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ht3567Bashing-om : Hi. Am back. It didn't work, though   :'(00:13
Svetawhat's the issue? i just joined00:14
sarnoldhey Sveta, after a recent update, rebooting leads to "It keeps blinking purple and black, blank,"00:15
ht3567Sveta: Am unable to boot the system, expect through RECOVERY MODE in GRUB MENU. Exactly the issue as told by sarnold00:16
Bashing-omSveta: ht3567 :: only boots from recovery mode - Intel graphics and driver is available - system updated .00:16
ht3567**except00:16
ht3567Also... Something which might give an idea... If I go to GRUB, Advanced Options, and select normal mode, it displays a black screen with several [Hardware Error] messages, similar to what was being displayed, when I first tried to install LinuxMint by creating a bootable PenDrive.00:20
ht3567I later installed Mint using a pendrive offered by a professional, but switched to Ubuntu because my system specifications were probable too low, to handle Mint00:21
kyle__Is tesseract just broken in 18.04?00:22
kyle__Every attempt I make ot use it gives me: read_params_file: parameter not found: MM00:23
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Bashing-omht3567: While we all cogitate - does a liveUSB of ubuntu boot ?00:24
Bashing-om!info tesseract bionic | kyle__ So what is the App, and where did you get it ?00:26
ubottukyle__ So what is the App, and where did you get it ?: Package tesseract does not exist in bionic00:26
ht3567Bashing-om: I'll actually have to create a new bootable PD... The one I used to Install my current system around a couple of weeks ago is with a cousin, hence not in my possession...!!00:26
Bashing-omht3567: Was but a thought - trying to think of a means where we can get some more info.00:28
ht3567Bashing-om: Heartiest thanks, really. The problem is unfortunate, but a community backing you up with so much of patience, is more than anything I could've asked for.00:31
Bashing-omht3567: Hey it is our community - where all for one and 1 for all :P00:32
Bashing-omht3567: Just racking my brain to come up with a means to gain some useful info.00:33
Bashing-omht3567: Is this a lap top system and were the errors that you saw ACPI related ?00:36
ht3567Bashing-om: It is a laptop system, yeah.00:37
ht3567Bashing-om: I couldn't make any head-or-tail of the errors.00:38
Bashing-omht3567: Try this tutorial to change the DSDT: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html. See then if the errors go away.00:39
kyle__Bashing-om: I got it from apt-get00:41
kyle__apt-get install tesseract-ocr and tesseract-ocr-eng I think were the package names00:42
kyle__Ahh tesseract-ocr-eng tesseract-ocr00:42
kyle__Sorry was afk for a moment.00:42
sarnoldneat00:42
ht3567Bashing-om: Will do. And 'if' that doesn't work, and I create another bootable PenDrive, I remember some option of REPAIR, alongside INSTALL. Will I have to create a backup of personal files stored on my hard disk while attempting repair, too?00:43
ht3567(Just in case other things don't work out)00:43
kyle__I already tried an apt-get install --reinstall, and I cant find any old config files for tesseract in any obvious places.00:44
Bashing-omkyle__: Also need "tesseract-ocr-osd" - is it also installed ?00:45
kyle__Yes00:45
ht3567Bashing-om: I was downloading a ISO image of Ubuntu 18.04, and it's asking me if I wish to start restoring it on my internal Hard Disk. Can that help?00:47
ht3567i.e., will that work like the liveUSB you were telling me of, earlier?00:49
ht3567...00:51
Bashing-omht3567: Hard to say about re-installing if that will help. we do not have enough info to make any judgements at this time.00:51
Svetajust try the live cd without installing it, to test00:52
kyle__I just had the most obvious idea: test it in a docker of 18.04 read_params_file: parameter not found: MM00:52
kyle__Should have thought of that first.00:52
kyle__????00:52
sarnoldkyle__: what did you specify in your param file?00:53
kyle__:/  my paste buffer is not working right..00:53
kyle__sarnold: Nothing.  I did a fresh install, moved my /home over, and reinstalled the packages based on a dump of dpkg --get-selections on my old box00:53
sarnoldkyle__: ah. try writing a params file?00:54
kyle__Does it need a params file?  I haven't called it directly for ages, so I can't recall00:54
ht3567Bashing-om: Sveta:: Will restoring the ISO image on my internal hard disk make the image function as a live CD or USB without modifying the personal files stored, or is there no si=uch thing?00:54
ht3567** such00:55
Bashing-omht3567: the .iso is just a file  - until it it uncompressed to a different medium it just sits there taking up disk space.00:56
sarnoldkyle__: no idea, I've never tried tesseract :) but it says it's trying to read one, you might as well make one and see if it helps :)00:57
ht3567Bashing-om: Okay... I'll grab a pendrive, and see if that helps, and will first try the link you sent. Thanks for your time and insight. :D00:58
kyle__Heh.  Fair point.00:58
kyle__A docker of ubuntu:18.04 exhibits the same behavior I'm seeing on my desktop00:58
Bashing-omht3567: We are here to the end - booting a liveUSB is a good start to the trouble shooting .00:58
kyle__>_<01:03
sarnoldkyle__: did you have any luck with the params file?01:03
kyle__Wow.  I spent plenty of time today fixing long dashes in a powerpoint at work, that it "helpfully" replaced every instance of -- with01:04
sarnoldoh god. em dashes?01:04
kyle__And I didn't think to compare the web-rendered manpage to the console one.01:04
kyle__sarnold: Yeah, I was making a training deck to show how to use openstack.01:05
kyle__And low and behold, the error I'm seeing is what happens when you type -psm and not --psm.  Because I wasn't looking for the misrendered -- as emdash01:06
sarnoldaaarrrggghhh. stupid autocorrect.01:06
kyle__I don't mind autocorrect in a word processor, when it's correcting WORDS, but I hate it correcting punctuation or capitalization.  90% of the time I'm using a word processor it's to wirte technical docs or presentations, and the other 10% is helping my kids with homework.01:07
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sarnoldfighting that kind of stuff was half of what pushed me to latex back in the day..01:11
kyle__Over 90% linux servers at work, but 0% linux desktops.  The closest I could get was a macbook, and that's considered experimental there.01:11
kyle__Which is a long way of saying, office-365 on a mac is as non-windowsy as I can get for making a presentation there :)01:12
miaHello channel01:13
miawhat's the latest supported gnome on 18.04 lts01:13
lotuspsychje!info gnome-shell bionic01:14
ubottugnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.1 (bionic), package size 672 kB, installed size 7415 kB01:14
lotuspsychjemia: ^01:14
miathanks lotuspsychje01:14
hatsunearuhello01:14
hatsunearuso I'm having a butt ton of trouble getting ubuntu working on my new Ryzen 3600 rig (with Vega 56 as my GPU)01:15
hatsunearuI know there's the infamous RDRAND bug, and I heard the workaround for that is to install an old version of ubuntu (i used 18.04) and upgrade to 19.0401:15
hatsunearui did that so I got it booting, but now ive noticed an issue with the suspend functionality01:16
hatsunearuwhen I come back out of suspend the system freezes01:16
hatsunearuCouldn't really pull the log off of it after boot either01:16
hatsunearuanyone have any fixes for this issue? I've seen a workaround that involves disabling P states but that's basically just crippling so much power saving features I don't really see the point01:17
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: for ryzen, we getting several storys & bugs, we have some users sticking on 4.19 kernel, iwould advice playing around with !mainline01:18
lotuspsychje!mainline | hatsunearu01:18
ubottuhatsunearu: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds01:18
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: can you tell us wich kernel you are on now?01:19
hatsunearuuname -a for that info right01:19
Bashing-omhatsunearu: What is the motherboard ? AMD has issued patches for the Ryzen300 series : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-3000-BIOS-Update-Good01:19
hatsunearuMSI b450 gaming ac itx01:19
hatsunearui don't think they have the patch out yet :(01:19
hatsunearui actually don't know if the suspend issue is a symptom of the rdrand issue01:20
hatsunearuLinux HOSTNAME 5.0.0-27-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 20 19:53:07 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux01:20
hatsunearulotuspsychje ^ there you go01:20
lotuspsychjeok tnx01:20
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: maybe for starters, try 4.19 and latest 5.3 or so?01:21
hatsunearuhow do i do that?01:21
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: read the mainline wiki, its described howto01:21
hatsunearuthanks01:21
hatsunearuhmm01:21
hatsunearui have virtualbox installed01:21
hatsunearuis there a list i can pull up to find things to remove?01:22
hatsunearulotuspsychje should i get the newest rc of the newest version01:23
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: the users choice, but sure why not01:23
hatsunearuwhats the difference between:01:25
hatsunearu  linux-headers-5.3.0-050300rc7_5.3.0-050300rc7.201909021831_all.deb01:25
hatsunearu  linux-headers-5.3.0-050300rc7-generic_5.3.0-050300rc7.201909021831_amd64.deb01:25
hatsunearudpkg also complains that the headers package is missing01:25
hatsunearuwait im dumb hold on01:26
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: it worked, when you: sudo update-grub and the kernel showing in your list01:27
hatsunearulotuspsychje which packages do i need to install?01:27
hatsunearuhttps://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.3-rc7/01:27
hatsunearuin here, there's headers, image and modules01:27
hatsunearuall three?01:27
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Choose_the_proper_upstream_kernel_files01:27
OerHeksyes01:27
OerHeksfollow the 'a' selection01:28
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: just not lowlatency01:28
hatsunearuyeah01:28
hatsunearuthanks OerHeks also getting some dependency errors installing the image package01:28
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: did you add external ppa's to your system?01:29
hatsunearuah wait i think i got it01:29
hatsunearualright gonna reboot see you in a bitr01:30
hatsunearufamous last works :P01:30
hatsunearuim back01:33
hatsunearuim back01:33
hatsunearuforgot your name :(01:33
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: wb01:33
hatsunearushould i just go ahead and test the suspend?01:33
hatsunearuhey01:33
hatsunearuuname -a says 5.3001:34
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: yeah, compare your system to your former issues01:34
hatsunearurip, didn't work01:36
hatsunearurip, didn't work01:36
hatsunearucomputer still froze on unsuspend01:36
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: bios up to date?01:37
hatsunearui didn't install the beta bios01:37
hatsunearumaybe i should try that01:37
hatsunearuit just says "improve memory compatibility"01:37
hatsunearui also disabled XMP01:37
hatsunearubrb bios update01:39
hatsunearulotuspsychje, came back with my laptop01:46
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: how goes01:46
hatsunearuupdating bios01:47
hatsunearufingers crossed01:47
lotuspsychje:p01:47
hatsunearualso MSI's software is super chinesium so yeha01:47
hatsunearui've had suspend issues on *windows*01:47
hatsunearuthe network adapter disappears after suspend01:47
hatsunearurip, still doesn't work01:53
hatsunearulotuspsychje, any other ideas?01:53
hatsunearuhow do you get the log anyways? i thought i looked in the "logs" program but idk if that's the best method01:53
lotuspsychje!dmesg | hatsunearu01:53
ubottuhatsunearu: dmesg is a console command which outputs the kernel ring buffer - an important log for diagnosing problems in  Linux. Often when something errors with hardware it will result in additional lines reported which can be seen by running dmesg in a console.01:53
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: you can also while you play, open a: journalctl -f01:54
hatsunearui thought dmesg doesn't show me logs from the "last" boot01:54
hatsunearucause like when i suspend and wake up01:54
hatsunearusystem's dead01:54
hatsunearuoh that's /werid/01:54
hatsunearusystem didn't reboot after the hw reboot button01:54
hatsunearuvery scary01:54
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: whats your graphics card/driver version?01:54
hatsunearuRX Vega 5601:55
hatsunearunot sure how to check drivers. is there a place to install driver01:55
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: stock amdgpu or did you install from amd?01:56
hatsunearudidn't install anything explicitly01:56
lotuspsychjeok01:56
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: can you share your dmesg please? lets have a look whats going on in there01:56
hatsunearulotuspsychje, is there a way of viewing the dmesg from the "last" boot01:57
hatsunearulike before it died01:57
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: lets start with your current dmesg01:57
lotuspsychjeshare here hatsunearu plz, other volunteers always ready to think along with us01:58
hatsunearupastebin.com/SH2iDymK01:59
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: your ryzen machine is a lenovo?02:00
hatsunearuwhat02:00
hatsunearuno?02:00
hatsunearuline number please?02:00
hatsunearui have an old SSD from my lenovo laptop in the desktop02:01
hatsunearuthough the boot drive should be from an nvme m.202:01
lotuspsychjenvm02:01
hatsunearui am on irc on my lenovo laptop :P02:02
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: sudo lshw -C video plz02:05
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hatsunearulotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/JQ0TksJU02:07
lotuspsychjehatsunearu: ok, looks loaded02:08
hatsunearu_ok02:08
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: dmesg showing few amdgpu & iwlwifi issues, but not sure yet whats going on for you02:09
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: we have few bugs with realtek 8169 too doing weird things with system, power related on kernel 5.0 series too02:10
hatsunearu_whats that02:11
hatsunearu_realtek 816902:11
hatsunearu_is that the wifi?02:11
hatsunearu_or is that the ethernet02:11
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: sudo lshw -C network will show you02:11
hatsunearu_oh dang, it is the ethernet :(02:11
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: can you try this kernel lin in your grub: i915.fastboot=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=402:11
lotuspsychje*line02:11
hatsunearu_intel?02:12
hatsunearu_also is that edited by pressing E in the grub menus02:12
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: you can edit /etc/default/grub if you like, then sudo update-grub02:12
hatsunearu_oh i alreayd rebooted :(02:12
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, can i do it in the grub menu02:13
hatsunearu_ahh ill jsut reboot02:13
lotuspsychjesure02:14
hatsunearu_im an idiot02:15
hatsunearu_fogot to update-grub02:15
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, update-grub says i915.fastboot=0 not found02:17
hatsunearu_i put the lines at the bottom of the /etc/default/grub file02:17
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: you added it like this? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.fastboot=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=4"02:18
hatsunearu_yeah oops02:19
hatsunearu_rebootin02:19
hatsunearu_nope :(02:21
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, didn't seem to work02:21
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: ok tnx anyway for testing02:21
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: you can edit back to 'quiet splash' now02:21
lotuspsychjeand sudo update-grub02:22
hatsunearu_what a bummer02:22
hatsunearu_i hate realtek :(02:22
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: 2 more ideas would be kernel 4.19 and !acpi bootlines02:22
Sveta(can you get better hardware?)02:23
lotuspsychje!acpi02:23
ubottuto debug ACPI issues on ubuntu make sure your bios is up to date and follow the procedure here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI02:23
hatsunearu_!acpi bootlines02:23
hatsunearu_ubottu02:23
hatsunearu_nice name02:23
lotuspsychjeyeah he's our friend :p02:23
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, is there a way of grabbing logs right before it dies?\02:27
hatsunearu_cause like my laptop is also having random death issues and i have correlated it with the mobile broadband modem (i'll get to it eventually)02:28
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: think journal has some tricks to dig in the past02:28
hatsunearu_ah mind sharing that journalctl command again02:28
hatsunearu_it died in the firey reboot02:28
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: journalctl -b -1 for example02:29
hatsunearu_last message is "suspending system..."02:30
hatsunearu_hehe02:30
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, did you notice the iwlwifi microcode SW error detected message?02:30
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: maybe take a look in /var/crash too02:30
hatsunearu_empty02:31
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: yeah i saw the iwlwifi issues, we had some reports on that too recently02:31
hatsunearu_is there a way of disabling the wifi and the ethernet meme to isolate it?02:32
hatsunearu_but if it is ethernet... i'm kinda boned. i need ethernet (obviously)02:32
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: this solved the bug, but not sure its related to you right: bug #184268602:33
ubottubug 1842686 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wifi adapter not found after -60" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184268602:33
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hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, is there a workaround02:37
hatsunearu_also can i just disable the PCI device or something like that02:37
hatsunearu_prevent the driver from coming up02:37
hatsunearu_i mean no network but suspend doesn't require internet access02:37
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: you can try blacklisting your wifi module02:38
lotuspsychjeso you only have ethernet02:38
hatsunearu_how would i do that again..02:38
hatsunearu_also how do i make ubuntu turn off the monitors? maybe i won't enjoy the power savings but i at least want the montiors dark so i can sleep02:39
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: edit /etc/modprobe.d./blacklist.conf and blacklist iwlwifi02:39
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, general question: how do i know what device has what drivers loaded02:41
hatsunearu_so if i wanted to disable a random thing where would i look that up02:41
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: lsmod02:42
hatsunearu_ah02:42
hatsunearu_PLEASE02:44
hatsunearu_rip :(02:44
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, i blacklisted r8169 but somehow it got loaded anyways02:48
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: r8169 is your ethernet right?02:48
sarnoldhatsunearu_: turning off monitors is usually xset dpms   -- xset dpms force   should turn off the monitors asap if you don't want to wait02:48
hatsunearu_sarnold, `xset dpms`?02:49
hatsunearu_didn't do anything hmm02:50
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, yes my ethernet02:50
hatsunearu_i still have internet access and r8169 is listed in the lsmod02:50
sarnoldhatsunearu_: if you run xset q  you'll see the current settings02:50
sarnoldhatsunearu_: just run a bare 'xset' to see your options02:50
hatsunearu_oh ok02:51
hatsunearu_it turns off on its own02:51
hatsunearu_i just want a button to do it02:51
sarnoldtry xset dpms force02:53
fribwhen I use the "Test Speakers" button from the settings panel I hear audio, otherwise there is no audio on my system -- what is the issue here? thanks02:54
hatsunearu_sarnold, it says missing argument02:55
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, any ideas on disabling r8169?02:55
hatsunearu_blacklisting02:55
OerHeksfrib, did you install restricted extras?02:55
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: after adding it, did you reboot?02:56
hatsunearu_yeah02:56
sarnoldhatsunearu_: sorry, xset dpms force off   , xset dpms force standby, etc. whatever works02:56
hatsunearu_ah oka02:56
fribOerHeks, no, it seems this started since I used my HDMI port for the first time in a long time a few days ago, but I haven't really noticed it02:56
sarnoldhatsunearu_: try several, not all work on my monitor02:57
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: maybe if you got bios option, turn off there02:57
hatsunearu_dont think there was02:57
OerHeksfrib, any more information that we should be aware of?02:57
hatsunearu_sarnold, worked, thanks!02:57
fribOerHeks, I really don't even know if that is related. I have no idea why this happened02:57
sarnoldwoot :)02:57
fribOerHeks, even when I change the volume from the settings panel it used to make those popping sounds, but it doesn't anymore -- *only* test speakers works02:58
hatsunearu_yeah hmm that's weird02:58
hatsunearu_i can't blacklist02:58
hatsunearu_ok, got the blacklist working03:01
hatsunearu_dang. still doesn't work03:01
hatsunearu_so much for that theory03:01
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, what's significant about 4.19?03:02
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: well i hear good things about ryzen and 4.19, doing what its suppose to be03:02
hatsunearu_oh03:02
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: cant harm to test right03:02
hatsunearu_if it works, then does that mean i have to be on an old kernel? :(03:03
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: well lets test things first03:03
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: one of our volunteers runs gentoo with 4.1903:03
hatsunearu_ok03:04
hatsunearu_do i download from 4.19 or 4.19.6903:04
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: try plain 4.19 for start yeah03:04
hatsunearu_oh shit03:06
hatsunearu_i installed .6903:06
hatsunearu_ah well ill test that03:06
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: try anyway03:06
hatsunearu_lol it worked03:08
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, now what :(03:08
lotuspsychjewhat worked03:08
hatsunearu_4.19.6903:08
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: you mean it fixxed your suspend?03:08
hatsunearu_yup03:08
lotuspsychjelol jeez03:08
hatsunearu_am i stuck in 4land then?03:08
hatsunearu_what happened between 4.19.69 and 5?03:08
hatsunearu_is it the spectre etc mitigations03:09
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: well surely file a bug for 5.0 -27 right03:09
hatsunearu_oh shit03:09
hatsunearu_i get to be a bug reporter?03:09
* hatsunearu_ gets the big boy pants03:09
lotuspsychjeplz no swear in main support :p03:09
hatsunearu_sorry :303:09
hatsunearu_also03:09
hatsunearu_i want to isolate if it's amdgpu03:09
hatsunearu_but i can't, because there's no onboard graphics03:10
hatsunearu_shucks03:10
sarnoldpants?03:10
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: let the devs search for it, ubuntu-bug linux from 5.0 -2703:10
hatsunearu_so uh03:10
hatsunearu_what should i do03:10
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: what i say, bug it03:11
hatsunearu_i dont know how lol :|03:11
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: just said it, boot into -27 and from terminal: ubuntu-bug linux03:11
hatsunearu_i'm not sure what details i need to include03:11
hatsunearu_oh,03:11
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: got a launchpad account?03:11
hatsunearu_ill make one03:12
lotuspsychjecool03:12
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: ubuntu-bug will drag all your info the the bug, you just add a title and describe your full story, mentioning your kernel tests and 4.19 fix03:14
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: and tnx for helping out the community ok03:14
hatsunearu_well idk if i'm helping out lol03:15
lotuspsychjeyou are03:15
hatsunearu_i just have bad experiences with filing bug reports03:15
hatsunearu_shit gets ignored and sometimes i get humiliated :(03:15
hatsunearu_oh i swore again sorry03:16
hatsunearu_hmm03:17
hatsunearu_i swore and Obscenity walks in03:17
hatsunearu_lotuspsychje, submitted! hopefully it gets fixed soon :D03:24
hatsunearu_can i delete the 5.3 rc7?03:24
mallu0987I have a couple of ubuntu18.04 servers running on VMware. One of the servers is loosing DHCP lease every 3 hours. Is there anything on the server I can check to see what is causing this server to loose DHCP lease?03:26
OerHeksboot back in the old kernel, and remove 5.303:26
hatsunearu_hopefully i did it right03:26
hatsunearu_OerHeks, actually which tool do i need to uninstall?03:26
fribOerHeks, is there any hope of fixing the problem?03:28
OerHekseasy would be terminal, just page up, and edit the apt command install \ > remove03:28
hatsunearu_i used dpkg to install though03:29
hatsunearu_ah used apt to remove ty03:29
hatsunearu_now i wait, i guess03:30
OerHeksfrib, what if you openend terminal: alsamixer # and select with F6 device, does hdmi work? and fiddle around with the sliders, some might be at 003:33
fribOerHeks, is there a gui version of this?03:36
fribmy F6 key is out of service03:36
OerHeksjust the sound menu, should work too?03:36
OerHeksinteresting you come up with a broken F603:37
fribOerHeks, it's not broken physically but it has one of those function features03:39
friband it only does that special function, not "F6"03:40
JimBuntuok, try Function F603:40
fribJimBuntu, I did03:40
JimBuntuhrm frib , sounds like the keyboard isn't using standard key mapping03:40
fribJimBuntu, I'm using fluxbox03:41
OerHeksoh, not a standard de ..03:41
OerHeksmaybe it is a flucbox sound issue, dunno03:41
fribI've been using fluxbox for like 5 years03:41
JimBuntufrib, please re-iterate the issue. Last I saw you have audio when you use the test audio feature, but otherwise no. Would probably help others03:45
fribJimBuntu, the only audio that works on my system currently is when I click "Test Speakers"03:46
fribit says "Front Left, Front Right"03:47
fribmaybe some other audio works that I dont' know of, but as of right now that's all I know works03:47
JimBuntuThat is so odd frib, I don't think I can help, but hope someone else can. Which version of ubuntu?03:47
frib18.04 -- I know it's odd believe me lol03:48
JimBuntuI believe it!  So, 18.04 Ubuntu, audio only plays when using the test audio feature. Anyone can help? suggestions or questions?03:48
chietai tried set daily cron job for starting the skypeforlinux @8:30 but no luck04:01
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: thank you for taking your time to file bug 184278504:15
ubottubug 1842785 in linux (Ubuntu) "Freeze after waking up from suspend on a Ryzen 3000 based system" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184278504:15
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: the devs will help you now, if you need help about the bisecting, please join #ubuntu-kernel04:16
hatsunearu_gotta sleep soon, but i'll tkae a look tomorrow04:17
hatsunearu_i also have a concussion so it's a little hard to think :(04:17
lotuspsychjeok tnx again for filing it gabmus[m]04:17
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_04:17
hatsunearu_no problem04:17
hatsunearu_thanks for helping me04:17
lotuspsychjewelcome04:17
hatsunearu_wait what's a kernel bisection04:17
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: bisecting kernel, means tracing wich commit is causing the trouble in the kernel04:18
hatsunearu_is it just a search of which kernel version causes the issue?04:18
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: no, its a method of debugging the commits in the kernel04:19
hatsunearu_wait do i need to get down to which git commit caused the issue?04:19
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: there are tools to do it for you, but yes its a bit tracing04:20
hatsunearu_oof sounds like a lot of work04:20
lotuspsychjeyes04:20
hatsunearu_is kaiheng feng asking me to do a version bisect or a commit bisect?04:20
hatsunearu_well i guess this is the fair price to pay to get it fixed :P04:21
lotuspsychjehatsunearu_: kai is the dev yeah, but i suggest you go ask in #ubuntu-kernel for a howto04:22
hatsunearu_okay04:22
hatsunearu_ill probably come back later though04:22
hatsunearu_thanks!04:22
lotuspsychjegreat!04:22
comronHi all, Is there a place to find out status on archive.ubuntu.com and mirrors, we've been experiencing packet loss and high latency when installing packages today.06:40
eoli3nHi06:42
eoli3nwhy TF useradd asks for "current password" mais creating a new user with root ?06:42
eoli3ns/mais/when06:42
OerHekscomron, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors06:43
OerHekswhat mirror exactly?06:43
comrontraceroute to archive.ubuntu.com gives the following results:06:45
comron  2.|-- secondary.danava.canonica  5.0%    20  501.6 1142. 252.0 7037. 1581.006:45
comronso an average latency of 1142ms06:45
comronI tried us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com and got average latency of 486.6ms06:45
OerHeksec2 ? cloud mirror?06:46
comronnot sure if this is a good metric to use, but we were seeing small 20Mb packages take 200+s to install via apt-get06:46
comronyes I tried an aws mirror to see if it was a networking issue for us. I can try one of the other listed mirrors06:47
eoli3narchlinux -> http://ix.io/1Uk506:54
eoli3nubuntu 18.04 -> http://ix.io/1Uk406:55
eoli3nwhat is that "current password"06:55
OerHekswe believe in adduser, not useradd though it might lokk/feel the same?06:58
comronit looks like its the hop '99.82.179.9' in my route to archive.ubuntu.com is the problem. Two of the other mirrors I tried from the list seem fine, oddly the aws mirror is just as bad even from inside aws06:59
eoli3nOerHeks: same problem with adduser06:59
eoli3nOerHeks: with adduser (which use passwd)07:00
eoli3nhttp://ix.io/1Uk607:00
eoli3nnobody?07:03
eoli3nfix : needed to remove '!' from /etc/shadow, then "passwd account" : current password : ""07:06
eoli3nclap clap clap ubuntu... again07:06
OerHeksnow make sure you are member of audio and video..07:07
OerHekshttps://dej.in.ua/ubuntu-server-16-04-kiosk-mode/07:07
mahdi_jahi all07:27
mahdi_jai have a problem when i working in desktop07:28
grokehi mahdi_ja just ask the question¨07:28
mahdi_jain desktop when i do operation such as coping,compressing no any progress bar shown07:28
mahdi_jaand i can not see any thing for determine finishing operation07:29
grokeusing nautilius mahdi_ja?07:30
grokemaybe this will help, mahdi_ja https://askubuntu.com/questions/1019330/no-progress-bar-when-copying-files-with-newer-versions-of-nautilus-ubuntu-17-1007:32
OerHeksi see a progress thingy while copying in nautilus, it is round on the panel07:33
mahdi_jagroke, i know it but in desktop not any progress shown07:35
grokemahdi_ja: one of the commenters in the link said the same thing, so it might be a bug/missing feature in the application07:36
OerHeksthat 17.10 info is old07:36
OerHeks18.04/gnome gives progress07:36
grokei see07:37
grokehe didn't say which version he is running07:38
OerHeksbtw the post of 26 mar 8 gives the same answer with screenshot07:39
mahdi_jagroke, i use ubuntu 18.04 and when you click super+d key and see deskop and do operation in this windows not nautilus you can not see any porgress bar07:41
OerHeksthat is correct. progressbar is in nautilus.07:42
OerHekssolved!07:42
grokehm yes07:44
grokeif u like progress bars, it's best to use nautilius07:45
mahdi_jathis means i see progress bar only and only in nautilus07:46
grokemahdi_ja: ubuntu probably hasn't implemented progress bar for desktop file operations then07:50
hewhomustHi, I'm giving away invites to animebytes and morethantv. DM me a screenshot of any other private tracker if you want one.08:39
legreffierhewhomust: this is not the place.08:40
cluelesspersonis there software for mounting a nfs or similar share and encrypting it client side?09:19
Habbiecluelessperson, encfs perhaps09:20
tekisuihello09:26
tekisuiwhat is a good ubuntu version for a 1000 ghz laptop ??09:26
cluelesspersontekisui  lubuntu09:27
cluelesspersonlight ubuntu basically09:27
tekisuiah i had that09:27
tekisuiit got verry complicated :D09:27
cluelesspersondebian09:28
cluelesspersonknoppix09:28
tekisuiredhat ?09:28
tekisuiis that good system09:28
OerHekscluelessperson, don't suggest that in here, thanks. just keep it by ubuntu09:28
tekisuiwell i like to stick to ubuntu09:28
OerHeks!flavors09:28
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours09:28
cluelesspersonOerHeks why?09:28
OerHekscluelessperson, you know the channel rules, behave..09:29
tekisuiubuntu got to heavy for me skatje09:29
tekisui:well goodday i think will go back to 12 or so09:29
OerHekslubuntu, mate, maybe xubuntu ..09:30
cluelesspersonOerHeks and which rule am I breaking?09:31
OerHeksjust don't suggest other distros than ubuntu, likely?09:32
vadiquehi there09:49
vadiquemy provider suxx, I need to use vpn for p2p traffic09:49
vadiquehow can I achieve that in ubuntu09:49
OerHekschoose a vpn provider, and .. https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-vpn-connect.html.en09:51
vadiqueOerHeks, some free vpn from open lists, and only for p2p10:00
OerHeksvadique, choosing vpn provider is beyond the scope of this channel, sorry i cannot help you with that10:03
OerHeks"free" is not always free and save, just saying10:04
mysticjib jib10:29
zambawhat is the best way of setting up a redundant sftp server?10:35
zambapreferably also with load balancing10:35
zambashared storage and then also some authentication service that's running alongside?10:35
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darutokoubuntu 19.04 every thing but sound freezes while watching video (vlc and twitch), is there a way to find the source of a problem?10:48
Xatenevhello10:55
Xatenevin my IDE i use "fira code" font, how can i make that font available in my terminal emulator?10:56
XatenevI use the ubuntu default one10:56
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jarnosbash is taking 100% cpu according to top.11:17
BluesKajHey folks11:21
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jarnosSee her for possible related PIDs https://pasteboard.co/IvZyHCt.png11:22
jarnosWhat is wrong?11:22
jarnosIs it safe to kill the process of bash?11:23
foxinessjarnos: i think it will reload it self after the kill11:31
mysticim sticking with ubuntu...  all other os's have some wierd jerky stuff that doesnt work or is hard to install/use11:33
foxinessmystic: how long ur using ubunut?11:33
mysticoff and on for a few years..  fianlly able to use it well on ubuntu 18..  terminal becomes less needed.. and it generally works easy and smooth11:34
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pomehahello, what does `pkill -0` do?12:35
golden_ticketCan anyone help me figure out how to write iptables rules such that all tcp traffic is router through a local proxy?12:36
OerHekspomeha, without application name, nothing? -o Select only the oldest (least recently started) of the matching processes.12:37
lotuspsychje!firewall | golden_ticket12:37
ubottugolden_ticket: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo12:37
lotuspsychjegolden_ticket: see also the #netfilter channel12:37
golden_ticketthanks12:37
niko1990hello everyone12:37
lotuspsychjewelcome niko199012:37
niko1990I have a quick question: my ssd of my computer is getting too small for me, so I bought a new one. Is there a way to copy the complete old hdd to the new one - even though the new one is bigger - so that I don't have to install ubuntu and everything new?12:39
pomehaOerHeks: it's not even -o, it's -0 (zero)12:39
golden_ticketniko1990, I believe you can image your disk and copy it over to the new hdd but idk about resizing and such12:40
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OerHekspomeha, the manual gives no clue, where did you find that command?12:43
ioriapomeha,  sending the signal 0 to a given PID just checks if any process with the given PID is running and you have the permission to send a signal to it.12:43
OerHekswithout applicationname*12:43
niko1990golden_ticket: thank you12:45
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DArqueBishopHey guys, I have an odd issue. I'm running Ubuntu 19.04 as a VirtualBox VM on a Windows 10 host. Whenever the screen locks, three of my snap apps (Discord, Riot, and Signal) close down completely. Weirdly, it's not all snap apps, as HexChat continues to run. I'm not having any luck finding a solution; anyone have any ideas?14:12
deadromhi14:26
deadrom16.04LTS on intel NUC, worked a charm over at least a year. now: every couple boots the cable keyb/mouse light their blinkenlights, go dead.14:27
deadromsometimes mouse stays14:27
deadromsyslog oes not say anything about "USB disconnects"14:27
deadrom*does14:27
deadromsome standard HP keyboard. could it be affected by power management?14:28
lotuspsychjedeadrom: wich nuc is this please14:30
lotuspsychjedeadrom: kernel version could be also interesting14:32
deadromlotuspsychje: 4.15.0-60-generic #67~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 26 08:57:33 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux14:34
deadrom"which NUC", any way to tell remotely?14:35
lotuspsychjedeadrom: if you have inxi installed, inxi -F14:35
deadromcan install, moment14:35
deadromlotuspsychje: NUC5i3MYBE14:36
lotuspsychjedeadrom: ok tnx, i noticed some weird mouse behaviour on my NUC i7 too have to click several times to open something, or sometimes 2 windows jump open after 1 click14:37
lotuspsychjedeadrom: do you recognize somethign similar?14:37
lotuspsychjedeadrom: but im on 18.04.3 and kernel 5.0 -2714:38
deadromlotuspsychje: not really. keyboard dies, mostly, and that's it14:38
deadromhuh? 18.04 changed kernel series mid-distro?14:39
OerHeksas of 18.04.2 a fresh install gets kernel 5.x like !hwe14:40
OerHeks!hwe14:40
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack14:40
deadrombut updating from 18.04(.1) stays with the 4 series?14:41
OerHeksdeadrom, yes.14:41
lotuspsychjedeadrom: maybe you can try to boot a previous kernel as a test?14:41
OerHeksbut you can also trigger hwe, see the wiki14:41
lotuspsychjedeadrom: also doublecheck the recent NUC firmware updates, critical security issues14:42
lotuspsychjedeadrom: inxi -F or dmesg will show your bios version14:42
deadromkeyboards sits in a drawer... maybe it's as easy as a bad cable, who knows... NUC FW will check14:43
deadromfar newer BIOS available... but one cannot update from within linux, right?14:46
lotuspsychjedeadrom: no, but the nuc firmwares are pretty nice to update, put the file on a stick and load it from the bios14:46
deadromlotuspsychje: "put on stick and load from bios" even at 2019 bios user friendlyness is waaaaay past what I can talk the owner through on the phone. guess I'll have to drive over. bring a spare keyb on the occasion..14:47
lotuspsychjedeadrom: there is fwupdate, but i doubt NUCS are in the database14:51
deadromdrive over. no shenanigans :)14:51
deadromsomething else: while at I'm a doing a syscheck and smartctl tells me "179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot   0x0013   100   001   010    Pre-fail  Always   In_the_past 0"14:53
deadrom5 realloc'_sector_ct is at 0 though. samsung 840 ssd, 6 TB written, 4800 power on hours14:53
deadromwhat is attribute 179 and how do I assess that?14:54
lotuspsychjedeadrom: did you firmware update your 840 too at plugin in your computer?14:54
deadromlotuspsychje: no14:56
lotuspsychjedeadrom: there's a critical performance patch for the 840 evo's14:56
deadromno perf issues. just curious about this attribute.14:57
deadromit's not an evo, if that's a relevant, "just" 84014:58
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grobda24Hi. I've searched high and low but I can't see an up to date PPA for MPD (Music Player Daemon). I always manage to find one of the version in UIbuntu repositories is a bit outdated. MPD seems popular so I'm surprised. Does anyone know of an up to date PPA ? Cheers.15:26
grobda24if*15:27
BluesKajgrobda24, what's your issue with the default mpd?15:28
JonelethIrenicusso does ubuntu not have monitor specific scaling?15:44
becoolnames15:52
grobda24BluesKaj: Default MPD in Ubuntu repositories is old (21.4 Jan 2019). I would prefer a way that auto updates such as PPA. Is there really is nothing then I can build it.15:54
ioriagrobda24, correct me; stable is still  the build of 29-Oct-2018 22:4115:57
JonelethIrenicusso anyone know if ubuntu works with the dell d6000 dock??16:18
becoolJonelethIrenicus: that would be a driver thing. have you checked to see if it's included in the kernel?16:19
JonelethIrenicusbecool: not sure many things work out of the box but two displays aren't working16:19
JonelethIrenicusim building the displaylink driver now16:19
letterriphi all, I'm trying to diagnose cause of my slow boot times - I've elimiated many of them; but systemd-analyze critical-chain shows that NetworkManager.service @13.846s +14.830s16:19
letterripany suggestions?16:20
JonelethIrenicusits stuck on "Building EVDI kernel module with DKMS"16:20
lotuspsychjeletterrip: ubuntu version and kernel please16:20
JonelethIrenicusit doesn't give an indicator as to how long it will take16:20
becoolletterrip: you using dhcp?16:21
letterripbecool - not sure16:21
becoolletterrip: what's the output of 'ip a'?16:22
becoolpossible network negotiation is having issues16:22
becooleither that or a persistent mount in fstab is having issues16:22
letterriplotuspsychje, looking ... 5.2.0-15-generic Ubuntu eoan (upgraded to see if it would help)16:22
OerHeksletterrip, if that network is wireless, sounds oke16:23
lotuspsychjeletterrip: 19.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please16:23
letterriplotuspsychje, oops - thanks16:23
letterripOerHeks, ah - when googling around was seeing times of 500 ms or so16:30
becoolletterrip: try doing an ifdown and ifup on your wireless interface16:30
becoolsee how long it takes16:30
becoolif it takes a while then you know dhcp negotiation is the issue16:30
lotuspsychjebecool: join #ubuntu+1 if you want to assist him please16:31
becoollotuspsychje: what's that?16:31
lotuspsychjebecool: the support channel for 19.1016:32
becooloh didn't know they were using 19.1016:32
letterripbecool - thanks for help - have switched to ubuntu+1 channel...16:32
becoolyw16:33
markus_e92Hello, does anyone know how to automatically decrypt a luks root partition on system startup? I've found tutorials on clevis+tpm2, but ubuntu 18.04 uses a too old version of clevis, that doesn't support tpm2.16:35
becoolmarkus_e92: do you already have a random key file available?16:37
becoolyou'll have to create a mapper that can be referenced in fstab16:38
JonelethIrenicushow can i switch to the open source driver?16:41
mattmbis there known issues with archive.ubuntu.com?16:49
mattmbwe're seeing bad performance running tests etc.16:49
JonelethIrenicusso dell d6000 doesn't work on ubuntu16:51
JonelethIrenicusand per monitor scaling doesn't work either16:52
JonelethIrenicuseven with open drivers16:52
JonelethIrenicusso sad16:53
JonelethIrenicuswill have to use windows16:53
brimestoneHey guys, I have a server running ubuntu 14 and I would like to create an image of it.. Can I use DD on a live server? doing it via Live CD isn't ideal for me17:17
becoolbrimestone: you should be able to. why not use rsync instead?17:19
ctjctjHello, I'm pretty good with the command line, but I'm looking for a find command or series of find commands that will find a file named 'config' within a directory named '.git'  Right now it looks something like 'find . -type f -name config | egrep '/.git/config$' | ...17:19
brimestonebecool, use rsync to image the system?17:19
becoolyep17:21
becoolcan do the whole thing to an iso17:21
brimestoneintestering..17:21
lordcirth_ctjctj, find . -path '.git/config'17:22
becoolfor example, something like 'sudo rsync -avz /dev/sdc1 /mnt/backups/backup.iso'17:22
becoolif course you'll have to modify it to match your volume and output path17:23
ctjctjlordcirth_, I hereby claim that I do know how to read a man page.  And throw myself on the mercy of the court for not reading and find the path option myself.17:23
lordcirth_ctjctj, you are pardoned :P17:24
becoolbrimestone: or 'sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /mnt'17:24
brimestoneThanks17:27
becoolyw17:28
brimestoneTrying this now17:28
a90cis there any vpn tool supported by ubuntun in the repository?17:41
becoolopenvpn17:41
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a90cbecool thanks sorry i mean as service17:42
a90cLike nordvpn17:42
becoolcan try searching the repo 'apt-cache search vpn'17:43
a90cok17:43
saormullvad > nord17:48
kreyrenwhich package on ubuntu provides /usr/include/mysql on ubuntu 19.04 ?17:49
a90csaor: are you using it?17:52
saoryep17:52
a90cDoes it allow streaming?17:52
a90ci mean udp ports are open?17:53
saorlike nordvpn it depends on the server17:54
a90ci hope i can find a promotion code for a month.17:55
a90ci need to try it17:55
JimBuntukreyren, mysql provides the directory /usr/include/mysql17:58
JimBuntuperhaps you are looking for a mysql-client-x.x.x package, kreyren18:00
ph88hey guys, in my sound settings only my laptop speakers show up while i have a bluetooth speaker connected and also there should go sound over a HDMI cable ... how can i see the other sound output devices like i saw before ??18:14
cyberylhello18:17
sarnoldhello cyberyl18:20
JimBuntuph88, which OS version ( guessing 18.04, but who knows, lol ) also, in what settings? As in, do you mean the default GUI settings?  ( asking for a friend )18:24
ph88when i install the pulseaudio volume control GUI it shows the hdmi as unplugged and the bluetooth device is not shown at all18:26
JimBuntuph88, Monitor model please. It may not ( yet? ) be supported.18:27
ph88it's a laptop18:27
JimBuntuYes, but ph88 , the laptop would not be trying to send audio over HDMI, normally, if not connected to an external.18:28
JimBuntuhence, "unplugged". Meanwhile, are you connected to a Bluetooth device while viewing the settings, as it would also not show up when not connected.18:30
ph88it's a benq television .. an old model18:31
ph88i also have a bluetooth speaker, but it doesn't show up as sound device18:31
ph88to have either one of them working would be fine for now ... i think i will reinstall to 19.10 soon ... been stuck on this LTS for too long imo18:31
ph88hum let me try to reconnect that bluetooth speaker then18:32
ph88i exited the sound menu, connected the bluetooth device, went back to the sound menu. Now i still don't see it as output device18:33
molinothi18:42
sazawalHi all. I have an old laptop hard disk. It could be defected but currently I can access the files. I want to format the whole disk using gparted but it is stuck at "Searching for /dev/sdb partitions". Does it mean that the hard disk is defected?18:51
zakihello18:51
sarnoldsazawal: do you see any messages in dmesg that might suggest IO errors?18:51
sarnoldhello zaki18:51
ioriasazawal, dmesg | grep ata[0-9]18:52
zakican't change Grub Resolution, I tried many way , always it change back default resolution which is 1024/76818:53
zakiUbuntu 18.04.318:53
sazawalioria, I am not getting any output with that command.18:53
ioriasazawal, weird18:54
sazawalioria, Maybe because I connected it via usb to the laptop18:54
ioriasazawal, maybe18:54
sazawali have an external casing for it18:54
sazawalsarnold, I see these red lines in dmesg:18:55
sazawal[19929.480242] print_req_error: critical medium error, dev sdb, sector 7107762 flags 018:55
sazawal[19929.480260] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb2, logical block 6388914, async page read18:55
sarnoldalmost certainly this drive is dying.18:55
sarnoldmaybe it's just the usb controller, but it's probably the drive18:55
sazawalI see18:56
sazawalNo i have used the usb controller with other disks and it works ok.18:56
ioriasazawal, run a fsck on sdb18:56
sarnoldI suggest *not* running a fsck on this drive18:59
sarnoldyou know the drive is bad18:59
sarnolddo not do anything more with it18:59
sarnoldonce you have the replacement drive, rsync everything off of it and then wipe it, recycle it19:00
ioriait makes no harm19:00
sarnoldit might19:00
sazawalsarnold, Why not?19:05
sarnoldsazawal: fsck may try to rewrite data structures on failed sections of the drive; it may try to move data or metadata; it might make things worse in the attempt19:07
ioriaonly if you say 'y'19:07
sazawalsarnold, I dont have any useful data on the disk. I thought originally that I will format it and then check the health. And use it if it is healthy19:08
sazawalBy the way there is one partition where windows is installed. Do you think that is causing a problem?19:09
sarnoldioria: and how would a user know to say y or n? :)19:09
ioriaif it finds errors , well, you know19:09
sarnoldsazawal: no, that message is indicating a hardware flaw of some sort; windows or linux or whatever on the drive owuldn't make a difference :)19:10
sarnoldyou can try to run badblocks on the drive to see just how bad it is19:10
sazawalsarnold, sorry how do I run badblocks on it?19:10
ioriafsck  -N Don't execute, just show what would be done19:12
sarnoldsazawal: badblocks /dev/sdb should do it19:12
sarnoldioria: alright, that sounds fine19:12
sazawalsarnold, It gave me a list of numbers, and still running19:22
sarnoldsazawal: good thing you don't care about the data on this drive :)19:22
sazawalsarnold, lol19:24
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viranHey, using dd if=/dev/normal_device of=/dev/mapper/luks_device will result in an encrypted duplicate?19:49
bhibbHmm, only done it a handful of times, but I think you need to pass some kind of argument in order to result in an encrypted image, if it's possible. Simply using the "if" and "of" will disrespect the encryption laid down beforehand IIRC.19:51
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leftyfbyeah, that didn't seem to work19:54
leftyfb_raw_params: cp -ax /{bin,etc,mnt,sbin,lib,lib64} /tmp/tmproot/ cp -ax /usr/{bin,sbin,lib} /tmp/tmproot/usr/ cp -ax /var/{lib,local,lock,opt,run,spool,tmp} /tmp/tmproot/var/19:54
leftyfbhttps://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/JKxvJByBxP/19:54
bhibbFrom what I'm reading, it appears that dd is too low-level to care about encryption and simply copies byte for byte.19:54
leftyfboops19:54
leftyfbwrong channel19:54
viranbhibb: I think since luks is working at kernel level (correct me if im wrong) every write() to the fs is getting encryted... will try to verify by mounting without luks19:56
bhibbviran: I'll be curious to see your test results.19:59
JimBuntuThat's an unusual password leftyfb ;p ( k, done ) back to offtopic20:05
multifractalI'm getting an error that the "device not ready" for WIFI. It's a fresh install of 16.04 on a Dell 9370.20:08
JohnDoe2hey guys, is there a way to disable xfce from automatically starting on display :0 but still have it start on :1 (vnc) ? If I add "3" to boot options I think that will prevent xfce services from loading at all20:09
bhibbmultifractal: Do you have the option to plug in your Dell to apt update before continuing?20:10
multifractalyes i already did `apt update` and `apt install --reinstall linux-firmware` because I saw that suggestion on askubuntu20:10
bhibbmultifractal: Did it recommend a reboot for the firmware to take effect?20:11
multifractalno but i did reboot regardless20:11
bhibbmultifractal: Another strange question: have you run upgrade as well?20:13
bhibbmultifractal: In my experience, my WIFI issues have been resolved by making sure the iwan was enabled, that a service was running, and that it was set as my default in config, but that experience is in a fresh install of Arch.20:14
cwaynemultifractal: is there any particular reason to use 16.04 instead of 18.04?20:15
multifractalno i just only have a 16.04 stick I was going to upgrade once it was installed20:16
bhibbmultifractal: perhaps it will resolve itself if you update to 18.04 with the ethernet connection?20:17
multifractali'll try that20:18
TJ-multifractal: what's the issue? wireless LAN device not appearing?20:21
croradhey, i just installed ubuntu on a new HDD so i can run it parallel to windows20:22
croradany suggestions on what I do with it? Didn't really have much in mind, just wanted to mess around20:22
EloquenceHi there! Are there known performance issues with archive.ubuntu.com currently? Is there a status page somewhere?20:24
sarnoldEloquence: I can browse around fine, but maybe that's just the IP I hit... what are you seeing?20:25
JonelethIrenicusso what should i do if i wanna run ubuntu but need a dock?20:30
JonelethIrenicusany docks that support linux?20:30
JonelethIrenicusneed a dock like the dell d600020:30
sarnoldI hadn't heard of docks causing issues in a few decades, are they still problems?20:32
bhibbPeripherals are generally pretty easy with Ubuntu. If you've got it, someone else probably had it before you did.20:33
JonelethIrenicusbhibb: i have the dell d6000 and it has 3 display ports, only 1 display port works20:34
JonelethIrenicusbhibb: i read the display link driver requirements and I am meeting them uninstalled the nvidia closed source drivers and installed the open source versions and it still didn't work20:35
TJ-JonelethIrenicus: how many Outputs does the GPU find and report?20:35
aroonihey team; i have ubuntu 18.04 running on a lenovo t420.  i CANNOT get suspend to work to save my life and its quite annoying.  often when resuming i see the clock frozen at the time i suspended and mouse and keyboard input is completely frozen; can't switch to a tty and have to restart.  i have 12gb of ram and 12.05gb of swap. i've tried various things including different kernel versions all without results.20:35
arooniideas?20:35
JonelethIrenicusonly the builtin display on the laptop and one connected to the dock20:35
bhibbJonelethIrenicus: that's regrettable :[20:36
JonelethIrenicusyeah sucks20:36
JonelethIrenicusbhibb: now i gotta use windows20:36
bhibbJonelethIrenicus: What version of Ubuntu are you using? And it sounds like you have a discreet graphics card, yeah?20:37
n-iCehi20:39
TJ-JonelethIrenicus: this might give you some clues https://phpboyscout.uk/dell-displaylink-d6000-ubuntu-18-04-issues/20:39
JonelethIrenicus19.0420:39
JonelethIrenicusbhibb: it is a dell xps 15 957020:39
JonelethIrenicuseverything works on it but the fingerprint sensor20:39
TJ-arooni: ACPI most likely20:39
bhibbarooni: What Desktop Environment are you using? I've had that issue with my ThinkPad on XFCE and KDE.20:40
TJ-arooni: does the system have the acpi_osi workaround in place?20:40
arooniTJ-: bhibb :  gnome afaik ; not sure how to check;  i did try updating BIOS to latest version and putting a few strings in GRUB too20:40
TJ-arooni: check out my article: https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html20:41
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arooniTJ-:you are a life saver.   this is what i had in my /etc/default/grub today: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2009\""20:42
Habbiei have acpi_osi=Linux because it fixed a bunch of issues20:43
Habbiebut i should look into this some more20:43
Habbiearooni, acp_osi=! is a typo, right?20:44
arooniwell my suspend/resume is awful so i should look into what i have written there20:44
Habbiei do not have working resume today (Debian Buster)20:44
aroonii dont think so Habbie ; at least in TJ- 's article it mentions: "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"""20:45
Habbieoh sorry20:45
HabbieTJ-, acp_osi=! is a typo, right?20:45
TJ-Habbie: no, nothing is a typo20:45
Habbieok..20:45
TJ-arooni: don't try the values I give as examples, it is ESSENTIAL you discover the correct value for your PC using the commands I give20:45
arooniTJ-: ok i won't skip ahead :P20:46
arooniman if suspend/resume worked on this; it would make me love ubuntu so much more.  its the only annoying part right now20:46
TJ-arooni: every PC has it's own set of recognised values so you have to identify the value that seems most recent from your PC's own ACPI DSDT20:46
TJ-arooni: so "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | sort" will list them, hopefully with the most likely last, which is the one you should use20:47
* arooni is running that now20:47
aroonihttps://gist.github.com/arooni/14d0a37e2109c4217d09ef5fd2fe88fe20:48
dbuggerI have sort of a "complicated" configuration here, and I was hoping maybe you can help me.... I want to play with PS4 remote play in my computer. Ubuntu will not support that (I have already search everywhere, and it is unanimous that wont work). So I installed VirtualBox with W10 and everything I need to use Remote Play. But apparently the PS4 controller is not being "forwarded" to the virtual machine, so I cannot control my20:48
dbuggerconsole. Does anyone know what I could do to solve this?20:48
arooniinteresting; that 2009 i had wasnt even part of that list20:48
TJ-arooni: so "Windows 2012" would look likely to be your best choice20:48
dbugger(and yes, my controller does work. I have run games natively in Ubuntu and I can use the controller in them)20:48
arooniTJ-: so i could try that one; and if it didnt work; try the next last and so on?  and id only know after restarting right?20:49
aroonisince its affecting grub / startup right?20:49
TJ-arooni: so you can change that easily, with "sudo sed -i 's/2009/2012/' /etc/default/grub" and then do "sudo update-grub"20:49
arooniare changes immediate?  or would i need to restart first?  i promise i will also read this article you sent me too :P20:50
TJ-arooni: the most recent (Version of Windows) is almost always the best because it enables the most functionality20:50
Habbiearooni, grub changes always need a reboot20:50
arooniinteresting; so its superior to putting linux20:50
TJ-arooni: needs a restart; you're altering the kernel configuration20:50
arooniTJ-: would me running 5.0.5 version of the kernel screw anything up?20:50
aroonii only picked a different default version b/c i was trying to make suspend/resume work20:51
TJ-arooni: MUCH superior, "linux" will only work if the PC's ACPI DSDT tries to match on "linux" string, which almost none do, and when they do, don't enable all functionality20:51
aroonioh i'm on 5.1.3 apparently20:51
TJ-arooni: no... generally the more recent the kernel the better chance of it working well20:51
arooniah neato.20:51
aroonididnt know if there was a drawback to moving up kernel versions20:52
TJ-arooni: the DSDT is actually code written by the PC manufacturer, but executed the running OS kernel, and it enables various power/configuration based on what it thinks the running OS can support. It defaults to a very low set of functions that are rarely properly tested unless it sees the running OS report itself as "Windows 2012" (in your case) so we get Linux to pretend to be that exact version and no20:53
TJ-other20:53
TJ-grrr s/ but executed *by* the running OS kernel/20:53
bhibbTJ: appreciate your walkthrough here, very helpful stuff to read alongside arooni.20:53
arooniTJ-: the amount of thankfulness i feel towards you for potentially helping me fix the most troublesome issue on my beloved laptop is only really expressible with a massive bitcoin tip of which sadly i do not have the funds for :P20:54
TJ-if you're interested in more of the ins and outs of how the boot process works, see https://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/20:54
TJ-arooni: knowing you fixed it is enough for me; I live with these frustrations too so I know how much of a relief the fixes are20:55
TJ-in particular, if you scroll down and press the "PC Power On" circle in the small diagram it will pop up to full screen at https://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/#flowchart20:56
arooniTJ-: well in that case i'm very glad to hear that.  just out of curiosity; are there any other benefits to moving to the latest acpi/dsdt version besides suspendresume working better?  also for fun what would the effect of putting windows 2009 like i had before be if apparently my laptop didnt even list it with that sudo command?20:56
TJ-arooni: usually there are hidden benefits such as better battery performance... I know of a few people who needed it to enable external monitor ports that disappeared after a suspend/resume ... wifi devices that don't work properly, and more20:58
arooniooh neato;  i need all the battery help i can get now that i upgraded my dual core 2520 to a quad core 2670; its 10W more power  consumption :(20:58
TJ-arooni: DSDT code is executed at boot-time and on suspend/resume operation which is why setting the OSI makes a difference20:58
aroonibut loving all 4 of those cores .... can never go back on my next laptop20:59
TJ-arooni: I'm looking forward to my 64-core AMD Zen 2 laptop that has 30 minutes of battery life :D20:59
arooniand i thought i was a rich man with my 4 cores lolzzzzz20:59
TJ-provided I can get as much done in those 30 minutes as I would in 8 hours on another system :p21:00
aroonihahahha21:00
kur1jim having issues with NFS mounting when krb5p is instabled, I keep getting errors saying Protocol not supported21:19
kur1jsomeone said I need to enable nfs-secure on my client however I don't know what configuration file that would be in21:20
kreyrenJimBuntu, thanks21:36
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ironpillowHi all, is it possible to restore ubuntu server to a previous state instead of installing. I am using ubuntu server 18.04 on headless box. I will testing out a bunch of software and will have to test multiple versions. It's hardware dependent. So is there a way to start ubuntu in clean state rather than install again and again. Thanks!22:42
flogironpillow: not that i know docker myself but depending on what you are installing docker might be the thing for you.22:49
ironpillowflog: I tried to use docker but I need many packages (like netplan) and also need access to hardware NICs.22:52
flogSo it wont work with dockers networking?22:55
TJ-ironpillow: install using LVM and enable snapshots so you can take a snapshot of the pristine system install, then install your test software, then rollback to the snapshot and test the next, and so on22:56

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