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 mv or rn the entire .gimp folder and start gimp vanilla. unless you have tons of customisations that take forever to reconstruct of course
 at least you may fetch a clean `sessionrc` and compare the lines
 [Edit] 'mv' the entire .gimp folder and start gimp vanilla. unless you have tons of customisations that take forever to reconstruct of course
 [Edit] `mv` the entire .gimp folder and start gimp vanilla. unless you have tons of customisations that take forever to reconstruct of course
 @malditobastardo [I don't know. Using gimp was before a PIA and now its difficult to open the tool …], I wonder if libhandy would be able to improve a situation like that🤔
 Under wayland, perhaps
 That's the hope
 gimp 2.8 is gtk+ 2.0, so no
 it would require X still
 Oops
[15:42] <flaburgan> dohbee gimp will reach gtk 3 soon
[15:42] <flaburgan> most of it is already ported
 @flaburgan [dohbee gimp will reach gtk 3 soon], not in the xenial repo though
[16:14] <flaburgan> hm
[16:14] <flaburgan> that's probably true
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 Hey guys, … I would like to take a closer look at how touch events are handled, e.g. scrolling with my fingers and so on. … Can someone point me to the code (or the project) where this is handled?
 what do you mean by "handled" exactly?
 Read as input?
 the kernel gives input events. toolkits and applications react to those as they see fit
 So that moves to the place where the reaction is coded xD
 [Edit] So that moves the question to "where the reaction is coded?" xD
 [Edit] So that moves the question to "where tis he reaction coded?" xD
 [Edit] So that moves the question to "where is he reaction coded?" xD
 [Edit] So that moves the question to "where is the reaction coded?" xD
 I think in the terminal app at least part of it is code in Terminal.qml
 well, terminal app is simply getting the events and choosing to do something with them in the UI
 a different app may choose to do something differently
 True :3
 So my general goal would be to "adjust" some parameters (I know it will be harder than that) such that scrolling doesn't feel so... sloppy? Bad? I don't know how else to describe it.
 I guess QT "handles" scrolling and stuff? The kernel just gives the information "touch event at x,y", etc.?
 @LEOLEOSP [So my general goal would be to "adjust" some parameters (I know it will be harde …], the fix for that is likely not related to the touch handling code
 most performance issues are likely either in the apps themselves or in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (or in qt itself perhaps)
 it also feels differently across different devices currently because of this
 No I don't mean the performance issues, as a concrete example I mean the deceleration when you scroll and let go of the screen feels really wrong. You can't read the text, but the animation is continuing smoothly, do you know what I mean? … I am using a Nexus 5 btw.
 It just doesn't feel natural, it scrolls way too long after you let go, in my opinion.
 seems ok here on my nexus 5, in at least the ubports app (but it's not too far to scroll)
 but the answer i guess is "it depends"
 @LEOLEOSP [It just doesn't feel natural, it scrolls way too long after you let go, in my op …], In which app?
 hmm, the "software licenses" list in system-settings feels fine here
 Teleports and dash feel fine here
 Guess it's because I am used to Android, then... … Anyhow, so you think this deceleration is handled in ubuntu-ui-toolkit?
 maybe something related to the previous bug of hovering which was worked around without a proper fix
 @LEOLEOSP [Guess it's because I am used to Android, then... … Anyhow, so you think this decel …], You didn't answer my question :p
 @Fuseteam [You didn't answer my question :p], I guess in every app, since it's all handled the same? … Try the settings app, and scroll very softly and release your finger. It scrolls on for like a second before it stops. I think this feels unnatural
 You experience this in every app?
 I cannot confirm this behavior
 Have you tried rebooting?
 @LEOLEOSP [I guess in every app, since it's all handled the same? … Try the settings app, and …], eh?
 it feels basically the same as my pixel with android feels
 Mhh okay I just did some further testing, the settings app seems definitely to be the worst offender? Why does it feel so different scrolling there compared to the other apps?
 i don't know. it's hard to know what you mean, since it feels fine here
 @LEOLEOSP [Mhh okay I just did some further testing, the settings app seems definitely to b …], Which part?
 mmm, the main page does feel off, but not sure why
 that's an adjustable property wth flickables right?
 It does?
 inertia or momentum or something
 LOl
 I'm bad at physics
 Probably momentum
 inertia
 Inertia is a type of mass......wait what?👀
 With the recent changes in RC channel for Libertine apps to "flatten all windows" - I've found some apps now work better and some apps work worse.  Since one of the capabilities I still find lacking in UT native apps is for a full featured text editor (even though I think tedit, uWriter and uEdit are great to have) - I've found my old
[17:56] <ubptgbot> Libertine option is no longer working as well - but luckily `gedit` is now working a lot better.
 [Edit] With the recent changes in RC channel for Libertine apps to "flatten all windows" - I've found some apps now work better and some apps work worse.  Since one of the capabilities I still find lacking in UT native apps is for a full featured text editor (even though I think tedit, uWriter and uEdit are great to have) - I've found
[17:56] <ubptgbot> my old Libertine option of `medit` is no longer working as well - but luckily `gedit` is now working a lot better.
 Hmmm
 @Fuseteam [Inertia is a type of mass......wait what?👀], inertia is not a type of mass. it's a property based on mass and other things. but anyway
 In response to my own post above:  With UT I've found the best attitude to have if one wishes to use it as a daily driver is not to get attached to specific apps - but rather adapt to what is avaiable that provides the functions that are desired.
 @Javacookies [that's an adjustable property wth flickables right?], What are flickables?
 @LEOLEOSP [What are flickables?], UI components provided by Qt in QML
 @Javacookies [inertia or momentum or something], some velocity and overshoot properties it looks like, but have to change code it seems
 yes, and as I mentioned, we also had an issue with hover which I believe wasn't fixed properly and that might be affecting the scrolling
 i think there is maybe an issue in system-settings main page itself; because the "software licenses" list for example feels just fine
 but main settings list feels "sticky"
 meh, and it's compiled into the binary as a resource
 @TotalSonic [In response to my own post above:  With UT I've found the best attitude to have …], Totally agree
 I see, thanks for your help 👍
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