[15:00] o/ [15:00] o? [15:01] o/ [15:01] o! [15:01] o/ [15:01] o~ [15:01] o// [15:01] o; [15:02] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [15:02] Meeting started Thu Sep 12 15:02:07 2019 UTC. The chair is sil2100. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:02] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: [15:02] OoooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOO [15:02] #topic Lightning rounds === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Lightning rounds [15:02] echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) [15:02] juliank rbalint vorlon tdaitx sil2100 mwhudson waveform bdmurray infinity xnox cyphermox doko [15:02] juliank: o/ [15:02] um [15:02] s [15:03] sorry system was freezing [15:03] - uploaded iptables revert to legacy [15:03] - verified the apt sru bugs [15:04] - some apt discussions [15:04] - fixed autopkgtest-cloud XSS issue and various follow ups on that one [15:04] (done) [15:04] * prepared backports of wireshark 2.6.10 in ppa:rbalint/scratch2 for *-security [15:04] * fixed libcec FTBFS through Debian [15:04] * wrote scripts to easily rebuild package A and run autopkgtest of package B on it https://salsa.debian.org/rbalint/autopkgtest-bisector [15:04] * updated script for updating systemd to any upstream commit https://salsa.debian.org/systemd-team/systemd/merge_requests/49 [15:04] * finished systemd 242 for Eoan LP: #1843755 [15:04] Launchpad bug 1843755 in systemd (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please accept systemd 242 to Eoan " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1843755 [15:04] * working on systemd 243 to get into shape for FANIMAL [15:04] (done) [15:05] vorlon: o/ [15:05] * short week, took Monday off [15:05] * out tomorrow (travel swap for sprint) [15:05] * proposed-migration: working through a lot of python NBS, openstack now almost done [15:05] * finalizing kick-off message for ia32 packages discussion [15:05] * filed a bug on autodep8 about it generating wrong python2 tests for python3-only packages, but not actually sure where autopkgtest pulls autodep8 from for running (https://bugs.debian.org/940001) [15:05] Debian bug 940001 in autodep8 "Source: python-foo + Binary: python3-foo + Binary: python-foo-common -> bad" [Normal,Open] [15:05] (done) [15:05] tdaitx: your turn, around? [15:05] oh also I guess ghc transition finished in the last week :) [15:06] Guess Tiago is gone? [15:06] Anyway, I'll go now [15:07] - SRU reviews and releases [15:07] - Kernel reviews [15:07] - FFe reviews [15:07] - Identified and fixed eoan update-manager regression caused by recent ubuntu-release-upgrader [15:07] - Reverted net-snmp in -updates due to a serious regression, fixed version now in -updates as well [15:07] - Reviewed and sponsored livecd-rootfs changes from Rob regarding explicit artifacts [15:07] - Merged the changes for adding the NoCloud datasource to all device-based ubuntu-image built images [15:07] - Sponsored livecd-rootfs changes for imx6 support [15:07] - Backported recent ubuntu-release-upgrader snap-handling changes to disco [15:07] - Migrated the canonistack bot instance from lcy02 to bos01 [15:07] - Supported overriding EXTRA_SNAPS in livecd-rootfs via the environment [15:07] - Started experimenting with language-pack sanity-testing [15:07] - Discussed and prepared a spec for the ubuntu-image work needed for UC20 support [15:07] - Booking stuff for the release sprint [15:07] (done) [15:07] * delved into migration of boot configuration on older platforms and edge cases [15:07] * discovered various issues with ancient firmware (that shipped with bionic) [15:07] * deduced a new config that works on both old and new firmwares [15:07] * diagnosed an issue in livecd-rootfs: pi images no longer point the cloud-init seed to the boot partition (in the last hour - patch to be filed) [15:07] * diddled the u-boot patches around until they made a vague sort of sense for submission [15:07] * delighted in the production of a pi4 kernel by Hui Wang, and hence... [15:08] * ditched my own efforts on the pi4 kernel, but then... [15:08] * debated the possibilities of multiple kernels on an image with sil2100 and vorlon given that the new pi4 kernel efforts appear to be pi4 only (currently incompatible with older variants) [15:08] done ... with apologies to bdmurray [15:08] hah! [15:08] Too bad Brian's not around to fully appreciate this [15:08] bdmurray is off today still I guess [15:08] that's why I figured someone should take his shtick ;) [15:09] No infinity on the channel [15:09] Ah, he's out this week too [15:09] xnox is on plumbers I guess? Same for cyphermox? [15:09] yup [15:09] doko: o/ [15:10] doko is at GNU cauldron so also maybe not available [15:10] - started test rebuilds [15:10] - filing bug reports for the test rebuild (in progress) [15:10] - toolchain updates for linux 5.3 [15:10] - now in Montreal for the GNU Cauldron [15:10] (done) [15:11] \o/ [15:11] Any questions regarding status? [15:11] #topic Release incoming bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Release incoming bugs [15:11] #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [15:11] seems empty [15:12] I guess nothing here [15:12] For ee as well, everything prioritized [15:12] No high+ bugs [15:12] #topic Team proposed-migration report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Team proposed-migration report [15:12] #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [15:12] Can't remember, the imagemagick is blocked on an MIR? [15:13] *imagemagick upload [15:13] sil2100, yes LP: #1827442 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1827442 in x265 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libheif" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1827442 [15:13] sil2100: the incoming report will be pretty full tomorrow ... maybe look at https://people.canonical.com/~doko/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20190906-eoan.html for now [15:14] doko: we can take a look at that after proposed-migration then [15:14] So next is liberror-perl, and that's assigned to me [15:14] Didn't have time to look at it yet though [15:15] netplan.io, I'd assume cyphermox was looking at that, maybe I should look at it as well since I wanted to dive into netplan anyway [15:15] Anyone looking at it right now or can I card it and assign it to myself? [15:16] regarding imagemagick how about building it without libheif, getting that migrated, then picking up libheif again for 20.04? [15:16] rbalint: there's nothing else of interest in the imagemagick in proposed *except* the libheif re-enablement [15:16] hm, actually vorlon volunteered doing htat [15:17] well, LocutusOfBorg had some further changed, but I pinged him asking about this and he didn't respond [15:17] also it was a revert of a CVE fix so no [15:18] anyway, I think leaving it blocked as-is on the MIR is best [15:18] vorlon, ok, no toolchain update made it more secure? [15:18] not afaik [15:18] awaiting security review [15:18] vorlon, ack, thanks [15:19] Next would be openssh, also unsatisfiable depends [15:20] Anyone looking at that? Anyone have any additional info? [15:21] sil2100: runit is trash and we should remove all references to it from the package [15:21] (it's a non-init service monitoring framework that we want nothing of in Ubuntu, we use systemd) [15:22] so someone want to look at that? [15:22] or did I just volunteer myself ;) [15:23] Was wondering about the latest upload since Colin did it, but then I saw it's a sync from Debian [15:24] vorlon: will you card it and assign it to yourself? ;) [15:24] no, but I'll work on it [15:25] ...that's more than good enough! [15:25] Anyway, I guess that's it then === clobrano_ is now known as clobrano [15:25] I'm going to be pretty unhappy if every future openssh change turns into a merge [15:25] doko: you wanted us to look at the test rebuild results for eoan, right? [15:25] If you want to do that then please consider neutering dh-runit rather than modifying openssh [15:26] vorlon: ^- [15:26] cjwatson: ack [15:27] (since presumably the same thing applies to anything else that's had dh-runit-based patches accepted in Debian, either now or in the future) [15:27] sil2100: yes, because I just finished filing the ftbfs / rls-ee-incoming issues [15:29] cjwatson: (we could also make dh_runit invocation conditional on dpkg-vendor?) [15:29] Could, but cumbersome [15:29] There's 44 packages that need attention from what I see, should we set some time next week maybe to fix some of them? [15:29] (from the eoan test rebuild) [15:29] gaughen: what do you think? ^ [15:29] And I don't see why it would be correct to do it that way if the reason is that it's a distribution-wide policy to avoid runit [15:29] sil2100, yes, we should. [15:30] But let me know if there's some reason I haven't thought of that makes it necessary [15:30] sil2100: fine with me, then they are visible in the incoming bugs as well [15:30] doko, gaughen: let's maybe work on getting a time-slot next week to work on that and see how it goes then [15:30] We can do that after the meeting [15:31] In the meantime, let's proceed [15:31] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: AOB [15:32] Any other business? [15:32] ...timeout! [15:33] #topic Next chair === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team Meeting | Current topic: Next chair [15:33] I choose... xnox ! [15:33] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [15:33] Meeting ended Thu Sep 12 15:33:47 2019 UTC. [15:33] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-09-12-15.02.moin.txt [15:33] Thanks everyone o/ [15:33] good choice! but for the week after next week! :-)