 Libertine update: gThumb is now working way better since the "flatten all windows" quick fix made it to RC channel - for those looking for an alternative gallery app that has a number of useful photo editing functions
[01:14] <ubptgbot> Kenny Pavan was added by: Kenny Pavan
[01:25] <ubptgbot> <Kenny P> Hello There! … Total newb here and I'm excited to try Ubuntu Touch for the first time. I've just picked up a OnePlus One, but I'm having an issue with the install. Anyone around that I can ping with a few questions to help with install? I'm using the latest ubports installer on Ubuntu 18.04 and it appears to be stuck saying "Please reboot
[01:25] <ubptgbot>  to bootloader". The phone appears to be in Bootloader mode with the text "Fastboot Mode" on the screen while connected to computer; however, it's been here stuck for around 30 minutes, and I've tried several times. I've done some duckduckgoing, but couldn't find a straight forward solution for a first timer like myself. Anyone have any suggestions
[01:25] <ubptgbot>  or resources I can follow for next steps?  Thanks in advance!
 Why yes! we have a room dedicated.
[01:26] <ubptgbot> <Kenny P> Wonderful! Sorry if this is the wrong room :-/
 take a minute and go through this: … https://ubports.com/meet-the-community
 No worries. It's not
 and welcome!
[01:30] <ubptgbot> <Kenny P> Thank you for the pointer @wayneoutthere. Sliding over to the UB Welcome & Install group.
 enjoy the slide!
[08:43] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Is file sharing via bluetooth working for anyone here on Nexus 5 ?
 There is an App in the Openstore named ”Bluetooth File Transfer“, but I have newer used this App
 *never
 @mark alexa [Is file sharing via bluetooth working for anyone here on Nexus 5 ?], I've used the app that Julius mentioned and it works fine.
[09:31] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @imraniqbal [I've used the app that Julius mentioned and it works fine.], I'm gonna give it a try. Cheers.
 @mark alexa [I'm gonna give it a try. Cheers.], Be aware that the files get transferred to this folder: … * `/home/phablet/.cache/ubtd.fourloop2002/`
 That's if you're using this app: https://open-store.io/app/ubtd.fourloop2002.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/jWRghE9L.webp
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/m3jGUPze.webp
[10:35] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @imraniqbal [Be aware that the files get transferred to this folder: … * /home/phablet/.cache/ …], Works like a magic !
 @mark alexa [Works like a magic !], Excellent, glad it worked out for you.
[11:19] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @imraniqbal [Excellent, glad it worked out for you.], Will be absolutely awesome when making calls through bluetooth headset will work as well (reliably) asof now it works on and off. As of now you can listen to music only but every progress counts.
 In https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ "selfies rotated by 180°" is no more true
 And random reboots are very rare
 [Edit] And random reboots are very rare (for me at least)
 @Aury88 [<reply to media>], nice sticker! haha
 @Aury88 [<reply to media>], Hm? :3
 @Aury88 [<reply to media>], [Edit] Hm? Man the day teleports can send stickers
 @Aury88 [<reply to media>], [Edit] Hm? :3 what makes creepy is that yumi has no pupils, so uh- man the day teleports can send stickers
[13:42] <ubptgbot> solevizhe was added by: solevizhe
 @Fuseteam [Hm? :3 what makes creepy is that yumi has no pupils, so uh- man the day teleport …], sorry but I find more creepy the version with pupils😂
 @Aury88 [sorry but I find more creepy the version with pupils😂], 😂😂😂
 I was actually searching for an example that showcases what i mean but was side tracked 😂😂😂
[14:59] <ubptgbot> Unriell was added by: Unriell
 (Photo, 1024x670) https://irc.ubports.com/SjK3TQr1.png
 There we go :p
 will the bq x2 ever be compatible?
 Untill someone ports it no
 That someone can even be you my friend
 [Edit] Untill someone ports it, no
 [Edit] That someone can even be you, my friend
 I will take a look and if in case I can no longer carry out the project?
 If you publish what you have someone can always pick it up
 Okay thank you
 [Edit] If you publish what you have; someone, somewhere, can always pick it up
 Its not super hard to get a port started, just takes some patience and problem solving skills
[17:32] <ubptgbot> elagost was added by: elagost
 Hello all. I'd like to buy a device for Ubuntu Touch. I don't currently have any of the supported devices on the promoted page, and since I'm in the US I can't really get a fairphone. Would the Nexus 5 or Oneplus One be a better choice?
 yes. any of the devices you'd need to buy second hand anyway. nexus 5 is better if you want to use external display, as oneplus doesn't have wired display support.
 Thanks. Reading  up on it, looks like the Oneplus has better specs/battery but does that really matter?
 the extra ram can help depending on what you want to do, but the device is also a fair bit larger physically than nexus 5 is
 they both have a few known issues at the moment, so choosing between the two, depends on what you want to do with the device and how you feel about the issues affecting them currently
 or also you could just get both and then you can use one as a phone and other for testing/development stuff :P
 I don't do much - mostly messaging/calls, podcast listening, and USB tethering to laptops for anything heavier.
 Can you change the DNS Server of your wifi connection?
 Not currently, is there issue open for that?
 @LEOLEOSP [Can you change the DNS Server of your wifi connection?], from CLI yes, but there's no static network config UI yet, iirc
 Any place I could check to look at the issues effecting them to compare? I'd only like to get one to start with.
 Okay thanks 👍
 The ubuntu touch repo on github is a good place to start
 @elagost [Any place I could check to look at the issues effecting them to compare? I'd onl …], https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues
 ^^ that one
 @Fuseteam [Not currently, is there issue open for that?], yes, there's an open issue for static config of network
 @LEOLEOSP [Okay thanks 👍], see documentation for `nm-cli` for how to tweak the connection settings from terminal
 @dohbee [https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues], Thanks!
 @dohbee [yes, there's an open issue for static config of network], Cool what's its number :p
 @Fuseteam [Cool what's its number :p], the one that github gives back when you search and find the right one :P
 @dohbee [the one that github gives back when you search and find the right one :P], Github search on mobile is borked :p
 @elagost [Thanks. Reading  up on it, looks like the Oneplus has better specs/battery but d …], The OnePlus One has the definite advantages over the Nexus 5 of a faster cpu, more RAM, and better battery life.  The OnePlus One gives you a larger display, while the Nexus 5 fits easier for single handed use - which one of those is better i
[18:15] <ubptgbot> s a matter of personal preference.  The OnePlus One can send to an external display wirelessly via a Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter, where as the Nexus 5 can send to external display via a Slimport cable.  The OnePlus One has a 13 megapixel camera - but the zoom and flash currently do not work on it for Ubuntu Touch and a fix for this is unlike
[18:15] <ubptgbot> ly to come soon.  The Nexus has an 8 megapixel camera with working flash and zoom - but video playback on it is very buggy on it right now.
 @elagost [Hello all. I'd like to buy a device for Ubuntu Touch. I don't currently have any …], Another option to consider is the Meizu Pro 5 - which offers the best hardware specs of any of the current UT supported devices - but only gets up to 3G/HSPA in the USA (in Europe you are likely to be able to get 4G for it though)
 @TotalSonic [Another option to consider is the Meizu Pro 5 - which offers the best hardware s …], And its hard to get
 @Fuseteam [And its hard to get], there are some for a reasonable price here from a seller that has been verified to have shipped to a couple of UT users - but these require additional work to flash them to UT as they are not official Ubuntu versions.  I have a 4gb RAM / 64gb storage model myself that works great with UT on latest RC re
[18:25] <ubptgbot> lease - it is my daily driver.  … https://www.ebay.com/itm/90-new-Meizu-PRO-5-64GB-support-Ubuntu-4GB-RAM-Unlocked-DualSIM-NFC-FastCharge/273911840744?
 @Fuseteam [And its hard to get], [Edit] there are some for a reasonable price here from a seller that has been verified to have shipped to a couple of UT users - but these require additional work to flash them to UT as they are not official Ubuntu versions and they come with FlyMe Android on them.  I have a 4gb RAM / 64gb storage model
[18:26] <ubptgbot>  myself that works great with UT on latest RC release - it is my daily driver.  … https://www.ebay.com/itm/90-new-Meizu-PRO-5-64GB-support-Ubuntu-4GB-RAM-Unlocked-DualSIM-NFC-FastCharge/273911840744?
 Hmm someone could buy flash and sell those
 and it will likely never be fully supported, because it has some differences from the Ubuntu Edition pro 5, and i think the device/vendor trees were never published?
 @dohbee [and it will likely never be fully supported, because it has some differences fro …], Currently everything works on it with a few extra terminal commands - including front facing "home" button / finger print reader.  GPS has been more reliable with it than I ever got with my OnePlus One as well.  Saying this as someone with dir
[18:32] <ubptgbot> ect experience with both 3gb/32gb Ubuntu edition and the 4gb/64gb FlyMe version.
 modifying the rootfs is hardly as simple as "a few terminal commands"
 @dohbee [modifying the rootfs is hardly as simple as "a few terminal commands"], yet that is all it took me.
 @dohbee [modifying the rootfs is hardly as simple as "a few terminal commands"], [Edit] Yet that is all it took me in order to update the modem and get the fingerprint reader working.  I did purchase my Meizu Pro 5 with UT already flashed on it though
 @TotalSonic [Yet that is all it took me in order to update the modem and get the fingerprint …], but the statement oversimplifies the actions being done by those commands, and implies the support is trivial to include by default, when you know it is not.
 @Fuseteam [Hmm someone could buy flash and sell those], Hmm steven could do it xD
 @dohbee [but the statement oversimplifies the actions being done by those commands, and i …], Dunno - if someone wants to flash it and update it there are currently very good instructions readily available on the UT forum - and again are not hard at all for someone with a modicum of experience with Linux terminals to do.
 fingerprint reader isn't currently supported on either version of pro 5, either
 @dohbee [fingerprint reader isn't currently supported on either version of pro 5, either], yet - it is easy to get working - and works great
 Will it get broken by future versions of UT?  Possibly.  But by that time I expect even more up to date options with better hardware specs to be available for UT./
 @TotalSonic [Dunno - if someone wants to flash it and update it there are currently very good …], yes, there are, and it may be acceptable for them. but the way you stated it implies a level of support which is not there. and when someone buys a device based on this pre-conceived notion of "ease" due to your statements, and have problems,
[18:38] <ubptgbot> it can create annoying scenarios
 @dohbee [yes, there are, and it may be acceptable for them. but the way you stated it imp …], But those scenarios are not currently existing.  But you are very correct that people should be aware that these are currently "community" devices and not "official UBports" ones.
 @TotalSonic [Will it get broken by future versions of UT?  Possibly.  But by that time I expe …], none with working fingerprint readers, and no, they can't be enabled with a few terminal commands
 @dohbee [none with working fingerprint readers, and no, they can't be enabled with a few …], so - IF someone actually wants to run UT with a fingerprint reader unlocking - then they should get a Meizu Pro 5 ;)
 @TotalSonic [so - IF someone actually wants to run UT with a fingerprint reader unlocking - t …], they should not use UT currently, really, if what they want is decent biometric support
 @dohbee [they should not use UT currently, really, if what they want is decent biometric …], Not really - I already have it on my UT daily driver.
 and fwiw, i don't take issue that you did that and it works for you, or your sharing the details of how it was done; only that i think you should take more care in choosing the words when you make such suggesetions, as the words you chose this time implies  a level of simplicity and support that does not exist
 @TotalSonic [Not really - I already have it on my UT daily driver.], that's great for you, but if one is looking to buy a phone based on the requirement that they must have working fingerprint, then my suggestion must be to not use UT. because we cannot guarantee it won't get broken
 you got it working for you now with a little hacking, but it is not currently supported, and the hack that got it working could break in the future
 @dohbee [and fwiw, i don't take issue that you did that and it works for you, or your sha …], yup - anyone that wants to flash from FlyMe and/or update the modem firmware, or get their finger print reader working  - should absolutely make sure they are comfortable following the instructions detailed here - an be aware that there is pot
[18:47] <ubptgbot> ential for bricking their device in attempting these.  https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2755/meizu-pro-5-flyme-os-to-ubuntu-touch-modem-update-fingerprint-function
 Untill it can be upstreamed such that it's no longer neccesary to hack
 Although I will say - if you already have UT installed on your Meizu Pro 5 it is pretty darn easy to update the modem firmaware and get the finger print reader working.
 @Fuseteam [Untill it can be upstreamed such that it's no longer neccesary to hack], you are welcome to try to create an open source solution to get fingerprint working. the proprietary binary blob implementation cannot be "upstreamed" as such
 @TotalSonic [Although I will say - if you already have UT installed on your Meizu Pro 5 it is …], Haha and so the circle starts anew
 @dohbee [you are welcome to try to create an open source solution to get fingerprint work …], Yep but steven is also welcome to try as is anyone else with a meizu pro 5
 I'm already trying to upstream flick :p
 @TotalSonic [Although I will say - if you already have UT installed on your Meizu Pro 5 it is …], well, let me put it this way. to me, writing c++ is easy, but if kept saying it was so, and you kept failing to write c++ yourself, obviously you might feel the community has some issues with how things are presented. this same concept also ap
[18:52] <ubptgbot> plies to modifying the system image
 @Fuseteam [Haha and so the circle starts anew], I've noticed that it seems Rodney and I have different taste and approaches as far as these things goes.  But I am indeed very sympathetic to his position as someone deeply involved in Official UBports support - for which reasonable disclaimers and warnings regarding trying to "color outs
[18:52] <ubptgbot> ide the lines" makes a lot of sense.
 Yep xD
 @Fuseteam [Yep but steven is also welcome to try as is anyone else with a meizu pro 5], i didn't say they weren't free to do so if they wish. i'm simply saying that how "easy" it is, is very subjective, and presenting it as such is problematic
 @dohbee [i didn't say they weren't free to do so if they wish. i'm simply saying that how …], 👍
 I agree with ya both :p
[19:38] <ubptgbot> <Shikhar Khandelwal> https://youtu.be/X3rbWIbASKM
 spam above @dohbee
 👀
 Shikhar this group is about https://ubports.com and https://ubuntu-touch.io not for posting random youtube videos. I've deleted your post because it's off topic. If you post further, they may be reported as spam and result in you being banned from this group and possibly Telegram as well. Thanks.
 Hello, no one is working on anbox for nexus 7?
 Anbox isnt really a priority overall, you can certainly volunteer to work on it
[22:49] <ubptgbot> Zoe Moore was added by: Zoe Moore