[00:04] hostnamectl set-hostname isnt permanent? [00:07] analogical: changing permission on a system file to edit it is the wrong way to do whatever it is you are doing [00:08] kinghat: what version of ubuntu? [00:08] 18.04.03 [00:08] kinghat: server or desktop? [00:08] server [00:08] kinghat: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-change-hostname-on-ubuntu-18-04/ [00:09] ya im reading that right now [00:10] kinghat: the simple way is to just remove cloud-init [00:10] what does that do? [00:10] kinghat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit [00:10] first result on google for "ubuntu cloud-init" [00:12] i meant removing it [00:13] kinghat: prevents cloud-init from controlling your hostname [00:17] Hi all, I'm trying to mount an NTFS partition. 'fdisk -l' lists it as /dev/sda1, however ls /dev/ only shows 'sda', it doesn't show the partition, and so equally ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs fails saying /dev/sda1 doesn't exist. Where am I going wrong? [00:20] gimmel: plug the drive into a Windows machine and run chkdsk /f /r , then reboot TWICE [00:22] leftyfb: thanks - I was wondering if it was the hiberfil. I might try the ntfsfix route first. A Windows machine is hard to find around here. [00:22] gimmel: no [00:22] don't bother with mtfsfix [00:23] gimmel: your only solution is to run those checks from within Windows TWICE. [00:24] leftyfb: dang. Oh well, I was mounting it out of curiousity. I'll just wipe it ready for use as native *nix storage. Thanks for your help. [00:25] leftyfb: do i still need to set the hostname in /etc/hosts after i disabled cloud-init? [00:26] not really sure whats going on in this file. looks different than the article: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a727992e/ === LouWestin is now known as Guest33383 === LouWestin_ is now known as LouWestin === zbenjamin is now known as Guest53688 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:05] should I use apt or apt-get? [02:14] amosbird: Apt :) https://mvogt.wordpress.com/2014/04/04/apt-1-0/ ; https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/ . [02:29] ubuntu disco is 18 04? [02:29] disco is 19.04. 18.04 is bionic [03:05] Is there any risk to shrink the partition of a windows 10 drive on a work provided laptop? i want to install ubuntu on a separate partition and use it as a media server. [03:05] Windows is terrible garbage. [03:07] hmm [03:08] or should i just use ubuntu on a vm and do it that way? [03:08] risk of what? bricking the laptop? your employer finding out you have a separate linux installation? [03:08] Yes there are risks. Multiple pages on Google state that it is recommended that you back-up your data due to potential loss. Plus, depending on how strict your jobs IT policies are, you may get in trouble at work. [03:08] HyperTables: both i guess [03:09] it is a second laptop - which im not using anymore. but i just want to play it safe. i guess i could put it on a vm and do it that way. the problem is windows does its rubbish software updates, and they have their garbage monitoring software on windows etc [03:09] Of course they do. It's their laptop, hehe. [03:09] in ubuntu when you enable full disk encryption, the screen that prompts you to enter your password to get passed the FDE is plymouth? [03:10] i want to get change the color of the default purple, to black or image [03:10] that work monitoring software can't see anything that happens on an encrypted ubuntu vm - no traffic or anything, right? if i vpn from it and torrent and do all kinds of stuff, they wont know anything? [03:11] probably on oracle vm virtualbox [03:15] Can you help me get my hp envy 15" laptop working? :( I disabled Secure Boot, but trying to boot from the USB, after selecting "Try Ubuntu without installing", I get only a black screen. [03:17] !nomodeset | sappheiros [03:17] sappheiros: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [03:17] I was just checking https://askubuntu.com/questions/832163/black-screen-when-loading-ubuntu-live-usb -- thanks for this link instead. [03:18] i wonder how much i could get a really cheap computer - laptop or small desktop to act as a media server? as cheap as possible. although would need SSD. are there any recommendations? [03:19] sappheiros: :) Nvidia graphics ? Then, might have better results when the proprietary graphic's driver is installed. [03:20] It's Radeon Vega Graphics, AMD. [03:20] The screenshots in the explanation you gave me are missing: Instead I see blue question mark boxes, Bashing-om [03:20] at https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132&s=a134a44d22e3dfd4a277ba7f8870896f&p=10069997#post10069997 [03:21] sappheiros: Odd for AMD to fail. [03:21] So I don't see instructions to follow to enable the nomodeset option. [03:22] This hp envy is touchscreen, if that helps clarify my situation. [03:23] Is someone able to update the !nomodeset command to a link that has all its images and content up-to-date? [03:24] https://askubuntu.com/a/832173 seems to be it ... I will try again. [03:24] sappheiros: ^^ the thread you posted opens fime for me - with the appropriate "nomdeset" instructions, [03:26] Is it simply replacing 'quiet splash' with 'nomodeset' after pressing 'e' at that GRUB boot menu? [03:26] Then ctrl+x to continue booting? [03:26] sappheiros: Not for the installer. [03:26] :( [03:27] sappheiros: At the purple splash screen (stick figure keyboard emblems at bottom of screen) -> hit any key -> [03:27] Language screen -> escape key to accept the default -> [03:27] Well then, would you please replied the images or screenshots of them for me from one of those file-sharing sites? [03:27] Booting options screen -> F6 key (other options) -> arrow down to the preset option(s) space or enter to accept and then the escape key to exit; [03:29] Is 'purple splash screen' the screen that has the menu where you can select 'try ubuntu without installing'? [03:29] at that screen I pressed 'e', which would be 'any key', and it took me to a setparams page, not a language screen [03:30] anyone here know how to use plymouth theme? [03:30] sappheiros: No, you want to get to grub's boot options - not the boot menu. [03:30] please help me I have NO sound on my laptop except for when I click "Test Speakers" [03:31] Well, I just did as https://askubuntu.com/a/832173 and it's still a black screen. Could the touchscreen capability be the problem? How do I get to this 'purple splash screen'? What does it look like? [03:32] sappheiros: There is a difference between the installer options and the installed operating system options. [03:34] I am at (the UEFI's?) Startup Menu (hp's Startup Menu?): I have System Information, System Diagnostics, Boot Device Options, BIOS Setup, and System Recovery, or ENTER to continue startup. I select F9 boot device options to proceed to select the USB to boot from, right? [03:35] sappheiros: Right - you want to boot the USB as the installer. [03:36] Okay, then ... [03:36] now I have a blue boot manager showing OS Boot Manager(UEFI), USB Hard Drive(UEFI), and Boot From EFI File. I pick the middle USB Hard Drive to boot from my USB stick, of course, right? [03:37] *the middle USB Hard Drive(UEFI) option, I mean [03:37] arrow key down to it, then ENTER to select ... I'm presuming this is of course obvious to select, to begin the booting from USB process ... [03:37] sappheiros: That looks sane to me too. [03:38] AUGH it only gave me like five seconds at the GRUB menu before automatically selecting the 'try without installing' option ... gotta hard off and do again. i was reading the text at the bottom of the screen that seemed perhaps to corroborate your instruction ... [03:38] i'd like that to _not_ automatically proceed, to require the user to choose ... ... [03:39] !@#$ hp is "preparing bitlocker recovery" -- i didn't tap 'escape' soon enough this time apparently [03:40] okay, tapping the down arrow made some text go away but I've still got "Press enter to boot the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a command-line. ESC to return previous menu. [03:41] Are you saying I should ESC to the previous menu rather than 'e' to edit the commands? [03:41] sappheiros, the text that went away probably was the countdown info. [03:41] (I'm at the screen: GNU GRUB version 2.02) [03:41] Sven_vB yeah i hope so; would make sense [03:41] sappheiros: I have not had much experience with UEFI , But as soon as the firmware (uefi) screen clears spam the escape ky . the next screen you want to see is the language selection screen. [03:42] okay, i hit escape and it took me to "grub>", the text at the top reading "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions." [03:43] so apparently ESC at the GNU GRUB version 2.02 window enters a grub> command prompt, and hence is not the 'purple splash page' ... [03:43] Possible commands are: ...... a lot. ._. [03:43] . [ acpi ... zfsinfo zfskey [03:44] i guess i'll enter 'reboot' and try agan [03:45] Sven_vB you were correct, it said something like "The currently selected option will begin automatically in: 4s" before I tapped the down arrow this time. [03:45] sappheiros: Legs are cramping up - I must get up and walk them off:( [03:45] :( Get well soon! Jog instead of walk so you can return sooner and helpu meeeee <3 [03:46] * sappheiros should also exercise more. [03:48] Here's the text I've got: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PqkmgtQ2g4/ [03:48] https://askubuntu.com/a/832173 says I need to replace the text 'quiet splash' with 'nomodeset', but when I tried that I got a black screen still ... ... unless I accidentally typed 'nosetmode' ... [03:48] I guess I'll try again? [03:50] :( I proceeded to boot with ctrl+x instead of F10 this time, and still a black screen. [03:50] So Secure Boot disabled and 'nomodeset' replacing 'quiet splash' i still can't get it to work. [03:52] I dont know if someone is playing a trick on me or what [03:52] For the past week I've had no audio except for the speaker test [03:52] Now the speaker test doesn't work and the only audio I have is the little pops when I change the volume [03:53] Are these instructions correct for UEFI systems? https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#3 [03:53] Target system "BIOS (or UEFI-CSM)" [03:53] sappheiros: Past couple of days I have been working outdoors in extreme heat - cooling down now, As to your issue: indications are that you are booting an installed operating system, not the installer . [03:53] ... I followed that tutorial I just linked to create the USB ... [03:54] I think I see your point. So how do I ... hmm ... [03:54] anyone know how to do iperf3 but for a long time? [03:55] or an amount transferred? [03:55] I'm in hp's BIOS Setup Utility now to see if I can make USB the first to check for booting ... [03:55] ah I think I found it [03:56] UEFI Boot Order is currently OS Boot Manager, then USB Flash Drive ... perhaps if I reverse this order it will boot *from* the USB instead of loading the OS as you say? [03:57] sappheiros: :) .. yup .. you want the liveUSB as the 1st option. [03:57] well, that took me straight to this GNU GRUB version 2.02 now ... [03:57] I mean, after I saved & restarted exiting the BIOS menu [03:58] once again deleting 'quiet splash' to type 'nomodeset' ... [03:58] then F10 to boot ... [03:58] still a black screen :( [03:59] * sappheiros checks https://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/46201/discussion-between-peter-daily-and-l-d-james [04:00] seems a different issue, as legacy mode is disabled for this 'hp envy' laptop; it was using UEFi and I used the default rufus instructions ... [04:00] (to generate the bootable USB) [04:01] (from amd64 iso) ... Bashing-om could you show me those images from the instructions, or is there something else I can do? ... [04:01] <|Anthony|> hello all! i'm having issued with getting my dell laptop to resume from suspend. i've tried to follow several how to guides with no success. can someone point me in the right direction [04:02] |Anthony| try searching askubuntu for dell d620 resume from suspend [04:03] not sure if i had that issue though but i might have asked about it [04:04] sappheiros: I am not fathoming why you still seem to be booting the installed system - reboot, with the liveUSB as 1st boot priority, and as soon as the bios splach screen appears hit a key - what now do you see ? [04:05] I don't see a bios splash screen: As soon as I power on, after a second or two of black the USB stick flashes its LED and I'm taken to the GNU GRUB menu. [04:06] It looks like it's booted from the USB stick to me: That GNU GRUB menu is what I saw from the lubuntu USB when I was trying it with another laptop (the dell d620 actually). [04:08] I'm thinking the touch capability is causing that black screen, preventing the graphics from loading ... Is that possible? ... [04:08] like, a different driver expected for touch screens vs non-touch screens? [04:09] my ubuntu dell desktop got freezed as soon as i login just only mouse cursor is showing and if i CTRL+ALT+F1 entering in to shell prompot and working [04:09] kindly help me how can i fix it [04:09] <|Anthony|> sappheiros what you referred to was an unanswered question [04:09] <|Anthony|> sooo... solidarity? [04:11] |Anthony| lol i guess ... sorry [04:16] |Anthony|, you haven't told us what you are running; boot the same 'live' image on multiple desktops/laptops, I've found the way they 'wake' from suspend differs between makes/models, eg. some wake with any key, some wake only with power button - but you've provided little detail [04:17] sappheiros, did you use the 'check disc for defects' option on your 'live' system to ensure you write-to-install-media (plus download) were flawless? I'd suggest using it always [04:18] guiverc just selected it at your suggestion and it's another black screen. [04:19] I'm checking https://askubuntu.com/questions/1162746/why-wont-my-hp-envy-x360-laptop-with-ryzen-7-3700u-boot-ubuntu-live-cd now. [04:19] do the test on another box; if it's black there - I'd suspect a bad-write (or bad download unless you verified that before write-to-media) === ImAdPER|SLeePINg is now known as iMadper [04:19] sappheiros, what OS are you talking about? (esp. release) [04:20] i'm trying to install the 18.04.3 LTS amd64 just downloaded from the ubuntu.com page yesterday [04:20] looks like i found the page describing my problem. [04:20] sappheiros: I do routinely boot a lot of different liveDVDs - all of then have the ability to boot up to that boot options screen - If you do not see a language selection screen then we are not on the right path. [04:20] Bashing-om: https://askubuntu.com/a/1163672/883486 [04:21] i think i have to quit and go to bed now. -_- it really seems like God doesn't want me to be working with computers [04:21] they usually go wrong for me, even when i follow instructions ... [04:21] does everyone _constantly_ encounter bugs? [04:22] sappheiros: are you on a ryzen system? whats going on? [04:22] yes. [04:22] AMD Ryzen 7 sticker on my hp envy laptop. [04:22] sappheiros: We will still be here when you are ready to resume. Computers are so literal - it is their way or no way :P [04:22] i want to try this page's instructions [04:23] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1162746/why-wont-my-hp-envy-x360-laptop-with-ryzen-7-3700u-boot-ubuntu-live-cd [04:23] sappheiros: 5700 graphic's card ? there is a work-a-round ! [04:25] holy !@#$ this looks like i have to be an IT guy ... ... well, it's ... AMD Integrated SoC chipset, Rota code name, AMD Radeon(TM) RX Vega 10 Graphics [04:25] sappheiros, just an idea, maybe try 18.04.2; - i recall a recent askubu question which was resolved with an older install followed by release-upgrade to latest once installed... [04:26] is this "Vega 10" a "5700" graphics card? [04:29] guiverc is that available from the downloads page? [04:29] of ubuntu.com? [04:29] i am using version Versions 16.04 [04:30] well, i got my crappy glitchy win10 working again [04:31] i guess i can go to bed satisfied that i only lost sleep and inconvenienced people getting accidentally locked in a building ... [04:31] not sure of my next step, actually [04:31] sappheiros, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.2/ (i use my local mirror so some mirrors still have it) [04:33] Linux version 4.15.0-60-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-024) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.10)) #67~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 26 08:57:33 UTC 2019 (Ubuntu 4.15.0-60.67~16.04.1-generic 4.15.18) [04:37] <|Anthony|> guiverc thanks for the reply. i didn't want to just info-dump. i'm willing to provide any relevant info needed to nail down this issue [04:37] <|Anthony|> i'm about to try to suspend via pm-suspend [04:38] sappheiros: Hummm : https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=297917 reading now and so far indictes you need the 5.2 version kernel for vega10 graphics. [04:39] what is 'the 5.2 version kernel'? [04:39] (if Bashing-om is correct; try 19.10) [04:40] ah [04:40] instead of 18.04.2, 19.10? [04:41] would 19.04 work? [04:41] or i should wait until next month??? [04:41] |Anthony|, is best if you provide all info (ideallly a single long line), and people will respond as they are able. patience is required as people here do other things (are volunteers) [04:41] i was trying to be rid of this terrible win10 os :( [04:41] sappheiros, 19.04 uses 5.0, 19.10 can be tried using "try ubuntu" (or flavor), download daily iso, write to thumb-drive & try it (try before installing in docuemntation) [04:41] i just clicked 19.04 and got immediately a download link [04:43] sappheiros: 19.10 daily has the 5.2 kernel. But that release is in development - expect bugs ! [04:43] sappheiros, if you want to give 19.10 a sping (ie. download & try it) http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/404/builds -- note 19.10 being development is off-topic in this room, you need to use #ubuntu+1 [04:44] s/sping/spin [04:44] I suggested 19.10 as it contains the 5.2 kernel; and was an easy way to test what Bashing-om found/suggested [04:45] LOL bugs 4 life [04:45] surely ubuntu's bugs are better than win10's bugs ... [04:46] isn't 19.10 to be released next month? [04:46] is there a date set? [04:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseSchedule says oct-17 (I'm runnign it now though) [04:47] should i select 'Install (auto-resize)' for the typical install case? i mean, i've already used windows' disk partition to set aside space [04:47] erm, one moment, i will ask in #ubuntu+1 [04:49] october 17th [04:51] sappheiros: I also have 19.10 - solid as a rock with no issues ; daily updades require a lot of bandwidth. [04:51] is 19.04 not going to solve my problem? [04:51] i absolutely need 19.10 to overcome this black screen ryzen 7 problem? [04:51] (i'm burning a 19.04 USB; in a few minutes i'll find out i guess) [05:17] bleep [05:48] how do I get flash plugin working on firefox 69, in ubuntu 18? [05:49] try > sudo apt install flashplugin-installer [05:59] Mr_Cyclops -- that was about the 5th or 6th thing I have tried, but to no avail [06:26] is there a way to repair grub without CD or usb? [06:27] I have updated to ubuntu 19.04 and now not able to boot ,failed boot detection [06:28] aum, after installing flashplugin-installer , see here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/flash-blocklists . Note that flash is a big security risk, officially deprecated in Firefox, and support is slated to be completely removed in standard firefox releases in 2020. [06:30] fiter, if you're not getting to any GRUB prompt, you'll need some kind of media to boot from. There's no way to repair things without booting the computer. (Well, I suppose you could move the hard drive to another system, but I doubt that helps you much) [06:31] mheath i am getting a grub prompt,if i go to advaced options it cleans, check etc [06:32] but does not load even in recovery [06:34] 18.04.3 and gnome desktop, seems to be gdm-wayland-session? but X running, I intermittently seem to lose the "tray icons" for apps like telegram and slack [06:34] any idea? [06:34] they're sometimes there, sometimes not... [06:34] even if I do nothing [06:35] mheath the security issues of flash are not lost on me - I would not be touching it with a barge pole, except that my current role requires me to use a management portal that's implemented in Flash widgets, and is due to be replaced in 6-9 months [06:37] the other issue is that I have no idea where to put libflashplayer.so so that Firefox 69 can pick it up [06:38] aum, if you install via apt-get it puts it in the right place for you. [06:38] mheath I've installed both adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-installer, but in firefox, about:plugins shows nothing [06:39] fiter, does the prompt say grub> or grub rescue> ? [06:39] https://askubuntu.com/a/1033801/87630 this one seem to have worked [06:40] aum, firefox 69? try about:addons and go to the Plugins tab. [06:40] aum: did you really restart [06:40] mheath, it only shows OpenH264 Video Codec [06:40] about:plugins does show Path: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so [06:40] ztane I restarted firefox [06:41] like killall -9 firefox restarted it ;) [06:41] ztane ps aux|grep -i firefox shows nothing [06:42] also you'd wanna check that your firefox is "for Ubuntu canonical" [06:42] in about [06:42] ztane it says Firefox Quantum 69.0 (64-bit) [06:42] and below that? [06:43] about dialog says "Firefox Quantum -- 69.0 (64-bit) Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0" for me [06:43] Firefox is up to date Firefox is designed by Mozilla, a global community working together to keep the web open, public and accessible to all.Want to help? Make a donation or get involved. Licensing information End-User Rights Privacy Policy [06:43] maybe if you've got a custom install then it doesn't drop in the place [06:43] aum, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Determining_plugin_directory_on_Linux [06:44] just my 0.02 cents [06:47] mheath, I copied to 3 of those locations, plugin now present, thans for help :) [06:48] aum, no problem :) [06:55] is there an irc channel for the ubuntu graphics ppa? I want to check on the status of 435 [06:55] for 19.04 that is [06:56] mheath can you tell how to open grub> [06:56] may be i could be able to do so [06:59] fiter, you mean the grub config? Not sure. Try /etc/grub/grub.cfg [06:59] let me look [07:01] magic_ninja_work during boot [07:02] oh, you just press e when you select the entry to edit the entry [07:02] then you can change the boot parameters with an emacs-like editor to add/remove stuff. If you are having issues try removing the "quiet" option. That will give you a more verbose boot. [07:16] fiter: /etc/default/grub and after you edit the file do a : sudo update-grub [07:20] ChiLLabiS: did you get response on your bug yet? [07:21] Yeah but it wasn't helpfull.. And now i've forgotten what the dude in #ubuntu-kernel write [07:21] wrote* [07:22] ChiLLabiS: ChiLLabiS, the buggy version is 5.0.0-27, the fix is in -proposed and at version 5.0.0-28; at least according to the bug [07:22] Yeah but i can't install that kernel.. or don't know how to rather [07:23] ChiLLabiS: i think its when you enable proposed repo, then sudo apt update [07:23] Aslong as it will be released next update i'm happy.. Just dont remove it from source [07:23] kk [07:24] ChiLLabiS: still they need someone to test it, to make sure it gets solved/confirmed [07:24] i did activate the proposed repo and tryed but it didn't fix anything [07:24] Hi. I have some keyboard scripts I like to run on login. These use `synclient`. xinput lists only a wayland mouse and no synaptics properties. [07:24] ChiLLabiS: but are you sure that activated kernel -28? [07:24] That i didn't. just did and update and upgrade [07:24] running synclient tells me that the synaptics driver is not loaded. It is installed. What do I do to enable the synaptics driver? [07:26] What I want to fix is: my touchpad right mouse button is now left clicking [07:26] and also maybe disable the touchpad while typing. [07:26] Can I do this without synaptics? [07:28] ChiLLabiS: after apt update, maybe you can apt-cache search the kernel and install? [07:28] Okay will try that later [07:28] cool, good luck ChiLLabiS [07:29] Thank you [07:35] ChiLLabiS pressing e while boot I have [07:35] opened grub menu [07:35] it shows set params ubuntu [07:36] now how can i update grub? [07:39] Dunno really. I just edit grub inside GNOME [07:39] fiter: what are you trying to do [07:39] I'm a newb xD [07:42] EriC^^ i am not able to load, grub failed [07:42] boot detection so i wanna recover grub [07:44] what happens when you turn on the pc now [07:46] EriC^^ ubuntu dot keep on moving again and [07:46] again [07:46] did you try pressing esc? [07:46] EriC^^ let me chekx [07:48] EriC^^ nothing happens it comes to the menu [07:48] what menu? [07:48] ubuntu , adavanced , windows etc or grub [07:48] i meant pressing esc when the dots appear [07:49] oh i was doing it on start, let me do it [07:50] EriC^^ now loaded wow , [07:50] why is that? [07:50] coincidence [07:51] lol [07:51] :D [07:51] try "cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999" [07:51] paste the link here [07:52] EriC^^ now i will log in from that machine [07:52] ok [07:52] so meet you with output.of.this command [07:55] EriC^^ its here https://termbin.com/q1id1 [08:01] fiter: next time it happens, try pressing esc and you should see the log of the boot, see if it mentions what it's doing [08:02] fiter: if that doesnt have any clues you could try adding more logging to the grub kernel line, and or boot a live usb and take a look at the syslog to see the very last boot [08:03] EriC^^ but when I tried to load using recovery mode without the esc then I was seeing the line failed grub detection [08:03] Is there a way to check whether the issue is with grub or not? [08:04] or make sure persistent logging is enabled and check the last log with journalctl [08:05] ducasse how to check last log with journalctl? [08:06] journalctl -b -1 [08:06] fiter: i dont think it's grub related, if you get grub then you're probably good, grub-wise [08:09] EriC^^ thanks for the help for now its very nice for me to have a fine working system looks very nice [08:09] fiter: but make sure /var/log/journal exists before rebootimg [08:09] great no problem fiter [08:09] fiter: if you want the persistent logging of boots as ducasse mentioned , do these steps https://askubuntu.com/questions/765315/how-to-find-previous-boot-log-after-ubuntu-16-04-restarts [08:10] EriC^^ ok [08:11] in 18.04 and up it should be on by default [08:11] ducasse it 19.04 [08:12] ah really ducasse ? [08:12] then you don't need to turn it on [08:12] fiter: try "journalctl -b -2" [08:12] EriC^^: really :) [08:12] that's nice :) [08:13] EriC^^ https://termbin.com/cqwz [08:15] can you see my messages? [08:15] my connection was dropped but know there is not issue thats great [08:15] this seems kinda interesting "ammar-Latitude-E6540 gnome-shell[1365]: Failed to create backend: No GPUs found with udev" [08:16] its dual mode with windows installed [08:16] seems after that it proceeded to shut down [08:16] EriC^^ is there something that needs to be fixed? [08:17] fiter: i wonder if that msg is in all or no [08:17] fiter: hit me with "LANG=C journalctl -b -0 | nc termbin.com 9999" for a quick check [08:17] that would be the current boot, that's working [08:19] fiter: seems that error might come up if nomodeset is set, which is what recovery mode usually boots with, so that might be why its there [08:20] yeah, the kernel line has "bef0-1d006d9b57d0 ro recovery nomodeset" so that boot attempt was from recovery mode [08:21] fiter: the boot attempt right before the current one, was it normal or from recovery mode? [08:34] got a weird issue on a ubuntu 18.04 machine. dnsmasq suddenly is not resolving anymore. but ichange my resolve.conf instead of 127.0.0.1 to the dns server i want. then it works just fine. so how could debug dnsmasq/ systemd-resolve --status [08:46] ws2k3: Just to rule stuff out: It's resolv.conf [09:10] @er [09:11] EriC^^ so the issue is due to nomodeset? [09:14] fiter: that particular one yeah, i dunno if the other boots were using nomodeset [09:15] EriC^^ how this can be fixed? [09:17] fiter: run the commands above to see a boot that failed that didnt use nomodeset [09:18] hello. i'm setting up a vm with nextcloud and am wondering if anyone knows how much GB that approximately is (snap or no snap). [09:18] EriC^^ this one ? journalctl -b -2|nc termbin.com 9999? [09:21] sleepymario: the size the OS will take (probably around 5 GB), plus the size that nextcloud and dependencies will take (probably around 1 GB), plus the size you want to have available for nextcloud storage, plus the size you want to have remain available (e.g. to keep file systems fast, swap etc.) [09:23] tomreyn: okay, sounds good. thanks for your help :) [09:24] tomreyn: oh 1 more question: how much RAM would be wise? [09:24] totally forgot about that [09:25] tomreyn: nevermind, found it. [09:25] fiter: no [09:25] fiter: "LANG=C journalctl -b -1 | nc termbin.com 9999" [09:30] https://termbin.com/z16v [09:30] EriC^^ [09:30] fiter: that's also a recovery run [09:31] fiter: perhaps with -b 3? [09:31] you want it not to say "ro recovery nomodeset" at the top [09:31] EriC^^ where? [09:32] in the 3rd line [09:32] right [09:33] so EriC^^ the issue was previously ubuntu 18.04 was loaded with recovery mode and in recovery mode I updated to 19.04 so you will find recovery modes [09:36] fiter: i dont think so [09:36] EriC^^ ok [09:37] fiter: type "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg" [09:37] and cat /etc/default/grub [09:37] fiter: sorry, "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999" [09:38] EriC^^ only last one? [09:38] yeah [09:44] EriC^^ no output [09:50] fiter: what does "cat /proc/cmdline" give? [09:51] EriC^^ BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.0.0-27-generic root=UUID=98240c5d-abcd-47f1-bef0-1d006d9b57d0 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1 [09:56] fiter: ok, so you're not using recovery or nomodeset right now [09:56] EriC^^ ok what to do then? [10:04] fiter: as i said try various boot logs til you find one without nomodeset that had a problem while booting so you can troubleshoot it [10:04] journalctl -b -4 -5 -6...etc [10:32] hi [10:33] are the cuda 10 drivers available for this machine? https://bpaste.net/raw/8vUA [10:33] I am getting errors trying to use the latest tensorflow 1.14 [10:33] InternalError: cudaGetDevice() failed. Status: CUDA driver version is insufficient for CUDA runtime version [10:33] seems tensorflow requires cuda 10 drivers [10:35] CoolerX, what GPU exactly? [10:35] i read: the NVIDIA driver needed for CUDA 10.0 is version 410 or greater, you have 390? [10:36] OerHeks, it is in the paste [10:37] no, i see no gpu details, just "GeForce GTX TIT".. titan X? [10:37] GPU 0: GeForce GTX TITAN X (UUID: GPU-ae5dc3aa-e829-3a4a-569f-8503a95ec695) [10:37] GPU 1: GeForce GTX TITAN X (UUID: GPU-db240fda-2ac6-32a6-55a6-2e8a634b8a9d) [10:38] OerHeks, I contacted the server admin and he said that the official repos don't have cuda 10 drivers [10:38] cuda 10 drivers are available from 3rd party repos and he doesn't want to use 3rd party stuff [10:39] well, we have an official driver ppa; https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [10:40] This PPA is currently in testing, you should be experienced with packaging before you dive in here: [10:41] OerHeks, seems to be in testing, does it have the latest drivers? [10:41] you said I need 410 or higher for cuda 10? [10:41] else no, standard repos do not give 410 https://launchpad.net/nvidia-drivers-ubuntu/+packages [10:42] CUDA 10.0 is the first CUDA release with official support for Ubuntu 18.04. [10:42] that's from here https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/hpc/How-To-Install-CUDA-10-together-with-9-2-on-Ubuntu-18-04-with-support-for-NVIDIA-20XX-Turing-GPUs-1236/ [10:43] So ubuntu is supported? where are the drivers then? [10:44] download the cuda package from nvidia? and install the 410+ driver from driver ppa [10:44] all these contradicting reports make it hard to understand what the situation is [10:44] toons of guides, https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/hpc/How-To-Install-CUDA-10-together-with-9-2-on-Ubuntu-18-04-with-support-for-NVIDIA-20XX-Turing-GPUs-1236/ [10:46] OerHeks, that guide is not about installing drivers [10:46] oh wait maybe it is [10:46] This will pull down and install all of the CUDA 10 packages along with dependencies AND the 410 NVIDIA display driver. [10:48] jups [10:48] OerHeks, so is that not officially supported? [10:49] Is that considered 3rd party? [10:50] not sure, it is the driver ppa official supported by the community [10:50] one could file a bugreport against the ppa packages, 3rd party is out of our hands [10:54] OerHeks, but it is the official driver released by the hardware vendor [10:55] how is that 3rd party? wouldn't the ubuntu ppa be 3rd party since it is not managed by the hardware vendor [10:55] ? [10:58] real 3rd party would be the .run file from the nvidia stire [10:58] site* [10:58] we offer prebuild debs [10:58] those .run files give no upgrade routine, so you need to check them manually [11:00]