 @aptghetto D43 just landed, Can you check if you still get repeated entries for some shortcuts. Check it in latest daily image. Also can you give me a full list of what shortcuts are getting repeated?
 @HMollerCl @guiverc can you check if you guys are also getting repeated entries? I will also do a check tonight.
[01:43] <guiverc> ack The_LoudSpeaker 
 Thanks!
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[03:59] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker you working on lubuntu tonight?
 Yup!
 I am free tonight.
 Oh shoot! There's dramatics night tonight.
 I am free now. What do you need?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Oh shoot! There's dramatics night tonight.], Fitting
 XD
 XD
 I checked guiverc's comments on D43.
 Looks like lxqt-runner doesn't follow xdg hierarchy?
 Downloading iso rn.
 Aaargh!! Weekends! Steam, etc are allowed on weekends now and internet speeds drop like anything. Frickkin 27KB/sec
 If I live boot previous iso (one from two days ago) and update it before installing, will the changes be there after installation?
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21 … wxl: you said @tsimonq2 should preside here about what to pick. He has smartly avoided that. :)
[04:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
 ggwp
 The advanced-network-manager from menu works nicely as expected but if I right click on nm-tray icon and select edit. it opens the old styled editor in terminal.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [The advanced-network-manager from menu works nicely as expected but if I right c …], ^ @HMollerCl
[05:10] <guiverc> the right click on nm-tray icon reverted to terminal some time back in iso-testing; I noted it in comments, but nowhere else..
 @guiverc you are free now?
[05:23] <guiverc> yep. what ya want?  (I was looking for date of wifi appearing in term (via mention here in #lubuntu-devel; i couldn't get search terms right..)
 You still have the installation on which you tested D43
 That viao ultrabook?
[05:28] <guiverc> the d43 comment was from LIVE, not installed.
[05:28] <guiverc> vaiocrap has lubuntu 19.10 installed; but I used live for testing
 Ctrl+alt+B should work. It is working on mine. It takes some seconds tho. Before starting firefox. Only once it delays. Next time onwards it's fine.
 Can you start live again?
[05:30] <guiverc> :)    found live; it was still in vaoicrap - booting now
 Meta+R works when we just go to session settings and restart runner. It doesn't work if started normally.
 Something with order of starting things I guess.
[05:33] <guiverc> booted live; connected wifi (in case needed), ctrl+alt+B has done nothing..  opened term, dmesg,  ctrl+alt+B again, nothing (no new messages in dmesg)
 Wierd.
 Okay what about meta+R ?
[05:34] <guiverc> tried again; no clues in journalctl either...
[05:34] <guiverc> nothing sorry
 @guiverc [<guiverc> tried again; no clues in journalctl either...], Imma start crying now. 😶
 @guiverc [<guiverc> nothing sorry], Restart runner via session settings.
 And see if it works now?
[05:36] <guiverc> in session settings, stop & started runner..
[05:37] <guiverc> ctrl+alt+B still does nothing sorry, meta+R appears to do nothing (when I press meta i get a change on screen but unrelated i believe)
 Hmm. Let me check something.
[05:39] <guiverc> i also grabbed another usb-keyboard; plugged in, and same results - nothing from ctrl+alt+B nor meta+R
 I am still unable to download the latest iso. So just edited the files myself as in D43 and created a new user and logged into that.
 ctrl-alt-B works there.
[05:43] <guiverc> okay, will give it a go .. will take me some time (i just noticed time, I'll be away 20-25 mins so will start then)
 Okay. I will be here only. Will try to download the iso somehow.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [If I live boot previous iso (one from two days ago) and update it before install …], Any ideas about this?
[06:19] <guiverc> The_LoudSpeaker, the /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/globalkeyshorts.conf file is 218 lines in 'live' daily, the one in d43 is only 59 lines long?
[06:20] <guiverc> sorry - my mistake - I'm reading phab.lubuntu incorrectly... 
[06:20] <guiverc> i'm too old & blind to read the thiny vaio screen :(
[06:26] <guiverc> diff of globalkey.. looks good, now 2nd..  lxqt-runner.conf created (rw-r--r--/644 i hope is okay; owned by root & matches other i checked)
 Hi friends, I need help. I am a beginner and using a 32 bit laptop. I just installed lubuntu in it. Now I can't connect to the WiFi. It worked perfectly for the first time. Now it doesn't.
 @mineonlydeed [Hi friends, I need help. I am a beginner and using a 32 bit laptop. I just insta …], Thanks for using Lubuntu! This is the development channel, could you please join the support channel? We'll be happy to help you there :)
[06:28] <guiverc> @mineonlydeed this is a development channel, I'd suggest #lubuntu for support
 You can find that here: https://telegram.lubuntu.me/support
 @guiverc [<guiverc> @mineonlydeed this is a development channel, I'd suggest #lubuntu for …], Jinx :D
 thanks my friend
[06:30] <guiverc> new user created; logout, switch to 'blah'  ... CTRL+ALT+B works perfectly; firefox opens
[06:32] <guiverc> META+R no response though sorry  (could I have missed something?
 just got the iso. creating a new usb. one sec
 also, as I said, meta+r works when I restart the runner from session settings.
[06:36] <guiverc> yep  ... but i need to be retold as have memory of goldfisomething  ... stop/restart runner & yep META+R works now !
 eureka!
[06:41] <guiverc> do you want me to log something of ^^ in d43 The_LoudSpeaker ??
 in T59
 it's where the task is. D43 is closed.
[06:42] <guiverc> (not for you, for audit type purposes, okay I will.. in t59)
[06:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#2340
 wxl: I booted into a daily iso, which I downloaded 1/2 hour ago. I can't find the runner config file. which I added in D43. the etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/lxqt-runner.conf. Is it that it hasn't synced yet?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [wxl: I booted into a daily iso, which I downloaded 1/2 hour ago. I can't find th …], @guiverc did your live system have that that file by default?
[07:30] <guiverc> The_LoudSpeaker, nope.  I created it  (noted in T59)
 that file should have been there. changes from D43 haven't been loaded into daily iso till now I guess.
[07:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#2341
 @The_LoudSpeaker [The advanced-network-manager from menu works nicely as expected but if I right c …], That's the way we decided it should work with wxl. A qt app shouldn't call a gtk
 @HMollerCl [That's the way we decided it should work with wxl. A qt app shouldn't call a gtk], ohh! noice.
 Do we have Raspberry Pi images?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Do we have Raspberry Pi images?], no
 not current ones anyway
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27
[13:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27
[13:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#2342
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[18:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb9c77ac9aaac: Add Hide Desktop icons] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb9c77ac9aaac
[20:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2343
[21:03] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker here's the cron job that builds all the images https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/ubuntu-cdimage/mainline/view/head:/etc/crontab -- you'll see that lubuntu builds at 1629 UTC which you were off by about 9 hours on. so you were using an old image
[21:09] <wxl> @The_Loudspeaker you can check the manifest file (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/eoan-desktop-amd64.manifest) to see what's on it. in fact, you could do something like `wget --quiet -O - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/eoan-desktop-amd64.manifest | grep lubuntu-default-settings`
[21:12] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker finally you can use `!upkg source-package-name` in duckduckgo to find the current state of a particular package. MOSTLY source-package-name will be the same as binary-package-name but for example xscreensaver builds many binaries. 
[21:13] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker relevant to this if i do my little wget trick but swap current for 20190913, then i get 19.10.6 while the one with the fix is 19.10.7
[21:15] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker also you can always `apt-cache policy binary-package` or `dpkg -l | grep binary-package` to see the version of a particular package
[21:17] <wxl> ^^ that might be good stuff to document on the wiki. 
 zsync is your friend :)
[21:18] <wxl> zsync is your friend if your goal is to make downloading the daily quicker
[21:18] <wxl> however, if the question is "where's my package," no.
[21:20] <wxl> i'll tell you what, though, this shortcuts situation is making me ill
[21:21] <wxl> i'm confident that we will ship an improvement over 19.04.. but i'm not sure it will be the perfect solution
[21:21]  * wxl sighs
[21:21] <wxl> so @tsimonq2 you seem to have time again?
 Yeah
[21:22] <wxl> good to hear!
[21:22] <wxl> @tsimonq2: so i never did get the ocmpton fork or sddm-config-editor in before feature freeze. you think there's any hope of pushing them through?
 NEW source packages are fine
 The compton fork, maybe not
[21:23] <wxl> yeah i don't know. it's like totally refactored
[21:23] <wxl> compton-ng.. it's new now
 Either way, that should probably go through Debiam
 Weren't you going to file an ITS for that?
[21:24] <wxl> yeah
[21:24] <wxl> just been busy and trying to deal with the low hanging fruit first
 Fair enough
[21:25] <wxl> we just hired a new guy at work so things are starting to settle out there
[21:25] <wxl> but that stuff has been on my mind
 My goal is really to refactor a lot of the tsimonq2 mini projects and make them less neglected :)
 Cool cool
[21:26] <wxl> ah so the changes in automirror posed some inspiration, eh? XD
 I'm just sick and tired of being nagged XD
 Like, please someone take on Weblate :)
[21:28] <wxl> oh well there's that
[21:29] <wxl> like i said before, i think someone in global team who's into the idea should just do it. give them server access and call it a day.
[21:29] <wxl> or send @teward001 a lifetime supply of coffee and have him figure it out
 I want to spend my time on new development ideas, project architecture, inter-project relationships, and project management long term. I know how to do basically everything y'all are doing and can do it if everyone steps away, but long term I'm changing my role in the project. For example, the next thing I really want to hand off is 
 I don't see myself leaving the project anytime soon, fwiw
 And some things I don't ever see anyone but me doing. However, the vast majority of things I do, anyone can do them
 As an example, I don't expect anyone to have to touch that hack I had to do in x11 to get the env vars to work. I documented it at one point but I think I might be the only one who has touched x11
 Etc.
 Anyway, I'm looking for a volunteer I can assign to the CI, just as I've "assigned" Dan to Cala :)
 The goal would be to go through it and thoroughly document everything and the decisions I made in crafting it
 They would then be responsible for maintaining it and making decisions about the direction of it long term
[21:35] <wxl> you going to work on developing those development ideas or just create a butt load of tasks for us to have a wiki page for? XD
[21:35] <wxl> you had to change the x11 package for that???
 My plan is to work on them
 Yes I did
[21:36] <wxl> i didn't know that. a link to the change would be good to add in the wiki page.
 Oh jeez, I'll have to dig it up...
 Anyway, if you're interested in focusing on the CI as your primary thing in Lubuntu, let me know. Ideally it'd be someone already active in the project but we can train someone new
[21:37] <wxl> (not it)
 The people I have in mind are apt-ghetto and Raman :)
[21:38] <wxl> @tsimonq2: see your irc pm.
[21:38] <wxl> also, don't you touch apt-ghetto. i need him for bootloader crap. and raman i need for like everything.
 XD
[22:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T75: need new Lenny!] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T75#2344
 Just trying discover of 19.10 con atom with 2gb. Still has problems
 Does porting lubuntu software center of 16.04 to qt seems worthy?
 @tsimonq2 wxl ^