptghetto
[21:57] <kc2bez> wxl: Did we close the meeting?
[21:57] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> I have been dragging these tasks for toi long. Will have to speed up I guess and not keep breaking same things again and again!
[21:58] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> wxl: Did we close the meeting?], We didn't AFAIK
[21:59] <wxl> i haven't yet per se
[21:59] <wxl> waiting on @tsimonq2 
[21:59] <lubot> <N0um3n0> Sorry.... Nothing from me, I was away from home this week, hoping to return to the routine
[22:00] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> waiting on @tsimonq2], Basically nothing from me iirc
[22:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> guiverc: ?
[22:01] <guiverc> sorry stepp out.
[22:02] <wxl> ok then i guess we're done
[22:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb0cf685230de: Move version below Usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb0cf685230de
[22:05] <kc2bez> Thanks wxl 
[22:06] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Now, wxl: how do we revert D38?
[22:06] <wxl> just make a new one
[22:07] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Okay.
[22:07] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Will do.
[22:07] <kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: Calamares doesn't install the packages. They would be installed in the live image creation. 
[22:07] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Actually @kc2bez I don't have problem with calamares grub installation. The thin …], Any info on this?
[22:08] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: Calamares doesn't install the packages. They would be …], Yeah so during that how does it does? The theme needs grub to be installed beforehand.
[22:10] <kc2bez> I am not sure I fully understand. Do you want your grub theme to run on the live iso?
[22:12] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Well as far as I understand, from what you said in previous message, calamares just basically copies everything from live iso onto the fs. So if we want theme to be there in installation, we will need it to be there on live right?
[22:13] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker if you get that done, i'll push it out right now
[22:13] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [Well as far as I understand, from what you said in previous message, calamares j …], It uses unsquashfs
[22:13] <wxl> (D38)
[22:13] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker if you get that done, i'll push it out right now], Yeah. Booting my laptop.
[22:14] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [It uses unsquashfs], Docs please.
[22:14] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [Docs please.], They're hiding
[22:25] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> How do I see the xdg dirs?
[22:27] <wxl> $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS is what you want
[22:27] <wxl> but more generally `env | grep XDG`
[22:28] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Ack.
[22:28] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> Just booting up vm. Will create a diff in a while
[22:29] <wxl> kk
[22:29] <wxl> gave up on the chroot?
[22:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> no not yet. using chroot only.
[22:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> but chroot is not lubuntu right?
[22:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> it's eoan
[22:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> using vm to get the xdg_dirs
[22:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> But I have lubuntu as host so I used that. my vm is rigged.
[22:47] <RikMills> guiverc wxl: for kubuntu, I can easily make the vlc issue go away by making kubuntu-settings add an envar just in the live session. I may do this before beta freeze if the bug doesn't get fixed. still though, that would not be solving the underlying issue
[22:47] <RikMills> then again, vlc seems the only thing impacted, so not sure they are doing sane things to detect runtime paths
[22:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D39
[22:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Correctly placed the upstream config file.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D39
[22:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ wxl:
[22:49] <wxl> yeah RikMills that's some weird stuff and the triager's attitude about it sucks
[22:49] <guiverc> RikMills, I'll do a full all-program test on Lubuntu (any others I've not caught yet)when I can; thanks Heaps!   
[22:49] <RikMills> guiverc: that would be useful. :)
[22:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING8cb4a6514d09: Correctly placed the upstream config file.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING8cb4a6514d09
[22:53] <wxl> k that's done
[22:53] <wxl> so tomorrow test and assuming everything works close that darn shortcut task already!
[23:26] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Missed the meeting I think cause I'm in central time after the move
[23:27] <lubot> <SamuelBanya> Anything easy to handle task wise or did anyone make a task for the iso tester? I ask since I'd like to pair up with someone to work on it
[23:30] <wxl> @SamuelBanya for this release we're really winding down
[23:30] <wxl> helping with support would be great