[00:13] <ht3567> Bashing-om : Hi. Am back. It didn't work, though   :'(
[00:14] <Sveta> what's the issue? i just joined
[00:15] <sarnold> hey Sveta, after a recent update, rebooting leads to "It keeps blinking purple and black, blank,"
[00:16] <ht3567> Sveta: Am unable to boot the system, expect through RECOVERY MODE in GRUB MENU. Exactly the issue as told by sarnold
[00:16] <Bashing-om> Sveta: ht3567 :: only boots from recovery mode - Intel graphics and driver is available - system updated .
[00:16] <ht3567> **except
[00:20] <ht3567> Also... Something which might give an idea... If I go to GRUB, Advanced Options, and select normal mode, it displays a black screen with several [Hardware Error] messages, similar to what was being displayed, when I first tried to install LinuxMint by creating a bootable PenDrive.
[00:21] <ht3567> I later installed Mint using a pendrive offered by a professional, but switched to Ubuntu because my system specifications were probable too low, to handle Mint
[00:22] <kyle__> Is tesseract just broken in 18.04?
[00:23] <kyle__> Every attempt I make ot use it gives me: read_params_file: parameter not found: MM
[00:24] <Bashing-om> ht3567: While we all cogitate - does a liveUSB of ubuntu boot ?
[00:26] <Bashing-om> !info tesseract bionic | kyle__ So what is the App, and where did you get it ?
[00:26] <ht3567> Bashing-om: I'll actually have to create a new bootable PD... The one I used to Install my current system around a couple of weeks ago is with a cousin, hence not in my possession...!!
[00:28] <Bashing-om> ht3567: Was but a thought - trying to think of a means where we can get some more info.
[00:31] <ht3567> Bashing-om: Heartiest thanks, really. The problem is unfortunate, but a community backing you up with so much of patience, is more than anything I could've asked for.
[00:32] <Bashing-om> ht3567: Hey it is our community - where all for one and 1 for all :P
[00:33] <Bashing-om> ht3567: Just racking my brain to come up with a means to gain some useful info.
[00:36] <Bashing-om> ht3567: Is this a lap top system and were the errors that you saw ACPI related ?
[00:37] <ht3567> Bashing-om: It is a laptop system, yeah.
[00:38] <ht3567> Bashing-om: I couldn't make any head-or-tail of the errors.
[00:39] <Bashing-om> ht3567: Try this tutorial to change the DSDT: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html. See then if the errors go away.
[00:41] <kyle__> Bashing-om: I got it from apt-get
[00:42] <kyle__> apt-get install tesseract-ocr and tesseract-ocr-eng I think were the package names
[00:42] <kyle__> Ahh tesseract-ocr-eng tesseract-ocr
[00:42] <kyle__> Sorry was afk for a moment.
[00:42] <sarnold> neat
[00:43] <ht3567> Bashing-om: Will do. And 'if' that doesn't work, and I create another bootable PenDrive, I remember some option of REPAIR, alongside INSTALL. Will I have to create a backup of personal files stored on my hard disk while attempting repair, too?
[00:43] <ht3567> (Just in case other things don't work out)
[00:44] <kyle__> I already tried an apt-get install --reinstall, and I cant find any old config files for tesseract in any obvious places.
[00:45] <Bashing-om> kyle__: Also need "tesseract-ocr-osd" - is it also installed ?
[00:45] <kyle__> Yes
[00:47] <ht3567> Bashing-om: I was downloading a ISO image of Ubuntu 18.04, and it's asking me if I wish to start restoring it on my internal Hard Disk. Can that help?
[00:49] <ht3567> i.e., will that work like the liveUSB you were telling me of, earlier?
[00:51] <ht3567> ...
[00:51] <Bashing-om> ht3567: Hard to say about re-installing if that will help. we do not have enough info to make any judgements at this time.
[00:52] <Sveta> just try the live cd without installing it, to test
[00:52] <kyle__> I just had the most obvious idea: test it in a docker of 18.04 read_params_file: parameter not found: MM
[00:52] <kyle__> Should have thought of that first.
[00:52] <kyle__> ????
[00:53] <sarnold> kyle__: what did you specify in your param file?
[00:53] <kyle__> :/  my paste buffer is not working right..
[00:53] <kyle__> sarnold: Nothing.  I did a fresh install, moved my /home over, and reinstalled the packages based on a dump of dpkg --get-selections on my old box
[00:54] <sarnold> kyle__: ah. try writing a params file?
[00:54] <kyle__> Does it need a params file?  I haven't called it directly for ages, so I can't recall
[00:54] <ht3567> Bashing-om: Sveta:: Will restoring the ISO image on my internal hard disk make the image function as a live CD or USB without modifying the personal files stored, or is there no si=uch thing?
[00:55] <ht3567> ** such
[00:56] <Bashing-om> ht3567: the .iso is just a file  - until it it uncompressed to a different medium it just sits there taking up disk space.
[00:57] <sarnold> kyle__: no idea, I've never tried tesseract :) but it says it's trying to read one, you might as well make one and see if it helps :)
[00:58] <ht3567> Bashing-om: Okay... I'll grab a pendrive, and see if that helps, and will first try the link you sent. Thanks for your time and insight. :D
[00:58] <kyle__> Heh.  Fair point.
[00:58] <kyle__> A docker of ubuntu:18.04 exhibits the same behavior I'm seeing on my desktop
[00:58] <Bashing-om> ht3567: We are here to the end - booting a liveUSB is a good start to the trouble shooting .
[01:03] <kyle__> >_<
[01:03] <sarnold> kyle__: did you have any luck with the params file?
[01:04] <kyle__> Wow.  I spent plenty of time today fixing long dashes in a powerpoint at work, that it "helpfully" replaced every instance of -- with
[01:04] <sarnold> oh god. em dashes?
[01:04] <kyle__> And I didn't think to compare the web-rendered manpage to the console one.
[01:05] <kyle__> sarnold: Yeah, I was making a training deck to show how to use openstack.
[01:06] <kyle__> And low and behold, the error I'm seeing is what happens when you type -psm and not --psm.  Because I wasn't looking for the misrendered -- as emdash
[01:06] <sarnold> aaarrrggghhh. stupid autocorrect.
[01:07] <kyle__> I don't mind autocorrect in a word processor, when it's correcting WORDS, but I hate it correcting punctuation or capitalization.  90% of the time I'm using a word processor it's to wirte technical docs or presentations, and the other 10% is helping my kids with homework.
[01:11] <sarnold> fighting that kind of stuff was half of what pushed me to latex back in the day..
[01:11] <kyle__> Over 90% linux servers at work, but 0% linux desktops.  The closest I could get was a macbook, and that's considered experimental there.
[01:12] <kyle__> Which is a long way of saying, office-365 on a mac is as non-windowsy as I can get for making a presentation there :)
[01:13] <mia> Hello channel
[01:13] <mia> what's the latest supported gnome on 18.04 lts
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-shell bionic
[01:14] <lotuspsychje> mia: ^
[01:14] <mia> thanks lotuspsychje
[01:14] <hatsunearu> hello
[01:15] <hatsunearu> so I'm having a butt ton of trouble getting ubuntu working on my new Ryzen 3600 rig (with Vega 56 as my GPU)
[01:15] <hatsunearu> I know there's the infamous RDRAND bug, and I heard the workaround for that is to install an old version of ubuntu (i used 18.04) and upgrade to 19.04
[01:16] <hatsunearu> i did that so I got it booting, but now ive noticed an issue with the suspend functionality
[01:16] <hatsunearu> when I come back out of suspend the system freezes
[01:16] <hatsunearu> Couldn't really pull the log off of it after boot either
[01:17] <hatsunearu> anyone have any fixes for this issue? I've seen a workaround that involves disabling P states but that's basically just crippling so much power saving features I don't really see the point
[01:18] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: for ryzen, we getting several storys & bugs, we have some users sticking on 4.19 kernel, iwould advice playing around with !mainline
[01:18] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | hatsunearu
[01:19] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: can you tell us wich kernel you are on now?
[01:19] <hatsunearu> uname -a for that info right
[01:19] <Bashing-om> hatsunearu: What is the motherboard ? AMD has issued patches for the Ryzen300 series : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-3000-BIOS-Update-Good
[01:19] <hatsunearu> MSI b450 gaming ac itx
[01:19] <hatsunearu> i don't think they have the patch out yet :(
[01:20] <hatsunearu> i actually don't know if the suspend issue is a symptom of the rdrand issue
[01:20] <hatsunearu> Linux HOSTNAME 5.0.0-27-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 20 19:53:07 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:20] <hatsunearu> lotuspsychje ^ there you go
[01:20] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[01:21] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: maybe for starters, try 4.19 and latest 5.3 or so?
[01:21] <hatsunearu> how do i do that?
[01:21] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: read the mainline wiki, its described howto
[01:21] <hatsunearu> thanks
[01:21] <hatsunearu> hmm
[01:21] <hatsunearu> i have virtualbox installed
[01:22] <hatsunearu> is there a list i can pull up to find things to remove?
[01:23] <hatsunearu> lotuspsychje should i get the newest rc of the newest version
[01:23] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: the users choice, but sure why not
[01:25] <hatsunearu> whats the difference between:
[01:25] <hatsunearu>   linux-headers-5.3.0-050300rc7_5.3.0-050300rc7.201909021831_all.deb
[01:25] <hatsunearu>   linux-headers-5.3.0-050300rc7-generic_5.3.0-050300rc7.201909021831_amd64.deb
[01:25] <hatsunearu> dpkg also complains that the headers package is missing
[01:26] <hatsunearu> wait im dumb hold on
[01:27] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: it worked, when you: sudo update-grub and the kernel showing in your list
[01:27] <hatsunearu> lotuspsychje which packages do i need to install?
[01:27] <hatsunearu> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.3-rc7/
[01:27] <hatsunearu> in here, there's headers, image and modules
[01:27] <hatsunearu> all three?
[01:27] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Choose_the_proper_upstream_kernel_files
[01:27] <OerHeks> yes
[01:28] <OerHeks> follow the 'a' selection
[01:28] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: just not lowlatency
[01:28] <hatsunearu> yeah
[01:28] <hatsunearu> thanks OerHeks also getting some dependency errors installing the image package
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[01:29] <hatsunearu> ah wait i think i got it
[01:30] <hatsunearu> alright gonna reboot see you in a bitr
[01:30] <hatsunearu> famous last works :P
[01:33] <hatsunearu> im back
[01:33] <hatsunearu> im back
[01:33] <hatsunearu> forgot your name :(
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: wb
[01:33] <hatsunearu> should i just go ahead and test the suspend?
[01:33] <hatsunearu> hey
[01:34] <hatsunearu> uname -a says 5.30
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: yeah, compare your system to your former issues
[01:36] <hatsunearu> rip, didn't work
[01:36] <hatsunearu> rip, didn't work
[01:36] <hatsunearu> computer still froze on unsuspend
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: bios up to date?
[01:37] <hatsunearu> i didn't install the beta bios
[01:37] <hatsunearu> maybe i should try that
[01:37] <hatsunearu> it just says "improve memory compatibility"
[01:37] <hatsunearu> i also disabled XMP
[01:39] <hatsunearu> brb bios update
[01:46] <hatsunearu> lotuspsychje, came back with my laptop
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: how goes
[01:47] <hatsunearu> updating bios
[01:47] <hatsunearu> fingers crossed
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> :p
[01:47] <hatsunearu> also MSI's software is super chinesium so yeha
[01:47] <hatsunearu> i've had suspend issues on *windows*
[01:47] <hatsunearu> the network adapter disappears after suspend
[01:53] <hatsunearu> rip, still doesn't work
[01:53] <hatsunearu> lotuspsychje, any other ideas?
[01:53] <hatsunearu> how do you get the log anyways? i thought i looked in the "logs" program but idk if that's the best method
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | hatsunearu
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: you can also while you play, open a: journalctl -f
[01:54] <hatsunearu> i thought dmesg doesn't show me logs from the "last" boot
[01:54] <hatsunearu> cause like when i suspend and wake up
[01:54] <hatsunearu> system's dead
[01:54] <hatsunearu> oh that's /werid/
[01:54] <hatsunearu> system didn't reboot after the hw reboot button
[01:54] <hatsunearu> very scary
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: whats your graphics card/driver version?
[01:55] <hatsunearu> RX Vega 56
[01:55] <hatsunearu> not sure how to check drivers. is there a place to install driver
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: stock amdgpu or did you install from amd?
[01:56] <hatsunearu> didn't install anything explicitly
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> ok
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: can you share your dmesg please? lets have a look whats going on in there
[01:57] <hatsunearu> lotuspsychje, is there a way of viewing the dmesg from the "last" boot
[01:57] <hatsunearu> like before it died
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: lets start with your current dmesg
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> share here hatsunearu plz, other volunteers always ready to think along with us
[01:59] <hatsunearu> pastebin.com/SH2iDymK
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: your ryzen machine is a lenovo?
[02:00] <hatsunearu> what
[02:00] <hatsunearu> no?
[02:00] <hatsunearu> line number please?
[02:01] <hatsunearu> i have an old SSD from my lenovo laptop in the desktop
[02:01] <hatsunearu> though the boot drive should be from an nvme m.2
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> nvm
[02:02] <hatsunearu> i am on irc on my lenovo laptop :P
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: sudo lshw -C video plz
[02:07] <hatsunearu> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/JQ0TksJU
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu: ok, looks loaded
[02:08] <hatsunearu_> ok
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: dmesg showing few amdgpu & iwlwifi issues, but not sure yet whats going on for you
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: we have few bugs with realtek 8169 too doing weird things with system, power related on kernel 5.0 series too
[02:11] <hatsunearu_> whats that
[02:11] <hatsunearu_> realtek 8169
[02:11] <hatsunearu_> is that the wifi?
[02:11] <hatsunearu_> or is that the ethernet
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: sudo lshw -C network will show you
[02:11] <hatsunearu_> oh dang, it is the ethernet :(
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: can you try this kernel lin in your grub: i915.fastboot=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=4
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> *line
[02:12] <hatsunearu_> intel?
[02:12] <hatsunearu_> also is that edited by pressing E in the grub menus
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: you can edit /etc/default/grub if you like, then sudo update-grub
[02:12] <hatsunearu_> oh i alreayd rebooted :(
[02:13] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, can i do it in the grub menu
[02:13] <hatsunearu_> ahh ill jsut reboot
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> sure
[02:15] <hatsunearu_> im an idiot
[02:15] <hatsunearu_> fogot to update-grub
[02:17] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, update-grub says i915.fastboot=0 not found
[02:17] <hatsunearu_> i put the lines at the bottom of the /etc/default/grub file
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: you added it like this? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.fastboot=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=4"
[02:19] <hatsunearu_> yeah oops
[02:19] <hatsunearu_> rebootin
[02:21] <hatsunearu_> nope :(
[02:21] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, didn't seem to work
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: ok tnx anyway for testing
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: you can edit back to 'quiet splash' now
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> and sudo update-grub
[02:22] <hatsunearu_> what a bummer
[02:22] <hatsunearu_> i hate realtek :(
[02:22] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: 2 more ideas would be kernel 4.19 and !acpi bootlines
[02:23] <Sveta> (can you get better hardware?)
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> !acpi
[02:23] <hatsunearu_> !acpi bootlines
[02:23] <hatsunearu_> ubottu
[02:23] <hatsunearu_> nice name
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> yeah he's our friend :p
[02:27] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, is there a way of grabbing logs right before it dies?\
[02:28] <hatsunearu_> cause like my laptop is also having random death issues and i have correlated it with the mobile broadband modem (i'll get to it eventually)
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: think journal has some tricks to dig in the past
[02:28] <hatsunearu_> ah mind sharing that journalctl command again
[02:28] <hatsunearu_> it died in the firey reboot
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: journalctl -b -1 for example
[02:30] <hatsunearu_> last message is "suspending system..."
[02:30] <hatsunearu_> hehe
[02:30] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, did you notice the iwlwifi microcode SW error detected message?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: maybe take a look in /var/crash too
[02:31] <hatsunearu_> empty
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: yeah i saw the iwlwifi issues, we had some reports on that too recently
[02:32] <hatsunearu_> is there a way of disabling the wifi and the ethernet meme to isolate it?
[02:32] <hatsunearu_> but if it is ethernet... i'm kinda boned. i need ethernet (obviously)
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: this solved the bug, but not sure its related to you right: bug #1842686
[02:37] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, is there a workaround
[02:37] <hatsunearu_> also can i just disable the PCI device or something like that
[02:37] <hatsunearu_> prevent the driver from coming up
[02:37] <hatsunearu_> i mean no network but suspend doesn't require internet access
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: you can try blacklisting your wifi module
[02:38] <lotuspsychje> so you only have ethernet
[02:38] <hatsunearu_> how would i do that again..
[02:39] <hatsunearu_> also how do i make ubuntu turn off the monitors? maybe i won't enjoy the power savings but i at least want the montiors dark so i can sleep
[02:39] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: edit /etc/modprobe.d./blacklist.conf and blacklist iwlwifi
[02:41] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, general question: how do i know what device has what drivers loaded
[02:41] <hatsunearu_> so if i wanted to disable a random thing where would i look that up
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: lsmod
[02:42] <hatsunearu_> ah
[02:44] <hatsunearu_> PLEASE
[02:44] <hatsunearu_> rip :(
[02:48] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, i blacklisted r8169 but somehow it got loaded anyways
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: r8169 is your ethernet right?
[02:48] <sarnold> hatsunearu_: turning off monitors is usually xset dpms   -- xset dpms force   should turn off the monitors asap if you don't want to wait
[02:49] <hatsunearu_> sarnold, `xset dpms`?
[02:50] <hatsunearu_> didn't do anything hmm
[02:50] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, yes my ethernet
[02:50] <hatsunearu_> i still have internet access and r8169 is listed in the lsmod
[02:50] <sarnold> hatsunearu_: if you run xset q  you'll see the current settings
[02:50] <sarnold> hatsunearu_: just run a bare 'xset' to see your options
[02:51] <hatsunearu_> oh ok
[02:51] <hatsunearu_> it turns off on its own
[02:51] <hatsunearu_> i just want a button to do it
[02:53] <sarnold> try xset dpms force
[02:54] <frib> when I use the "Test Speakers" button from the settings panel I hear audio, otherwise there is no audio on my system -- what is the issue here? thanks
[02:55] <hatsunearu_> sarnold, it says missing argument
[02:55] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, any ideas on disabling r8169?
[02:55] <hatsunearu_> blacklisting
[02:55] <OerHeks> frib, did you install restricted extras?
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: after adding it, did you reboot?
[02:56] <hatsunearu_> yeah
[02:56] <sarnold> hatsunearu_: sorry, xset dpms force off   , xset dpms force standby, etc. whatever works
[02:56] <hatsunearu_> ah oka
[02:56] <frib> OerHeks, no, it seems this started since I used my HDMI port for the first time in a long time a few days ago, but I haven't really noticed it
[02:57] <sarnold> hatsunearu_: try several, not all work on my monitor
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: maybe if you got bios option, turn off there
[02:57] <hatsunearu_> dont think there was
[02:57] <OerHeks> frib, any more information that we should be aware of?
[02:57] <hatsunearu_> sarnold, worked, thanks!
[02:57] <frib> OerHeks, I really don't even know if that is related. I have no idea why this happened
[02:57] <sarnold> woot :)
[02:58] <frib> OerHeks, even when I change the volume from the settings panel it used to make those popping sounds, but it doesn't anymore -- *only* test speakers works
[02:58] <hatsunearu_> yeah hmm that's weird
[02:58] <hatsunearu_> i can't blacklist
[03:01] <hatsunearu_> ok, got the blacklist working
[03:01] <hatsunearu_> dang. still doesn't work
[03:01] <hatsunearu_> so much for that theory
[03:02] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, what's significant about 4.19?
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: well i hear good things about ryzen and 4.19, doing what its suppose to be
[03:02] <hatsunearu_> oh
[03:02] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: cant harm to test right
[03:03] <hatsunearu_> if it works, then does that mean i have to be on an old kernel? :(
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: well lets test things first
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: one of our volunteers runs gentoo with 4.19
[03:04] <hatsunearu_> ok
[03:04] <hatsunearu_> do i download from 4.19 or 4.19.69
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: try plain 4.19 for start yeah
[03:06] <hatsunearu_> oh shit
[03:06] <hatsunearu_> i installed .69
[03:06] <hatsunearu_> ah well ill test that
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: try anyway
[03:08] <hatsunearu_> lol it worked
[03:08] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, now what :(
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> what worked
[03:08] <hatsunearu_> 4.19.69
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: you mean it fixxed your suspend?
[03:08] <hatsunearu_> yup
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> lol jeez
[03:08] <hatsunearu_> am i stuck in 4land then?
[03:08] <hatsunearu_> what happened between 4.19.69 and 5?
[03:09] <hatsunearu_> is it the spectre etc mitigations
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: well surely file a bug for 5.0 -27 right
[03:09] <hatsunearu_> oh shit
[03:09] <hatsunearu_> i get to be a bug reporter?
[03:09]  * hatsunearu_ gets the big boy pants
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> plz no swear in main support :p
[03:09] <hatsunearu_> sorry :3
[03:09] <hatsunearu_> also
[03:09] <hatsunearu_> i want to isolate if it's amdgpu
[03:10] <hatsunearu_> but i can't, because there's no onboard graphics
[03:10] <hatsunearu_> shucks
[03:10] <sarnold> pants?
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: let the devs search for it, ubuntu-bug linux from 5.0 -27
[03:10] <hatsunearu_> so uh
[03:10] <hatsunearu_> what should i do
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: what i say, bug it
[03:11] <hatsunearu_> i dont know how lol :|
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: just said it, boot into -27 and from terminal: ubuntu-bug linux
[03:11] <hatsunearu_> i'm not sure what details i need to include
[03:11] <hatsunearu_> oh,
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: got a launchpad account?
[03:12] <hatsunearu_> ill make one
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> cool
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: ubuntu-bug will drag all your info the the bug, you just add a title and describe your full story, mentioning your kernel tests and 4.19 fix
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: and tnx for helping out the community ok
[03:15] <hatsunearu_> well idk if i'm helping out lol
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> you are
[03:15] <hatsunearu_> i just have bad experiences with filing bug reports
[03:15] <hatsunearu_> shit gets ignored and sometimes i get humiliated :(
[03:16] <hatsunearu_> oh i swore again sorry
[03:17] <hatsunearu_> hmm
[03:17] <hatsunearu_> i swore and Obscenity walks in
[03:24] <hatsunearu_> lotuspsychje, submitted! hopefully it gets fixed soon :D
[03:24] <hatsunearu_> can i delete the 5.3 rc7?
[03:26] <mallu0987> I have a couple of ubuntu18.04 servers running on VMware. One of the servers is loosing DHCP lease every 3 hours. Is there anything on the server I can check to see what is causing this server to loose DHCP lease?
[03:26] <OerHeks> boot back in the old kernel, and remove 5.3
[03:26] <hatsunearu_> hopefully i did it right
[03:26] <hatsunearu_> OerHeks, actually which tool do i need to uninstall?
[03:28] <frib> OerHeks, is there any hope of fixing the problem?
[03:28] <OerHeks> easy would be terminal, just page up, and edit the apt command install \ > remove
[03:29] <hatsunearu_> i used dpkg to install though
[03:29] <hatsunearu_> ah used apt to remove ty
[03:30] <hatsunearu_> now i wait, i guess
[03:33] <OerHeks> frib, what if you openend terminal: alsamixer # and select with F6 device, does hdmi work? and fiddle around with the sliders, some might be at 0
[03:36] <frib> OerHeks, is there a gui version of this?
[03:36] <frib> my F6 key is out of service
[03:36] <OerHeks> just the sound menu, should work too?
[03:37] <OerHeks> interesting you come up with a broken F6
[03:39] <frib> OerHeks, it's not broken physically but it has one of those function features
[03:40] <frib> and it only does that special function, not "F6"
[03:40] <JimBuntu> ok, try Function F6
[03:40] <frib> JimBuntu, I did
[03:40] <JimBuntu> hrm frib , sounds like the keyboard isn't using standard key mapping
[03:41] <frib> JimBuntu, I'm using fluxbox
[03:41] <OerHeks> oh, not a standard de ..
[03:41] <OerHeks> maybe it is a flucbox sound issue, dunno
[03:41] <frib> I've been using fluxbox for like 5 years
[03:45] <JimBuntu> frib, please re-iterate the issue. Last I saw you have audio when you use the test audio feature, but otherwise no. Would probably help others
[03:46] <frib> JimBuntu, the only audio that works on my system currently is when I click "Test Speakers"
[03:47] <frib> it says "Front Left, Front Right"
[03:47] <frib> maybe some other audio works that I dont' know of, but as of right now that's all I know works
[03:47] <JimBuntu> That is so odd frib, I don't think I can help, but hope someone else can. Which version of ubuntu?
[03:48] <frib> 18.04 -- I know it's odd believe me lol
[03:48] <JimBuntu> I believe it!  So, 18.04 Ubuntu, audio only plays when using the test audio feature. Anyone can help? suggestions or questions?
[04:01] <chieta> i tried set daily cron job for starting the skypeforlinux @8:30 but no luck
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: thank you for taking your time to file bug 1842785
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: the devs will help you now, if you need help about the bisecting, please join #ubuntu-kernel
[04:17] <hatsunearu_> gotta sleep soon, but i'll tkae a look tomorrow
[04:17] <hatsunearu_> i also have a concussion so it's a little hard to think :(
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx again for filing it gabmus[m]
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_
[04:17] <hatsunearu_> no problem
[04:17] <hatsunearu_> thanks for helping me
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> welcome
[04:17] <hatsunearu_> wait what's a kernel bisection
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: bisecting kernel, means tracing wich commit is causing the trouble in the kernel
[04:18] <hatsunearu_> is it just a search of which kernel version causes the issue?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: no, its a method of debugging the commits in the kernel
[04:19] <hatsunearu_> wait do i need to get down to which git commit caused the issue?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: there are tools to do it for you, but yes its a bit tracing
[04:20] <hatsunearu_> oof sounds like a lot of work
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> yes
[04:20] <hatsunearu_> is kaiheng feng asking me to do a version bisect or a commit bisect?
[04:21] <hatsunearu_> well i guess this is the fair price to pay to get it fixed :P
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> hatsunearu_: kai is the dev yeah, but i suggest you go ask in #ubuntu-kernel for a howto
[04:22] <hatsunearu_> okay
[04:22] <hatsunearu_> ill probably come back later though
[04:22] <hatsunearu_> thanks!
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> great!
[06:40] <comron> Hi all, Is there a place to find out status on archive.ubuntu.com and mirrors, we've been experiencing packet loss and high latency when installing packages today.
[06:42] <eoli3n> Hi
[06:42] <eoli3n> why TF useradd asks for "current password" mais creating a new user with root ?
[06:42] <eoli3n> s/mais/when
[06:43] <OerHeks> comron, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[06:43] <OerHeks> what mirror exactly?
[06:45] <comron> traceroute to archive.ubuntu.com gives the following results:
[06:45] <comron>   2.|-- secondary.danava.canonica  5.0%    20  501.6 1142. 252.0 7037. 1581.0
[06:45] <comron> so an average latency of 1142ms
[06:45] <comron> I tried us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com and got average latency of 486.6ms
[06:46] <OerHeks> ec2 ? cloud mirror?
[06:46] <comron> not sure if this is a good metric to use, but we were seeing small 20Mb packages take 200+s to install via apt-get
[06:47] <comron> yes I tried an aws mirror to see if it was a networking issue for us. I can try one of the other listed mirrors
[06:54] <eoli3n> archlinux -> http://ix.io/1Uk5
[06:55] <eoli3n> ubuntu 18.04 -> http://ix.io/1Uk4
[06:55] <eoli3n> what is that "current password"
[06:58] <OerHeks> we believe in adduser, not useradd though it might lokk/feel the same?
[06:59] <comron> it looks like its the hop '99.82.179.9' in my route to archive.ubuntu.com is the problem. Two of the other mirrors I tried from the list seem fine, oddly the aws mirror is just as bad even from inside aws
[06:59] <eoli3n> OerHeks: same problem with adduser
[07:00] <eoli3n> OerHeks: with adduser (which use passwd)
[07:00] <eoli3n> http://ix.io/1Uk6
[07:03] <eoli3n> nobody?
[07:06] <eoli3n> fix : needed to remove '!' from /etc/shadow, then "passwd account" : current password : ""
[07:06] <eoli3n> clap clap clap ubuntu... again
[07:07] <OerHeks> now make sure you are member of audio and video..
[07:07] <OerHeks> https://dej.in.ua/ubuntu-server-16-04-kiosk-mode/
[07:27] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[07:28] <mahdi_ja> i have a problem when i working in desktop
[07:28] <groke> hi mahdi_ja just ask the question¨
[07:28] <mahdi_ja> in desktop when i do operation such as coping,compressing no any progress bar shown
[07:29] <mahdi_ja> and i can not see any thing for determine finishing operation
[07:30] <groke> using nautilius mahdi_ja?
[07:32] <groke> maybe this will help, mahdi_ja https://askubuntu.com/questions/1019330/no-progress-bar-when-copying-files-with-newer-versions-of-nautilus-ubuntu-17-10
[07:33] <OerHeks> i see a progress thingy while copying in nautilus, it is round on the panel
[07:35] <mahdi_ja> groke, i know it but in desktop not any progress shown
[07:36] <groke> mahdi_ja: one of the commenters in the link said the same thing, so it might be a bug/missing feature in the application
[07:36] <OerHeks> that 17.10 info is old
[07:36] <OerHeks> 18.04/gnome gives progress
[07:37] <groke> i see
[07:38] <groke> he didn't say which version he is running
[07:39] <OerHeks> btw the post of 26 mar 8 gives the same answer with screenshot
[07:41] <mahdi_ja> groke, i use ubuntu 18.04 and when you click super+d key and see deskop and do operation in this windows not nautilus you can not see any porgress bar
[07:42] <OerHeks> that is correct. progressbar is in nautilus.
[07:42] <OerHeks> solved!
[07:44] <groke> hm yes
[07:45] <groke> if u like progress bars, it's best to use nautilius
[07:46] <mahdi_ja> this means i see progress bar only and only in nautilus
[07:50] <groke> mahdi_ja: ubuntu probably hasn't implemented progress bar for desktop file operations then
[08:39] <hewhomust> Hi, I'm giving away invites to animebytes and morethantv. DM me a screenshot of any other private tracker if you want one.
[08:40] <legreffier> hewhomust: this is not the place.
[09:19] <cluelessperson> is there software for mounting a nfs or similar share and encrypting it client side?
[09:20] <Habbie> cluelessperson, encfs perhaps
[09:26] <tekisui> hello
[09:26] <tekisui> what is a good ubuntu version for a 1000 ghz laptop ??
[09:27] <cluelessperson> tekisui  lubuntu
[09:27] <cluelessperson> light ubuntu basically
[09:27] <tekisui> ah i had that
[09:27] <tekisui> it got verry complicated :D
[09:28] <cluelessperson> debian
[09:28] <cluelessperson> knoppix
[09:28] <tekisui> redhat ?
[09:28] <tekisui> is that good system
[09:28] <OerHeks> cluelessperson, don't suggest that in here, thanks. just keep it by ubuntu
[09:28] <tekisui> well i like to stick to ubuntu
[09:28] <OerHeks> !flavors
[09:28] <cluelessperson> OerHeks why?
[09:29] <OerHeks> cluelessperson, you know the channel rules, behave..
[09:29] <tekisui> ubuntu got to heavy for me skatje
[09:29] <tekisui> :well goodday i think will go back to 12 or so
[09:30] <OerHeks> lubuntu, mate, maybe xubuntu ..
[09:31] <cluelessperson> OerHeks and which rule am I breaking?
[09:32] <OerHeks> just don't suggest other distros than ubuntu, likely?
[09:49] <vadique> hi there
[09:49] <vadique> my provider suxx, I need to use vpn for p2p traffic
[09:49] <vadique> how can I achieve that in ubuntu
[09:51] <OerHeks> choose a vpn provider, and .. https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-vpn-connect.html.en
[10:00] <vadique> OerHeks, some free vpn from open lists, and only for p2p
[10:03] <OerHeks> vadique, choosing vpn provider is beyond the scope of this channel, sorry i cannot help you with that
[10:04] <OerHeks> "free" is not always free and save, just saying
[10:29] <mystic> jib jib
[10:35] <zamba> what is the best way of setting up a redundant sftp server?
[10:35] <zamba> preferably also with load balancing
[10:35] <zamba> shared storage and then also some authentication service that's running alongside?
[10:48] <darutoko> ubuntu 19.04 every thing but sound freezes while watching video (vlc and twitch), is there a way to find the source of a problem?
[10:55] <Xatenev> hello
[10:56] <Xatenev> in my IDE i use "fira code" font, how can i make that font available in my terminal emulator?
[10:56] <Xatenev> I use the ubuntu default one
[11:17] <jarnos> bash is taking 100% cpu according to top.
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:22] <jarnos> See her for possible related PIDs https://pasteboard.co/IvZyHCt.png
[11:22] <jarnos> What is wrong?
[11:23] <jarnos> Is it safe to kill the process of bash?
[11:31] <foxiness> jarnos: i think it will reload it self after the kill
[11:33] <mystic> im sticking with ubuntu...  all other os's have some wierd jerky stuff that doesnt work or is hard to install/use
[11:33] <foxiness> mystic: how long ur using ubunut?
[11:34] <mystic> off and on for a few years..  fianlly able to use it well on ubuntu 18..  terminal becomes less needed.. and it generally works easy and smooth
[12:35] <pomeha> hello, what does `pkill -0` do?
[12:36] <golden_ticket> Can anyone help me figure out how to write iptables rules such that all tcp traffic is router through a local proxy?
[12:37] <OerHeks> pomeha, without application name, nothing? -o Select only the oldest (least recently started) of the matching processes.
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | golden_ticket
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> golden_ticket: see also the #netfilter channel
[12:37] <golden_ticket> thanks
[12:37] <niko1990> hello everyone
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> welcome niko1990
[12:39] <niko1990> I have a quick question: my ssd of my computer is getting too small for me, so I bought a new one. Is there a way to copy the complete old hdd to the new one - even though the new one is bigger - so that I don't have to install ubuntu and everything new?
[12:39] <pomeha> OerHeks: it's not even -o, it's -0 (zero)
[12:40] <golden_ticket> niko1990, I believe you can image your disk and copy it over to the new hdd but idk about resizing and such
[12:43] <OerHeks> pomeha, the manual gives no clue, where did you find that command?
[12:43] <ioria> pomeha,  sending the signal 0 to a given PID just checks if any process with the given PID is running and you have the permission to send a signal to it.
[12:43] <OerHeks> without applicationname*
[12:45] <niko1990> golden_ticket: thank you
[14:12] <DArqueBishop> Hey guys, I have an odd issue. I'm running Ubuntu 19.04 as a VirtualBox VM on a Windows 10 host. Whenever the screen locks, three of my snap apps (Discord, Riot, and Signal) close down completely. Weirdly, it's not all snap apps, as HexChat continues to run. I'm not having any luck finding a solution; anyone have any ideas?
[14:26] <deadrom> hi
[14:27] <deadrom> 16.04LTS on intel NUC, worked a charm over at least a year. now: every couple boots the cable keyb/mouse light their blinkenlights, go dead.
[14:27] <deadrom> sometimes mouse stays
[14:27] <deadrom> syslog oes not say anything about "USB disconnects"
[14:27] <deadrom> *does
[14:28] <deadrom> some standard HP keyboard. could it be affected by power management?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: wich nuc is this please
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: kernel version could be also interesting
[14:34] <deadrom> lotuspsychje: 4.15.0-60-generic #67~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 26 08:57:33 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:35] <deadrom> "which NUC", any way to tell remotely?
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: if you have inxi installed, inxi -F
[14:35] <deadrom> can install, moment
[14:36] <deadrom> lotuspsychje: NUC5i3MYBE
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: ok tnx, i noticed some weird mouse behaviour on my NUC i7 too have to click several times to open something, or sometimes 2 windows jump open after 1 click
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: do you recognize somethign similar?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: but im on 18.04.3 and kernel 5.0 -27
[14:38] <deadrom> lotuspsychje: not really. keyboard dies, mostly, and that's it
[14:39] <deadrom> huh? 18.04 changed kernel series mid-distro?
[14:40] <OerHeks> as of 18.04.2 a fresh install gets kernel 5.x like !hwe
[14:40] <OerHeks> !hwe
[14:41] <deadrom> but updating from 18.04(.1) stays with the 4 series?
[14:41] <OerHeks> deadrom, yes.
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: maybe you can try to boot a previous kernel as a test?
[14:41] <OerHeks> but you can also trigger hwe, see the wiki
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: also doublecheck the recent NUC firmware updates, critical security issues
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: inxi -F or dmesg will show your bios version
[14:43] <deadrom> keyboards sits in a drawer... maybe it's as easy as a bad cable, who knows... NUC FW will check
[14:46] <deadrom> far newer BIOS available... but one cannot update from within linux, right?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: no, but the nuc firmwares are pretty nice to update, put the file on a stick and load it from the bios
[14:47] <deadrom> lotuspsychje: "put on stick and load from bios" even at 2019 bios user friendlyness is waaaaay past what I can talk the owner through on the phone. guess I'll have to drive over. bring a spare keyb on the occasion..
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: there is fwupdate, but i doubt NUCS are in the database
[14:51] <deadrom> drive over. no shenanigans :)
[14:53] <deadrom> something else: while at I'm a doing a syscheck and smartctl tells me "179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot   0x0013   100   001   010    Pre-fail  Always   In_the_past 0"
[14:53] <deadrom> 5 realloc'_sector_ct is at 0 though. samsung 840 ssd, 6 TB written, 4800 power on hours
[14:54] <deadrom> what is attribute 179 and how do I assess that?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: did you firmware update your 840 too at plugin in your computer?
[14:56] <deadrom> lotuspsychje: no
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> deadrom: there's a critical performance patch for the 840 evo's
[14:57] <deadrom> no perf issues. just curious about this attribute.
[14:58] <deadrom> it's not an evo, if that's a relevant, "just" 840
[15:26] <grobda24> Hi. I've searched high and low but I can't see an up to date PPA for MPD (Music Player Daemon). I always manage to find one of the version in UIbuntu repositories is a bit outdated. MPD seems popular so I'm surprised. Does anyone know of an up to date PPA ? Cheers.
[15:27] <grobda24> if*
[15:28] <BluesKaj> grobda24, what's your issue with the default mpd?
[15:44] <JonelethIrenicus> so does ubuntu not have monitor specific scaling?
[15:52] <becool> names
[15:54] <grobda24> BluesKaj: Default MPD in Ubuntu repositories is old (21.4 Jan 2019). I would prefer a way that auto updates such as PPA. Is there really is nothing then I can build it.
[15:57] <ioria> grobda24, correct me; stable is still  the build of 29-Oct-2018 22:41
[16:18] <JonelethIrenicus> so anyone know if ubuntu works with the dell d6000 dock??
[16:19] <becool> JonelethIrenicus: that would be a driver thing. have you checked to see if it's included in the kernel?
[16:19] <JonelethIrenicus> becool: not sure many things work out of the box but two displays aren't working
[16:19] <JonelethIrenicus> im building the displaylink driver now
[16:19] <letterrip> hi all, I'm trying to diagnose cause of my slow boot times - I've elimiated many of them; but systemd-analyze critical-chain shows that NetworkManager.service @13.846s +14.830s
[16:20] <letterrip> any suggestions?
[16:20] <JonelethIrenicus> its stuck on "Building EVDI kernel module with DKMS"
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> letterrip: ubuntu version and kernel please
[16:20] <JonelethIrenicus> it doesn't give an indicator as to how long it will take
[16:21] <becool> letterrip: you using dhcp?
[16:21] <letterrip> becool - not sure
[16:22] <becool> letterrip: what's the output of 'ip a'?
[16:22] <becool> possible network negotiation is having issues
[16:22] <becool> either that or a persistent mount in fstab is having issues
[16:22] <letterrip> lotuspsychje, looking ... 5.2.0-15-generic Ubuntu eoan (upgraded to see if it would help)
[16:23] <OerHeks> letterrip, if that network is wireless, sounds oke
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> letterrip: 19.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[16:23] <letterrip> lotuspsychje, oops - thanks
[16:30] <letterrip> OerHeks, ah - when googling around was seeing times of 500 ms or so
[16:30] <becool> letterrip: try doing an ifdown and ifup on your wireless interface
[16:30] <becool> see how long it takes
[16:30] <becool> if it takes a while then you know dhcp negotiation is the issue
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> becool: join #ubuntu+1 if you want to assist him please
[16:31] <becool> lotuspsychje: what's that?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> becool: the support channel for 19.10
[16:32] <becool> oh didn't know they were using 19.10
[16:32] <letterrip> becool - thanks for help - have switched to ubuntu+1 channel...
[16:33] <becool> yw
[16:35] <markus_e92> Hello, does anyone know how to automatically decrypt a luks root partition on system startup? I've found tutorials on clevis+tpm2, but ubuntu 18.04 uses a too old version of clevis, that doesn't support tpm2.
[16:37] <becool> markus_e92: do you already have a random key file available?
[16:38] <becool> you'll have to create a mapper that can be referenced in fstab
[16:41] <JonelethIrenicus> how can i switch to the open source driver?
[16:49] <mattmb> is there known issues with archive.ubuntu.com?
[16:49] <mattmb> we're seeing bad performance running tests etc.
[16:51] <JonelethIrenicus> so dell d6000 doesn't work on ubuntu
[16:52] <JonelethIrenicus> and per monitor scaling doesn't work either
[16:52] <JonelethIrenicus> even with open drivers
[16:53] <JonelethIrenicus> so sad
[16:53] <JonelethIrenicus> will have to use windows
[17:17] <brimestone> Hey guys, I have a server running ubuntu 14 and I would like to create an image of it.. Can I use DD on a live server? doing it via Live CD isn't ideal for me
[17:19] <becool> brimestone: you should be able to. why not use rsync instead?
[17:19] <ctjctj> Hello, I'm pretty good with the command line, but I'm looking for a find command or series of find commands that will find a file named 'config' within a directory named '.git'  Right now it looks something like 'find . -type f -name config | egrep '/.git/config$' | ...
[17:19] <brimestone> becool, use rsync to image the system?
[17:21] <becool> yep
[17:21] <becool> can do the whole thing to an iso
[17:21] <brimestone> intestering..
[17:22] <lordcirth_> ctjctj, find . -path '.git/config'
[17:22] <becool> for example, something like 'sudo rsync -avz /dev/sdc1 /mnt/backups/backup.iso'
[17:23] <becool> if course you'll have to modify it to match your volume and output path
[17:23] <ctjctj> lordcirth_, I hereby claim that I do know how to read a man page.  And throw myself on the mercy of the court for not reading and find the path option myself.
[17:24] <lordcirth_> ctjctj, you are pardoned :P
[17:24] <becool> brimestone: or 'sudo rsync -aAXv / --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /mnt'
[17:27] <brimestone> Thanks
[17:28] <becool> yw
[17:28] <brimestone> Trying this now
[17:41] <a90c> is there any vpn tool supported by ubuntun in the repository?
[17:41] <becool> openvpn
[17:42] <a90c> becool thanks sorry i mean as service
[17:42] <a90c> Like nordvpn
[17:43] <becool> can try searching the repo 'apt-cache search vpn'
[17:43] <a90c> ok
[17:48] <saor> mullvad > nord
[17:49] <kreyren> which package on ubuntu provides /usr/include/mysql on ubuntu 19.04 ?
[17:52] <a90c> saor: are you using it?
[17:52] <saor> yep
[17:52] <a90c> Does it allow streaming?
[17:53] <a90c> i mean udp ports are open?
[17:54] <saor> like nordvpn it depends on the server
[17:55] <a90c> i hope i can find a promotion code for a month.
[17:55] <a90c> i need to try it
[17:58] <JimBuntu> kreyren, mysql provides the directory /usr/include/mysql
[18:00] <JimBuntu> perhaps you are looking for a mysql-client-x.x.x package, kreyren
[18:14] <ph88> hey guys, in my sound settings only my laptop speakers show up while i have a bluetooth speaker connected and also there should go sound over a HDMI cable ... how can i see the other sound output devices like i saw before ??
[18:17] <cyberyl> hello
[18:20] <sarnold> hello cyberyl
[18:24] <JimBuntu> ph88, which OS version ( guessing 18.04, but who knows, lol ) also, in what settings? As in, do you mean the default GUI settings?  ( asking for a friend )
[18:26] <ph88> when i install the pulseaudio volume control GUI it shows the hdmi as unplugged and the bluetooth device is not shown at all
[18:27] <JimBuntu> ph88, Monitor model please. It may not ( yet? ) be supported.
[18:27] <ph88> it's a laptop
[18:28] <JimBuntu> Yes, but ph88 , the laptop would not be trying to send audio over HDMI, normally, if not connected to an external.
[18:30] <JimBuntu> hence, "unplugged". Meanwhile, are you connected to a Bluetooth device while viewing the settings, as it would also not show up when not connected.
[18:31] <ph88> it's a benq television .. an old model
[18:31] <ph88> i also have a bluetooth speaker, but it doesn't show up as sound device
[18:31] <ph88> to have either one of them working would be fine for now ... i think i will reinstall to 19.10 soon ... been stuck on this LTS for too long imo
[18:32] <ph88> hum let me try to reconnect that bluetooth speaker then
[18:33] <ph88> i exited the sound menu, connected the bluetooth device, went back to the sound menu. Now i still don't see it as output device
[18:42] <molinot> hi
[18:51] <sazawal> Hi all. I have an old laptop hard disk. It could be defected but currently I can access the files. I want to format the whole disk using gparted but it is stuck at "Searching for /dev/sdb partitions". Does it mean that the hard disk is defected?
[18:51] <zaki> hello
[18:51] <sarnold> sazawal: do you see any messages in dmesg that might suggest IO errors?
[18:51] <sarnold> hello zaki
[18:52] <ioria> sazawal, dmesg | grep ata[0-9]
[18:53] <zaki> can't change Grub Resolution, I tried many way , always it change back default resolution which is 1024/768
[18:53] <zaki> Ubuntu 18.04.3
[18:53] <sazawal> ioria, I am not getting any output with that command.
[18:54] <ioria> sazawal, weird
[18:54] <sazawal> ioria, Maybe because I connected it via usb to the laptop
[18:54] <ioria> sazawal, maybe
[18:54] <sazawal> i have an external casing for it
[18:55] <sazawal> sarnold, I see these red lines in dmesg:
[18:55] <sazawal> [19929.480242] print_req_error: critical medium error, dev sdb, sector 7107762 flags 0
[18:55] <sazawal> [19929.480260] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb2, logical block 6388914, async page read
[18:55] <sarnold> almost certainly this drive is dying.
[18:55] <sarnold> maybe it's just the usb controller, but it's probably the drive
[18:56] <sazawal> I see
[18:56] <sazawal> No i have used the usb controller with other disks and it works ok.
[18:56] <ioria> sazawal, run a fsck on sdb
[18:59] <sarnold> I suggest *not* running a fsck on this drive
[18:59] <sarnold> you know the drive is bad
[18:59] <sarnold> do not do anything more with it
[19:00] <sarnold> once you have the replacement drive, rsync everything off of it and then wipe it, recycle it
[19:00] <ioria> it makes no harm
[19:00] <sarnold> it might
[19:05] <sazawal> sarnold, Why not?
[19:07] <sarnold> sazawal: fsck may try to rewrite data structures on failed sections of the drive; it may try to move data or metadata; it might make things worse in the attempt
[19:07] <ioria> only if you say 'y'
[19:08] <sazawal> sarnold, I dont have any useful data on the disk. I thought originally that I will format it and then check the health. And use it if it is healthy
[19:09] <sazawal> By the way there is one partition where windows is installed. Do you think that is causing a problem?
[19:09] <sarnold> ioria: and how would a user know to say y or n? :)
[19:09] <ioria> if it finds errors , well, you know
[19:10] <sarnold> sazawal: no, that message is indicating a hardware flaw of some sort; windows or linux or whatever on the drive owuldn't make a difference :)
[19:10] <sarnold> you can try to run badblocks on the drive to see just how bad it is
[19:10] <sazawal> sarnold, sorry how do I run badblocks on it?
[19:12] <ioria> fsck  -N Don't execute, just show what would be done
[19:12] <sarnold> sazawal: badblocks /dev/sdb should do it
[19:12] <sarnold> ioria: alright, that sounds fine
[19:22] <sazawal> sarnold, It gave me a list of numbers, and still running
[19:22] <sarnold> sazawal: good thing you don't care about the data on this drive :)
[19:24] <sazawal> sarnold, lol
[19:49] <viran> Hey, using dd if=/dev/normal_device of=/dev/mapper/luks_device will result in an encrypted duplicate?
[19:51] <bhibb> Hmm, only done it a handful of times, but I think you need to pass some kind of argument in order to result in an encrypted image, if it's possible. Simply using the "if" and "of" will disrespect the encryption laid down beforehand IIRC.
[19:54] <leftyfb> yeah, that didn't seem to work
[19:54] <leftyfb> _raw_params: cp -ax /{bin,etc,mnt,sbin,lib,lib64} /tmp/tmproot/ cp -ax /usr/{bin,sbin,lib} /tmp/tmproot/usr/ cp -ax /var/{lib,local,lock,opt,run,spool,tmp} /tmp/tmproot/var/
[19:54] <leftyfb> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/JKxvJByBxP/
[19:54] <bhibb> From what I'm reading, it appears that dd is too low-level to care about encryption and simply copies byte for byte.
[19:54] <leftyfb> oops
[19:54] <leftyfb> wrong channel
[19:56] <viran> bhibb: I think since luks is working at kernel level (correct me if im wrong) every write() to the fs is getting encryted... will try to verify by mounting without luks
[19:59] <bhibb> viran: I'll be curious to see your test results.
[20:05] <JimBuntu> That's an unusual password leftyfb ;p ( k, done ) back to offtopic
[20:08] <multifractal> I'm getting an error that the "device not ready" for WIFI. It's a fresh install of 16.04 on a Dell 9370.
[20:09] <JohnDoe2> hey guys, is there a way to disable xfce from automatically starting on display :0 but still have it start on :1 (vnc) ? If I add "3" to boot options I think that will prevent xfce services from loading at all
[20:10] <bhibb> multifractal: Do you have the option to plug in your Dell to apt update before continuing?
[20:10] <multifractal> yes i already did `apt update` and `apt install --reinstall linux-firmware` because I saw that suggestion on askubuntu
[20:11] <bhibb> multifractal: Did it recommend a reboot for the firmware to take effect?
[20:11] <multifractal> no but i did reboot regardless
[20:13] <bhibb> multifractal: Another strange question: have you run upgrade as well?
[20:14] <bhibb> multifractal: In my experience, my WIFI issues have been resolved by making sure the iwan was enabled, that a service was running, and that it was set as my default in config, but that experience is in a fresh install of Arch.
[20:15] <cwayne> multifractal: is there any particular reason to use 16.04 instead of 18.04?
[20:16] <multifractal> no i just only have a 16.04 stick I was going to upgrade once it was installed
[20:17] <bhibb> multifractal: perhaps it will resolve itself if you update to 18.04 with the ethernet connection?
[20:18] <multifractal> i'll try that
[20:21] <TJ-> multifractal: what's the issue? wireless LAN device not appearing?
[20:22] <crorad> hey, i just installed ubuntu on a new HDD so i can run it parallel to windows
[20:22] <crorad> any suggestions on what I do with it? Didn't really have much in mind, just wanted to mess around
[20:24] <Eloquence> Hi there! Are there known performance issues with archive.ubuntu.com currently? Is there a status page somewhere?
[20:25] <sarnold> Eloquence: I can browse around fine, but maybe that's just the IP I hit... what are you seeing?
[20:30] <JonelethIrenicus> so what should i do if i wanna run ubuntu but need a dock?
[20:30] <JonelethIrenicus> any docks that support linux?
[20:30] <JonelethIrenicus> need a dock like the dell d6000
[20:32] <sarnold> I hadn't heard of docks causing issues in a few decades, are they still problems?
[20:33] <bhibb> Peripherals are generally pretty easy with Ubuntu. If you've got it, someone else probably had it before you did.
[20:34] <JonelethIrenicus> bhibb: i have the dell d6000 and it has 3 display ports, only 1 display port works
[20:35] <JonelethIrenicus> bhibb: i read the display link driver requirements and I am meeting them uninstalled the nvidia closed source drivers and installed the open source versions and it still didn't work
[20:35] <TJ-> JonelethIrenicus: how many Outputs does the GPU find and report?
[20:35] <arooni> hey team; i have ubuntu 18.04 running on a lenovo t420.  i CANNOT get suspend to work to save my life and its quite annoying.  often when resuming i see the clock frozen at the time i suspended and mouse and keyboard input is completely frozen; can't switch to a tty and have to restart.  i have 12gb of ram and 12.05gb of swap. i've tried various things including different kernel versions all without results.
[20:35] <arooni> ideas?
[20:35] <JonelethIrenicus> only the builtin display on the laptop and one connected to the dock
[20:36] <bhibb> JonelethIrenicus: that's regrettable :[
[20:36] <JonelethIrenicus> yeah sucks
[20:36] <JonelethIrenicus> bhibb: now i gotta use windows
[20:37] <bhibb> JonelethIrenicus: What version of Ubuntu are you using? And it sounds like you have a discreet graphics card, yeah?
[20:39] <n-iCe> hi
[20:39] <TJ-> JonelethIrenicus: this might give you some clues https://phpboyscout.uk/dell-displaylink-d6000-ubuntu-18-04-issues/
[20:39] <JonelethIrenicus> 19.04
[20:39] <JonelethIrenicus> bhibb: it is a dell xps 15 9570
[20:39] <JonelethIrenicus> everything works on it but the fingerprint sensor
[20:39] <TJ-> arooni: ACPI most likely
[20:40] <bhibb> arooni: What Desktop Environment are you using? I've had that issue with my ThinkPad on XFCE and KDE.
[20:40] <TJ-> arooni: does the system have the acpi_osi workaround in place?
[20:40] <arooni> TJ-: bhibb :  gnome afaik ; not sure how to check;  i did try updating BIOS to latest version and putting a few strings in GRUB too
[20:41] <TJ-> arooni: check out my article: https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[20:42] <arooni> TJ-:you are a life saver.   this is what i had in my /etc/default/grub today: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2009\""
[20:43] <Habbie> i have acpi_osi=Linux because it fixed a bunch of issues
[20:43] <Habbie> but i should look into this some more
[20:44] <Habbie> arooni, acp_osi=! is a typo, right?
[20:44] <arooni> well my suspend/resume is awful so i should look into what i have written there
[20:44] <Habbie> i do not have working resume today (Debian Buster)
[20:45] <arooni> i dont think so Habbie ; at least in TJ- 's article it mentions: "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2015\"""
[20:45] <Habbie> oh sorry
[20:45] <Habbie> TJ-, acp_osi=! is a typo, right?
[20:45] <TJ-> Habbie: no, nothing is a typo
[20:45] <Habbie> ok..
[20:45] <TJ-> arooni: don't try the values I give as examples, it is ESSENTIAL you discover the correct value for your PC using the commands I give
[20:46] <arooni> TJ-: ok i won't skip ahead :P
[20:46] <arooni> man if suspend/resume worked on this; it would make me love ubuntu so much more.  its the only annoying part right now
[20:46] <TJ-> arooni: every PC has it's own set of recognised values so you have to identify the value that seems most recent from your PC's own ACPI DSDT
[20:47] <TJ-> arooni: so "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | sort" will list them, hopefully with the most likely last, which is the one you should use
[20:47]  * arooni is running that now
[20:48] <arooni> https://gist.github.com/arooni/14d0a37e2109c4217d09ef5fd2fe88fe
[20:48] <dbugger> I have sort of a "complicated" configuration here, and I was hoping maybe you can help me.... I want to play with PS4 remote play in my computer. Ubuntu will not support that (I have already search everywhere, and it is unanimous that wont work). So I installed VirtualBox with W10 and everything I need to use Remote Play. But apparently the PS4 controller is not being "forwarded" to the virtual machine, so I cannot control my
[20:48] <dbugger> console. Does anyone know what I could do to solve this?
[20:48] <arooni> interesting; that 2009 i had wasnt even part of that list
[20:48] <TJ-> arooni: so "Windows 2012" would look likely to be your best choice
[20:48] <dbugger> (and yes, my controller does work. I have run games natively in Ubuntu and I can use the controller in them)
[20:49] <arooni> TJ-: so i could try that one; and if it didnt work; try the next last and so on?  and id only know after restarting right?
[20:49] <arooni> since its affecting grub / startup right?
[20:49] <TJ-> arooni: so you can change that easily, with "sudo sed -i 's/2009/2012/' /etc/default/grub" and then do "sudo update-grub"
[20:50] <arooni> are changes immediate?  or would i need to restart first?  i promise i will also read this article you sent me too :P
[20:50] <TJ-> arooni: the most recent (Version of Windows) is almost always the best because it enables the most functionality
[20:50] <Habbie> arooni, grub changes always need a reboot
[20:50] <arooni> interesting; so its superior to putting linux
[20:50] <TJ-> arooni: needs a restart; you're altering the kernel configuration
[20:50] <arooni> TJ-: would me running 5.0.5 version of the kernel screw anything up?
[20:51] <arooni> i only picked a different default version b/c i was trying to make suspend/resume work
[20:51] <TJ-> arooni: MUCH superior, "linux" will only work if the PC's ACPI DSDT tries to match on "linux" string, which almost none do, and when they do, don't enable all functionality
[20:51] <arooni> oh i'm on 5.1.3 apparently
[20:51] <TJ-> arooni: no... generally the more recent the kernel the better chance of it working well
[20:51] <arooni> ah neato.
[20:52] <arooni> didnt know if there was a drawback to moving up kernel versions
[20:53] <TJ-> arooni: the DSDT is actually code written by the PC manufacturer, but executed the running OS kernel, and it enables various power/configuration based on what it thinks the running OS can support. It defaults to a very low set of functions that are rarely properly tested unless it sees the running OS report itself as "Windows 2012" (in your case) so we get Linux to pretend to be that exact version and no
[20:53] <TJ-> other
[20:53] <TJ-> grrr s/ but executed *by* the running OS kernel/
[20:53] <bhibb> TJ: appreciate your walkthrough here, very helpful stuff to read alongside arooni.
[20:54] <arooni> TJ-: the amount of thankfulness i feel towards you for potentially helping me fix the most troublesome issue on my beloved laptop is only really expressible with a massive bitcoin tip of which sadly i do not have the funds for :P
[20:54] <TJ-> if you're interested in more of the ins and outs of how the boot process works, see https://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/
[20:55] <TJ-> arooni: knowing you fixed it is enough for me; I live with these frustrations too so I know how much of a relief the fixes are
[20:56] <TJ-> in particular, if you scroll down and press the "PC Power On" circle in the small diagram it will pop up to full screen at https://iam.tj/prototype/guides/boot/#flowchart
[20:56] <arooni> TJ-: well in that case i'm very glad to hear that.  just out of curiosity; are there any other benefits to moving to the latest acpi/dsdt version besides suspendresume working better?  also for fun what would the effect of putting windows 2009 like i had before be if apparently my laptop didnt even list it with that sudo command?
[20:58] <TJ-> arooni: usually there are hidden benefits such as better battery performance... I know of a few people who needed it to enable external monitor ports that disappeared after a suspend/resume ... wifi devices that don't work properly, and more
[20:58] <arooni> ooh neato;  i need all the battery help i can get now that i upgraded my dual core 2520 to a quad core 2670; its 10W more power  consumption :(
[20:58] <TJ-> arooni: DSDT code is executed at boot-time and on suspend/resume operation which is why setting the OSI makes a difference
[20:59] <arooni> but loving all 4 of those cores .... can never go back on my next laptop
[20:59] <TJ-> arooni: I'm looking forward to my 64-core AMD Zen 2 laptop that has 30 minutes of battery life :D
[20:59] <arooni> and i thought i was a rich man with my 4 cores lolzzzzz
[21:00] <TJ-> provided I can get as much done in those 30 minutes as I would in 8 hours on another system :p
[21:00] <arooni> hahahha
[21:19] <kur1j> im having issues with NFS mounting when krb5p is instabled, I keep getting errors saying Protocol not supported
[21:20] <kur1j> someone said I need to enable nfs-secure on my client however I don't know what configuration file that would be in
[21:36] <kreyren> JimBuntu, thanks
[22:42] <ironpillow> Hi all, is it possible to restore ubuntu server to a previous state instead of installing. I am using ubuntu server 18.04 on headless box. I will testing out a bunch of software and will have to test multiple versions. It's hardware dependent. So is there a way to start ubuntu in clean state rather than install again and again. Thanks!
[22:49] <flog> ironpillow: not that i know docker myself but depending on what you are installing docker might be the thing for you.
[22:52] <ironpillow> flog: I tried to use docker but I need many packages (like netplan) and also need access to hardware NICs.
[22:55] <flog> So it wont work with dockers networking?
[22:56] <TJ-> ironpillow: install using LVM and enable snapshots so you can take a snapshot of the pristine system install, then install your test software, then rollback to the snapshot and test the next, and so on