 @saveurlinux lutin11 [well, that my fault, I've got a Meizu Pro 4 and not 5], Hate it when I do something like that
[06:07] <ubptgbot> feelwind was added by: feelwind
 Launcher Modular has been updated … https://open-store.io/app/launchermodular.ubuntouchfr … - Correct sort app after search … - hide favorite app if set … - Correct scroll for favorite app in settings … - Update translation … - Add libertine apps … - New installation method (it is recommended to apply the - default launcher again
[06:45] <ubptgbot> if it was done before) … - Correct duplicated favorite app … If your default launcher is Launcher Modular, you have to restore the dash and then return Launcher Modular. … We have improved the installation so that it does not quit anymore and act with the Ubuntu orange button
[08:40] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Hey guys, can you please send me a link that will take me to Messaging app on GitLab ? I can't seem to find it almost as if it's not being worked on anymore. I just need to submit an issue.
 @mark alexa [Hey guys, can you please send me a link that will take me to Messaging app on Gi …], https://github.com/ubports/messaging-app
 It does still live at github. That's why you won't find it at gitlab. 😉
[08:42] <ubptgbot> cyb3rpunk2002 was added by: cyb3rpunk2002
[08:53] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @Danfro [It does still live at github. That's why you won't find it at gitlab. 😉], I don't use GitHub. Can anyone submit an issue for me ? Deletion of multiple messages isn't working. When you select messages you want to delete it will delete just one. I don't know if this concern Nexus 5 only.
 Is there a multiselect mode at all?
 I can only multiselect whole conversations to different contacts. Within one conversation I can only select single messages.
 I can do the report, but we need to make sure if that is an error or a feature request. 😉
[09:07] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> As of now it allows you to select messages you want to do something with but when you tap on trash can it deletes only the bottom one out of the selection.
 @mark alexa [As of now it allows you to select messages you want to do something with but whe …], Hm, strange. I can not even multiselect more than one message. Is it tap and hold?
[09:44] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> I'm holding one message for 2 secs than it switches itself into selection mode and then it allows me to select as many messages as I want.
 🤔 Nothing happens here. So likely worth an issue then anyway. 😉
 i think he's referring to conversations.......
 i can confirm that behavior with conversations
[10:53] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> messages / conversations
 I dont see that issue. you cannot delete multiple messages at once.
 You can with multiple conversations by lngpressing
 and that works
 Hm, even stranger. Select a few conversations. And then scroll up a fair bit. The selected conversations exept of the last one get unselected!
 *longpressing
 And that might be causing this issue.
 If your conversations are on one screenpage it might work.
 @Danfro [Hm, even stranger. Select a few conversations. And then scroll up a fair bit. Th …], let me try that
[10:57] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> The messages app still needs some work, yeah ...
 If they are spread among several pages, you delete only the last on, because the others get deselected.
 You need to scoll up far enough that the selected conversation leaves the screen a fair bit.
 I dont see that happen
 and I have quite a few convo's in my list
 RC?
 same
 here
 :)
 what device?
 E5
 mine is a Pro5
 mmm i have seen weird stuff happen with qml listview in different resolutions
 Could you file a bug for that issue though
 Huh, if I do select two conversations from somewhere in the middle and then scroll upwards. The upper one gets deselected and the very last conversation is selected.
 hang on yeah
 now the weirdness starts
 in my case deselecting and then scrolling up and down *sometimes* causes them to reappear as selected
 my head hurts
 okay I will try to do a bug report myself as I now see some of what you guys are saying. hard to pin it down exactly though
 OK, thanks. We may add information later...
 yup
 i will drop the link in a minute
[11:25] <ubptgbot> <Furnace McOven> Hey guys, will the Nexus 5 video playback be fixed anytime soon. It’s one of the last few things forbidding me from truly adopting Ubuntu touch as my main OS
 wasnt the Nexus5 camera issue fixed in the last OTA?
 Camera yes. Not playback
[11:44] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Shooting pictures was, but shooting a video is still a no-go on Nexus 5.
 @mark alexa [Shooting pictures was, but shooting a video is still a no-go on Nexus 5.], You can record videos. But the playback is still not working. Workaround UTmedia
[11:45] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Just last week I went to a wedding and was asked to film and I had to ask my friend for his Android 'coz I can't shoot videos on UT.
[11:47] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @malditobastardo [You can record videos. But the playback is still not working. Workaround UTmedia], Not on my N5. It freezes as soon as you flip to video mode.
 @mark alexa [Not on my N5. It freezes as soon as you flip to video mode.], Are you on OTA 10?
[11:48] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @malditobastardo [Are you on OTA 10?], Ohh ... no I haven't upgraded yet. So I take it as you can film since OTA 10 but can't playback what you've recorded.
 You can record since OTA 9 but yeah. Playback issues are still present
[11:50] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> What format it film in though ? If it's mp4 or avi you can playback it on your laptop .....
[11:51] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Is anyone here using the Uber app on UT ?
[11:52] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> .... not really an app 'coz it fires up the browser and loads mobile version of the site :)
 @mark alexa [.... not really an app 'coz it fires up the browser and loads mobile version of …], Well. It's on uber to develop an app to UT
 @mark alexa [.... not really an app 'coz it fires up the browser and loads mobile version of …], [Edit] Well. It's on uber to develop an app for UT
[11:53] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @malditobastardo [Well. It's on uber to develop an app for UT], 😂
[11:54] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> UT has about 1800 users. I can see that happening.
 I would  between 5 and 10k users.
 @mark alexa [UT has about 1800 users. I can see that happening.], Well this is a collaborative effort. We are all responsible here.
[12:03] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> It can be done if Uber provides public-facing API for external devs.
 @Danfro mark @Fuseteam https://github.com/ubports/messaging-app/issues/131
[12:04] <gitbot> ubports issue 131 in messaging-app "multiselect operations in threads(conversations) are behaving strangely" [Open]
 feel free to add
 Downloads of the latest version for Filemanager,  more than 5800...
 and some people always use Canonical UT
[12:41] <ubptgbot> Arjun Kannur was added by: Arjun Kannur
 @matv1 [feel free to add], 👍 Thanks.
 Fwd from TotalSonic: the new update for Launcher Modular is excellent - Libertine apps now all appear in the list and it replaces the Dash correctly - and even pops to the top when pressing the Meizu Pro 5's forward facing physical button
 @mark alexa [It can be done if Uber provides public-facing API for external devs.], docs are here - it would be awesome to have a real native app for Uber for sure - https://developer.uber.com
[16:39] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> I second that. Especially now knowing that Uber is giving away API free to use. Any coder who have nothing to work on right now ??? 😉
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [Launcher Modular has been updated … https://open-store.io/app/launchermodular.ubun …], thank you!  This update is excellent - the one problem I have seen is that many of the Libertine apps do not have their own icons appear correctly - but that is a minor issue
 @TotalSonic [thank you!  This update is excellent - the one problem I have seen is that many …], Indeed we have a problem with the icons, we try to solve the problem
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [Indeed we have a problem with the icons, we try to solve the problem], one other issue I am seeing now - sometimes the Weather applet looses contact with the server and just has a constant spinning blue circle animation (which seems to also increase battery drain)
 @mark alexa [I second that. Especially now knowing that Uber is giving away API free to use. …], perhaps we could get some donations together and offer a bounty for this
 my calls only work via loudspeaker.. (nexus 5) i wonder if that could be a hardware issue..?
 @TotalSonic [perhaps we could get some donations together and offer a bounty for this], If you can thank you all noted your problems on: … https://framagit.org/ubuntouch-fr-dev/launcher-modular/issues … for donations a page is under construction. … Thank you for your interest.
 @jimmy_UbunTouch [If you can thank you all noted your problems on: … https://framagit.org/ubuntouch- …], 👍
[18:31] <ubptgbot> <J F> I am not recieving group messages sent from friends using android and iphone. Are there any modifications I can make to get this to work? I am using oneplus one
 @J F [I am not recieving group messages sent from friends using android and iphone. Ar …], No sorry, SMS group messages and MMS have a lot of issues still ^^
[18:40] <ubptgbot> <J F> @Flohack [No sorry, SMS group messages and MMS have a lot of issues still ^^], Ok. Thanks for the reply
[18:41] <ubptgbot> <J F> Also wanted to know how to get anbox on the phone. I do not see it in the open store
 @J F [Also wanted to know how to get anbox on the phone. I do not see it in the open s …], Its a manual process at the moment as this is alpha grade software. There is a high chance that it might fail or drain your battery etc ^^
 You find the info in the forum
[18:44] <ubptgbot> <J F> @Flohack [Its a manual process at the moment as this is alpha grade software. There is a h …], ok. I will wait until further development
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/SLq8MOkh.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/6zxK52ck.webp
 Sorry water and screens don't work well together
[19:17] <ubptgbot> Martin Menzel was added by: Martin Menzel
[19:50] <hallyn> not infrequently, if i switch from app A to B and back to A, then I cannot pull the keyboard up on app A again.  (at least terminal and messaging have done this).  Sometimes futzing around like switching tabs will help, but sometimes I just have to close the app and restart it.  Is this known?
[19:51] <hallyn> i'm probably getting to the point wher ei should really try building a rootfs so i can start plucking at app source...
 No need to build a whole rootfs for that. Check out https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/contribute/preinstalled-apps.html
 And https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/systemdev/index.html
 Btw, what's included in the -minimal rootfs?
 Is it only bare xenial + hybris stuff without UI?
 I would suspect not
 Check out its description please
[19:56] <ubptgbot> <Jose Luis> (Photo, 719x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/EORDMPu0.png
 That is a very nice phone Jose Luis, but I don't think it can run Ubuntu Touch
[20:00] <hallyn> thanks i'll read that
[20:03] <hallyn> i also have tried for some time to get the phone to hotspot.  starting to think the radio on the nexus 4 just isn't doing wpa right?  just "nmcli device wifi hotspot con-name cn ssid cn password somepassword should work, right?
[20:06] <ubptgbot> Ashad Muhsin was added by: Ashad Muhsin
[20:09] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> Hello I’m looking for xenial edge hybris i386 rootfs image. I’m trying to port to Zenfone 2 x86 I have system and Halium boot built using the tutorial and watching the YouTube guide. The guide says contact the developers if you have x86 phone
 We do not currently have an i386 rootfs for Ubuntu Touch and we do not build any i386 packages. Sorry to say, but that is unlikely to change.
 @hallyn [i also have tried for some time to get the phone to hotspot.  starting to think …], hotspot doesn't work on nexus4, it's hidden in the UI
 It appears that CPU does have a 64-bit instruction set, but I don't think our packages are set up to correctly work with hybris on x86-64 either
 @UniversalSuperBox [It appears that CPU does have a 64-bit instruction set, but I don't think our pa …], they are not. they are built for mesa only. there's probably a fair bit of work to get things working correctly on x86 hybris
 probably also why the old emulator pretty much never really worked
[20:13] <hallyn> @dohbee - I assume you're saying it's hidden because i'ts konwn to know work?
[20:13] <hallyn> (it being hotspot)
 @hallyn [@dohbee - I assume you're saying it's hidden because i'ts konwn to know work?], right. mako is hardcoded to disable the UI because it wasn't working; i don't recall who exactly worked on that at canonical, to answer more specifically what is wrong. i think there was an open bug in launchpad, which the code might have a comment ref
[20:14] <ubptgbot> erring to, though
[20:14] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> Okay can you use the old Ubuntu touch i386 image with halium-boot
[20:14] <hallyn> that's really too bad :(  I love the size of the phone.  pinephone, nexus 5, and purism are all too big :(
[20:14] <hallyn> oh, ok, so it's not necessariliythe hardware
[20:14] <hallyn> i'll search lp, thanks
 @Ashad Muhsin [Okay can you use the old Ubuntu touch i386 image with halium-boot], there is no i386 image; old nor new
[20:16] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> I found a vivid-preinstalled-touch-i386.tar.gz 536.5 MiB online. So was wondering
[20:18] <hallyn> (found it, #1487157)
 15.04 (vivid) was end of life a long time ago, so it won't be very useful if you do get it running, and it will have lots of security holes that won't be fixed. and you will still have the issue with hybris
[20:21] <hallyn> well maybe i do just get a nexus 5 - it's not *that* much bigger
[20:22] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> Are the rootfs’s incompatible. I mean I checked the armhf roofs xenial one with this and the files are different the flashing stage complains about no usb-tethering in /bin which is not there on the 15.04
 @hallyn [well maybe i do just get a nexus 5 - it's not *that* much bigger], nexus 5 is much nicer hardware than nexus 4, too. but they are also known for failing physical power buttons (fair warning).
 @Ashad Muhsin [Are the rootfs’s incompatible. I mean I checked the armhf roofs xenial one with …], yes. if you wanted to use the very old 15.04 preinstalled tarball from canonical, you would be on your own. that version of ubuntu is no longer supported, and we can't help you port it.
[20:23] <hallyn> i just got the 4 to try ubtouch on, wasn't intending to keep it...  but i love this little thing :)
[20:24] <hallyn> so the 5 sholud have working hotspot;  and better android support;  newer kernel...  hm how new a kernel
 @hallyn [so the 5 sholud have working hotspot;  and better android support;  newer kernel …], i think they both have kernel 3.4
[20:24] <hallyn> oh :(
[20:24] <hallyn> i thought i read that nexus 5 had 4.x
[20:25] <hallyn> (enabling full lxc support)
 nope
[20:25] <hallyn> thanks
 @mark alexa [.... not really an app 'coz it fires up the browser and loads mobile version of …], there's a way to fix that! hmm where should make tutorial hmmm
[20:26] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> Is this on a like roadmap x86 (i386 or x86_64) the userland
 @matv1 [@Danfro mark @Fuseteam https://github.com/ubports/messaging-app/issues/131], cool
[20:27] <gitbot> ubports issue 131 in messaging-app "multiselect operations in threads(conversations) are behaving strangely" [Bug, Open]
 @Ashad Muhsin [Is this on a like roadmap x86 (i386 or x86_64) the userland], i don't think so. but there are at least amd64 builds of packages in ubports repos
[20:28] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> Would have been cool to try wine on it see what programs could work
 can zenfone run on mainline kernel?
 i guess the GPU is problematic though
[20:32] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> Sorry do you mean Halium kernel or official Linux? I haven’t tried but I did get cm/lineageos built
 official
 technicallly there's no halium kernel
 @Fuseteam [technicallly there's no halium kernel], it's an aosp kernel
[20:33] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> I could try but wouldn’t it require patches or I’ll just try with ASUS or  lineageos 14.1 kernel config
[20:34] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> Or stock 3.10.xxx config
 @dohbee [it's an aosp kernel], indeed
[20:40] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> I will try to boot using mainline kernel to boot android or the 15.04 preinstalled i386 touch image? That will work?
 why are you stuck on this idea of i386?
 try to see if there is a working postmarketOS build for your device, or one with same cpu/gpu
 i saw 5 kernel booting on lge nexus 5
 it seems pretty good and working project
[20:50] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> This device only has android ports that is all. i like this device because the architecture is same as desktop pc. I wonder using wine and play old pc games for fun just to see it work
 There was a kernel for some gen of zenfone that allowed for kvms running on top of android so you could run any os you wish, you might want to check it out
[20:59] <ubptgbot> DanielS79 was added by: DanielS79
[21:08] <ubptgbot> <Ashad Muhsin> Thanks I’ll look into it
 @Fuseteam [there's a way to fix that! hmm where should make tutorial hmmm], well - the current Uber webapp is something I just threw together using Webapp Creator, which is the extent of my abilities as far as this stuff goes.  It used to work better, but then Uber changed its website, and my attempt at fixing didn't work.  I think the
[21:26] <ubptgbot> re are a few bugs as well as some needed feature enhancements for Webapp Creator if done would make it a better tool.  But for those of us that use ride sharing services like Uber and Lyft - UT native apps would be excellent to have, as while you can hail a ride using their websites, only their apps give you access to all the feautres their service
[21:26] <ubptgbot> s provide.
 @TotalSonic [well - the current Uber webapp is something I just threw together using Webapp C …], note that just because there is some API available, doesn't mean it is meant or designed for the same purposes as official apps for the service. more often than not, the APIs are for integrating other sites, rather than for building client app
[21:37] <ubptgbot> s
 @dohbee [note that just because there is some API available, doesn't mean it is meant or …], true that.   Lyft's API page seems to make me think a UT native app could be coded for it - but as I am not a developer I don't know - https://www.lyft.com/developers/products/ride-request
 @TotalSonic [well - the current Uber webapp is something I just threw together using Webapp C …], well i was referring to a way to fix the "webapps opening morph" bug
 @TotalSonic [well - the current Uber webapp is something I just threw together using Webapp C …], [Edit] well yes … i was more referring to a way to fix the "webapps opening morph" bug
 it involves editing the desktop file directly
 and letting gitlab ci do its magic
 @Fuseteam [well yes … i was more referring to a way to fix the "webapps opening morph" bug], yup - which is something that Webapp Creator has a hard time preventing for some sites.  Of the 16 webapps I have posted up in the Open Store only 3 of them have this bug though.  A tutorial on how to edit the desktop file directly for total no
[21:45] <ubptgbot> obs would be appreciated!
 yes i'm not sure where to post it
 i can try and tell you if you wish?
 @Fuseteam [yes i'm not sure where to post it], post in in the "Support" board of the UT Forum https://forums.ubports.com/category/37/support
 hmm i'm not really on the forums
 @Fuseteam [hmm i'm not really on the forums], ok - you can send it to me and I will repost it there
 hmm how comfy are you with the terminal?
 @Fuseteam [hmm how comfy are you with the terminal?], I can use it
 type this 'ls /opt/click.ubuntu.com'
 your webapp should be listed among others
 you can than ls it like this:
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/F4JN90Y9.png
 this desktop file should be edited
 with the appropiate urls
 .........i lost you didn't i @totalSonic
 [Edit] .........i lost you didn't i @TotalSonic
 Ok - thanks - will save these instructions for later and I will see how far I get in editing a desktop file next time I try to fix a webapp
 Editing the desktop file should fix it on your device
 if you have questions just pm me
 cool, thanks!
 @libremax [Downloads of the latest version for Filemanager,  more than 5800...], sounds like 5k to me :p
 @Jose Luis [<reply to media>], when is the port ready @UniversalSuperBox?
[23:38] <ubptgbot> <Sebastien Vienneau> Is there a package for Linux in general more for Debian Stable that will allow you to allow users to reset their password on first login similar to what schools and business have for new employees...?
 @Sebastien Vienneau [Is there a package for Linux in general more for Debian Stable that will allow y …], Again, this is not a general linux help channel. Please ask that somewhere more appropriate, like maybe `#debian` on freenode irc