[02:27] <roaksoax>  /win 1
[08:37] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, we are not supporting officially all the init systems, but if an user wants to use a different one is able to do it, right?
[08:37] <LocutusOfBorg> I admit I did a lot of work trying to get runit working on Debian...
[08:39] <cjwatson> I'm not sure Ubuntu supports any other init systems at all; but I think we should minimise effort on removing them
[08:40] <cjwatson> Just on the usual minimise-delta policy
[08:40] <jamespage> doko: there was an issue with the maintainer scripts in python3-gabbi which will have caused a FTBFS for all reverse-build-depends
[08:42] <jamespage> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dkDpckrrXn/
[08:42] <jamespage> I've uploaded a fix but ^^ will all FTBFS at the moment
[08:43] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, so, its like "hey we don't drop them because we should patch half the archive, but if you want to pursue a different init system you are on your own"
[08:44] <cjwatson> Correct
[08:44] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: I still don't understand why you thought it worth syncing openssh
[08:44] <doko> jamespage: fix for which package?
[08:45] <doko> ahh, -gabbi
[08:46] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, for some reasons, I would like to have runit working on ubuntu too
[08:46] <LocutusOfBorg> I will fix it up
[08:46] <LocutusOfBorg> not sure if with a dh_runit patch or something else...
[08:46] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe conditional support on rules file in openssh?
[08:47] <LocutusOfBorg> I have to do some haskell finishing and polishing work
[08:47] <LocutusOfBorg> and then I'll focus on it
[08:51] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: MIRing runit-helper makes a lot more sense to me than adding conditional nonsense
[08:53] <cjwatson> While we don't strictly need it for Ubuntu's use cases, it's also like 4416 bytes
[08:53] <jamespage> doko: and likely the cause of FTBFS in
[08:53] <jamespage> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZPpVv2TWRZ/
[08:53] <jamespage> and
[08:53] <jamespage> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d2NYHFpVXD/
[08:53] <jamespage> *-> {python3-}tempest -> python3-gabbi
[08:54] <jamespage> anyway fix uploaded
[08:54] <doko> jamespage: I'll give back these main packages once -gabbi reaches the release pocket
[09:07] <jamespage> +1 thanks
[09:14] <LocutusOfBorg> opened bug LP: #1843236
[09:19] <cjwatson> Thanks
[10:56] <doko> rbasak, cpaelzer__, coreycb: not sure who cares about php, but php7.2 is still in main, and php7.3 is not migrating
[10:57] <cpaelzer__> doko: bryyce is after that since a few days actually
[10:58] <cpaelzer__> it should - as you'd expect - be just 7.3 in main and no 7.2 anymore
[11:01] <rbasak> Right - Bryce is working on it.
[12:50] <ahasenack> cpaelzer__: would it be ok upload our postfix, adding the ftbfs fix as delta, and later sync with debian again?
[12:50] <ahasenack> the fix was merged in salsa, but I don't see a new upload yet
[12:50] <cpaelzer__> sure
[12:51] <cpaelzer> ahasenack: if such happens to me I just add a self-reminder to not forget syncing it in time
[12:51] <cpaelzer> but othere than that I see nothing that would be bad fixing it as-is now
[12:52] <ahasenack> I think the branch is at 3.4.6 already even
[12:52] <ahasenack> the salsa master branch, I mean
[12:52] <ahasenack> so a future sync would be not just that ftbfs fix
[13:28] <doko> sforshee: is there a reason that you still use bz2 compression in the linux-5.x-source package instead of xz?
[13:51] <doko> sforshee, apw: linux-oem-osp1 needs promotion
[13:52] <doko> at least it show up in component mismatches
[13:54] <apw> doko, hmmm, ta
[13:56] <doko> sforshee, apw (and tseliot): nvidia-graphics-drivers-435 needs a bug subscriber (and then promotion)
[13:56] <doko> or is desktop subscribed to these?
[13:56]  * apw tries to remember what the kernel team for bugs is called
[14:00] <doko> apw: at least nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 has desktop-packages as subscriber ...
[14:00] <doko> seb128: ^^^
[14:01] <doko> apw: and 390 has kernel-packages
[14:01] <apw> doko, i'd say kernel-packages is fine
[14:01]  * doko takes his foundations hat and runs away
[14:02] <seb128> doko, should be kernel team, it's maintained by tseliot
[14:05] <apw> doko, i believe i have added that to the kernel-packages subscription
[14:07] <doko> ta, promoted to restricted
[15:35] <doko> jamespage: updated https://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20190906-eoan.html
[15:35] <jamespage> doko: ta
[16:00] <bryyce> vorlon, from lp #1842969 sounds like a versioned removal request is in order?  Shall I file it?
[16:24] <cjwatson> note that if you're doing this then you need to do an Ubuntu-local reintroduction of python-tblib (the py2 binary package) as a build-dependency
[16:24] <cjwatson> possibly some other stuff on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html
[16:24] <bryyce> cjwatson, ah thanks
[16:25] <cjwatson> also I'm confused by why https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842969 has the alleged purpose of being a blocker bug, but doesn't have the block-proposed tag?
[16:52] <bryyce> cjwatson, I can definitely add that tag, although think this may be a q for vorlon
[17:41] <rbasak> tsimonq2: o/ what has the attendence been like at the Ubuntu Flavors meetings please?
[17:42] <rbasak> I'm wondering if all flavours know of https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-flavors/2019-July/000000.html - are they all on the list?
[17:44] <cyphermox> Eickmeyer: ack, I'll try to get to that later tonight
[18:31] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox: Thanks!
[18:33] <Eickmeyer> rbasak: The August meeting didn't happen because tsimonq2 failed to set the date, afaik.
[19:02] <rbasak> !dmb-ping
[20:07] <coreycb> doko: thanks for the heads up on those build failures. that exposed a few remaining packages we missed with py2 drops. most of them are fixed up now and we'll fix up the remaining few as we cut new snapshots this week. ceilometerclient is slated for removal hopefully soon, bug 1836142. jamespage fyi