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[07:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:40] <nano> If I already have an EFI installation that created Windows when installing, should I do another different EFI installation to install Kubuntu?
[07:52] <nano> The EFI partition that created Windows 10 has 260 Mb and I think it is 100% occupied
[07:53] <nano> Si ya tengo una instalación EFI que creó Windows durante la instalación, ¿debería hacer otra instalación EFI diferente para instalar Kubuntu?
[08:11] <nano> If I already have an EFI installation that created Windows when installing, should I do another different EFI installation to install Kubuntu?
[08:31] <lordievader> My /boot (efi partition) was also created by windows (IIRC), its 256M, which is more than enough for me. Still has 166M free.
[08:31] <lordievader> The laptop runs Gentoo and Windows 10.
[10:30] <nano> Hi
[10:30] <nano> Hi
[10:30] <nano> If I already have an EFI installation that created Windows when installing, should I do another different EFI installation to install Kubuntu?
[10:42] <lordievader> nano: My /boot (efi partition) was also created by windows (IIRC), its 256M, which is more than enough for me. Still has 166M free.
[10:42] <lordievader> The laptop runs Gentoo and Windows 10.
[10:45] <nano> Thank you lordievader for your response, if I install the Grub on the EFI created by Windows, won't it damage that EFI? ...
[10:47] <lordievader> It shouldn't . Grub, unlike the Windows bootloaded, acknowledges other operating systems.
[10:54] <nano> 329/5000
[10:54] <nano> My EFI partition made by the installation of Windows is 260 Mb, the Windows disk manager tells me that I have 100% available, it is something I do not understand if there is the EFI information.
[10:54] <nano> I have read somethMy EFI partition made by the installation of Windows is 260 Mb, the WiMy EFI partition made by the installation of Windows is 260 Mb
[10:55] <nano> the Windows disk manager tells me that I have 100% available, it is something I do not understand if there is the EFI information.
[10:56] <nano> I have read something considerable about this on the web but I don't have a clear answer. I just don't want to ruin the Windows installation
[10:58] <lordievader> Have you made a backup?
[10:58] <nano> Nop
[10:59] <nano> I already had Kubuntu installed on the same machine, but I didn't have Windows installed, install windows and all this came
[10:59] <nano> I had no problem with EFI before installing windows
[11:01] <nano> And my only doubt is where I install Grub, I think it must be in the EFI partition that I create Windows but I'm not quite sure
[11:01] <lordievader> "All this came" what are you referring to?
[11:02] <lordievader> In any case make a backup before messing with these kind of things.
[11:03] <lordievader> After that I'd boot up a live cd/usb and reinstall grub from there.
[11:03] <nano> What I was doing was installing the GRUB where the Kubuntu installer indicated it to me, in nvme0n1, when Windows was installed I did the same, but GRUB did not appear, I entered Windows directly
[11:04] <nano> The EFI partition is in nvme0np1
[11:05] <nano> The first partition
[11:06] <lordievader> Windows installs its own bootloader, which doesn't show other OSes.
[11:06] <lordievader> Which is why you typically want to install Windows first, Linux (etc) second.
[11:07] <nano> And the Kubuntu manual installer applies the default GRUB installation in nvme0n1
[11:09] <nano> Sorry to repeat the question again. Should I install GRUB on the EFU partition made by Wundows ?. If I do not ruin the Windows startup ?
[11:10] <nano> I have seen turorials where they create an EFI partition for Linux but I have read that there should only be a single EFI partition on the system and not two
[11:11] <lordievader> Yes. There should be only one EFI partition, it is shared among OS-es. If 260M is not enough for you (highly doubt it) you could resize it.
[11:17] <nano> The truth is I have no idea how much is enough for EFI, I have seen that some of them restart from 200 Mb to 1 Gb. I do not know what size the information stored in Windows EFI is
[11:17] <nano> I am afraid that when installing there the grub overwrites data and I wrecked the Windows EFI boot, what I'm tired of starting from scratch to operating systems is a lot of work
[11:18] <lordievader> How much are you using now?
[11:22] <nano> The EFI partition is 260 GB and tells me that it has 100% available space, and I don't understand that
[11:22] <nano> if there is 100% available space, where is the EFI information? If there is EFI information there I should indicate 90%. 80%, 60% of available space but not 100% of available space
[11:23] <lordievader> 260 GB? GB?
[11:23] <nano> Sorry 260 Mb
[11:23] <lordievader> Are you in a linux environment right now? Could you pastebin the output of `df -h`?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:23] <nano> Nop Im on windows
[11:23] <lordievader> Afternoon BluesKaj
[11:24] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader
[11:24] <lordievader> nano: In that case a screenshot of the disk usage (under, what is it, right click -> properties)
[11:27] <nano> The EFI partition in Windows Disk management does not allow me to execute any option with right click
[11:27] <nano> not even properties
[11:30] <lordievader> Do you have an option of booting a live-usb?
[11:31] <nano> Yep
[11:31] <lordievader> (Stupid Windows, esp is fat32 anyways)
[17:06] <paul2495> hi guys new to kubuntu obviously i need a little help i have downloaded the following from oracle website tar:/home/paul/Downloads/jdk-7u79-linux-i586.tar.gz how ever i am not sure how to install it i have extracted it to a folder on my desktop called JDK. i have had a look on google but i am still none the wiser any one give me a hand please
[17:09] <OerHeks> openjdk/oracle jdk version 7 is dead, only 8 and 11 are current supported ( openjdk)
[17:09] <OerHeks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk
[17:11] <paul2495> oerheks i start uni and the software they are using they have said to download the version i have put up thats the only reason i am asking for help
[19:01] <jpjacobs> Hi! I've got a funny problem: after upgrading from 18.10 to 19.04, the KDE login screen freezes, unless, just after grub, I press F12, to show the text logs scrolling by, after which a normal login works
[19:02] <jpjacobs> Anybody an idea how to resolve this? (I've got a intel/nvidia hybrid gpu, previously set up with bumblebee etc)
[20:27] <jubo2> A fresh Kubuntu started asking for a password for kdewallet, without me ever setting it or doing anything (afaik) to alter the system so that it would ask for a password
[21:18] <keithzg> Huh, didn't actually notice until now that 19.04 doesn't actually detect any audio device here for my computer at work. That's . . . unfortunate.