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ironpillowTJ-: thanks! I will look into it00:34
JohnDoe2so apparently an xorg extension vnc server is more efficient than a scraping vnc server. Does anyone know why? In my mind having another xfce session start is just more RAM load.01:21
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henninbhi, having trouble with xrdp, I am getting the following error. "KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor". not finding a solution, any ideas?01:45
the_last_Can someone please help me with a monitor issue I'm having? I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 with i3-wm, and nvidia-driver-430. After Ubuntu puts itself to sleep after inactivity, and I log back in, only 2 out of my 3 monitors turn back on. My primary monitor (display port), and my second monitor (hdmi), but my third display port monitor does not turn on. If I look in nvidia-settings it's listed as "disabled". If I enable it in there, it does02:00
the_last_nothing. If I unplug the monitor and plug it back in it then gets recognized and functions as normal. Any idea where I can go from here? Thanks.02:00
chietai've tried execute skypeforlinux command via cron everyday 16:00 but no luck ... the command executed but the window not appear02:10
golden_ticketUbuntu keeps crashing with a message, "kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt"02:24
golden_ticketCan anyone help me figure out why it is doing this and how to stop it?02:25
chietawhat's your environment golden_ticket, how to produce that error?02:31
golden_ticketi'm just going to do a fresh install02:32
golden_ticketthanks anyway chieta02:32
Svetawhen did it start?02:32
golden_tickettoday02:32
chietawhich ubuntu release to be installed?02:32
golden_ticketI really  haven't done anything with the OS either02:32
golden_ticketIt's version 18.0402:33
chietahow about 19.04?02:33
golden_ticketI don't want to be so bold02:33
chietanoted, what's your box?02:33
golden_ticketi don't understand that question02:34
chietahow abut ubuntu livecd for check your hardware supported or not?02:34
golden_ticketit should be. I've done this 100 times before on the same thing02:34
mysticBest video/,media player for Ubuntu 18?02:43
chietaif you want tried the latest 18.0402:54
chietato get the latest kernel... hope it help golden_ticket02:55
truexfan81how much longer is 19.04 supported?02:57
Bashing-omtruexfan81: 19.04: 19 == 2019. 04 == April - is an interum release ( LTS is every 2 years ) .. so 19.04 ha 9 months of support == EOL Jan 2020.03:01
truexfan81hmm maybe i'll upgrade it to the next lts when that comes out and then stay on that for awhile03:02
Bashing-omtruexfan81: Next LTS is 20.04 ,, Be a while yet :P03:02
truexfan81true, i guess there will be a 19.09 i'll have to upgrade to first?03:03
Bashing-omtruexfan81: 19.10 . yep .. that is the path, in your case :)03:04
truexfan81that works thank you03:04
golden_ticketchieta, are you saying if I change my kernel, that might fix this error?03:09
Bashing-omgolden_ticket: Have you tried booting a different kernel from grub's boot menu ?03:16
golden_ticketBashing-om, no03:20
Bashing-omgolden_ticket: The kernel panic "could" be something in that current booting kerenl. Will only take a minute or so to try an alternate installed kernel. That is why the system does not remove old kernels :)03:23
gdoteofshould `sudo usermod -a -G "www-data" myusername`  add myusername to the www-data group?03:24
gdoteofbecause its not and i am not sure why03:24
golden_ticketBashing-om, i'll give it a try03:25
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magic_ninja_workhow would i go about setting my graphics driver target to 435?04:02
magic_ninja_workI've added the graphics ppa and its target is 43004:03
Bashing-ommagic_ninja_work: What relese is intalled and what card ? could be the release and/or the card does not support the recent 435 version driver.04:09
Bashing-ominstalled*04:09
magic_ninja_work19.04 and 960M04:09
magic_ninja_workI'm sure 435 supports the card. It is intel/960 hybrid graphics. Bashing-om04:10
magic_ninja_workI see the package nvidia-graphics-drivers-43504:10
magic_ninja_workBashing-om, seems you are correct, though, and the system can't find the 435 drivers for 19.04. They just show them for 18.04.04:11
Bashing-ommagic_ninja_work: Strange: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa // yepper no 435 version for 19.04 .. I find that odd :(04:14
magic_ninja_work me as well. They have 18.04 but don't have the intermediate release one, which is the one that is supposed to get it.04:14
Bashing-ommagic_ninja_work: Just a surmise on my part - the developers pulled 435 for more tweaking ?04:19
magic_ninja_workWell, I've check it several times and have not seen it on there for 19.04 at all, but it absolutely could be.04:20
Chaos_ZeroOn 18.04, I have two monitors, with the left one being detatchable.  I want to make the right one 'primary' such that all windows say there/ open there and I only put things on the left one manually. By default, it seems like as soon as I plugin the second, left one, all previous windows get shifted over there. How can I swap it around?04:26
magic_ninja_workthere is a setup in the system settings app to handle your displays.04:27
Chaos_ZeroIn 'displays' I have good settings for moving and enabling / disabling them, but nothing about primary04:28
magic_ninja_workhttps://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=select+primary+monitor+on+gnome&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-804:31
magic_ninja_workTry some of those.04:31
nikolamWhat is recommended way to get ZFS newer then 0.7 for Ubuntu 19.04 (like 0.8.1 ) ?04:38
nikolamI used to compile my own packages locally, and it worked, but used to complain on them on every package operation, so that's now nice solution I think.04:39
nikolamI see here is packge for 19.10 (btw I dislike release code names) , but not for 19.04: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/eoan/+source/zfs-linux04:40
Svetanikolam: hi! does it have to be zfs-linux package? I don't see that at https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=zfs&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all04:50
Svetanikolam: what package name do you want to upgrade to the newer version?04:51
Svetanikolam, for example, 'zfs-dkms' 0.7 is available in disco04:52
Svetanikolam, https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/zfs-dkms04:52
nikolamI would like to use newer features of OpenZFS/zfsonlinux, that are in 0.8.1 and not in 0.7 , like transparent encryption.05:08
nikolamI also don't care for Ubuntu code names, I think 19.04 , 19.10 means more.05:09
nikolamI have build my own packages again, with dpkg-source -x and dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc , but I envision again problems while updating if I install them (e.g. constant labeling locally-built packages as somehow wrong or broken during update)05:14
nikolamMaybe I should just use another Linux distro, if I want newer packages is supported release.05:15
nikolamalso, doe Ubuntu fail to boot if some of the mounts in /etc/fstab fails to mount?05:49
doug16knikolam, adding the nobootwait option on non-critical mounts will make it not worry about mount failures too much05:58
doug16kthere's also nofail05:59
nikolambut default behavior is it fails to boot if mount point is not there?05:59
gbellinozHow do I identify exactly what packages are security updates that /usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check  reports? Every method I've found on the web hasn't matched its count.06:01
doug16kI think auto and default options make it fail to boot if it fails to mount06:01
doug16knot something I run into often, not sure06:02
sohail-ahmedWould some body please help in connecting wifi whose usr name and pswd I know?06:02
gbellinozwifi doesn't have a "usr name" sohail-ahmed ?06:06
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: correct, wifi authentication I meant06:06
gbellinozAre you using a GUI or the command line?06:07
nikolamdoug16k, it is really sad default behavior .. I think if I have single drive failing in /etc/fstab that shouldn't be the reason to halt whole machine and give unexpecting user a ROOT prompt.06:07
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: right now gui, but I can use command line06:07
gbellinozGnome desktop (standard Ubuntu)?06:07
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: yes I think its standard06:08
gbellinozSo do you have the little WiFi networking symbol in the upper right corner?06:08
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: yes06:08
gbellinozAnd when you click on that does it list your WiFi network's name?06:09
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: yes06:09
gbellinozThen what happens?06:09
sohail-ahmedI clik on the select network, and then the network I want to connect to... a gui appears with many boxes, authetication, usr name, pass, etc ... I tried all options but it trys connecting but then says password is incorrect06:11
gbellinozScreenshot?06:11
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: ok.06:11
gbellinozI don't think I've seen it ask for a username.06:11
gbellinozMaybe you have some setup I don't know about.06:11
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: no. It does not ask for a usr name... I put it in the blanks06:12
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: in the gui that appears after clicking over the avaiable networks06:12
gbellinozOh, you said usr name again up there. A screenshot would help here. I don't have a lot of experience, but that might make your issue clearer and some else will chime in.06:13
nikolamdoug16k, thanks for advice on mount options06:13
doug16ksohail-ahmed, if you press print-scrn on your keyboard, a screenshot should appear in your home Pictures directory06:13
doug16knikolam, np06:13
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: where should I upload the ss? I dont think pastebin allows it06:16
gbellinozimgur?06:16
doug16kI like this one, no BS -> http://pasteall.org/pic/06:17
gbellinozThey wait until it gets popular, then suddenly, login req'd, paid plans available, hey, pop-up, do you want 30 days free?06:19
doug16kbeen free for years06:19
doug16kit's primarily for sharing blender files, images are secondary there06:20
gbellinozThat's amazing. And no GA or FB scripts....06:20
gbellinozLike the web used to be :)06:21
doug16kexactly06:21
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: sorry Imugr was taking time, so choose something else: https://prnt.sc/p2i6vv06:23
gbellinozif only someone had mentioned that.06:23
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: sorry?06:25
gbellinozread the chat above.06:25
sohail-ahmedgbellinoz: ok, here it is:http://pasteall.org/pic/59c5566be6850b01d2d5fc1c8957057806:26
doug16ksohail-ahmed, were you given instructions telling you to select Tunneled TLS by someone running that network?06:30
doug16ksame question about the inner authentication protocol06:31
sohail-ahmeddoug16k: no. The system automatically selected it and though I tried different combinations with both06:31
doug16ksohail-ahmed, try Protected EAP06:35
sohail-ahmeddoug16k: peap version?06:35
doug16kdon't know, try higher and go down from there if it doesn't work06:36
sohail-ahmeddoug16k: yes Its connected. Thank you very much to you and @gbellion for all the help. Have a very blessed day!!!!06:39
doug16knice06:39
Gigabittenis there anything wrong with this fstab entry? because when I put it in and boot into lubuntu, I end up in recovery mode.06:48
GigabittenUUID=aee19d0f-9fb7-4339-bc81-a998d7449055 /home/caleb/D ntfs auto rwx,user,auto 0 0UUID=aee19d0f-9fb7-4339-bc81-a998d744905506:49
Gigabittenoh no06:49
Gigabittenexcuse the part at the end there, that's not in the original version and is due to something funky with emacs I think06:49
GigabittenUUID=aee19d0f-9fb7-4339-bc81-a998d7449055 /home/caleb/D ntfs auto rwx,user,auto 0 006:49
Gigabittenthis was the entry06:50
Gigabittenactually maybe I just double tapped C-y by accident06:50
Gigabittenand didn't delete it all06:50
Gigabitten(had to grab the line from /etc/fstab~ and copy it into fstab)06:51
glitchdanyone know why grub would refuse to put windows 10 into the menu? this is a new build. im running 2 ssd's. linux on one, windows on the other. and not matter what i do, it will not add windows to grub. advice?07:03
EoflaOEglitchd: Not even update-grub adds Windows 10?07:04
glitchdEoflaOE, nope, even ran os-prober, but that didnt even find windows.07:05
glitchdEoflaOE, but if i select that drive that windwos is on at boot, it loads it just fine07:05
EoflaOEglitchd: According to "fdisk -l", which partition did you install Windows 10 on? And is your system UEFI?07:07
glitchdEoflaOE, heres lsblk, https://pastebin.com/TsGH0dUs07:09
glitchdand here is fdisk -l07:09
glitchdsudo fdisk -l07:09
glitchdDisk /dev/loop0: 14.8 MiB, 15462400 bytes, 30200 sectors07:09
glitchdUnits: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes07:09
glitchdSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes07:09
glitchdI/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes07:09
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glitchdDisk /dev/loop6: 54.4 MiB, 57069568 bytes, 111464 sectors07:10
EoflaOEglitchd: fdisk -l on pastebin, not here07:10
glitchdUnits: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes07:10
glitchdSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes07:10
glitchdI/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes07:10
ducasse glitchd use a psastebin07:11
ducasse*pastebin07:11
glitchd/dev/sdb2  1085440   1288191    202752   99M Microsoft basic data07:11
glitchd/dev/sdb3  1288192   1320959     32768   16M Microsoft reserved07:11
glitchd/dev/sdb4  1320960 414515199 413194240  197G Microsoft basic data07:11
glitchd 07:11
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glitchdDisk /dev/loop8: 42.8 MiB, 44879872 bytes, 87656 sectors07:12
Bladenikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F07:15
BladeSystem:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 5.3.0-050300rc7-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Gnome 3.33.9107:15
Blade           Distro: Ubuntu 19.10 (Eoan Ermine)07:15
Bladecool07:16
EoflaOENice Blade, but any support for Eoan should go to #ubuntu+107:17
KOLANICHHi. WTF? E: Failed to fetch https://mirrors.edge.kernel.org/ubuntu/dists/disco-security/universe/dep11/by-hash/SHA256/6f356e9b4a093e30c24721cc37a85da760b342041d4dc6c8f0586dfc89c3a517  404  Not Found [IP: 147.75.101.1 443]08:03
KOLANICHanyone alive here?08:06
giacohello08:26
giacoI've just installed 18.04.3 on my laptop for the first time, the system hangs with fans spinning on logout and sleep08:27
doug16kKolas, is that an apt update? no idea what you are doing when that failed08:28
vltgiaco: You might have to set some "acpi" or similar option as kernel boot paramater.08:28
doug16kor upgrade? or what08:28
giacoit hangs also on shutdown too08:28
vltgiaco: Google your laptop model, ubuntu and acpi.08:29
giacovlt: thanks08:29
vltgiaco: Then try a few options.08:29
doug16koops not Kolas should have been KOLANAICH, who left. sorry for ping kolas08:29
vltgiaco: If you don't want to edit /etc/default/grub everytime you can add the option right at the start in the GRUB menu for testing.08:30
doug16kwe didn't meet KOLANICH's hard realtime response time of < 3 minutes08:30
giacovlt: I know, thanks :) do you think that it can also be related to gpu drivers?08:31
Kolas:D08:34
vltgiaco: I have no idea, sorry.08:34
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giacocomputer freeze on "apt-get install nvidia-driver-430". Damn, this is not cool08:45
vltgiaco: Is that an Ubuntu package?08:48
doug16kgiaco, easy way to install that is to run Software & Updates, go to the Additional Drivers tab and select it there08:49
ayewvlt: thats a non-free driver afaik08:49
doug16kyes it is an ubuntu package08:53
doug16ksee `apt show nvidia-driver-430`08:53
TJ-giaco: hanging on logout is a weird one; that does suggest some kind of issue with the display drivers but it shouldn't hang the entire PC. When that happens can you switch to a TTY with Ctrl+Alt+F2 / F3 / F4 ?08:59
TJ-giaco: if the PC is hanging with general commands I'd suspect a hardware<>driver problem; there may be clues in the kernel log from boot-time ( "journalctl -b 0" )09:01
giacoTJ-: it doesn't switch TTY when it hangs. It doesn't switch when it is not hanged too, because changing to TTY hangs09:01
TJ-giaco: Whilst it is freshly booted can you show us "pastebinit <( journalctl -b )" we may be able to find some clues09:01
giacosuspecting video driver, I'm installing the nvidia one. I went into the secure-boot wizard to add the key in uefi, but it failed that too "can't load /var/lib/shim-signed/mok/.rnd into RNG"09:02
giacoit created the private key, it asked me a password, but it didn't output any key for me to put into uefi09:03
giacodamn, never been so hard to configure linux on a new laptop09:03
TJ-giaco: Doesn't surprise me; as they become more integrated and the ACPI code more tied to Windows Linux suffers09:04
TJ-giaco: is it a model with dual GPUs that switches between them. Those cause terrible problems and it hasn't got better09:06
giacook, but it fails in trying to setup a proprietary driver09:08
giacook it seems to have worked correctly anyway. MOK key enrolled, nvidia driver loaded, TTY change now works and also logout and reboot09:14
giacoit was all about gpu driver09:15
giacook, quite satisfied. Next problem, installing torbrowser. I do know that the gpg keys have been poisoned months ago, but the installation on ubuntu 18.04 is still not fixed09:19
dbuggerDoes anybody know a good way, so I can write different alphabets in different windows? Like in one write japanese, and other one english?09:21
EoflaOEdbugger: We can't support Windows here. ##windows09:23
dbuggerEoflaOE, i didnt mean "windows" as in "the OS"09:24
dbuggerI meant, while switching between apps09:24
dbuggerin one, I want to write in English09:24
dbuggerand other in Japanese09:24
doug16kdbugger do you know the locale for the japanese? analogous to en_US?09:31
doug16kif you run it from a terminal like this: `LANG=en_US some-program-name-here` then it will run just that program in english USA locale09:32
doug16kdo equivalent thing for japanese (or just run it normally if your system is japanese by default)09:32
giacotor problem solved, so nevermind my last question09:32
vltdoug16k: Does LANG= change the keyboard layout used?09:35
doug16kvlt, not sure09:36
vltI never observed that behaviour.09:37
doug16ksometimes people show pastes in some non-english language, and get very little help, I've often suggested they force it to english that way and repost. as far as input method, there is usually some icon in the system tray to switch, and there are keybinds to go through the input methods, but I am just an english speaker and haven't had a lot of experience with input method switching09:38
vltdbugger: A (common) keyboard shortcut to switch between layouts is Alt + (left) Shift. If you can't find a way to link one layout to a window/program maybe setting such a shortcut helps a bit.09:42
juliushi10:21
juliussomehow my google search today goes to google.com instead of google.de and google.com blocks me weirdly10:22
juliushow do you switch firefox to google.de?10:22
TJ-julius: that would be something the target web server is enforcing with a redirect I'd expect10:23
juliuscouldnt find any setting to tell firefox what "google" search means10:23
juliusi can only switch between different search engines10:23
oerclear your browsers data and cookies, and restart the browser10:24
oerin ~/.cache and ~/.config and ~/.mozilla10:25
juliusthat sounds like a windows reboot10:25
juliusbut ok, lets try that10:26
juliusi can only see ~/.mozilla... and ~/.cache....       dont know where to find firefox in .config10:29
oerno, in config you would find google chrome , if you have more browsers10:31
oeroke10:31
Blade../nick only-test10:38
immuhi10:38
juliusim looking to fix firefox, dont use chroome10:44
immujulius, like how do you propose to?:10:46
TJ-julius: did you try from the command-line to see if it is Google redirecting your user agent?10:52
TJ-julius: as in "wget -S -O /dev/null http://google.de/"10:53
EoNI've just booted up Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS from USB on my Dell Latitude, and the key mappings are all wack. i hold down the ctrl key and the cursor goes all over the place/highlights dehighlights entire words.. arrow/shift keys do all types of weird things & tab across fields etc.  is this something known, or something fixable?11:00
TJ-EoN: sounds like you're unique! :)11:02
TJ-EoN: I wonder if you've accidentally enabled accessibility options like sticky-keys and other options11:03
EoNhmm... it works fine when using ubuntu through VirtualBox on Windows11:05
TJ-EoN: if holding down the Ctrl key causes the cursor to move that sounds like it is causing some kind of pseudo-mouse input. There is a hotkey sequence that can enable a special NumLock mode that could be the cause.11:07
TJ-EoN: I presume the keyboard doesn't have a separate numeric keypad so the main keys double-up as numeric keys when NumLock is enabled?11:07
immuhow long before 19.10 is out, in terms of days :)11:08
EoNand for eg just now i pressed 'ctrl' key within text editor, and the 'right click context dropdown' menu opens up. something is very wacky! lol. maybe the touchpad is glitchy or osmething11:08
EoNTJ- is that special numlock/accessibility mode accessible through the ui?11:09
EoNahhh it's the touchpad! as soon as i 'disabled' the touchpad, keys are working perfectly. how weird!11:10
TJ-EoN: oooh.. could it be the touchpad is detecting your hand ... it could be too sensitive. There should be an option to disable touchpad whilst typing11:11
EoNeven when i kept my hands way away from it, was occurring.. maybe i was breathing too heavily lol11:12
immuTJ-, i did see a option to disable the touchpad while typing11:31
TJ-EoN: vibration from pressing the keys or resting on the frame possibly... or maybe just a ghost in the machine!11:32
TJ-immu: releases are usually toward end of the month so .10 would be expected end of October11:33
immugnome tweak > keyboard and mouse11:33
immuokie11:33
EoNyeah. it looks like there are a number of google reports of oversensitive touchpads on dell machines (and others)11:33
EoNseems like its not an uncommon issue11:33
TJ-immu: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseSchedule11:33
BennyBronI am trying to install AMD Ryzen 3200g with graphics drivers on ubuntu LTS. can somebody help?11:38
immuTJ-, tnx11:40
Oolubuntu-drivers autoinstall ?11:41
Oolor perhaps with the free driver …11:41
BennyBronhow do I find out which driver is running atm?11:45
BennyBronno drivers found for installation11:46
ryuoBennyBron: there's not really a proprietary driver for AMD anymore.11:52
ryuoBennyBron: so there's nothing for it to install.11:52
ryuoBennyBron: which LTS?11:53
redecasI have a ssh connection to a server X opened from /dev/pts/0 ; how can I access that connection and send commands to the server X, but from /dev/pts/1  ?12:04
ryuoredecas: why would you want to? ptys are allocated dynamically as needed for shell logins and other things that require them. only the owner of it can really do anything with it.12:07
redecasryuo: there is a ssh connection open to the server; it is opened from another device, but from the same user. I cannot create more ssh conenctions to the server because the /etc/passwd file is misconfigured; so I want to fix it from the ssh connection12:09
ryuoso you have 2 connections open?12:10
BluesKajHowdy all12:10
oer" because the /etc/passwd file is misconfigured"  explain please ?12:11
redecasI have a ssh connection from a device12:13
ryuothen how do you have access to another pty?12:13
ryuothose are only created for sessions, local or otherwise12:14
redecasmy mistake12:14
ryuoso what keeps you from using the existing connection?12:14
redecaspc1 --- vm1 ----ssh---- server12:15
redecaspc2 ---- vm112:15
redecasI am pc212:15
redecasand have a connection to vm112:15
oeryeah, this sound  more you have a school assignment, or too lazy to walk over to the other device12:15
redecasvm is the virtual machine12:15
ryuoso... it's a pty in the vm?12:16
redecasyes12:16
redecaspc1 and pc2 use the same user from vm112:16
redecas(the root user)12:17
ryuothis would be possible if screen or tmux or byobu was in use, but i don't see how you could do it otherwise.12:17
redecasno, they are not used :|12:18
ryuooer: you're right.12:18
ryuooer: i can't see how someone would get into this situation unless they were put into it on purpose.12:18
redecasthe shell was changed from ksh to bash12:19
redecasand it does not work any more12:19
redecasto connect to the server12:19
ryuoredecas: here's the thing.. if you try to write to the pty from another one, you'll just be writing to the screen.12:19
redecasyes, I know12:20
ryuothat won't do any good... you have to be able to trick it into accepting input from another source... but clearly ssh is in control her.12:20
ryuothis isn't really a support question. to #ubuntu-offtopic?12:20
redecasit is linux related12:20
redecasmaybe you are right12:21
ryuoi'll continue it there.12:21
lotuspsychjeor ##networking ?12:21
ImAdPEr|wORkInGHey Guys, I'm using ubuntu core with an old official kernel-snap (4.4.0-135-generic). I track program network traffics by adding classid in net_cls cgroup and then mark it with iptables. However I found a bug in many devices: The OUTPUT Bytes which have the classid mark stop increasing after several hours (one stops at 77G, one stops at 29G ). However the program still work and sending packets.12:35
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iMadperIt looks seem the classic field of skb is cleaned somehow.12:37
iMadperThe issue looks like: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/containers/2014-January/033848.html12:37
iMadperDoes anyone face the same issue?12:37
TJ-iMadper: that sounds incredibly focused so unlikely, but I'd ask the question in #ubuntu-kernel and possibly #ubuntu-server - would also be worth your examining the commit history of that kernel version to see if the patches you've linked to are included12:39
iMadperTJ-: Thanks a lot. I'm check the kernel patches.. And still tons of patches to check... I just try if I'm luck enough that someone met the same issue here. :-b12:41
TJ-iMadper: you should be able to quickly zero in if they're there with "git log --pretty=oneline -- drivers/net/veth.c" (assuming you've the 4.4.0-135 tag checked out)12:42
TJ-iMadper: Am I correct that 4.4 would be from ubuntu-trusty kernel series? I can refresh my local clone of that and check too12:43
iMadperTJ-: IIRC, I stolen the kernel snap from ubuntu core 18.04... I'd check it as well.12:45
TJ-iMadper: if it is 4.4 it'll be in the ubuntu-trusty kernel repository12:48
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iMadperTJ-: 4.4.0-135-generic ... Okay it must be trusty then. Hmmm, It seems I have to upgrade kernel for 14k devices.... :-/12:50
iMadperiff I'm sure that new kernel fixes the issue...12:50
TJ-iMadper: did you find the patch in a later than -135 release ?12:51
TJ-iMadper: aha, my mind is like a sieve! trusty was 3.3 !12:51
iMadperTJ-: I'm not even sure that the patch fixes the issue...12:52
iMadperTJ-: currently I have totally no idea about how to reproduce it.12:52
TJ-iMadper: looks like ubuntu-xenial is the 4.4 tree... I'll get there eventually :)12:52
iMadperTJ-: Okay, It makes sence. As I still remember I stolen it from ubuntu-core 18.04.12:53
TJ-iMadper: the counteres you're referring to that stop incrementing are those reported by iptables?12:53
iMadperTJ-: Yes.12:53
iMadperTJ-: Something like: 546    27418 MARK       all  --  *      *       0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0            cgroup 1111120 MARK set 0x10f45012:54
TJ-iMadper: so the issue could be with iptables itself... so would be good to know where it reads those values from and check if the kernel's copy have frozen or not first12:54
iMadperthe 1111120 is the cls.classid.12:54
iMadperTJ-: Must read from sock's skb.12:55
iMadperTJ-: If I move the pid to another net_cls and move it back, the iptables works again.12:55
iffraffHi can anyone please help? I tried to install wrong version of amdgpu and now I'm stuck in login loop.  Ie I enter my PW and it loops back to login screeno12:57
TJ-iMadper: what doesn't make sense is why it'd stop - if that code were the cause you'd expect the counter never to increment12:57
iffraffWhen I drop to terminal I can log in12:57
mircx1hello how i fix it i use with ubuntu 16 error while loading shared libraries: libgnutls.so.26: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory12:58
TJ-iffraff: try "find $HOME -not -user $USER -ls" which may show you've got files owned by root which your user therefore cannot change which are needed for the GUI, e.g. $HOME/.Xauthority12:59
iMadperTJ-: Yep. When the counter stops I'm pretty sure that: 1. the userspace program is still sending packets.  2. The pid of the program is still located in the netcls.tasks.  3. the classid is still set.  4. the iptables rule is exist.12:59
mircx1??13:00
iffraffTj seems I own everything there. Xauth is in my user name13:01
mircx1someone?13:02
iffraffApt says unmet dependencies try --fix broken. But that doesnt work13:02
oermircx1, what did you do when you got that error?13:02
oernobody can answer your question with such sparse info13:03
mircx1install ssl13:03
lotuspsychje!details | mircx1 in a pastebin please13:03
ubottumircx1 in a pastebin please: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.13:03
iffraffSo I  can't uninstall the broken packages and I can't updat13:03
iffraffUpgrade the apt. Not sure if that's related to my login problem or not13:04
mircx1!pastebin13:04
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:04
lotuspsychjeiffraff: dependency issues you get mostly when adding external ppa's and they conflict with apt13:04
TJ-iffraff: right, so you've cleared the most obvious and usual issue (bad ownership) so it is likely the GPU drivers, so now find the Xorg.0.log and see if it helps, also look at $HOME/.xsession-errors13:05
iffraffK one sec13:05
oeropenssl is already installed, what ssl exactly? can you pastebin the install attempt with command and all errors?13:05
mircx1https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FhCFfc6ZT2/13:05
lotuspsychjelol13:06
lotuspsychjemircx1: the full apt output please13:06
oerno, all.. command and everything else13:06
mircx1i try install that ssl_gnutls13:06
mircx1https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FhCFfc6ZT2/ this a error13:08
oeragain without the command used...13:08
iffraffTj xsesserr all looks ok. Don't understand it all but nothing seems obviously wrong13:09
iffraffDon't know where the xorg.0.log is13:09
iffraffSorry for short hand on phone13:09
TJ-iffraff: it used to be /var/log/Xorg.0.log but Gnome moved it to under $HOME and I can never recall where since I do not use Gnome13:11
iffraffTj there is one dir owned by root in $home. It's .21 I think. Writing is super small and blue13:12
lotuspsychjexorg: /usr/lib/xorg /usr/include/xorg13:12
TJ-iffraff: ".21" isn't a core directory so ignore that, but not sure what process would create that13:12
TJ-iffraff: try "find $HOME/.local -name 'Xorg.*log'  "13:13
mircx1how i fix it?13:15
TJ-iMadper: I've checked the most recent mainline kernel and the ubuntu-xenial 4.4 series; the patches in that mail-list are not applied13:15
lotuspsychjemircx1: share your full apt & command output first please13:16
lotuspsychjemircx1: volunteers dont know what you are trying to do13:16
mircx1sudo apt-get install libgnutls-dev13:16
lotuspsychjemircx1: ok and pastebin all the text coming after your command too13:17
vbgunzhello all, does anyone know what might be happening on the server installation filesystem setup where almost every move I make to select a disk, my selection is reset back up to the top?13:17
iMadperTJ-: I see. And there is no similar fixes...13:18
mircx1i send it13:18
TJ-iMadper: I'm currently checking for that13:18
mircx1https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FhCFfc6ZT2/ this a error13:18
vbgunzthis is infuriating, the file system setup screen is absolutely unusable. I checked the whole disk for errors and it reported good.13:19
iffraffTj right so I have 0 and 1. Looked at 1. Tone of stuff but at end a lot of systemdlogind releasing I'd for some number13:19
TJ-iMadper: in 5.3-rc7 (latest mainline) "gitlog --grep CONFIG_NET_CLS_CGROUP" only reports 3 commits matching and they're all 2013 or earlier so nothing stands out13:20
iMadperTJ-: It's a p2p network programming. New connections create and destory fastly. So the new alloced skb doesn't contain the classid as well. Or, all skbs that contains the classid is not captured by netfilter.13:20
iMadperTJ-: Yes. There is no much classid related patches at all...13:21
TJ-iMadper: could it be a race condition in that case?13:21
iMadperTJ-: No idea... I'd try to check iptables related patches...13:21
lotuspsychjemircx1: lets see pastebin of: lsb_release -a && uname -a && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade13:21
iffraffTj actually in .0 file, at end there is a sent fault error at 0x0 not sure if that helps13:23
* iMadper is creating compile_commands.json for ccls now...13:23
TJ-iffraff: if you have the path to the file you can share it with us by doing "pastebinit path/to/file" and telling us the URL13:23
iMadperTJ-: Thanks for your kindly help. It's too late in my timezone. I'd check it tomorrow. I really appreciate your kindly help.  :-D13:24
* iMadper mostly because it will take too much times to compile the kernel with my poor computer...13:25
TJ-iMadper: in 5.3-rc7 drivers/net/veth.c::veth_xmit() there's a stanza that increments the counters, which includes "stats->packets++;" that only triggers with if (likely(veth_forward_skb(rcv, skb, rq, rcv_xdp) == NET_RX_SUCCESS)) {  ... so in current mainline at least, counters would stop if veth_forward_skb() failed13:28
vbgunzwow I thought the problem was only with the 18.0.4.3 installer but the same exact issue plagues the 19.04 installer. the filesystem setup screen is utterly broken and unusable how is this possible?13:28
TJ-iMadper: have to see what the 4.4 code does in that same place13:28
TJ-vbgunz: bad GPU config13:29
vbgunzTJ-:  I tried the default and safe graphics and only on the filesystem setup screen is this a problem with constantly resetting my selection13:30
TJ-vbgunz: I presume you're (trying to) use the GUI server installer not the traditional debian-installer TUI based one?13:30
TJ-vbgunz: All I've heard about theat subiquity (server) installer is bugs and problems13:31
vbgunzI can make selections on all previous screens just fine. I downloaded ubuntu-18.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso direct from ubuntu and tried both default and safe graphics13:31
TJ-iMadper: in 4.4.0-135 the same basic code is there, triggered by if (likely(dev_forward_skb(rcv, skb) == NET_RX_SUCCESS)) {13:32
vbgunzit's just unusable, impossible to get pass this screen13:32
TJ-iMadper: so without further details we'd have to presume the packets are no longer being forwarded successfully13:32
iMadperTJ-: Wow! I need to read more context to understand how it works...13:34
iMadperTJ-: I'm afraid the bug will ruin my weekend... Orz...13:39
iffraffTj got dropped last I read was pastebin doc..13:39
iffraffMy response was.13:39
iffraffTj, I'm sorry but I'm irc on phone and terminal on actual laptop. So I don't think I can do that. If you give me an idea of what to look for I can dig.iffraff 08:35:00The context of issue is that I have a laptop with onboard Intel you, and Nvidia gpu. I added an egpu and raedon and tried to install drivers but the drivers were only for 18.04 and I'13:39
iffraffm on 19.04. And now cat login and can't apt upgrade due to missing dependencies13:39
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TJ-ImAdPER|SLeePINg: Here's a list of the commits in 4.4.0-135 mentioning "classid" https://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git/log/?h=Ubuntu-4.4.0-135.161&qt=grep&q=classid13:40
ImAdPER|SLeePINgTJ-: Ad 4.4.0-135 contains the issue, why we need the check the list?13:41
lotuspsychjeTJ-: does ubuntu core do HWE?13:41
TJ-iffraff: the command I gave you is designed to be used from the terminal. As long as the PC has network access it'll work and all you have to do is tell us the URL it reports13:41
ImAdPER|SLeePINgTJ-: I'd debug it tomorrow.13:41
ImAdPER|SLeePINgToo late in my TZ...13:42
TJ-ImAdPER|SLeePINg: my thinking is it could be a regression caused by a prior commit - unless you've tested older kernel versions and proved it doesn't occur there13:42
ImAdPER|SLeePINgTJ13:42
lotuspsychjevbgunz: you could try #ubuntu-server if you like13:42
ImAdPER|SLeePINgTJ-: I see. Your are correct, It worth a bisect.13:42
vbgunzthank you lotuspsychje :)13:43
TJ-ImAdPER|SLeePINg: good luck with it. Can I recommend you open an Ubuntu bug report against the "linux" package and let us know the bug number so we can track your progress and make the kernel dev's aware of it13:43
TJ-ImAdPER|SLeePINg: I looked at the Ubuntu patch cherry-picked from upstream which is at the top of that list which sounds worth investigating "fib_semantics: Don't match route with mismatching tclassid"13:44
mircx1lotuspsychje https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sFgVn3sNnS/13:47
lotuspsychje!uptodate | mircx1 pastebin13:48
ubottumircx1 pastebin: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.13:48
molinothi13:48
lotuspsychjewelcome molinot what can we do for you?13:50
molinotlotuspsychje, I came to see if there is a good general purpose notepad app13:52
molinotapart from the gedit that comes with Ubuntu13:52
makr8100kwrite (for kde), leafpad13:52
makr8100gedit too I suppose but not gedit...13:52
molinotusing gnome here13:52
makr8100what's the purpose of it?13:52
lotuspsychjemolinot: depends what you are looking for, regular editors or notepad++ style?13:53
makr8100leafpad isn't tied to a window manager13:53
makr8100vi :D  lol13:53
molinotsomething fast with files 2MB+13:53
molinotI'm looking at Sublime Text, it is very good indeed13:54
mircx1!upgrades13:54
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade13:54
makr8100yesterday I got vim to open a 12.1gb sql dump but it wasn't fast lol13:54
makr8100sublime seems a bit overkill for general purpose, but ya I like sublime13:55
makr8100oddly enough vs code from M$ works well on linux13:56
makr8100https://code.visualstudio.com13:56
makr8100time for the weekly IT meeting here, bbl13:56
molinotsublime is simple to learn, fast and intuitive13:56
makr8100last note - I personally use kdevelop, but again it's tied to kde13:57
molinotmakr8100, ic13:57
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james1138Hello from Indiana/USA. General question about Linux and mail clients. Besides Evolution, Claws Mail and Thunderbird - are there any other email clients that have calendar and RSS feed support??15:45
darutokoubuntu 19.04 every thing but sound freezes while watching video (vlc), is there a way to find the source of a problem?15:48
grokejames1138: did u check emacs?15:55
james1138Emacs has calendar and RSS support?15:56
grokedarutoko: i would start by checking the video drivers15:56
darutokogroke, can you elaborate? How one can check drivers?15:58
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grokejames1138: https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryCalendar15:58
grokehttps://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Rss15:58
grokedarutoko: do you know what video card u got in your computer?15:59
grokenvidia, amd, intel et c15:59
darutokogroke, yes, nvidia15:59
grokedid u install the proprietary nvidia drivers darutoko?16:00
darutokogroke, I think so16:00
darutokogroke, they was installed by ubuntu during OS install16:01
BluesKajprobly nouveau then16:05
gmalsackhello everyone~ Previously running base ubuntu install with 16lts. Worked flawlessly.... Performed fresh install of 18lts been staying up to date with updates. However system randomly just completely hangs the gui. switch to console and I can login, run commands etc.... however nothing unlocks gui until I reboot. Anyone else have this issue?16:05
koosha01Hi there16:07
koosha01I got a problem related to apt. I have ubuntu 18.04. So I added the "eon main universe" reposiroty to install the new version of minetest. But after installation my apt got corrupted. Now I can not apt update.16:09
koosha01When I "apt update" I get this: /usr/lib/apt/methods/http: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls.so.30: undefined symbol: _idn2_punycode_decode, version IDN2_0.0.016:09
koosha01And also: E: Method http has died unexpectedly!16:10
koosha01E: Sub-process http returned an error code (127)16:10
koosha01How can I fix the problem?16:10
koosha01Also others programms can not get started bacause of the same first error.16:12
BluesKajremove the neon main universe deb from your sources list since it doesn't belong16:12
koosha01Anybody has any idea?16:12
M_aDyou can't just go on and add a repository from one version onto another, Eon is still in development by the way.16:12
koosha01BluesKaj: I did and I "apt update" after it but same errors remained.16:13
koosha01M_aD: right, How can I fix the problem now?16:13
BluesKajkoosha01, is this neon or Eoan ?16:14
koosha01BluesKaj: Eoan16:14
BluesKajahh16:14
ioriakoosha01, no idea; first check if the eoan pkgs have been  purged :  apt list | grep eoan16:16
BluesKajkoosha01, check /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ if you have one16:16
gambl0r3hello, the sd card is not clicking into place16:18
gambl0r3anyone know how to fix this? it's a brand new laptop16:18
oertry ##hardware gambl0r316:18
oeror call the vendor?16:18
gambl0r3i did.not responding16:18
koosha01BluesKaj: Check what? I've deleted the eoan line from it.16:18
oerinteresting.. still not an ubuntu issue16:19
gambl0r3what do you mean16:19
koosha01ioria: No result.16:19
ioriakoosha01, dpkg -l | grep gnutls16:20
oerwe do not do hardware stuff, you know that gambl0r316:20
koosha01ioria: allright, what next?16:20
ioriakoosha01, can you paste it ?16:21
ioriakoosha01, dpkg -l | grep gnutls | nc termbin.com 999916:21
gambl0r3hardware?16:22
koosha01libcurl3-gnutls:amd64                     7.58.0-2ubuntu3.7                      amd64        easy-to-use client-side URL transfer library (GnuTLS flavour)16:22
koosha01pi  libgnutls30:amd64                         3.5.18-1ubuntu1.1                      amd64        GNU TLS library - main runtime library16:22
koosha01ii  libneon27-gnutls:amd64                    0.30.2-3~ubuntu18.04.1                 amd64        HTTP and WebDAV client library (GnuTLS enabled)16:22
koosha01now I deleted the last one16:22
iorianot here16:22
ioriakoosha01, dpkg -l | grep gnutls | nc termbin.com 999916:22
dbuggerI have a small issue. Screenkey is not appearing in my system tray. Why could this be?16:23
koosha01ioria: Well that was all the output.16:23
ioriakoosha01, please; dpkg -l | grep gnutls | nc termbin.com 999916:23
koosha01https://termbin.com/yfno16:24
gambl0r3oer, how do i unmount an sd card?16:24
ioriakoosha01, as you see libgnutls30  is broken16:24
koosha01ioria: I purged the libeoan27-gnutls.16:24
ioriakoosha01, as you see libgnutls30  is broken16:24
ioriakoosha01, and no need to purge  libeoan27-gnutls16:25
koosha01ioria: So what should I do?16:25
gambl0r3oer, is that not a ubuntu question?16:26
ioriakoosha01, if still in cache (or backup), you can  apt install --reinstall libgnutls30 (or with dpkg) ; if not  you need to manually download the pkg from the webdite16:26
ioria*website16:26
oergambl0r3, come on, sure you know howto unmount a mediacard16:27
gambl0r3im talking about from the command line16:27
koosha01ioria: https://termbin.com/02it16:28
eelstreborgambl0r3, there's usually an icon in the dashboard that will show up if it's mounted - you can use the disks utility to unmount it also - or use the cli16:28
ioriakoosha01, again  dpkg -l | grep gnutls | nc termbin.com 999916:29
koosha01ioria: I gives the same errors at the end.16:29
koosha01I doesnt' reinstall it, gives same errors.16:29
oer eelstrebor he want you to type it out..16:29
gambl0r3oer, yea, whats the command for that?16:30
gambl0r3im asking a ubuntu question isnt it?16:30
brimestoneHey guys, I have a tar.gz of  an ubuntu14.04 and I want to copy it to a hard drive as a "clone" of the system.. how do I go about doing it?16:31
oergambl0r3, i feel like not helping you, good luck16:31
koosha01ioria: Is this the right package to download? https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/amd64/libgnutls30/download16:31
gambl0r3i already knew you werent gonna help16:31
gambl0r3as soon as i read 'call the vendor' i knew right away16:31
ioriakoosha01,  why disco ? disco is 19.0416:31
gambl0r3typical cop out answer16:32
eelstreborgambl0r3, umount /media/<whatever>16:32
gambl0r3eelstrebor, thanks man16:32
eelstreborsudo of course16:33
koosha01ioria: So this is the one: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libgnutls3016:33
gambl0r3i dont know why i thought it was unmount16:33
martian67exim remote root people, patch your shit16:33
ioriakoosha01,  yes; do you have something manually installed under /usr/local/lib ?16:34
koosha01ioria: How so?16:34
oermartian67, known issue, patch is out https://usn.ubuntu.com/4124-1/16:34
koosha01Don't think I have.16:34
ioriakoosha01,  is a Q.  /usr/local/lib16:34
ioriakoosha01,  ls   /usr/local/lib16:34
koosha01ioria: I instlled the file using "dpkg -i" but nothing changed.16:35
gambl0r3thanks guys, have a good day16:35
ioriakoosha01,   dpkg -l | grep gnutls | nc termbin.com 999916:35
koosha01https://termbin.com/342o16:36
ioriakoosha01,  ok;   sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 999916:36
koosha01https://termbin.com/fy4316:38
ioriakoosha01,  there's nothing16:38
koosha01ioria: I entered the exact command, it doesn't paste it there16:40
ioriakoosha01,  run   sudo apt update and paste the output on  paste.ubuntu.com16:41
koosha01https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Rhyyk5Wgcw/16:42
ioriakoosha01,  and same if you run  'sudo apt --fix-broken install' ?16:43
becoolcan i use a single deploy key for all repos in my github account so i don't have to individually add a key to each?16:49
kristhianhi guys, do you have a detailed article in opening a port using iptables? i am trying to open a port using iptables but unfortunately it returns as a closed port16:52
MindSparkhey, currently there are a few updates pending on my system. When I do apt list --upgradable I see a couple of packages with the same version. Do these belong to the same update? They look like they somehow depend on each other.16:53
ioriakoosha01,  i think the issue is with libidn2-0, abest or mismatching16:58
ioria*absent16:58
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pedrocrI've recently had my Lenovo T460s not come back from suspend randomly17:33
pedrocrthere's nothing in the logs it just suspends and then there's no way to wake it17:33
pedrocrit doesn't react to the lid switch or the power button17:34
pedrocrI'm on fully updated 19.0417:34
ryuoit's gotta be gremlins.17:35
ryuo=p17:35
ryuopedrocr: but in all seriousness, sounds like a possible ACPI issue. BIOS current?17:36
ryuoor, if this is a new thing, it could be a kernel regression or so.17:36
pedrocrryuo: BIOS may not be latest but hasn't been updated either17:38
ryuopedrocr: well, that's always something to try.17:39
pedrocrkernel or systemd regression seems most likely, but I guess doing a BIOS update may be a good idea17:39
ioriapedrocr, you can also try    intel_pstate=no_hwp     as kernel parameter17:39
ryuowell, for more than just this.17:39
pedrocrioria: what's that?17:40
ryuothough last i checked lenovo doesn't make it easy to update thinkpad BIOS.17:40
ioriapedrocr, https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/admin-guide/pm/intel_pstate.html17:40
ryuoi usually ended up doing the updates from windows17:41
pedrocrryuo: I need to reinstall to get updates from Linux but I've just done a bootable USB drive in the past17:42
ryuowell, good luck with that. i've had mixed success with the bootable CD lenovo provides.17:42
pedrocrit's worked fine the two times I did it17:43
ryuoi guess it must be how i was using it.17:43
ryuodoesn't seem to like my virtual cd drive. lol17:43
pedrocrryuo: here's how I do it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1463073617:46
yabobayare the ubuntu/flavours live images amnesic?17:48
lordcirth_yabobay, they run in RAM, yes.17:48
yabobaylordcirth_: offtopic, but do you know a distro that isn't17:49
lordcirth_yabobay, you can install any distro onto a USB stick as a normal, non-live install.17:49
lordcirth_Be warned that it may wear out the USB quickly.17:50
yabobaylordcirth_: yes, but i only have one usb stick to spear17:50
lordcirth_yabobay, I have sometimes booted the installer ISO in Virtualbox, and installed to a real USB.17:50
yabobaylordcirth_: i'll look into it i guess17:51
yabobaythnx17:51
nshireTimeoutis there a way to display last login date sorted by user?17:57
nshireTimeoutor really just show lastlog for all users17:57
oerauth.log i guess17:57
iorianshireTimeout, have you tried 'last' ?17:58
nshireTimeoutI haven't tried anything and I'm already out of ideas17:58
sarnold:)17:58
iorianshireTimeout, run 'last'17:59
oerioria, +117:59
nshireTimeoutdoes it need to be run as superuser if I want to see other users17:59
sarnoldlastlog and last read from /var/log/lastlog and /var/log/wtmp -- and on my system those are world readable18:02
Mr_CyclopsHello. Wanted to understand how are Snap packages different from regular apt/deb packages?18:10
oersnaps work on non-apt linux systems too, as long as they have snapd installed18:11
Mr_CyclopsSo it doesnt depend on the package management architecture?18:11
oerinddeed, there are fedora/opensuse and more18:12
Mr_Cyclopsoer, thanks ... and flatpak?18:12
oerflat pack works the same, all libs included, but not standard installable on ubuntu, you need to install flatpack first18:13
oer!info flatpak18:13
ubottuflatpak (source: flatpak): Application deployment framework for desktop apps. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.8-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 762 kB, installed size 3697 kB18:13
CarlFKwhats cli to upgrade from 18.04 to 19.o4?18:14
sarnoldMr_Cyclops: when you add an apt repository to your system, whoever controls the private key for that repo can execute anything as root on your computer via the pre/post inst/rm scripts -- with confined snaps, there's some sandboxing to reduce the scope of what the package can do18:14
oerand there is appimage too, but you need to install it manually18:14
Mr_Cyclopssarnold, oer thank you18:15
Mr_CyclopsI need to dig these in .. thanks again for your help, appreciate it18:16
oerhave fun!18:16
oerCarlFK, why cli ?18:16
CarlFKoer: I am sshed in18:17
oerhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades#Server_.2F_Command_line_Upgrade18:17
oer\not that hard to find18:17
CarlFKthanks18:18
oeri hope your ssh survives upgrading :-)18:18
CarlFKdo-release-upgrade commented on that too.  tmux seams to have appeased it.  if it catches fire, I'll reinstall - this is all about testing a gstreamer bug so no one will be to upset it drags out a few days18:23
sarnoldI thought do-release-upgrade ran itself in screen?18:26
CarlFKit might have said something about that - ^c whack whack its doing stuff now.  I'm not being too careful18:27
kinghatanyone on the HWE kernel tell me what version they have if you are up2date?18:35
oeruname -a18:41
oer 5.0.0-27-generic #28~18.04.1-Ubuntu18:42
oerand there is HWE-edge .. but is behind https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/linux-hwe-edge18:45
kinghatlike i have: https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/dfaf94813d008a2f/image.png and  https://irc.kinghat.info/uploads/1ad406d39cbb208c/image.png18:46
kinghatwondering which one i need to get rid of18:47
oer..why a pic?18:48
oernot clicking things right now, paste.ubuntu.com only please18:48
sarnoldkinghat: I don't know what that display is, but keep them both. one is the meta package that knows which 'real' package to install18:49
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kinghatits the ukuu utility18:49
oerukuu/mainline kernels is not HWE18:51
kinghatoer: it still tells you whats installed.18:59
mysticinstalled where19:02
kinghat🤷‍♂️19:04
mystic:D19:04
mystichttp://www.ubuntuce.com/download.htm19:08
mysticany good?19:08
kinghatmy grub is jacked anyways, i have to have another os installed on another drive to get a grub menu19:09
sarnoldmystic: if you want a seven year old distribution that hasn't received security updates, knock yourself out19:10
mysticu only saying that cos its christian19:11
deitarionAfter a power-outage-induced reboot, my 16.04 system has now decided that en_CA.utf8 means "French" in GTK+ 3.x apps. How do I diagnose the translation fallback chain?19:16
sarnoldmystic: I'm saying it because it's from 2012.19:20
mystic;)19:24
ioriadeitarion, you can check the 'input method' in Language19:25
Psil0Cybin hey guys silly question what is the offical guidfe to virify the SHA256SUM and SHA256SUM.sign of a Ubuntu ISO19:25
Psil0CybinThe website does not really list a step by step guide19:25
Psil0CybinI was wonmdering if someone could please provide this?19:25
deitarionioria: I just discovered the problem. I'm on Kubuntu and something in the KDE startup process decided to override my LANGUAGE environment variable to "en_US:en_GB:fr".19:26
ioriadeitarion, i see19:26
deitarionAlso, it's not input that's the problem. It's things like the menus.19:26
deitarionAhh. It's KDE's "Translations" control panel, which, for some reason, has a listing of available languages that doesn't line up with what's actually available.19:27
coz_Psil0Cybin, does this help?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM19:28
Psil0Cybinyes it does coz_ thanks!19:29
e|fHi. I have Windows, Ubuntu and Linux Mint all installed on this laptop. I want to get rid of Mint completely. Is there an easy way to do this?19:29
coz_Psil0Cybin, excellent19:30
deitarione|f: What are you using to provide the boot menu?19:31
e|fI think it's called Grub19:31
e|fi just want to get rid of Mint19:31
deitarionOK, if you're using GRUB rather than a menu provided by your UEFI, then you'll need to make sure that your Ubuntu is the one responsible for maintaining it first,19:32
e|fok...19:32
deitarionOnce that's done, it should be a simple matter of deleting Mint from your boot menu and using a partition editor to delete the partition containing Mint.19:33
e|fok, thanks :)19:33
geniiCan also just use a livecd/usb to repartition and run grub-update from there19:36
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koosha01ioria: Hi, sorry I wasn't available, what was your last suggestion?19:47
ioriakoosha01,  i think the issue is with libidn2-0, is missing  or mismatching (but, sy, i'am headind out)19:47
koosha01ioria: I seems I don't have such package installed19:49
ioriakoosha01, check  ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls.so.30.14.10   ; dpkg -l | grep libidn219:49
ioriakoosha01, maybe that's the problem19:49
koosha01ioria: I have the version 2 installed but also the version 3 is installed19:50
ioriaof what ?19:50
ioria!info  libidn2-019:50
ubottulibidn2-0 (source: libidn2): Internationalized domain names (IDNA2008/TR46) library. In component main, is important. Version 2.0.4-1.1build2 (bionic), package size 47 kB, installed size 146 kB19:50
koosha01ioria: of libdn19:51
koosha01*libidn19:51
ioriakoosha01, for bionic is 2.0.4-1.1build2; remove the other19:51
koosha01ioria: output for ldd: https://termbin.com/wmc219:51
ioriakoosha01, dpkg -l | grep libidn19:53
koosha01ioria: https://termbin.com/sxrm19:53
ioriakoosha01, why do you have libidn2-0:i386  ? the 32bit ver , i mean19:54
koosha01ioria: no idea19:55
ioriakoosha01, sy, have to leave . gl19:56
zimmerianHello all - so using unattended-upgrades version 1.1ubuntu1.18.04.7~16.04.3 - InstallOnShutdown doesn't seem to be working.  When I run it manually it does.  I enabled debug for unattended upgrades and in the log files I basically see20:01
zimmerianDEBUG - get_lock returned 720:02
zimmerianDEBUG - lock not taken20:02
zimmerianand then it reboots.  I do have Unattended-Upgrade::InstallOnShutdown "true"; present but it doesn't do anything20:03
zimmerianhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unattended-upgrades/+bug/1806487 # It seems very similar to this20:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1806487 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "[regression] Crashing with dbus.exceptions.DBusException when logind can't be started (yet)" [Critical,Fix released]20:04
zimmerianthat was fixed in 1.1ubuntu1.18.04.7~16.04.2 but it seems to be happening to me20:04
zimmerianany ideas and or should I submit a bug report or something?20:05
sarnoldzimmerian: probably bug report20:07
zimmeriansarnold: Will do - thanks!20:08
sarnoldzimmerian: and thank you :)20:08
ironpillowTJ-: Thanks again. LVM snapshots work perfectly!20:47
arinovwhere can i get phone to try?21:10
oerin the ubports channel, iirc21:10
oer!ubports21:10
ubottuInformation about the mobile port of the Ubuntu platform (formely Ubuntu Touch) for Phone and Tablet is available here: https://ubports.com/. Support and discussion in #ubports21:10
oernexus5 seems to do pretty well21:11
knstnSo hwo to install chrome on ubuntu 18.04LTS?21:32
knstn"apt search chrome" no returns21:33
saorsudo apt install chromium-browser21:33
saorGoogle Chrome is not in the repos21:34
knstnAh okay. I will use chromium.21:34
saorShould work fine21:35
knstnIt's just that some sites break with firefox, like linkedin etc21:36
saorLinkedin seems to work fine for me in FF 69.021:36
renpichttps://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome21:36
renpicit also has a link with the (small) differences between chromium and official chrome21:37
renpicI still prefer Firefox thou ;)21:39
infinituxHello22:00
infinituxFresh install of 19.04 and problem with glitchiness on video output for Intel HD graphics card.22:01
infinituxAny suggestions?22:02
sarnoldinfinitux: I think I've seen that kind of complaint a few times.. have you updated the kernel yet?22:05
infinituxEverything is freshly updated22:06
infinituxAt least to default repos22:07
infinituxI appreciate your help btw, sarnold.22:07
sarnoldinfinitux: heh, arch wiki's got a ton of different kinds of issues.. tearing, font corruption, screen flickering, more and more.. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics22:10
sarnoldinfinitux: scrollback here didn't have much to work with :( but there was one mention of a kernel command line setting for the i915 driver, and that lead to this wiki page..22:11
infinituxThanks22:14
jwashis there a filter which would let me set an ubuntu machine in between my network router and switch in order to filter traffic? I want to filter based upon lists from Adblock Plus, etc.22:35
jwashI'm looking for ideas which don't involve me changing DNS settings across my network22:35
sarnoldjwash: iptables could do that filtering piece of cake; figuring out what to filter might take a bit more effort, since you've got to block based on ip addresses or ranges, rather than dns names22:38
jwashi believe that the lists should have predefined translations22:40
riskymanag3mentYou might look into ipfire or PFSense at that point22:41
jwashi will22:41
riskymanag3mentI ran IPCop and then IPFire afterwards. It's a nice gui for IP Tables with a lot of options. I22:41
flogjwash:pi-hole. filtering ads on dns level on your entire network.22:43
riskymanag3mentI basically run mine as a router connected to my modem. It provides the following services, URL Filtering, DHCP, OpenVPN, IDS, Firewall / IP Tables, update caching, Timeserver, and more.22:43
flogoh sorry mised the dns part, nevermind.22:44
jwashflog: i don't want to have to change and monitor all the different devices to make them point to my piehole22:44
jwashis there a way to require users to login, like at an airport?22:44
flogcaptive portal?22:45
jwashi'd like to put a pc in my son's room but I don't want him using the internet without permission22:45
riskymanag3mentIP Fire will do a captive portal, but I don't use it.22:45
jwashneat22:45
riskymanag3mentIt also does network segmentation. It codes all networks into colors Red (internet), Green (local lan), Blue (guest lan), Orange (DMZ)22:46
jwashexactly, that's perfect for my need22:46
riskymanag3mentit can authenticate in a variety of ways.22:46
jwashwhat specs do you recommend for the pc running it?22:47
flogjwash: if you do go with pi-hole, you could just have your router point to your pi-hole as the main dns in your network. If you are using dhcp that is.22:47
jwashi already use censurfridns22:48
riskymanag3mentI'm running mine on an 10 year old Acer netbook. I replaced my hd with an SSD and it's got 1GB of ram.22:48
jwashstill it doesn't stop people who are already using 8.8.8.8 as a user defined dns22:48
flogthen block googles dns in your router :)22:49
jwashrisky: cool, I've got an old eeepc22:49
renpicor redirect port 53 to your DNS for every internal ip but not your DNS22:49
riskymanag3mentUpdate caching is the only thing that I sometimes miss. My 120GB doesn't provide a lot of room to cache updates. I had a set up at my office that had 1TB of space for update caching. Anytime I had a computer needing updates that was the place to go.22:50
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Gallomimiacan someone tell me how to install amd graphics drivers? my usual machine is nvidia but i've got this other one i'm trying to have my friend game on23:24
sarnoldGallomimia: I think it mostly means having the linux-firmware package installed so you can get the amd blobs loaded into the cards; amdgpu driver23:26
Bashing-omGallomimia: AMD drivers are in the kernel - is the card recent enough to support the proprietary overlay - amdgpu-pro >23:27
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Gallomimiano it's like 10 years old23:31
Gallomimia587023:31
Gallomimiaanyway, it worked "out of the box" for borderlands 2 but killing floor is doing random work/notwork states23:32
Gallomimiablocks of the video output are scrambled23:32
Gallomimianigh-on impossible to even reboot the system after it goofs up like that23:33
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sarnoldGallomimia: I think it mostly means having the linux-firmware package installed so you can get the amd blobs loaded into the cards; amdgpu driver23:34
sarnoldoh ten year old? maybe amdgpu doesn't work23:34
saorGallomimia: Are you using Proton for Killing Floor?23:35
Gallomimiano it runs natively23:38
saorAh the original, nvm then :D23:39
Gallomimialinux firmware is the newest version23:40
Gallomimiathings i'm reading about are for older versions?23:40
Gallomimiai'm running ubuntu 19.0423:40
saorIIRC with AMD the open source drivers are on par with the proprietary ones.23:42
Gallomimiai'm not terribly worried about OS/prop23:42
Gallomimiawe wonder why it worked yesterday but not today23:46
Gallomimiait is positively enraging to read a page from help.ubuntu.com which refers to ubuntu 12.04 if it's unsupported, take that stuff down!23:49
Bashing-omGallomimia: "worked yesterday" - what shows now for a driver ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?23:51
Gallomimiai have not modified the server...23:52
Gallomimiasystem. software. blah23:52
Gallomimiadriver=radeon23:52
Gallomimiaalright the cannon-fodder theory has worked. plugging in the TV on which we were playing BL2 before has caused the game to run just fine on the internal monitor. (its a laptop)23:57

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