[00:04] alexandrdvorkin, so.. why don't you format it in your mac? [00:06] likely virtualbox is good protected to not see usb devices unless you want too, see the manual [00:11] OerHeks, yeah i did not see he was running Ubuntu inside VBox, he has to activate the device from virtualbox so that the guest can see it. [00:17] any american should stop paying their schooldebt, as the education was wrong. [00:23] is there a channel for 19.10 stuff? [00:25] magic_ninja_work, #ubuntu+1 [00:31] akemlenovo, thank you [00:32] Np. [00:32] gotta figure out why bluetooth is all-of-a-sudden using so much power [00:33] How do you know it's using more power then normal? [00:34] I did a comparison when I first installed. I generally take a peek at my battery life regularly. [00:35] I noticed mine was quite a bit less, so I figured up powertop, and it showed me the bluebooth device is using lots of power. 3-6W [00:35] It wasn't like that before. Even unplugged, my ethernet device was also using 3W of power, so I manually turned it off via ip link set down and that usage went away. [00:36] powertop? Ok, i did not know it was possible to monitor that. [00:36] Hello, trying to help test. Downloaded the current daily iso for 19.10, not giving option to install to zfs in installer. Is there something special I have to do. [00:37] akemlenovo, yep, works pretty well. Run it as root. You have to let it run for a while to start collecting data. Sometimes 30 minutes to an hour. [00:39] magic_ninja_work, ok, nice, i'll try it. [00:40] to save ya some time, it has textui tabs that you use the tab or shift-tab to go through and the last page has a list of tunable items, so if you are using tlp or something, make sure to disable that service first. [01:19] How can I set the timeout for deteccting Displayport disconnect ? [01:19] Or the timeout maybe displayport reconnect when waking up the screen ? [01:21] You see I have a monitor that takes a short while to wakeup when the screen(power)saver disengages and so for a second after waking up the system assumes only the computer panel is connected [01:22] After the second everything returns to normal but it is really annoying [01:33] Hello! I am wondering how to switch my keeb layout to chinese in i3wm. The links on how to fix it all seem to be blocked in my region :( === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:35] Galactor: have you already changed layout? [01:37] You can rerun the i3-config-wizard and you'll get all standard hotkeys in the same physical place as intended with qwerty. [01:37] not sure how to do that in i3wm either, since there are no buttons for it. in normal desktop mode, I can change it by clicking on the icons in the dock, but I don't have that in i3wm === ctrlbreak_MAD is now known as ctrlbreak [01:38] you can change your layout with setxkbmap [01:38] what would be in the layout name? how would I set it to do pinyin input chinese? [01:39] But it might screw with your hotkeys, thats why you may want to rerun i3-config-wizard [01:39] can you give me an example of what layout name might be? [01:40] What distro are you using? [01:42] lubuntu [01:42] How to add tab using sed on ubuntu? \t doesn't work with sed -i "/defaultRole/a\t'defaultTheme' => 'smart-style-1'," test.txt [01:43] Galactor: not really i3 related but try dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration. Will set the layout "permanently" whereas setxkbmap is only for the current session. [01:44] right on. I'll try to look more into it. thanks! [01:44] After that you might want to run i3-config-wizard. [01:45] in xenial, how do I list the physical and logical volumes LVM currently knows about? [01:45] okay :) that's a good idea [01:53] found I need the lvm package first. then probably lvs as I'm used to. [01:53] *lvm2 [02:08] Sorry to ask again. I got bumped off earlier but how to add tab using sed on ubuntu? \t doesn't work with sed -i "/defaultRole/a\t'defaultTheme' => 'smart-style-1'," test.txt [02:11] destinydriven: first answer on google say that if it doesnt work try running it from a shell script, if script works then there is a commandline problem. [02:11] \t is supposed to be tab [02:12] Flog, yes I just tried this, still no tab appears after running it [02:12] I'm referring to the shell script [02:12] Then i dont know. [02:12] I can see the tab character in my editor so I'm lost as to why it won't pass on through script execution [02:13] destinydriven: looks fine to me: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/vkRh78fgyD/ [02:14] leftyfb, ok you're not using -i [02:14] Let me try this :) [02:14] destinydriven: that's only if I want to write it out [02:15] destinydriven: but, you really should be asking these questions in #bash since they're not really ubuntu specific [02:16] leftyfb, oh right. It didn't occur to me that there was a bash channel [02:16] Thanks [02:18] In what config file would i set my keyboard layout? can set with the layout I want with setxkbmap se dvorak_a5. Cant find the layout in dpkg-reconfigure keyborad-configuration [02:28] !pm ubuD104 [02:28] !pm | ubuD104 [02:28] ubuD104: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. [02:28] don't want to troll no thank you [02:29] lotus remember about that systemd conversation earlier [02:29] I think I found something out do you know anything about it [02:30] ubuD104: this channel supports only ubuntu issues, dont poll or discuss here please [02:30] ya im in ubuntu [02:30] ill take that as a no [02:33] Like I said before Im new to linux but anyway I got it so it doesn't create a suitable network protocol wondering if i'm really screing this thing up [02:33] stop it ubuD104 [02:34] sorry if I confuse you the only distro I know is ubuntu [02:34] what do you mean stop its a valis question [02:34] valid sorry [02:34] 18.04 [02:35] it says ask a question, i do, then you say stop WTF [02:36] ? [02:36] ubuD104: You're sending messages like a nagging mother. You can surprisingly fit more than 2 words in a message. === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [03:09] hi i am trying to use tar xvzf pakagename.tar but it returns gzip: stdin not in gzip format error [03:11] I am trying to install VirtualBox extension pack because my USB flashdrive is not detecte by Ubunti within VirtualBox [03:15] aleksandrdvorkin, use `file pakagename.tar` to see what format the file is [03:19] aleksandrdvorkin: tar -xvf packagename.tar [03:20] aleksandrdvorkin: it's probably not gzipped (compressed) [03:20] can i use tar xvjf packagename.tar.bz2 === gry_ is now known as gry [03:21] the file ends with .bz2 [03:22] and by the way what i am doing is i am installing the Oracle extensionpack because my USB flashdrive is not detected the Virtualbox is not detecting my USB [03:22] I am running Ubuntu on VirtualBOx [03:24] aleksandrdvorkin: look at "man tar" for help... you will see what options you need to use to open that archive [03:26] thx === gry_ is now known as gry [03:34] i am missing pkg-config and or xml2-config HOW DO I UPDATE ALL THE PACKAGES AT ONCE without haveing to sudo apt install individual packages [03:36] aleksandrdvorkin: no need to shout here [03:36] my apologies [03:37] aleksandrdvorkin: how about you start with sharing a pastebin of your apt output, so volunteers can see whats going on exactly? [03:37] Ok [03:38] i am trying to ./configure the Virtualbox extension pack but it gives me missing package after package [03:38] so this is the package that is currently missing is libxml2 i ll pastebin it [03:39] aleksandrdvorkin: did you install virtualbox from the official repos? or did you add a ppa and trying to compile yourself? [03:39] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MNttJNVxr8/ [03:40] Yes Virtualbox for MacOS [03:41] https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads [03:42] aleksandrdvorkin: we dont support external ppa's, instead we reccomend to install packages from the official repos to keep a clean ubuntu experience [03:42] aleksandrdvorkin: you can search the repos from your system with: apt-cache search packagename [03:43] so then I should of Downloaded from Oracle.com? [03:43] aleksandrdvorkin: did you even read what i just said? [03:44] i tried [03:46] aleksandrdvorkin: the only software that is supported here, is what can be obtained by using "apt install virtualbox" ... any other installation of virtual box is not supported here, as it comes with dependencies that your current Ubuntu installation may not have or support. [03:48] aleksandrdvorkin: That is why you are running into issues with trying to install the virtual box extensions. It is because the requirements for that software cannot be met. Ubuntu strives for stability, which means that the latest versions of software may not be available in the software repositories (security patches and bug fixes are applied) [03:50] aleksandrdvorkin: If you had installed virtual box through the method i just described, it would have come with all the features that are already compatible with your version of Ubuntu. If a feature is missing, it is because it is not supported by Ubuntu. No extra installation of "extensions" or plug-ins will enable functionality that cannot be supported. [03:50] i get that but I had to install it that way because its Ubuntu that is running within the virtualbox not Virtualbox within Ubuntu [03:51] aleksandrdvorkin: Virtual Box extensions are for the host machine, not the Guest OS [03:52] oh so i should exit from the Virtualbox and install the Extensions for Macbook? [03:52] my bad [03:52] does a ; count as a comment out in smb.conf? [03:53] in this case: [03:53] # Maximum number of usershare. 0 (default) means that usershare is disabled. [03:53] ; usershare max shares = 100 [03:54] will the extensions if i still choose to install them help detect all the USB ports because i cannt get acces to my USB flashdrive because USB is not detected by Virtualbox [03:55] aleksandrdvorkin: try #virtualbox [03:55] aleksandrdvorkin: try virtualbox from the ubuntu repos first [03:55] aleksandrdvorkin: unknown, the volunteers here can only help with Ubuntu. For support for Virtual Box you will need to seek out Virtual Box focused forums and/or channels. [03:55] lotuspsychje: virtualbox is not in the ubuntu repos [03:55] kinghat: If "#" is used for other comments, it is best to use the same character when commenting out settings you wish to disable/set to default [03:56] there are both in this smb.conf file [03:56] !info virtualbox [03:56] virtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 5.2.32-dfsg-0~ubuntu18.04.1 (bionic), package size 16828 kB, installed size 77924 kB [03:57] kinghat: then it would appear that a semi-colon is an acceptable means to comment out a setting [03:57] lotuspsychje: I stand corrected :) === CarlFK1 is now known as CarlFK === mkv is now known as m4v === rax-Y is now known as rax- [04:56] Not sure where to go. Installing again, I messed up drivers. What I'm trying to do is use ubuntu 18 on a laptop to run a playstation 1 emulator, pcsxr. THe controller I'm using is a cheap POS wired usb XboX360 clone. My problem is the L2 and R2 are not switches but potentiometers. I've been through rmmod xpad, run xboxdrv, js(something)-gtk. All ive been able to do is nothing. once driver reads it as L2 Z+axis andn R2 Z-axis. [04:56] is that an ubuntu driver controller mapping config thing or......do I go hit up the emulator community? [04:58] I tried some ppa for a different xboxdrv but it just hosed my system and im reinstalling [05:00] frustro: i take it doesn't work as Z+-axis in digital mode? [05:01] for example digital directional pad (hat?) is also X/Y axis [05:01] doesn't make it work bad [05:01] frustro: i have half-way solution, it's... unusual but legit [05:01] anyone here ever backup a logical volume? do you just create another partition of your choice somewhere and use something like Rsync to make a snapshot in time? [05:02] frustro: map PS controller to keyboard buttons, and use qjoypad (it maps joypad axes/buttons system-wide to keyboard buttons) [05:02] PS controller = pcsxr settings [05:02] i think qjoypad is in default repo [05:03] useful for other games, too [05:04] here's the weird part. xboxdrv will read as L2 0-255 and R2 0-255 right? but jsconfig-gtx?? sees and so does pcsxr and pcsx2 and retroarch and l2 and r2 and Z +/- [05:05] I dont know where it's going from l2 r2 on off to z +/- [05:05] but I'll try that qjoypad [05:05] becax the default xpad seem to workbetter than the xboxdrv [05:06] doing fresh net install, all my last commands un undo redo just hosed it. bbiab. thanks for the tip rud0lf [05:36] wip [05:36] sip* [05:36] sup** god [05:39] CowboyDan, greetings are slightly frowned upon with more than 1000 people in channel. [05:39] damn, i wasnt aware that i had posted cringe [05:39] my bad [05:40] It is backward from normal social convention. === CarlFK1 is now known as CarlFK [06:17] qjoypad i found it... [06:27] frustro, I vaguely remember having a playstation controller that had a hardware (mechanical) switch to select between the analog triggers being buttons or another axis. maybe that is the case? [06:28] another 2 axes I mean [06:28] er xbox, not playstation [06:28] https://matricom dot net/product/xyba/ [06:29] did you obfuscate the link to make it not clickable? [06:29] dont know link rules. playes it safe [06:29] https://matricom.net/product/xyba/ [06:30] ew that page forces smooth scroll down your throat in js [06:34] frustro, ah, so the triggers are analog but you want them to be switches? [06:34] yes [06:34] did you look for something to take care of that in the emulator settings? [06:35] if not 0 then 1 or rang trigger havent found in any cinfig app yet. i messed up kernel with rmmod n stuff, reinstalling os. imma gonna try qjoypad [06:35] http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/#documentation [06:36] there's a preset for ePSXe in there so maybe work for pcsxr [06:38] but no, i hadn't found how to change that in the emulator, just mapping and all emulators see it and Z axis ffor l2 r2. === im0nde_ is now known as im0nde [06:42] there's a chance that tons of other people needed that too and it's there [07:13] halp! I'm locked out of my ubuntu desktop! My system is ubuntu 18.04. It uses nvidia drivers. When booting, the system gets stalls on the message "Started Gnome Display Manager" [07:13] I can alt-tab to a tty. I'm logged in as root. [07:15] Im at a loss at this point. I've got no idea how to troubleshoot the issue. [07:26] Does anyone have any idea how I can start debugging the issues? [07:38] hello all [07:38] anyone else have the problem with vlc not displaying correctly in 18.04? [07:55] glitchd: I've had multiple issues with VLC playing the first video file correctly, but then not exiting properly, and therefore preventing the app from opening again until I open the system monitor and force close it. === rax-Y is now known as rax- [07:55] glitchd: Happens on both Ubuntu and Debian, so I just switched to SMPlayer with the MPV backend, works great. [07:56] i found out how to fix it when it was displaying incorrectly, its a qt scaling problem. but since fixing it, i can no longer launch it from the right click menu when trying to play videos [08:09] are there any fuse libraries for mounting google drive - that are already in the main ubuntu repo's? [08:09] i'd have thought possibly there might be - but coming up empty [09:06] bobdobbs: enter system with !nomodeset to install the nvidia drivers afterwards [09:10] hi, i am using an old xubuntu (unable to upgrade) and samba is suddenly unable to see a win10 pc. win10 is working fine and via android i can acess shares on both the win10 pc and the xubuntu [09:11] ed_1: if you talking about an eol version of ubuntu, we cannot support it anymore [09:11] not even sure of the version [09:12] was a lts [09:12] ed_1: lsb_release -a [09:13] Description: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS [09:13] ed_1: yeah, 14.04 is end of life unless you payed for ESM? [09:13] ed_1: a reccomended way would be install xubuntu 16.04 clean on your machine [09:15] damn. reason i cant do that is i lost my log of stuff i set up on it and might not be able to get a lot of stuff running again [09:16] ed_1: maybe you can use your existing /home and install 16.04 over it? [09:17] i am waiting to afford a server to move all yhe important stuff over, then might try clean install. this install is patched and broken for many years now [09:18] ed_1: we strongly advice to update systems before they go EOL [09:19] so no hints as to why samba client broke? [09:20] or at least another channel that might help? [09:20] ed_1: im sorry, volunteers cannot give advice on eol versions, as they are unsupported and could be 'broke' etc [09:20] lol very broke [09:21] ed_1: for security reasons you shouldnt be running it anymore neither [09:21] security? [09:22] ed_1: the people in ##linux might be willing and able to help, we don't support eol releases as a matter of policy [09:22] ed_1: yes, every operating system gets security flaws, that get patched, EOL versions dont get updates anymore and hence a security risk [09:24] ok i will try there thanks. as of security, i dont keep any sensitive data on internet connected machines. just a personal webserver for films and music [09:25] ed_1: ideally you backup your data, and download the 16.04 iso and install that [09:25] ed_1: that's well enough, but people can break in and use it as a base to attack others, send spam etc [09:25] or even better, 18.04 [09:26] if his old machine can handle it [09:27] 15 year old toughbook....doubt it [09:27] true, but if he's getting a new machine it should handle it [09:27] ed_1: 16.04 lubuntu perhaps [09:43] Hello [09:43] welcome Farioko [09:44] I am trying to format my SD card, but whenever I do that, the partitions just reappear? [09:44] Farioko: how are you formatting? [09:45] lotuspsychje: I have tried formatting it using fdisk and gnome-disks [09:45] Farioko: try with gparted perhaps? [09:45] lotuspsychje: I tried that too... [09:45] Farioko: no dice? [09:46] It just finishes successfully it says, but then the partitions just appear again and they are mountable too. [09:47] Farioko: can you pastebin what happens when you: journalctl -f then do your formatting [09:50] lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CK3PGCtvRZ/ [09:52] Farioko: nothing too usefull there [09:56] Farioko: how about in dmesg? [09:56] lotuspsychje: When I write files to the filesystem, they are also gone after unmounting. [10:03] lotuspsychje: Nothing special there as far as I can tell. [10:10] lotuspsychje: :( [10:10] Farioko: can you share your dmesg plz? [10:11] lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YCCf5GQYPz/ [10:12] Farioko: try gparted launched from a terminal, see if you can catch errors there [10:16] lotuspsychje: no errors [10:21] lotuspsychje: I can still boot from it hehe. Let's see if I can write some files to it while Raspberry Pi is running. [10:23] lotuspsychje: same issue. [10:24] lotuspsychje: So can we conclude that it is broken? [10:25] Farioko: well broken sd's should give some errors [10:28] Farioko: did you try other filesystems? fat? fat32? etc [10:29] lotuspsychje: Tried deleting the partitions, writing a whole new partition table to it, formatting the partitions etc. It just goes back to its original state. [10:30] Farioko: and you can still read the data on it too? [10:30] lotuspsychje: Yes [10:30] weird [10:32] Farioko: what about deleting all the data on it? [10:32] lotuspsychje: Deleting files doesn't do anything. [10:33] Farioko: no errors after delete in journalctl -f ? [10:33] lotuspsychje: It seems to be gone, but after remounting, it's all there again. [10:33] Nope [10:34] Farioko: drag a file to it also fails? [10:35] or copy from [10:35] No, nothing fails, they just get deleted after remounting. [10:35] hmm [10:36] I wrote an image to it using dd, but files are still there [10:36] Farioko: you got other machines to test try? [10:36] I tried it on two machines [10:36] phone or camera [10:37] might be dead then jim [10:37] but pretty weird you aint getting errors [10:37] Farioko: maybe as final test, you can try a datarecovery from it, see if you getting errors there [10:38] Farioko: with photorec (testdisk) [10:44] toy story eta 18min [10:44] what? [10:46] Farioko: sudo apt install testdisk and sudo photorec after [11:08] Hey all [11:39] I have a few external old harddrives that I am looking to use for various things. How can I (really) check if they are OK? [11:42] Aavar: smart test? [11:44] EriC^^: I cant test smart as these are usb-drives. Unfortunately. [11:45] Aavar: do you mean USB Flash storage or hard disk drives (spinning metal) on a USB connection? [11:46] TJ-: usb haddisks [11:46] not flash [11:47] I don't plan to use them for important data, but it would be great to have some sens of what to trow away and what to keep. [11:47] Aavar: the disks are using a native USB interface, or have a USB<>{P,S}ATA bridge chip ? [11:48] TJ-: I dont know. This perticular one is a sata drive in an enclosure. [11:50] Aavar: so USB<>SATA bridge chip, so look at "man smartctl" and the "--device" section and see if there is a --device option that matches the USB interface chip. You can identify the USB interface manufacturer with "lsusb" [11:50] My ubuntu keeps crashing [11:50] How do I even go about diagnosing why? [11:50] Aavar: if you're in luck there will be a --device XXXX option that knows how to get the USB bridge chip to pass through the SMART commands [11:51] onomatopie: in what way does it 'crash' ? only when a user is logged in? Before any user logs in? Only for one particular user? Only when a paticular program is being used? [11:52] TJ-: It's just lappy. Just mine. I only use Firefox, chrome, terminal really.. [11:53] TJ-: So no particular pattern though I almost always have some sort of video/stream on [11:53] Happens with and without power plugged in, peripherals etc [11:53] |I have also reinstalled ubuntu after formatting. Same issue [11:54] onomatopie: 'video stream' ? so network streaming AND GPU could be suspects. Does the entire PC die or just the application doing the streaming? [11:54] The entire PC[3~ [11:55] onomatopie: so possibly thermal related, have you monitored temperatures ? [11:55] Ok.. Let me installed a temperature gague for the taskbar [11:56] Any particular gnome extension/app I can use that will display there? [11:56] onomatopie: when a PC just hangs (CPU stops) then the log files don't get written with clues... however, there may be clues leading up to that point so it is worth checking a log from a boot when it hung [11:56] TJ-: so, it looks like smartctl acrually can read the smart status of the drive (with no flags), but I am not sure what to read from it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vcWm9QvQq5/ [11:56] onomatopie: e.g. if the PC hung up on the last boot, you can check the log from that boot with "journalctl -b -1" [11:56] TJ-: It looks to me like the drive is broken? [11:57] https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1460/vitals/ [11:57] How is this one? [11:57] TJ-: Ok.. Let me log that. But is that only if it happens during a bootup? [11:59] Aavar: looks like it has been logging internal errors BUT notice that in the table only one value has exceeded (gone under) the Threshold "Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 061 037 040" ... so if you're lucky the errors are all due to the drive being allowed to get too hoty [12:00] onomatopie: no, the log is for an entire session from boot to when it hangs (but will not include the hang itself unless you're extremely lucky). [12:00] hmmmm is 76 degrees celcious high? [12:01] onomatopie: the "-b -1" means the last boot , 2 would mean 2 boots ago, and so on, 0 is this boot [12:01] onomatopie: its' on the hot side yes, for a CPU. What system/CPU is it? [12:02] onomatopie: if its a laptop then CPU/GPU often share the same heatsink/cooling, and if the GPU is doing the video decoding wewould expect it to get hot... so right now I'd say you're on the right track to identify the cause as overheating [12:03] TJ-: so, I might be ok? Is it a good idea to fill the drive with garbage and see if it gives me any errors? [12:03] TJ-: hmmm....ok let me see if I can cool it [12:04] Here we go.. It's at 81 now [12:05] Aavar: First I'd ensure the drive is currently running cool even if that means opening up the chassis it is in and blowing a fan across it. I'd also want to find a tool to reliably read its current temperature so you can monitor it.. Then I'd do a ATA Secure Erase of the device and then do a test of writing zeros to the entire drive and ensuring no errors reported to kernel [12:05] onomatopie: what make/model is this? "journalctl -k | grep DMI:" [12:05] AMD ryzen 5 2500u [12:05] https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/model/NX.GV7EK.008 This lappy [12:05] TJ-: how can i easyly write zeros to the drive? [12:06] TJ-: I guess this would work https://how-to.fandom.com/wiki/How_to_wipe_a_hard_drive_clean_in_Linux ... [12:06] onomatopie: I'm wondering if you need some ACPI OSI magic setting to help power management here, see my article https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [12:07] Aavar: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdZ bs=500M status=progress conv=fdatasync,fsync" [12:08] TJ-: Ok.. Here goes a reboot :-) [12:10] Ok rebooted just fine [12:10] Let's see how it goes over a few days I suppose. Thanks :) [12:11] TJ-: I'll try that. I don't think the drive is hot, but I can imagine that it has been in the past. It was used in a quite cramped place before. Would I get errors in the syslog if anything goes wrong? [12:13] Aavar: according to the man-page, "smartctl --log=scttempsts ..." should report current temperature if the drive supports ACS [12:14] TJ-: I got this message in syslog while running: Sep 15 14:09:37 aavar-linux systemd-udevd[22343]: Process 'ata_id --export /dev/sdc' failed with exit code 2. [12:14] Morning. 18.04, installed via thumb drive. DHCP not working, manual IP provides connection to router. But firefox, ping, etc fail. entering DNS manual does not help. Hints? [12:15] Aavar: presumably because of the USB bridge that ata_id is not equipped to cope with [12:15] TJ-: It's only running at 44C at the moment, so i'm not conserned about that. [12:15] Coraxyn: how does ping fail? [12:15] the heat that is. [12:16] TJ, ping network is unreachable [12:16] Aavar: right, but if you are going to do a sustained write to it (those zeros) that might be how to monitor it in real time [12:16] Or maybe host [12:16] TJ-: Yes :) [12:16] Coraxyn: right, but what host are you trying to reach? pressumably if you've set up the network manually you have't added a default route to the gateway ? [12:17] TJ-: I can se that smartctl with that option shows max heat since startup, so I can run the command again after the write finishes (if it does) [12:17] TJ, correct [12:17] Coraxyn: as in "sudo ip route add default via dev " [12:17] TJ, why does DHCP not work? [12:17] Coraxyn: is it desktop or server? if desktop, then NetworkManager should have a connection defined for it [12:18] Desktop [12:18] Coraxyn: so check the log with "journalctl -u NetworkManager.service" [12:18] TJ, will reboot to Ubuntu and come in here via iPad [12:19] Laters [12:19] TJ-: Thank you for great help so far. I'm going for a nap, and I'll report back :) [12:41] hello. why latest alsa version on ubuntu LTS is 1.0.25, while 1.1.9 is already available? [12:42] Back [12:43] Command again please [12:44] actually 19.04 also has 1.0.25 instead of updated packes. what gives? [12:45] TJ-: It did crash :( I've left it to cool down for 15 mins though so let's see. [12:45] TJ- [12:46] 18.04 installed via thumb, dhcp not working. Hints? [12:47] alekksander: why do you need latest version? [12:48] Coraxyn: so check the log with "journalctl -u NetworkManager.service" [12:48] Exagone313: i don't i'm just surprised to see it's so outdated despite still being actively developed [12:49] alekksander: This is the same for all sw in all distributions. Someone has to package and preferably test new software, too. [12:50] TJ- activation succesful, device. Activated [12:51] But firefox never connects [12:51] alekksander: ubuntu is not a rolling release distro, it's even more clear if you use LTS, it is made to be stable. I don't know what's the best link that explains it, but this could be a start https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [12:52] TJ- ping 1.1.1.1 destination host unreachable [12:53] Coraxyn: (ip a; ip r) | curl -F 'clbin=<-' https://clbin.com [12:54] this gives us information about your actual network config [12:55] Exagone313: i can tell the difference, but as mentioned for 19 it's the same early 2012 version of alsa-base [12:55] Curl not found [12:55] ... [12:57] then (ip a; ip r) | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:57] alekksander: check other package versions on https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=alsa [12:59] like alsa-utils [12:59] Name or service not known [13:00] Coraxyn: then https://paste.ubuntu.com/ [13:00] post the result of this: ip a; ip r [13:01] Umm. It is long and have to type it in from this pad [13:02] select, right click > copy [13:02] Coraxyn: is the connection over Wifi ? [13:02] Yes [13:02] Router is on another floor [13:03] oh right [13:03] I'm stupid [13:03] Coraxyn: start a terminal, do "journalctl -u NetworkManager.service" then press G to goto End of the log, then we'll work backwards and I'll talk you through what to expect and you can spot deviations and report them to us [13:03] copy the output on usb key haha [13:03] Will not help Exagone313 . Ipad [13:04] TJ-: k [13:04] "journalctl -e -u NetworkManager" goes to end directly [13:05] that moment on sunday where you try to help someone debugging its internet connection and ask them to send output of commands via internet [13:05] Coraxyn: i need to fetch a device with NM installed on [13:05] Coraxyn: do you know the IP address of the local gateway router ? [13:06] Router in house, 192.168.0.1 [13:06] Coraxyn: do this: "sudo ip route add default via 192.168.0.1" [13:06] Coraxyn: then try "ping 1.1.1.1" [13:08] Unreachable [13:08] Coraxyn: I'm beginning to think the problem is the wifi device. [13:08] Works for this pad, ans os x [13:08] Coraxyn: I mean the wifi device in the PC [13:09] Os x [13:09] Same machine [13:09] Dual boot [13:09] Hi everyone. I have customized an initrd script provided by the open-iscsi package. Even though that package is not updated often, I would hate an upgrade to overwrite it and have me reapply my customizations. Do I need to locally fork open-iscsi from source packages and build custom package versions, or is there an easier way? [13:09] Coraxyn: what is the make/model ? lets first check there are no known issues with the hardware [13:10] Early 2008 [13:10] Coraxyn: "journalctl -k | grep DMI:" [13:10] we have some wiki pages for Mac, let me see where they are [13:10] !mac [13:10] For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [13:12] Apple Inc. iMac 8,1/Mac-F226BEC8, bios. Im81.88z. Etc. [13:12] And 02/09/08 [13:14] Coraxyn: so that leads us to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac [13:14] Coraxyn: and first in the list of "Fix Non-Functioning Hardware" is "WiFi / Airport" [13:15] Thanks [13:16] Coraxyn: info there looks extremely old but it does indicate the wifi chipset is Broadcom, which Linux always has large problems with. We do have several open-source packages to support various versions of Broadcom though so we need to ID which exact device the iMac has [13:17] Coraxyn: do "lspci -nnk -d ::0280" [13:20] Back on OS X [13:31] How do I see the network status ? (in GUI) [13:46] . [13:47] K, have tar of proper driver. Tried to follow instructions but do not have m-a. Hints? [13:50] . [14:00] . [14:01]