[04:32] <mup> PR snapcraft#2719 opened: Update README - Snapcraft breaks on intention <Created by cevap> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2719>
[06:14] <mup> PR snapcraft#2717 closed: build providers: inject core18 instead of core <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2717>
[07:43] <diddledan> Chipaca: that person you silenced yesterday has been emailing wildly in addition to their multiple pull requests and forum shenanigans
[07:44] <Chipaca> yes
[07:44] <Chipaca> my forum is lit up like a christmas tree
[07:44] <Chipaca> and my email was flooded
[07:44] <Chipaca> i am a lier and a crazy person and also john lennon
[07:44] <Chipaca> also i didn't get much sleep
[07:44] <diddledan> john lennon! omg sing us a song!
[07:44] <Chipaca> also how do I delete a _person_
[07:45] <Chipaca> not a user, the actual physical person
[07:45] <diddledan> I believe deleting people is frowned upon. something about murder is bad nonsense
[07:46] <diddledan> randomly they emailed kyrofa, in addition to me
[07:46] <diddledan> methinks "don't engage" is the course of action now
[07:48] <Chipaca> oh also i'm ignorant
[07:49] <diddledan> must be so fun being popular *hug*
[07:49] <roadmr> Chipaca: let me know if I can do anything to help with the troll
[07:53] <Chipaca> roadmr: tbh right now I feel like deleting them from the forum will just make things work for people's emails and githubses
[07:54] <Chipaca> roadmr: s/things work/things worse/
[07:54] <Chipaca> did i mention very little sleep
[07:55] <roadmr> Chipaca: you did - sorry (zzz). I agree with you though, maybe just let him get bored and move on
[07:56] <Chipaca> i need an app, like the fasting app where you see a countdown to help with holding off the LART
[08:02] <roadmr> 🕥
[08:03] <diddledan> your clock is wrong :-p
[08:03] <roadmr> 😞
[08:03] <roadmr> 🕓  is only 3 minutes off for EDT 😄
[08:03] <diddledan> it's 09:00 here, your clock emoji says it'ss 10:30 *whistles nonchalantly*
[08:04] <diddledan> haha
[08:04] <diddledan> 🕘
[08:05] <roadmr> hehe
[08:12] <Saviq> zyga: depends on platform and driver - retain, suspend/resume, stop/start (in preference order)
[08:16] <Saviq> zyga: or rather, that would be our preference (but we currently don't know whether we're being refreshed or shut down, so we suspend/resume or stop/start where suspend not possible)
[08:20] <Chipaca> Saviq: zyga says: thank you for contacting us, your call is very important
[08:20] <Saviq> ;D
[08:20] <Chipaca> Saviq: he actually says a lot of stuff but he talks too fast
[08:26] <Chipaca> zyga: run this from a user service, on a timer: losetup | awk '/\(deleted\)$/{print $6}' | xargs -r xmessage -buttons ok,cancel -center
[08:26]  * Chipaca brb
[08:56] <Chipaca> sigh. every time i refresh the forum there's a bunch more flags by wotstheirname
[09:10] <pstolowski> cachio: https://api.travis-ci.org/v3/job/584584884/log.txt
[09:20] <roadmr> jdstrand: hey I just rolled out the latest review-tools update that was queued :)
[09:21] <mup> PR snapcraft#2719 closed: Update README - Snapcraft breaks on intention <Created by cevap> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2719>
[09:28] <dot-tobias> zyga: Short hint for https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snap-does-not-start-after-reboot/5750/8?u=tobias very appreciated if you have the time 😊
[09:30] <mup> PR snapcraft#2720 opened: remote build: switch from core to core18 <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2720>
[09:30] <zyga> dot-tobias: try sudo /usr/lib/snapd/snap-discard-ns wpe-webkit-mir-kiosk
[09:30] <zyga> dot-tobias: and restart the service
[09:30] <zyga> dot-tobias: please share the details of the snap (I only really care about the snap.yaml for this class of bugs)
[09:31] <zyga> dot-tobias: ideally please report the bug with details on how to reproduce with a small snap that has no real code but the same layout/mount properties
[09:32] <dot-tobias> zyga: Thank you! I'll pass that to affected users. Can't test myself right now as disabling/reboot/enabling the snap has fixed the issue as well (I presume this does something similar under the hood 😉 ) Will post snap.yaml in the thread.
[09:33] <zyga> yes it does
[09:33] <zyga> that's useful, thank you
[10:04] <mup> PR snapd#7472 closed: README: Add Snap Store badge to README.md <Created by flexiondotorg> <Merged by zyga> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7472>
[10:09] <dot-tobias> zyga: Re: minimal reproduction snap for the mount issue – should I copy over app-specific environment variables / slots / plugs or are those completely irrelevant for layouts?
[10:09] <mup> PR snapcraft#2721 opened: Update README - remove obsolete unreliable links for support <Created by cevap> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2721>
[10:10] <roadmr> ^^ he's at it again :)
[10:18] <mup> PR snapcraft#2722 opened: meta: fixes for desktop file handling <Created by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2722>
[11:42] <zyga> dot-tobias: slots are iirelevant
[11:42] <zyga> dot-tobias: except for those that bring mount changes, like fonts or desktop
[11:42] <zyga> dot-tobias: but you can try to remove one by one
[11:43] <zyga> dot-tobias: until the file /var/lib/snapd/mount/*.fstab starts chanigng
[11:43] <zyga> dot-tobias: you should be able to remove the vast majority of the interfaces this way
[11:43] <zyga> dot-tobias: leave out the layout, I will see if it can be reduced more than that
[11:51] <mup> PR snapd#7451 closed: sandbox/cgroup: introduce cgroup wrappers package <Created by bboozzoo> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7451>
[11:55] <jamesh> zyga: could you restart the failed part of https://travis-ci.org/snapcore/snapd/builds/585992030 ?  The failure doesn't look related to my changes
[12:11] <mup> PR snapd#7473 opened: sanity: sanity check cgroup probing <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7473>
[12:13] <zyga> jamesh: sure
[12:21] <mup> PR snapd#7005 closed: debug: state-inspect debugging utility <Created by stolowski> <Merged by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7005>
[12:56] <mup> PR snapd#6767 closed: wrappers: allow snaps to install icon theme icons <Created by jhenstridge> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6767>
[13:30] <zyga> jdstrand: https://cfp.all-systems-go.io/media/homed-asg2019.pdf
[13:33] <mup> PR snapd#7474 opened: release: 2.42~pre1 <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7474>
[14:05] <mup> PR snapd#7475 opened: sandbox/cgroup, usersession/userd: move cgroup related helper to a dedicated package <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7475>
[14:55] <mup> PR snapd#7476 opened: usersession/userd: make sure to export DBus interfaces before requesting a name <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7476>
[16:02] <mup> PR snapd#7477 opened: packaging: use snapfuse_ll to speed up snapfuse performance <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/7477>
[16:57] <mup> PR snapcraft#2716 closed: tests: completely mock subversion tests <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2716>
[16:57] <mup> PR snapcraft#2720 closed: remote build: switch from core to core18 <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2720>
[17:09] <mup> PR snapcraft#2721 closed: Update README - remove obsolete unreliable links for support <Created by cevap> <Closed by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2721>
[17:12] <mup> PR snapcraft#2723 opened: Update README - Warning about shady snapcraft forum <Created by cevap> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2723>
[22:19] <mup> PR snapcraft#2723 closed: Update README - Warning about shady snapcraft forum <Created by cevap> <Closed by cjp256> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2723>