[00:13] Bashing-om : Hi. Am back. It didn't work, though :'( [00:14] what's the issue? i just joined [00:15] hey Sveta, after a recent update, rebooting leads to "It keeps blinking purple and black, blank," [00:16] Sveta: Am unable to boot the system, expect through RECOVERY MODE in GRUB MENU. Exactly the issue as told by sarnold [00:16] Sveta: ht3567 :: only boots from recovery mode - Intel graphics and driver is available - system updated . [00:16] **except [00:20] Also... Something which might give an idea... If I go to GRUB, Advanced Options, and select normal mode, it displays a black screen with several [Hardware Error] messages, similar to what was being displayed, when I first tried to install LinuxMint by creating a bootable PenDrive. [00:21] I later installed Mint using a pendrive offered by a professional, but switched to Ubuntu because my system specifications were probable too low, to handle Mint [00:22] Is tesseract just broken in 18.04? [00:23] Every attempt I make ot use it gives me: read_params_file: parameter not found: MM === zenguy is now known as coffeeguy [00:24] ht3567: While we all cogitate - does a liveUSB of ubuntu boot ? [00:26] !info tesseract bionic | kyle__ So what is the App, and where did you get it ? [00:26] kyle__ So what is the App, and where did you get it ?: Package tesseract does not exist in bionic [00:26] Bashing-om: I'll actually have to create a new bootable PD... The one I used to Install my current system around a couple of weeks ago is with a cousin, hence not in my possession...!! [00:28] ht3567: Was but a thought - trying to think of a means where we can get some more info. [00:31] Bashing-om: Heartiest thanks, really. The problem is unfortunate, but a community backing you up with so much of patience, is more than anything I could've asked for. [00:32] ht3567: Hey it is our community - where all for one and 1 for all :P [00:33] ht3567: Just racking my brain to come up with a means to gain some useful info. [00:36] ht3567: Is this a lap top system and were the errors that you saw ACPI related ? [00:37] Bashing-om: It is a laptop system, yeah. [00:38] Bashing-om: I couldn't make any head-or-tail of the errors. [00:39] ht3567: Try this tutorial to change the DSDT: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html. See then if the errors go away. [00:41] Bashing-om: I got it from apt-get [00:42] apt-get install tesseract-ocr and tesseract-ocr-eng I think were the package names [00:42] Ahh tesseract-ocr-eng tesseract-ocr [00:42] Sorry was afk for a moment. [00:42] neat [00:43] Bashing-om: Will do. And 'if' that doesn't work, and I create another bootable PenDrive, I remember some option of REPAIR, alongside INSTALL. Will I have to create a backup of personal files stored on my hard disk while attempting repair, too? [00:43] (Just in case other things don't work out) [00:44] I already tried an apt-get install --reinstall, and I cant find any old config files for tesseract in any obvious places. [00:45] kyle__: Also need "tesseract-ocr-osd" - is it also installed ? [00:45] Yes [00:47] Bashing-om: I was downloading a ISO image of Ubuntu 18.04, and it's asking me if I wish to start restoring it on my internal Hard Disk. Can that help? [00:49] i.e., will that work like the liveUSB you were telling me of, earlier? [00:51] ... [00:51] ht3567: Hard to say about re-installing if that will help. we do not have enough info to make any judgements at this time. [00:52] just try the live cd without installing it, to test [00:52] I just had the most obvious idea: test it in a docker of 18.04 read_params_file: parameter not found: MM [00:52] Should have thought of that first. [00:52] ???? [00:53] kyle__: what did you specify in your param file? [00:53] :/ my paste buffer is not working right.. [00:53] sarnold: Nothing. I did a fresh install, moved my /home over, and reinstalled the packages based on a dump of dpkg --get-selections on my old box [00:54] kyle__: ah. try writing a params file? [00:54] Does it need a params file? I haven't called it directly for ages, so I can't recall [00:54] Bashing-om: Sveta:: Will restoring the ISO image on my internal hard disk make the image function as a live CD or USB without modifying the personal files stored, or is there no si=uch thing? [00:55] ** such [00:56] ht3567: the .iso is just a file - until it it uncompressed to a different medium it just sits there taking up disk space. [00:57] kyle__: no idea, I've never tried tesseract :) but it says it's trying to read one, you might as well make one and see if it helps :) [00:58] Bashing-om: Okay... I'll grab a pendrive, and see if that helps, and will first try the link you sent. Thanks for your time and insight. :D [00:58] Heh. Fair point. [00:58] A docker of ubuntu:18.04 exhibits the same behavior I'm seeing on my desktop [00:58] ht3567: We are here to the end - booting a liveUSB is a good start to the trouble shooting . [01:03] >_< [01:03] kyle__: did you have any luck with the params file? [01:04] Wow. I spent plenty of time today fixing long dashes in a powerpoint at work, that it "helpfully" replaced every instance of -- with [01:04] oh god. em dashes? [01:04] And I didn't think to compare the web-rendered manpage to the console one. [01:05] sarnold: Yeah, I was making a training deck to show how to use openstack. [01:06] And low and behold, the error I'm seeing is what happens when you type -psm and not --psm. Because I wasn't looking for the misrendered -- as emdash [01:06] aaarrrggghhh. stupid autocorrect. [01:07] I don't mind autocorrect in a word processor, when it's correcting WORDS, but I hate it correcting punctuation or capitalization. 90% of the time I'm using a word processor it's to wirte technical docs or presentations, and the other 10% is helping my kids with homework. === zbenjamin is now known as Guest68778 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:11] fighting that kind of stuff was half of what pushed me to latex back in the day.. [01:11] Over 90% linux servers at work, but 0% linux desktops. The closest I could get was a macbook, and that's considered experimental there. [01:12] Which is a long way of saying, office-365 on a mac is as non-windowsy as I can get for making a presentation there :) [01:13] Hello channel [01:13] what's the latest supported gnome on 18.04 lts [01:14] !info gnome-shell bionic [01:14] gnome-shell (source: gnome-shell): graphical shell for the GNOME desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 3.28.4-0ubuntu18.04.1 (bionic), package size 672 kB, installed size 7415 kB [01:14] mia: ^ [01:14] thanks lotuspsychje [01:14] hello [01:15] so I'm having a butt ton of trouble getting ubuntu working on my new Ryzen 3600 rig (with Vega 56 as my GPU) [01:15] I know there's the infamous RDRAND bug, and I heard the workaround for that is to install an old version of ubuntu (i used 18.04) and upgrade to 19.04 [01:16] i did that so I got it booting, but now ive noticed an issue with the suspend functionality [01:16] when I come back out of suspend the system freezes [01:16] Couldn't really pull the log off of it after boot either [01:17] anyone have any fixes for this issue? I've seen a workaround that involves disabling P states but that's basically just crippling so much power saving features I don't really see the point [01:18] hatsunearu: for ryzen, we getting several storys & bugs, we have some users sticking on 4.19 kernel, iwould advice playing around with !mainline [01:18] !mainline | hatsunearu [01:18] hatsunearu: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [01:19] hatsunearu: can you tell us wich kernel you are on now? [01:19] uname -a for that info right [01:19] hatsunearu: What is the motherboard ? AMD has issued patches for the Ryzen300 series : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-3000-BIOS-Update-Good [01:19] MSI b450 gaming ac itx [01:19] i don't think they have the patch out yet :( [01:20] i actually don't know if the suspend issue is a symptom of the rdrand issue [01:20] Linux HOSTNAME 5.0.0-27-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 20 19:53:07 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [01:20] lotuspsychje ^ there you go [01:20] ok tnx [01:21] hatsunearu: maybe for starters, try 4.19 and latest 5.3 or so? [01:21] how do i do that? [01:21] hatsunearu: read the mainline wiki, its described howto [01:21] thanks [01:21] hmm [01:21] i have virtualbox installed [01:22] is there a list i can pull up to find things to remove? [01:23] lotuspsychje should i get the newest rc of the newest version [01:23] hatsunearu: the users choice, but sure why not [01:25] whats the difference between: [01:25] linux-headers-5.3.0-050300rc7_5.3.0-050300rc7.201909021831_all.deb [01:25] linux-headers-5.3.0-050300rc7-generic_5.3.0-050300rc7.201909021831_amd64.deb [01:25] dpkg also complains that the headers package is missing [01:26] wait im dumb hold on [01:27] hatsunearu: it worked, when you: sudo update-grub and the kernel showing in your list [01:27] lotuspsychje which packages do i need to install? [01:27] https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.3-rc7/ [01:27] in here, there's headers, image and modules [01:27] all three? [01:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds#Choose_the_proper_upstream_kernel_files [01:27] yes [01:28] follow the 'a' selection [01:28] hatsunearu: just not lowlatency [01:28] yeah [01:28] thanks OerHeks also getting some dependency errors installing the image package [01:29] hatsunearu: did you add external ppa's to your system? [01:29] ah wait i think i got it [01:30] alright gonna reboot see you in a bitr [01:30] famous last works :P [01:33] im back [01:33] im back [01:33] forgot your name :( [01:33] hatsunearu: wb [01:33] should i just go ahead and test the suspend? [01:33] hey [01:34] uname -a says 5.30 [01:34] hatsunearu: yeah, compare your system to your former issues [01:36] rip, didn't work [01:36] rip, didn't work [01:36] computer still froze on unsuspend [01:37] hatsunearu: bios up to date? [01:37] i didn't install the beta bios [01:37] maybe i should try that [01:37] it just says "improve memory compatibility" [01:37] i also disabled XMP [01:39] brb bios update [01:46] lotuspsychje, came back with my laptop [01:46] hatsunearu: how goes [01:47] updating bios [01:47] fingers crossed [01:47] :p [01:47] also MSI's software is super chinesium so yeha [01:47] i've had suspend issues on *windows* [01:47] the network adapter disappears after suspend [01:53] rip, still doesn't work [01:53] lotuspsychje, any other ideas? [01:53] how do you get the log anyways? i thought i looked in the "logs" program but idk if that's the best method [01:53] !dmesg | hatsunearu [01:53] hatsunearu: dmesg is a console command which outputs the kernel ring buffer - an important log for diagnosing problems in Linux. Often when something errors with hardware it will result in additional lines reported which can be seen by running dmesg in a console. [01:54] hatsunearu: you can also while you play, open a: journalctl -f [01:54] i thought dmesg doesn't show me logs from the "last" boot [01:54] cause like when i suspend and wake up [01:54] system's dead [01:54] oh that's /werid/ [01:54] system didn't reboot after the hw reboot button [01:54] very scary [01:54] hatsunearu: whats your graphics card/driver version? [01:55] RX Vega 56 [01:55] not sure how to check drivers. is there a place to install driver [01:56] hatsunearu: stock amdgpu or did you install from amd? [01:56] didn't install anything explicitly [01:56] ok [01:56] hatsunearu: can you share your dmesg please? lets have a look whats going on in there [01:57] lotuspsychje, is there a way of viewing the dmesg from the "last" boot [01:57] like before it died [01:57] hatsunearu: lets start with your current dmesg [01:58] share here hatsunearu plz, other volunteers always ready to think along with us [01:59] pastebin.com/SH2iDymK [02:00] hatsunearu: your ryzen machine is a lenovo? [02:00] what [02:00] no? [02:00] line number please? [02:01] i have an old SSD from my lenovo laptop in the desktop [02:01] though the boot drive should be from an nvme m.2 [02:01] nvm [02:02] i am on irc on my lenovo laptop :P [02:05] hatsunearu: sudo lshw -C video plz === hatsunearu is now known as hatsunearu_ [02:07] lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/JQ0TksJU [02:08] hatsunearu: ok, looks loaded [02:08] ok [02:09] hatsunearu_: dmesg showing few amdgpu & iwlwifi issues, but not sure yet whats going on for you [02:10] hatsunearu_: we have few bugs with realtek 8169 too doing weird things with system, power related on kernel 5.0 series too [02:11] whats that [02:11] realtek 8169 [02:11] is that the wifi? [02:11] or is that the ethernet [02:11] hatsunearu_: sudo lshw -C network will show you [02:11] oh dang, it is the ethernet :( [02:11] hatsunearu_: can you try this kernel lin in your grub: i915.fastboot=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=4 [02:11] *line [02:12] intel? [02:12] also is that edited by pressing E in the grub menus [02:12] hatsunearu_: you can edit /etc/default/grub if you like, then sudo update-grub [02:12] oh i alreayd rebooted :( [02:13] lotuspsychje, can i do it in the grub menu [02:13] ahh ill jsut reboot [02:14] sure [02:15] im an idiot [02:15] fogot to update-grub [02:17] lotuspsychje, update-grub says i915.fastboot=0 not found [02:17] i put the lines at the bottom of the /etc/default/grub file [02:18] hatsunearu_: you added it like this? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.fastboot=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=4" [02:19] yeah oops [02:19] rebootin [02:21] nope :( [02:21] lotuspsychje, didn't seem to work [02:21] hatsunearu_: ok tnx anyway for testing [02:21] hatsunearu_: you can edit back to 'quiet splash' now [02:22] and sudo update-grub [02:22] what a bummer [02:22] i hate realtek :( [02:22] hatsunearu_: 2 more ideas would be kernel 4.19 and !acpi bootlines [02:23] (can you get better hardware?) [02:23] !acpi [02:23] to debug ACPI issues on ubuntu make sure your bios is up to date and follow the procedure here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI [02:23] !acpi bootlines [02:23] ubottu [02:23] nice name [02:23] yeah he's our friend :p [02:27] lotuspsychje, is there a way of grabbing logs right before it dies?\ [02:28] cause like my laptop is also having random death issues and i have correlated it with the mobile broadband modem (i'll get to it eventually) [02:28] hatsunearu_: think journal has some tricks to dig in the past [02:28] ah mind sharing that journalctl command again [02:28] it died in the firey reboot [02:29] hatsunearu_: journalctl -b -1 for example [02:30] last message is "suspending system..." [02:30] hehe [02:30] lotuspsychje, did you notice the iwlwifi microcode SW error detected message? [02:30] hatsunearu_: maybe take a look in /var/crash too [02:31] empty [02:31] hatsunearu_: yeah i saw the iwlwifi issues, we had some reports on that too recently [02:32] is there a way of disabling the wifi and the ethernet meme to isolate it? [02:32] but if it is ethernet... i'm kinda boned. i need ethernet (obviously) [02:33] hatsunearu_: this solved the bug, but not sure its related to you right: bug #1842686 [02:33] bug 1842686 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wifi adapter not found after -60" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842686 === ausjke is now known as rr123 [02:37] lotuspsychje, is there a workaround [02:37] also can i just disable the PCI device or something like that [02:37] prevent the driver from coming up [02:37] i mean no network but suspend doesn't require internet access [02:38] hatsunearu_: you can try blacklisting your wifi module [02:38] so you only have ethernet [02:38] how would i do that again.. [02:39] also how do i make ubuntu turn off the monitors? maybe i won't enjoy the power savings but i at least want the montiors dark so i can sleep [02:39] hatsunearu_: edit /etc/modprobe.d./blacklist.conf and blacklist iwlwifi [02:41] lotuspsychje, general question: how do i know what device has what drivers loaded [02:41] so if i wanted to disable a random thing where would i look that up [02:42] hatsunearu_: lsmod [02:42] ah [02:44] PLEASE [02:44] rip :( [02:48] lotuspsychje, i blacklisted r8169 but somehow it got loaded anyways [02:48] hatsunearu_: r8169 is your ethernet right? [02:48] hatsunearu_: turning off monitors is usually xset dpms -- xset dpms force should turn off the monitors asap if you don't want to wait [02:49] sarnold, `xset dpms`? [02:50] didn't do anything hmm [02:50] lotuspsychje, yes my ethernet [02:50] i still have internet access and r8169 is listed in the lsmod [02:50] hatsunearu_: if you run xset q you'll see the current settings [02:50] hatsunearu_: just run a bare 'xset' to see your options [02:51] oh ok [02:51] it turns off on its own [02:51] i just want a button to do it [02:53] try xset dpms force [02:54] when I use the "Test Speakers" button from the settings panel I hear audio, otherwise there is no audio on my system -- what is the issue here? thanks [02:55] sarnold, it says missing argument [02:55] lotuspsychje, any ideas on disabling r8169? [02:55] blacklisting [02:55] frib, did you install restricted extras? [02:56] hatsunearu_: after adding it, did you reboot? [02:56] yeah [02:56] hatsunearu_: sorry, xset dpms force off , xset dpms force standby, etc. whatever works [02:56] ah oka [02:56] OerHeks, no, it seems this started since I used my HDMI port for the first time in a long time a few days ago, but I haven't really noticed it [02:57] hatsunearu_: try several, not all work on my monitor [02:57] hatsunearu_: maybe if you got bios option, turn off there [02:57] dont think there was [02:57] frib, any more information that we should be aware of? [02:57] sarnold, worked, thanks! [02:57] OerHeks, I really don't even know if that is related. I have no idea why this happened [02:57] woot :) [02:58] OerHeks, even when I change the volume from the settings panel it used to make those popping sounds, but it doesn't anymore -- *only* test speakers works [02:58] yeah hmm that's weird [02:58] i can't blacklist [03:01] ok, got the blacklist working [03:01] dang. still doesn't work [03:01] so much for that theory [03:02] lotuspsychje, what's significant about 4.19? [03:02] hatsunearu_: well i hear good things about ryzen and 4.19, doing what its suppose to be [03:02] oh [03:02] hatsunearu_: cant harm to test right [03:03] if it works, then does that mean i have to be on an old kernel? :( [03:03] hatsunearu_: well lets test things first [03:03] hatsunearu_: one of our volunteers runs gentoo with 4.19 [03:04] ok [03:04] do i download from 4.19 or 4.19.69 [03:04] hatsunearu_: try plain 4.19 for start yeah [03:06] oh shit [03:06] i installed .69 [03:06] ah well ill test that [03:06] hatsunearu_: try anyway [03:08] lol it worked [03:08] lotuspsychje, now what :( [03:08] what worked [03:08] 4.19.69 [03:08] hatsunearu_: you mean it fixxed your suspend? [03:08] yup [03:08] lol jeez [03:08] am i stuck in 4land then? [03:08] what happened between 4.19.69 and 5? [03:09] is it the spectre etc mitigations [03:09] hatsunearu_: well surely file a bug for 5.0 -27 right [03:09] oh shit [03:09] i get to be a bug reporter? [03:09] * hatsunearu_ gets the big boy pants [03:09] plz no swear in main support :p [03:09] sorry :3 [03:09] also [03:09] i want to isolate if it's amdgpu [03:10] but i can't, because there's no onboard graphics [03:10] shucks [03:10] pants? [03:10] hatsunearu_: let the devs search for it, ubuntu-bug linux from 5.0 -27 [03:10] so uh [03:10] what should i do [03:11] hatsunearu_: what i say, bug it [03:11] i dont know how lol :| [03:11] hatsunearu_: just said it, boot into -27 and from terminal: ubuntu-bug linux [03:11] i'm not sure what details i need to include [03:11] oh, [03:11] hatsunearu_: got a launchpad account? [03:12] ill make one [03:12] cool [03:14] hatsunearu_: ubuntu-bug will drag all your info the the bug, you just add a title and describe your full story, mentioning your kernel tests and 4.19 fix [03:14] hatsunearu_: and tnx for helping out the community ok [03:15] well idk if i'm helping out lol [03:15] you are [03:15] i just have bad experiences with filing bug reports [03:15] shit gets ignored and sometimes i get humiliated :( [03:16] oh i swore again sorry [03:17] hmm [03:17] i swore and Obscenity walks in [03:24] lotuspsychje, submitted! hopefully it gets fixed soon :D [03:24] can i delete the 5.3 rc7? [03:26] I have a couple of ubuntu18.04 servers running on VMware. One of the servers is loosing DHCP lease every 3 hours. Is there anything on the server I can check to see what is causing this server to loose DHCP lease? [03:26] boot back in the old kernel, and remove 5.3 [03:26] hopefully i did it right [03:26] OerHeks, actually which tool do i need to uninstall? [03:28] OerHeks, is there any hope of fixing the problem? [03:28] easy would be terminal, just page up, and edit the apt command install \ > remove [03:29] i used dpkg to install though [03:29] ah used apt to remove ty [03:30] now i wait, i guess [03:33] frib, what if you openend terminal: alsamixer # and select with F6 device, does hdmi work? and fiddle around with the sliders, some might be at 0 [03:36] OerHeks, is there a gui version of this? [03:36] my F6 key is out of service [03:36] just the sound menu, should work too? [03:37] interesting you come up with a broken F6 [03:39] OerHeks, it's not broken physically but it has one of those function features [03:40] and it only does that special function, not "F6" [03:40] ok, try Function F6 [03:40] JimBuntu, I did [03:40] hrm frib , sounds like the keyboard isn't using standard key mapping [03:41] JimBuntu, I'm using fluxbox [03:41] oh, not a standard de .. [03:41] maybe it is a flucbox sound issue, dunno [03:41] I've been using fluxbox for like 5 years [03:45] frib, please re-iterate the issue. Last I saw you have audio when you use the test audio feature, but otherwise no. Would probably help others [03:46] JimBuntu, the only audio that works on my system currently is when I click "Test Speakers" [03:47] it says "Front Left, Front Right" [03:47] maybe some other audio works that I dont' know of, but as of right now that's all I know works [03:47] That is so odd frib, I don't think I can help, but hope someone else can. Which version of ubuntu? [03:48] 18.04 -- I know it's odd believe me lol [03:48] I believe it! So, 18.04 Ubuntu, audio only plays when using the test audio feature. Anyone can help? suggestions or questions? [04:01] i tried set daily cron job for starting the skypeforlinux @8:30 but no luck [04:15] hatsunearu_: thank you for taking your time to file bug 1842785 [04:15] bug 1842785 in linux (Ubuntu) "Freeze after waking up from suspend on a Ryzen 3000 based system" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842785 [04:16] hatsunearu_: the devs will help you now, if you need help about the bisecting, please join #ubuntu-kernel [04:17] gotta sleep soon, but i'll tkae a look tomorrow [04:17] i also have a concussion so it's a little hard to think :( [04:17] ok tnx again for filing it gabmus[m] [04:17] hatsunearu_ [04:17] no problem [04:17] thanks for helping me [04:17] welcome [04:17] wait what's a kernel bisection [04:18] hatsunearu_: bisecting kernel, means tracing wich commit is causing the trouble in the kernel [04:18] is it just a search of which kernel version causes the issue? [04:19] hatsunearu_: no, its a method of debugging the commits in the kernel [04:19] wait do i need to get down to which git commit caused the issue? [04:20] hatsunearu_: there are tools to do it for you, but yes its a bit tracing [04:20] oof sounds like a lot of work [04:20] yes [04:20] is kaiheng feng asking me to do a version bisect or a commit bisect? [04:21] well i guess this is the fair price to pay to get it fixed :P [04:22] hatsunearu_: kai is the dev yeah, but i suggest you go ask in #ubuntu-kernel for a howto [04:22] okay [04:22] ill probably come back later though [04:22] thanks! [04:22] great! [06:40] Hi all, Is there a place to find out status on archive.ubuntu.com and mirrors, we've been experiencing packet loss and high latency when installing packages today. [06:42] Hi [06:42]