 #ask … what  official lubuntu … lubuntu.net /lubuntu.me
 Lubuntu.me
 @tsimonq2 [Lubuntu.me], ok thank  you sir 😃
 @zxcajik [ok thank  you sir 😃], No worries
[06:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7bf4295d4ee8: Remove uneeded whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7bf4295d4ee8
[06:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL72e3feb7ced1: Add used field kde_partition manager] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL72e3feb7ced1
[16:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl, https://phab.lubuntu.me/D40 there's something more wrong here. guess what?
[16:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fixed Ctrl+Alt+B: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D40
[16:49] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, @HMollerCl I just downladed and booted into a new iso of eoan on my test pc. everything works in live except runner. runner doesn't open even on restarting it from session settings. when I go to check the config file, it is mysteriously set to alt+f2 but D40 clearly has it as meta+r
[16:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will install and check more.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> also, @HMollerCl I just downladed and booted into a new iso of …], Shame story after installation. How's it changing meta+R to alt+f2 !!
[18:01] <lynorian> here is something I did not expect kde partition manager can edit fstab
[18:06] <lynorian> and even change /etc/fstab through a gui
[18:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdfba1f5c3381: Add Editing Mount Point] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdfba1f5c3381
[18:07] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker no idea. xdg-open about:blank fails?
[18:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> ctrl+alt+i is set there. 
[18:09] <wxl> bahahahaha
[18:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> aslo, it doesn't work. in settings gui, it shows as a 'xdg-open about:blank' but those quotes shouldn't be there.
[18:09]  * The_LoudSpeaker facepalms
[18:10] <wxl> maybe the comma does need to be there
[18:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> aslo, find ~ -type f -newer /path/to/file for runner doesn't give me anything.
[18:10] <wxl> i notice other ones have commas separating the argumentzxs
[18:10] <wxl> so perhaps it was the exec that was wrong but just the shortcut
[18:11] <wxl> that makes no sense
[18:11] <wxl> it HAS to change something
[18:11] <kc2bez> runner must have it's own config someplace. you can edit the shortcuts in runner itself. 
[18:12] <The_LoudSpeaker> it says find: unknown argument to -type: -
[18:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> I had run find ~ -type -newer .config/lxqt/runner.conf
[18:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah it should have it somewhere. gotta search a bit more.
[18:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> but why did it assign automatically to alt+f2 tho?
[18:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> in D40 you can see that meta+r is set.
[18:14] <wxl> oh well that's cuz you're doing it wrong
[18:14] <wxl> -type f
[18:15] <kc2bez> you can use `locate` too
[18:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> got it, it changes .config/lxqt/lxqt-runner.conf
[18:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> we can add it to default-settings
[18:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> that file I mean
[18:17] <wxl> but i think we need to figure out a more permanent solution
[18:17] <wxl> what happens when a user changes that setting
[18:17] <wxl> ?
 When user changes alt+f2 to meta from runner's settings, that file is created
[18:18] <wxl> like we need to either figure out how to run things in sequence or get upstream to fix their stuff
 @wxl [<wxl> like we need to either figure out how to run things in sequence or get ups …], That sequence changing doesn't seem to work now. Scroll up. I stopped and ran runner again. On a fresh new install and meta + r didn't work.
[18:20] <wxl> it might work at the session level though
 ?
[18:20] <wxl> when it's actually started by x
 I started it from session settings gui.
[18:21] <wxl> that's not a direct replication
[18:22] <wxl> btw i KNEW i told you the right thing. i need to teach you about copy and paste. https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/09/06/%23lubuntu-devel.html#t19:34
 I don't think it will work. Coz it's already modifying the globalkeys config file. We can check more tho.
[18:22] <wxl> this might be worthy of an upstream issue
[18:22] <wxl> assuming you can verify the behavior in at least debian (manjaro if you want to be really complete)
[18:22] <wxl> i think @teward001 already did that
 @wxl [<wxl> assuming you can verify the behavior in at least debian (manjaro if you wa …], That will take time. Current fix seems to be to put lxqt-runner.conf in default settings.
 @wxl [<wxl> i think @teward001 already did that], Send link ploxx. I will copy his steps to report.
[18:23] <kc2bez> I couldn't find a Manjaro release the other day. 
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> I couldn't find a Manjaro release the other day.], What?
[18:24] <kc2bez> for LXQt
[18:24] <wxl> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/09/06/%23lubuntu-devel.html#t20:35
[18:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl, stop sending logs bruv. you will kill me with guilt, there are easier ways. XD
[18:27] <wxl> oh no, this seems very effective :)
[18:27] <kc2bez> XD
[18:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah relases for openbox and i3 exist in community section, lxqt is missing.
[18:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> manjaro ones.
[18:28] <kc2bez> Arco looks like it may be an option however. 
[18:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> it also has xfce, openbox and i3wm
[18:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> debian seems a good option.
[18:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> so you want me to put lxqt-runner.conf in default settings.
[18:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, about that comma in xdg-open about:blank, I went to gui, changed the command to one without quotes. works fine. but putting that comma there without quotes doesn't.
[18:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> what should we do about that?
[18:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb85f8d2ffed1: Add path for mounting a drive in fstab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb85f8d2ffed1
[18:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9f5f693731da: Add OK button to get mount point] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9f5f693731da
[18:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4d95055d3804: Add Cancel button] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4d95055d3804
[18:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL45241da6ef8c: Add Save changes buttons] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL45241da6ef8c
[18:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5708f9312f33: Add mounted every time immediately and saved later] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5708f9312f33
[19:16] <wxl> i think it parses the config and when it does the commas are meaningful
[19:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> and about runner?
[19:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> I should put a diff?
[19:21] <wxl> yeah
[19:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> side quest, how do I install an app from an appimage in disco?
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdbf3c9326a7d: Add how to unmount stuff] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdbf3c9326a7d
[20:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe99e97e6c17c: Add Mount point options fields] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe99e97e6c17c
[20:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> is there a task involving sddm somewhere?
[20:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> I think sddm requires a login button in it's gui. pressing enter is intuitive but it might feel odd to some people (happened with me) that there is only an empty field below their name.
[20:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> what say @kc2bez @HMollerCl @wxl @tsimonq2 @lynorian and also others (can't tag all)
[21:05] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: fwupdate [amd64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [12-6] (lubuntu)
[21:05] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: fwupdate [i386] (eoan-proposed/universe) [12-6] (lubuntu)
[21:05] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: fwupdate [armhf] (eoan-proposed/universe) [12-6] (lubuntu)
 Standup time?
 I don't have anything from my end except that I got my Authy account back
[21:06] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: fwupdate [arm64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [12-6] (lubuntu)
[21:06] <kc2bez> !standup
[21:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D43 
[21:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added a config file for runner.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D43
[21:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/
[21:07] <kc2bez> sounds like good news @tsimonq2
 Yes :)
 I think Dan then Raman?
[21:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> works.
[21:08] <guiverc> o/
[21:08] <lynorian> o\
[21:09] <kc2bez> then guiverc and lynorian 
 Go for it Dan
[21:09] <kc2bez> not much to report here. we closed out the wallpaper contest. I got a nice email from the winner. 
[21:10] <kc2bez> I have the wallpaper. will get with tsimonq2 when he has a chance
[21:10] <kc2bez> that is about it from me. 
 Nice work!
 Raman?
[21:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> one sec
 Here ping me when you'd like
[21:12] <The_LoudSpeaker> fixed runner
[21:12] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D43
[21:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added a config file for runner.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D43
[21:12] <The_LoudSpeaker> comma was done but missed the i
[21:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D40
[21:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fixed Ctrl+Alt+B: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D40
[21:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> gotta do it again. also will look into those quotes tonight.
[21:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> hopefully these two enough for T59
[21:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[21:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] fix keyboard shortcuts: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59
[21:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl has some nice ideas on screensavers.
[21:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> but vote for drift ploxx. 
[21:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
[21:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
[21:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> will look over it at the weekend
[21:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> re: grub-theme
[21:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah. still gotta learn how to include it into a source which already installs many binaries.
[21:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> work in progress.
[21:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30 
[21:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Theme GRUB: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30
[21:16] <wxl> speak of the devil
[21:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> someone who is free just go and check the theme's latest version. preferrably on a new system.
[21:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> I made some changes to postinst and prerm files.
[21:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> added a script so that we don't mess with default grub config. i.e /etc/defaul/grub
[21:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> no tasks regarding lists.
[21:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> that's it.
[21:18] <wxl> *standing ovation*
[21:18] <wxl> great work raman
 Friendly reminder to prepare a paste for the standup :) but nice work!
 @wxl [<wxl> great work raman], +1
[21:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, suggest new laptop. 11 inches is now feeling a bit small.
[21:18] <lynorian> Good work raman
 Chris is next?
[21:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah I was preparing a paste but you called me up.
 Feeling any better guiverc?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> yeah I was preparing a paste but you called me up.], It's all good :)
[21:19] <guiverc> sorry nothing, (not doing well pain wise so concentration limited - doing what I can..)
[21:19] <wxl> at least you helped with comments on the vlc bug XD
 Get well soon!
[21:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> @guiverc you were ill? /are ill? get well soon.
[21:19] <wxl> hope you feel better guiverc 
 get well soon
[21:20] <lynorian> my turn
 feel better Chris
 Go for it lynorian
[21:20] <lynorian> Update versions for lots of stuff
[21:20] <lynorian> Update featherpad preference
[21:20] <lynorian> Spellcheck Screengrab and Featherpad one more time
[21:20] <lynorian> find and replace screenshot for libreoffice writer
[21:20] <lynorian> More Zoom in libreoffice calc
[21:20] <lynorian> function sidebar in libreoffice calc
[21:20] <lynorian> Style in libreoffice calc
[21:20] <lynorian> Rotating images in libreoffice impress and libreoffice writer and bring forward and stuff 
[21:20] <lynorian> kde partion manager partion proeprties
[21:20] <lynorian> Changing mount point via gui
[21:22] <wxl> great work as always lynorian 
[21:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> gawd level work. I should prepare a list of things you mention during standups. Will be useful in #lubuntu for quick support I guess.
 Heh :)
 +1 wxl, the work you do is amazing lynorian
 +1
[21:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> like once lynorian starts commiting the changes, all I see is a string of messages from lubot. 
 :D
 wxl?
[21:25]  * The_LoudSpeaker shakes wxl out of sleep.
[21:25] <wxl> oh yes
[21:25] <wxl> nothing from me really. helping raman mostly :)
[21:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> I should start calling you sensei
[21:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
 XD
[21:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> provided, you don't mind old man?
[21:26] <wxl> heh
[21:26] <wxl> it will do, padawan
[21:27] <wxl> i will say while everyone is here they SHOULD look at the xscreensaver task
[21:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> vote for drift.
[21:28] <wxl> there's ultimately several ideas all stuffed in there:
[21:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will send coffee.
 What's xscreensaver?
[21:28] <wxl>  1. which screensavers to enable (what the task is written about)
[21:28] <wxl>  2. choosing a default screensaver
[21:28] <wxl>  3. potentially making our own lubuntu screensaver (and there's an "easy" way to do this rather than writing our own hack)
[21:29] <wxl>  4. modernizing the lock dialog which i have mostly done the work on but someone probably needs to just tweak it to their liking
[21:30] <kc2bez> ack
[21:30] <kc2bez> XD
[21:30] <kc2bez> would you like us to reply with a list 1-4 on the task?
[21:31] <wxl> https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7zkk4t9CE1rtmlvfo3_250.gif
[21:31] <wxl> ooh better https://i.imgur.com/R7cxu39.gif
[21:31] <wxl> ANYWAYS
[21:32] <wxl> it needs feedback really, kc2bez. you've already given yours so i'm not looking at you.
[21:32] <wxl> #4 is something someone should pick up on though
[21:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will be creating the screensaver if we choose 3rd option but I am sure it won't even be nearly as good as options already available. that's why I am saying vote for drift.
[21:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> add #4 to furbaby list. XD
[21:33]  * The_LoudSpeaker runs
[21:35] <wxl[m]> Anyways done 
[21:36] <kc2bez> thanks wxl
[21:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> thanks sensei
 I think #4 might be the most important as that is what I think looks worst
[21:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> true that. looks like I am in 90's
[21:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> it gives those feels.
[21:39] <The_LoudSpeaker> who's next btw?
[21:40] <The_LoudSpeaker> @teward, get up bruv!
[21:40]  * The_LoudSpeaker splashes a bucket full of ice water on teward 
[21:41] <teward> Standup?
[21:41] <kc2bez> yes
[21:41] <teward> E:Busy
[21:41] <teward> E:OnCommuteHome
[21:41] <teward> E:NoReportAvailable
[21:41] <kc2bez> 👍
[21:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> ack.
[21:42] <teward> in terms of Lubuntu stuff, nothing to report
[21:42] <teward> Been busy with other thinfs
[21:42] <teward> Unfortunately
[21:43] <teward> Always an unending todo list though
[21:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> vote on T21
[21:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl, by any chance you have the previous verison of config files of openbox and globalkeys? gotta check how opening browser was implemented there. comma.
[21:46] <teward> Add it to my list.  Cant do squat from my phone here lol
[21:46] <teward> :P
[21:47] <teward> will review once i am home
[21:47] <teward> Then i have to smack Simon a few hundred times for his email account sending spam
[21:48] <teward> :P
[21:49] <kc2bez> E:HEDIDNTGETTHEEMAIL
[21:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> he never gets the mail. 
[21:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> wonder where the mails from my bot are ending up.
[21:51] <wxl[m]> Raman they're in the repos! 
[21:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> E:reposcrashed
[21:54] <wxl> say what, raman?
[22:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> ohh you meant the earlier files.
[22:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> I thought you meant my mails.
[22:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[22:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf$197
[22:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> shouldn't this line also be xdg-open about:blank ?
[22:23]  * The_LoudSpeaker fixes something, messes another thing or makes a silly mistake
[22:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> *no one notices*
[22:23]  * The_LoudSpeaker finds it himself.
[22:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> *tries to fix*
[22:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> *cycle repeats*
[22:24] <wxl> i think you need the comma, dude, but yes
[22:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> i am listening.
[22:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> but comma doesn't make it launch na.
[22:27] <wxl> in the conf, not the gui
[22:27] <wxl> and you prolly need to reload it
[22:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> i did iirc. will do it again.
[22:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> wow! comma works, 
[22:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> did I miss that last time when I decided to remove it. It was due to i I guess.
[22:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> yup! it was definetly i
[22:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> I noticed it only today
[22:31]  * The_LoudSpeaker facepalms
[22:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> how do I undo D40?
[22:31] <wxl> maybe i should look in the logs and see where you screwed up
[22:31] <wxl> it's usually there 
[22:31] <wxl> X'''''''''''''''''''D
[22:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> ;_;
[22:32] <wxl> you just add a new diff. you can fix the keystroke from i while you're at it
[22:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1c1a92b6abda: Update lxqt-sudo screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1c1a92b6abda
[22:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> keystroke form?
[22:32] <wxl> i
[22:32] <wxl> it's supposed to be b right?
[22:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah that only. also, check the link above.
[22:33]  * wxl looks for the one link above, because there's certainly only one
[22:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Feoan/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf$197
[22:34] <wxl> right
[22:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> here should also be xdg-open 
[22:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> it will then open default browser.
[22:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> consistent
[22:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, anyone with a search key on their keyboard?
[22:35] <wxl> consistent i like
[22:35]  * wxl pats The_LoudSpeaker 
[22:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> I have one. I think we should set it to runner.
[22:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> I ain't a puppy da! A coffee would be very much appreciated next time. XD
[22:36] <wxl> i like that idea
[22:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> coffee one or search key one?
[22:36] <wxl> search key
[22:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> why you do this?
[22:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> I hate you. :)
[22:38] <wxl> you brought it up!
[22:38] <wxl> or is it that you need coffee? Xd
[22:38] <wxl> you can always make a request of the LC XD
[22:39] <The_LoudSpeaker> I always need coffee.
[22:39] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, I am going to request lc something else. ;)
[22:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, just noticed, runner can be launched via 'lxqt-runner' then why are we running it like '/runner/show_hide_dialogue' ? shame story, keys must not be set according to applets/modules, functions must be set to launch according to keys.
[22:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will use /runner/show_hide_dialogue only for now tho, consistent. but gonna poke upstream again.
[22:44] <wxl> might ask agaida on #lxqt
[22:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> ack.
[22:57] <wxl> might be good to ask him about the conflicting shortcut thing, too
[23:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will make changes to D43 only.
[23:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> okay I guess.
[23:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/D43
[23:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added a config file for runner.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D43
[23:36] <wxl> you going to ask agaida abou THAT problem?
[23:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> wxl, this should mostly fix T59.
[23:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl @tsimonq2 ^^^
[23:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> what problem?
[23:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> specify.
[23:37] <wxl> the weird conflict between the runner shortcut in runner and the one in globalkeys
[23:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah. that. 
[23:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> THAAAT
[23:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> one sec.
[23:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl, @tsimonq2 pass D43 so that I can sleep in peace now.
[23:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> dang! for got to change firefox to xdg-open
[23:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> wait a sec.
[23:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> now check.
[23:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> should be done.
[23:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> as I said, cycle repeats! 
[23:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> *sigh*
[23:56]  * The_LoudSpeaker waves goodbye. sleeps.