[00:02] nice with ryzen [00:03] Pr070cal: yeah got it wit ha ryzen 7 3700u w/ vega10 512GB nvme and the onborad 8GB ram. Will add an additional 8GB later. [00:03] Nice little laptop. [00:03] woot [00:03] Happy that i didnt run in to the previously mentioned issues with ryzen and linux 5.x [00:03] yeah man better than my desktop lol i think [00:04] 8 core amd fx [00:04] 12 gb ram need another 4gb [00:04] flog: I'm hoping for a X1 Carbon with zen 2 [00:05] There was some reasor for me not choosing the x1 carbon. dont remember what though. [00:05] might have been the full size rj45. [00:06] im installing usb live persistance to a ssd so my system partiton can be swaped out for another os and leave my root folder intact [00:06] hopefully it works [00:06] Pr070cal: what are you trying to achieve? [00:06] so all applications installed install to persistance partition and not to / [00:08] if i install everything and it install to / like /etc then i put a clean upgrade from disc on i lose my / partiton but still have /home partiton [00:08] and lose all the applications i installed like snort [00:08] have to reconfigure firewall and ids [00:08] and reinstall it [00:09] if i use persistance its always on the persistance partiton [00:09] so basically i want a readonly root / [00:09] a home partiton /home [00:10] and another partition read write to make changes to root / without touching it [00:11] then i just replace / with new install and snort and firewall run from /persistance [00:12] android does it [00:12] system partion is read only [00:13] and sometimes you cant touch it or it corrupts and makes device unbootable [00:13] like android tv [00:14] so system is readonly and system gets wiped by fw update when it reboots your /data is intact and everything else === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [00:20] can i symlink / to another partiton then mount it and make changes to / on the new partition like /etc/config but keep changes stored on new partiton and leave / untouched [00:21] like persistance [00:21] Pr070cal: you can bindmount individual files or directories in place [00:21] Pr070cal: trying to get something to work with symlinks will drive you insane [00:21] ok [00:21] can i bindmount / to another drive [00:22] so i dont touch the drive / is on [00:22] and changes to / are stored on the new drive [00:25] whats better persistance or bindmount [00:25] i want to bindmount the whole / drive though [00:25] you can use one to solve the other [00:26] do you use bindmount [00:26] occasionally [00:27] i want all changes to / stored on another drive [00:28] and leave / untouched so when i install to / with new ubuntu it loads files from /etc on other drive when fresh install boots ? [00:29] but / has ~27 things in there. only symlinks to vmlinuz and initrds in / ever get updated, and that happens when you do kernel updates [00:29] so don't bother bindmounting / .. the goal is the changes in /var/ or /home or /etc/ or whatever.. [00:30] i know but then it will use /share or /opt or lib so i thought just mount the whole root but keep it stored somewhere elese [00:31] so when a file on root changes its stored on its own on a new drive [00:32] then when i mount that as root it loads just those new changes [00:32] like persistance on usb but / doesnt get touched [00:35] oh you can bindmount sd on android [00:36] can i bind mount / on empty new drive to / with ubuntu on [00:41] any suggestions for a linux app that is like Window's ProcessExplorer? [00:42] gnome system monitor? htop? ps? [00:42] ps aux [00:42] Oh wait, there is a linux process explorer that apparently is the same as the windows one [00:43] vmmap [00:43] on gdb [00:43] Not supported here though, you'll have to download the deb from sourceforge [00:44] oh system monitor [00:44] lol [00:50] htop seems to be sufficient. thanks. [01:10] if i bindmount do i have to copy old files to new place ? [01:17] I'm trying to find ubuntu games where it's like magic the gathering === zbenjamin is now known as Guest57293 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === hallo is now known as deww [02:13] Are there any GUIs for strace analyses? [02:53] someone should make a world company :) [02:53] employ people over the world to work on projects and pay them a salary [02:54] then collab and work on the project [02:54] over the internet [03:00] not here Pr070cal [03:00] Pr070cal: this channel is only for ubuntu support [03:00] ok sorry about that [03:01] was just an idea but i cant market most of the ideas to dev [03:01] so i couldnt pay people anyway [03:01] !alis | Pr070cal find a suitable channel here [03:01] Pr070cal find a suitable channel here: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [03:02] i have a crypto currency api i want to find all day safe risers lol [03:53] im on wireless with dhcp leases IP ... i want to create client server connection... how to know that which host(server) should i refer automatically from client? [04:24] chieta: ##networking ? [04:25] lotuspsychje On dhcp environment how the client know the Which server should contacted ? ... what tool should i used? [04:39] when I copy the Bionic Live ISO to my thumb drive verbatim, will it have persistence enabled? can I put my existing casper-rw file on a separate USB thumbdrive and it will find it? [04:45] Sven_vB, if you copy [cp] your live ISO to a thumb drive; it'll be a ISO file; you must expand it for it to be bootable, and no it won't look for persistence elsewhere nor have it enabled by default [04:48] guiverc2, with "drive" I meant the disk device, not a partition or FS. :) [04:49] thanks for the info on default kernel params though. [04:50] well I can probably patch it, "quiet splash" -> "persistence " [04:54] hey guys i just recently got a new SSD and i have windows on one, and ubuntu on the other (kubuntu specifically), but when i try and boot to the drive that kubuntu is on, it doesn't work at all. instead, i have to boot to the windows drive, and then a grub bootloader comes up asking if i want to launch windows or kubuntu [04:54] is this a problem? i have heard about windows updates messing up grub and the like [04:59] in that case you might want to install an EFI version of GRUB on the Kubuntu drive. [05:31] need help connecting a bluetooth joystick to ubuntu [05:32] https://www.amazon.com/Cynoculars-Virtual-Reality-Headset/dp/B01LKZA7FQ is the brand === im0nde_ is now known as im0nde [06:40] hey i have an arch guest and I notice the guest gnome terminal has the same settings as the ubuntu host... but they don't look identical. does ubuntu do anything to tweak the aesthetics of their gnome-terminals? [08:22] Hi guys, in ubuntu 19.04, synaptic show me that the packages "libsnmp30" and "libsnmp-base" are "Installed (local and obsolete)" but if remove it, there are other dependencies: colord, libsane ... [08:31] gst568923: best to pastebin the full apt output, so volunteers can think along with you [08:33] lotuspsychje I have used frontend Synaptic, what is the corresponding command cli? [08:34] "frontend synaptic" [08:34] apt ? [08:34] gst568923: wich packages are you trying to install/purge? [08:35] does it matter [08:38] lotuspsychje in the previous days I normally opened synaptic and I clicked on the update button, to update other packages and I found that the "libsnmp30" and "libsnmp-base" packages that from the "installed" item are automatically passed to the "installed (local or obsolete)" [08:40] gst568923: can you run and post this to get us started? it returns some general info on your apt repository configuration and package management system, without actually changing anything: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 MJCDawy: yes, details matter [08:43] gst568923: if you however dislike the idea of running those commands which you may not know/understand, you could also just show some synaptic screenshots, like form the detail view of when it updates package lists, and the screeen where it discusses that those packages are obsolete, and the screen where it wants to remove those other packages. [08:43] lotuspsychje, hello I want to manage a package. what is the thing like synaptic for the cli [08:43] what details would matter in this inquiry [08:43] MJCDawy: feel free to come discuss this in #ubuntu-discuss [08:44] I'm already too deep inside the ubuntu beast I fear, lest I risk partial digestion [08:47] tomreyn https://pastebin.com/cBjmPK0g [08:48] Can anyone suggest a command line tool I can use to monitor CPU use in real time? [08:48] anyone know if there is an official channel for the ubuntu graphics ppa? [08:48] nvidia | magic_ninja [08:48] !nvidia [08:48] For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [08:49] magic_ninja, atop will give a lot of details. top is the simple version of that and is probably already installed [08:49] gst568923: hmm my italian is not very good, i'm afraid. [08:49] I want to speak with the maintainers of the ppa [08:49] qtop is very much like windows task manager [08:49] magic_ninja: contact the maintainer on the ppa.. [08:50] full circle now, anyone know if the ppa has its own irc channel? [08:51] tomreyn "I seguenti pacchetti sono stati aggiornati:" translated in english "The following packages have been updated:" [08:51] oops, not you magic_ninja. I meant BWestOz [08:51] BWestOz: realtime wont be possible since any application will need to receive, process and output the information. top can do it fast enough usually. [08:51] BWestOz, top or atop [08:52] tomreyn "I seguenti pacchetti sono stati installati:" translated "The following packages have been installed:" [08:52] !alis | magic_ninja to find a channel [08:52] magic_ninja to find a channel: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [08:52] thats fine. appreciate it. I just figured someone in here might know of it off the top of their head [08:53] gst568923: thanks. so none of this suggests that these packages you mentioned are obsolete, just that they are about to be upgraded [08:53] BWestOz, atop will give you extensive information, and per-cpu information. top is a summary [08:53] BWestOz, htop is good if atop is too much information [08:54] I'm just having a look with top at the moment. Thank you all very much [08:54] tomreyn I know it sounds strange but they are shown in that entry after I updated the day "Commit Log for Fri Sep 6 13:05:45 2019" [08:56] It's quite fun clicking away on my browser and watching top. Not very scientific though! [08:57] furthermore clicking with the right button, the reinstallation entry is disabled, the only items that can be activated on synaptic are "remove" or "remove completely" [08:59] tomreyn maybe I found the problem [09:01] Thank you all for your helpful suggestions. [09:03] my installed version is "5.7.3 + dfsg-5ubuntu1.1" but by clicking on synaptic on "force version" the entry "5.7.3 + dfsg-5ubuntu1.1 (now)" appears. Maybe I should downgrade to "5.7.3 + dfsg-5ubuntu1 (disco)" [09:03] tomreyn [09:05] !info libsnmp30 disco [09:05] libsnmp30 (source: net-snmp): SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) library. In component main, is optional. Version 5.7.3+dfsg-5ubuntu1 (disco), package size 922 kB, installed size 3907 kB [09:07] gst568923: this suggests the latest version of libsnmp30 in 19.04 "disco" is 5.7.3+dfsg-5ubuntu1. but this information can be out of date, which your system seeing 5.7.3+dfsg-5ubuntu1.1 seems to suggest [09:08] so maybe you've just hit the middle of a mirror update, and should just reload the packages list. [09:08] i.e. refresh the repository cache. [09:12] tomreyn I downgraded and works :-) probably version 1.1 was not referred to ubuntu disco but to (now) that I didn't understand what it means [09:14] just dont hold it on this downgraded version and you should be fine. [09:16] tomreyn the word "now" to which version of ubuntu refers? [09:17] to the UBUNTU_CODENAME in /etc/os-release [09:18] though i'm not 100% certain on this [09:18] tomreyn what about the repository server even if I am in Italy which servers are more reliable "http://archive.ubuntu.com" or "http://it.archive.ubuntu.com"? What do you suggest me? [09:21] gst568923: the latter is usually fine. [09:21] !mirrors [09:21] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Disco, and help keeping the servers' load low! [09:22] actually ignore what ubottus told you there and look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors [09:23] it.archive.ubuntu.com is an alias for ubuntu.mirror.garr.it. [09:24] ...but this can change, so it's best to keep using it.archive.ubuntu.com [09:25] tomreyn how did you find the corresponding alias? [09:28] gst568923: using the "host" command on a terminal. "dig" or "systemd-resolve" would work, too. [09:29] tomreyn yes, `dig it.archive.ubuntu.com` works [09:30] tomreyn `dig archive.ubuntu.com` return me 91.189.88.XXX varius number [09:44] yes, DNS can be exciting. [09:47] For 16.04, which apt package holds the virt-rescue binary? [09:47] http://libguestfs.org/virt-rescue.1.html [09:48] libguestfs-tools [09:49] how to setup caps lock to act as home key permanently? [10:07] hello, how can I decrypt an img file which is the image of a luks partition? [10:11] Guifle: losetup, then cryptsetup luksOpen [10:12] vlt, yeah, just made it work, thank you [10:27] Hey, how do I list downgradable packages? [10:35] hi [10:54] how can I blacklist a module? adding "blacklist bluetooth" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf doesn't seem to be working [10:57] hi === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [10:57] is there a page like: packages.debian.org for ubuntu? i would like to search for the package mariadb-backup to see in which ubuntu it is available [10:59] ah, crap. never mind [11:16] what is the difference between 'end of support' and 'end of life' ? [11:17] what is the difference between 'end of STANDARD support' and 'end of life' ? [11:17] perhaps you can have no standard support [11:18] Extended Maintenance (ESM) [11:18] http://releases.ubuntu.com/ [11:19] https://ubuntu.com/esm [11:19] @ redecas [11:22] redecas: end of standard support (+ optional (commercially available) extended maintenance) = end of life. [11:24] tomreyn: thx [11:27] curl: relocation error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgnutls.so.30: symbol _idn2_punycode_decode version IDN2_0.0.0 not defined in file libidn2.so.0 with link time reference [11:27] anyone knows how to deal with this? Since apt is also broken now ofc [11:31] Dirkos: this shouldn't impact grub unless you use httpS urls for apt archives. [11:32] Dirkos: which ubuntu version is this, are all available updates installed? [11:34] Dirkos: actually this seems to have also broken "apt update" with only http urls according to bug 1843507 (which has since been fixed). [11:34] bug 1843507 in libidn2 (Ubuntu) "apt-get update to latest libidn2.so.0 causes multiple application failures including apt-update" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1843507 [11:35] ok thanks! [11:40] Hey. [11:41] When trying to install ubuntu, I'm greeted with a "EFI Stub: UEFI Secure Boot is enabled" and then nothing else, on a black screen [11:41] I tried various options, nomodeset, and so on, and nothing seems to work [11:42] Reventlov: try disabling uefi secure boot in the bios for now. you can re-enable it later if needed. [11:42] I also get a black screen, without the message [11:43] intel core i7, 8th gen, with intel hd graphics [11:43] Reventlov: What about removing quiet to see which message it stuck on? [11:43] !bootlog [11:43] To get a more verbose log of the boot process, add the following !kernelparm: debug systemd.log_level=info [11:45] so, without quiet, and with debug systemd.log_level=info: black screen [11:45] (and without secure boot) [11:45] (I boot in UEFI mode) [11:46] are you able to boot to recovery? [11:46] the ubuntu is not installed yet [11:46] how can I boot to recovery [11:47] ah, sorry, i missed that it's not installed, yet [11:47] remove "splash" also, add "nosplash" [11:47] which hardware is this? [11:48] some asus UX331F Notebook [11:48] Reventlov: secure boot block you to boot with an other device, you need to put it off to install [11:48] black screen. [11:48] Ool: secure boot is disabled now. [11:48] same problem. [11:48] (without the message, still) [11:48] to install in EFI mode you need to boot in EFI mode too (not legacy) [11:49] which is what I do. [11:49] this is maybe bug 1829620 [11:49] bug 1829620 in linux-hwe-edge (Ubuntu) "intel-microcode on ASUS makes kernel stuck during loading initramfs on bionic-updates, bionic-security" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1829620 [11:50] Reventlov: which version of ubuntu are you trying to install? [11:50] 18.04, I'll try to update the bios (I currently have version 2.20.1271) [11:51] Reventlov: bios upgrade may help (and is probably a good idea), another workaround is to boot with dis_ucode_ldr [11:53] why is my systemd service not updating? it keeps throwing an error from on old version, i've run daemon-reload and restarted the service, but it's still reading an old versoin [11:55] systemd is the init process, to restart it you'll need to reboot. [11:55] (or kexec) [11:58] it's not really safe to just upgrade systemd within an ubuntu release, though, unless you know exactly what the implications are and are able to handle those. [11:58] thanks [11:58] (other than bug fix / security updates, which won't change the version number systemd reports) [11:59] dis_ucode_ldr made it [11:59] Reventlov: and a bios upgrade did not? [12:01] my 14.04 lts system is screwed. Can't update [12:01] Hey, I have a failed service apt-daily.service. How do I find out what it does and why it still shows failed when I do service apt-daily.service start ? [12:02] !14.04 | grammoboy2 [12:02] grammoboy2: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade [12:02] gramno it is not, just end of life [12:02] grammoboy2 ^ [12:02] MindSpark: which ubuntu version is this? what's the output you get for "service apt-daily.service start"? use a pastebin, please. [12:03] https://pastebin.com/BDajABFV [12:03] !eolupgrade | grammoboy2 follow this guide to upgrade to 16.04 LTS [12:03] grammoboy2 follow this guide to upgrade to 16.04 LTS: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [12:04] https://pastebin.com/BDajABFV [12:05] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [12:05] no need to click that url, we know what is going on [12:05] no you don't [12:05] OerHeks: i think ESM supported releases remain on archive mirrors. and any release which is still on archive mirrors can still be upgraded to using do-release-upgrade. [12:06] oh good to know [12:06] I think I need to be able to upgrade normally first, before a dist upgrade [12:06] tomreyn, 18.04, and service apt-daily.service start doesn't give any output, but systemctl --state=failed still shows apt-daily.service [12:07] grammoboy2: can you show all output (including errors of: apt-get update; apt-get -f install [12:07] tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/BDajABFV [12:07] MindSpark: what's the output of systemctl status apt-daily.service [12:08] (and if other commands are suggested on this output, run those, too) [12:08] grammoboy2: you keep posting the same thing, this is not what i asked for [12:09] tomreyn, that is apt-get -f install isn't? [12:09] grammoboy2: no [12:10] the first line of output at https://pastebin.com/raw/BDajABFV is this: "$ sudo apt-get upgrade" [12:10] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SRNm83G2wF/ [12:11] ...which is a different command than "sudo apt-get -f install" [12:11] tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/qxczi5ki [12:12] MindSpark: it seesm that the system could not get online via systemd-networkd. is your network configuration sound, are your interfaces up and properly configured? [12:12] tomreyn, they should be. That is a server I am sshing into [12:13] grammoboy2, line 62: apport report written because the error message indicates a disk full error [12:13] remove some stuff? [12:13] grammoboy2: /boot/ has run full (you can confirm it using df -h /boot ) [12:13] in fact this looks like all of / ran full, right [12:13] tomreyn, [12:13] df -h /boot [12:13] Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [12:13] /dev/sda1 19G 16G 2,0G 89% / [12:13] !paste | grammoboy2 [12:13] grammoboy2: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:13] tomreyn, yes, or read-only? [12:14] OerHeks: hmm i think "No space left on device" wouldn't have been reported if it was r/o [12:14] it can also be inodes [12:15] df -hi / [12:15] tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/F4HAU8U6 [12:16] so that's why. [12:16] :) [12:22] Howdy all [12:23] grammoboy2: so you probably have a lot of subdirectories or files in a single directory somewhere - try to remove some, or to change the structure. [12:24] tomreyn, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels trying [12:25] this helps with low disk space, not so much with few free inodes, though somewhat, too. [12:27] MindSpark: review the system log then to get a better idea of what went wrong when the system was booting. [12:28] hi guys [12:28] just reinstalled 19.04 [12:28] with separate partitions for /opt /usr /var and all the directories [12:29] MindSpark: also ensure the system is full yupdated, since there were some systemd related bugs in the past which could trigger this situation (which have since been fixed) [12:29] if i install a new version of ubuntu will the applications still be in those partitions and startup ? [12:29] Pr070cal: you know that really isn't necessary [12:30] Pr070cal: the files will be there, but it will probably not function the way you think. That's not the right way to do it [12:30] i want to install and configure things like snort that make / changes [12:30] how should i do it [12:30] someone said bindmount and someone else said install live persistance to hdd from usb [12:31] Pr070cal: can you explain in detail what you're trying to accomplish? [12:31] so i install and configure snort then when i install new version of ubuntu it looks at /etc partition and loads those files instead of the ones at / and snort runs [12:32] and is still there if i wipe / [12:32] it works with persistance on usb it uses files on /persistance instead of / [12:33] Pr070cal: you probably want something like overlayroot. But still, I don't think things are going to work out the way you think. It's really a lot easier and quicker to just keep backups and restore after a new install. [12:34] i think file system / block device snapshotting was also mentioned previously [12:34] anyone use bindmount ? [12:34] tomreyn: even worse [12:35] how about make a persistance partition ? [12:35] leftyfb: no idea, i haven't tried it for this use case. [12:37] overlayroot looks cool [12:38] founs this in casper-rw /etc/fstab [12:38] overlay / overlay rw 0 0 [12:39] just need a capser-rw partiton i think on hdd and / [12:40] then wipe / reinstall and casper-rw has all the changes on root and loads them fisrt [12:41] that would .. wipe casper-rw ? [12:42] tomreyn, thx [12:42] no casper-rw has all your changes in [12:42] it's updating now [12:42] so make a change to /etc in casper partition then it wont use the version in / [12:43] so i upgrade ubuntu in / with fresh install and when it boots i mount casper and it uses files in casper-rw first [12:49] hi [12:49] is this a official ubuntu mirror? http://mirror.zol.co.zw/mariadb/repo/10.3/ubuntu xenial main' [12:52] julius_, no, it is a mariadb mirror, solely for their packages only [12:53] there are other packages on their two, but im not sure if i can trust the mirro [12:53] r [12:53] OerHeks is it listed somewhere on a mariadb page? [12:55] your url changes here to http://mariadb.mirror.liquidtelecom.com/repo/10.3/, a redirect.. you can check it at https://mariadb.com/kb/en/library/mirror-sites-for-mariadb/ [12:58] ah alright, makes it a bit more trustworthy [12:59] how do i make watching 2160p movies run smooth [12:59] tomreyn, next problem seems to bump up, but it's still upgrading at least https://pastebin.com/u4SELVBK [13:00] BoneE: a bit more details please? your ubuntu version? graphics card? [13:00] 19.04 rx vega 64 [13:01] freash install [13:01] BoneE: is your driver loaded? what happens on wich player? [13:01] VLC is the best i can play it on. but still a little bit of screen tearing [13:02] BoneE: check sudo lshw -C video to see if your graphics driver is loaded [13:03] will try when i get home [13:04] anything else i can try [13:04] BoneE: yes, compare with smplayer [13:06] grammoboy2: probably a result of the disk running full. try to do as it says. you should also reboot soon after / ran full. [13:43] authenticate 'disco.tar.gz' against 'disco.tar.gz.gpg' -- I get this when running do-release-upgrade . Any clues? [13:45] CrazyEddy: that is not an error. Do you have an error? What version of ubuntu are you running now? [13:45] 18.10. [13:46] hmm, upgrading to an unsupported release is not a good idea, though. [13:46] The error is: Authenticating the upgrade failed. There may be a problem with the network or with the server. [13:46] Ah, so disco isn't supported yet? [13:48] no longer [13:49] oh wait, i mixed this up. sorry [13:49] !disco [13:49] Ubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) is the 30th release of Ubuntu, supported until January 2020. Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/dingo [13:49] Is cosmic supported? [13:49] !cosmic [13:49] Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) was the 29th release of Ubuntu. Support ended July 18th, 2019. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2019-July/004996.html [13:49] disco (19.04) is supported, cosmic (18.10) is no longer [13:50] Right, so what's going on with do-release upgrade? [13:50] you'Re running an unsupported release. there's no guarantees that upgradign from an unsupported release is possible. [13:51] i.e. you should always upgrade from a release to the next while they'Re both supported. [13:51] !eolupgrade [13:51] End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [13:51] * CrazyEddy sighs [13:53] stick with LTS's and you won't have this issue if you upgrade within 5 years of it's release [13:54] See, I've been running do-release upgrade the whole time and lxd errors have been holding up the process. [13:54] it annoys me that d-r-u doesn't automatically handle needing to switch to old-releases to handle these cases [13:55] CrazyEddy: you have yet to post an lxd error. [13:56] So what can I do about the failed authentication? [13:56] I removed LXD. [13:57] CrazyEddy: you do realize you're upgrading to a version that will EOL in 4 months right? [13:58] Hi, this may be the wrong room, if so please point me in the right direction. In bash or zsh is there a way to tell if you script is running in linux or mac ? [13:59] iffraff: uname [13:59] iffraff: those, that is a binary [13:59] iffraff: maybe ask in #bash [13:59] uname can tell indeed, example https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3466166/how-to-check-if-running-in-cygwin-mac-or-linux [13:59] leftyfb, I do now. That doesn't bother me. I'd like to get back on track. [14:00] leftyfb: thanks, what do you mean it might binary? [14:00] iffraff: uname is a binary. Not a shell function [14:00] CrazyEddy: see the second link ubottu posted for you earlier [14:01] leftyfb: oh, but we know that it will be install in ubuntu and mac? [14:01] iffraff: it will be installed on ubuntu [14:02] will it throw on mac? [14:02] Thanks. [14:02] iffraff: that's not topical in #ubuntu, try the other channels suggested. [14:04] iffraff: sorry, we don't support mac here [14:04] lol [14:04] i know. ok. thanks [14:24] i try add to install tinc to two virtualbox bridge , during testing is okey (sudo tincd -n netname -D -d3) but after start service they could not see each other. how can i find out what's going on ? [14:36] Hey, my sound began acting up, so I rmmod'ed all the snd* stuff. I modprobed snd_hda_intel again, and it works, except I have to launch a mixer to adjust now. Does anyone know what module provides volume key functionality? [14:38] how do I configure ubuntu to load ebtables at boot [14:42] it seems like there are a few options here... although most of the internet knows about iptables specifically.. [14:42] I have an ebtables rule that I'd like run on startup. [14:43] im just here to see someone talk about debian [14:43] and imma leave now [14:43] hays_: ebtables package contains a systemd unit to start it, that controls an old sysvinit /etc/init.d/ebtables script, that in turn is controlled by /etc/default/ebtables [14:45] TJ- thanks. helpful. I see that. where do the rules go though? [14:46] hays_: according to /etc/init.d/ebtables they will be /etc/ebtables/$table [14:46] hays_: look in function save() where it does " /sbin/ebtables -t $table --atomic-file ${EBTABLES_DUMPFILE_STEM}.$table --atomic-save " [14:47] hays_: no, I'm wrong, it'll be /etc/ebtables.$table [14:47] heh ok so I can backdoor that by calling the /etc/init.d script directly [14:48] since systemctl save ebtables isn't a thing [14:48] hays_: or just "sudo systemctl start ebtables" [14:48] hays_: oh I see what you mean, to save your manually added rules initially [14:49] hi [14:50] Is ntpd also used on the client side to keep synced with time servers? Or is ntpd soley a server? [14:50] TJ- ick, the files are binaries [14:50] I wonder if that will work if I am imaging the system [14:51] TJ- thanks for the assistance [14:55] hays_: you might be able to dump the textual versions with something like "ebtables --atomic-file=/etc/ebtables.filter --list " [14:55] TJ- oh yeah there is ebtables-save [14:55] and ebtables-restore [14:56] aha! [14:56] So.. I can run that once and save the tables thru /etc/init.d/ebtables save [14:56] still slightly messy but will work [14:58]