wxlis that place by the jeans store still there? is the jeans store still there? 00:00
wxloops wrong channel jeez that's a real winner00:00
lubot<kc2bez> :)00:01
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> yeah maybe :/], lxqt-zglobalkeys00:04
wxl@HMollerCl maybe we could fly under the radar with lxqt_globalkeys XD00:07
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> also, @tsimonq2 you want me to remove that unnecessary travis …], Please do00:07
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl maybe we could fly under the radar with lxqt_globalkeys XD], Good one!00:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [Please do], Already did. Check D45. Also, suggest testing methods.03:12
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [Good one!], Am I the only one who didn't get that joke? -\o/-03:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Starting them in reverse order seems better than changing names. But easier hack is a startup script. We only need it to happen once. After that, it creates the local version of config and works thereafter.03:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Btw, I had cloned rARTWORK via git and not ssh. … I got it why it didn't give me write permissions earlier. I had to set a vcs password.03:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I no longer have to switch to mobile data now to clone from phab.03:58
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, any idea how do I supress a warning generated by my prerm file?04:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Something about not removing the folder boot/grub/ coz it's not empty.04:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd1a965d5de09: Move Version below Usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd1a965d5de0905:13
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL397802151122: Move Usage below version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL39780215112205:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3a3c834c6001: Move version below Screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3a3c834c600105:52
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL17f68a3582b8: Move Version below usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL17f68a3582b805:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3b822373b097: Move version below Usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3b822373b09705:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbf3021e8d9ae: Move Version below Usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbf3021e8d9ae05:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/ … The logo on this page needs to be updated.07:06
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7807ebbd987d: Fix formatting] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7807ebbd987d16:59
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALeb3d414079b2: Reorder up and down arrows in widgets] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALeb3d414079b217:25
wxl@THe_LoudSpeaker if you can figure out ANY other solution than http, it would be appreciated. from the docs "Your VCS password must be a different password than your main Phabricator password because VCS passwords are very easy to accidentally disclose. They are often stored in plaintext in world-readable files, observable in ps output, and present in command output and logs. "17:31
The_LoudSpeakeryup! my vcs password is different from my phab password17:32
The_LoudSpeakerplus I have 2 factor auth for phab.17:32
wxli know, but what i'm saying is they're kind of exposed17:32
The_LoudSpeakerohh. if they are exposed then I will use ssh only.17:33
wxlcan you use 22, i.e. the normal ssh?17:33
The_LoudSpeakerbut phab has 222217:33
The_LoudSpeaker@teward's fault17:33
The_LoudSpeakerteward: why doesn't phab follow standard port?17:34
wxl@teward001 see "SSHD Port Assignment" here https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/diffusion_hosting/ and let's see if we can't figure out some solution that could use 22. the port swap seems pretty simple. load balancer would be more difficult but would be easy, too. perhaps we could alternately use a firewall to do port forwarding?17:34
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 see "SSHD Port Assignment" here https://secure.phabricator.com/ …], the problem is the host needs to use port 2217:34
wxlit's not his fault.. it's simon's fault for not looking at alternatives, but it's the standard setup17:34
lubot<teward001> wxl no the issue is twofold:17:34
lubot<teward001> (1) One IP address17:34
wxl@teward001 you're telling me something i know. read the doc.17:34
lubot<teward001> (2) Host also needs to be SSH reachable17:35
lubot<teward001> @wxl Simon explicitly asked to keep the 222217:35
lubot<teward001> this was before Lubuntu Council was formed17:35
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wxlwell i'm gonna call b.s. on that because it's entirely unnecessary17:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 [(2) Host also needs to be SSH reachable], for this change your firewall settings na. allow inbound ssh on 2217:35
wxlthere's no reason we HAVE to have the admin sshd be 2217:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> yup! no worries. It's okay for me.17:36
wxland actually we could leave it the way it is and just do forwarding17:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I just have to use it while cloning, arc diff works well.17:36
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> there's no reason we HAVE to have the admin sshd be 22], well i quite like dropping right to it when I SSH to it, but what would you propose we use for the admin SSH port then?17:36
lubot<teward001> also FYI, the 'port' is already forwarded via LXD17:36
wxl@teward001 uhhh 222217:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [I just have to use it while cloning, arc diff works well.], Thank sophos for that.17:36
wxl@teward001 or for that matter 23789612783617826317:36
lubot<teward001> this'll take time though17:37
lubot<teward001> and i can't do that while at work17:37
wxlthe number of potential users for using phab versus doing admin is a rather large ratio17:37
wxlit doesn't have to be NOW17:37
lubot<teward001> also FYI17:38
lubot<teward001> the moment I start changing stuff17:38
lubot<teward001> Phab SSH goes down too17:38
lubot<teward001> i'm about to make changes :P17:38
lubot<teward001> INCOMING TORPEDOES!17:38
The_LoudSpeakerI pinged unit193 about the xscreensaver dialogue box logo.17:40
The_LoudSpeakersent him link to the task also. 17:40
The_LoudSpeakerhe said he will read and reply tomorrow.17:40
The_LoudSpeakeralso, wxl review D45 ploxx17:41
wxli will eventually :)17:41
The_LoudSpeakerhii lynorian !17:42
The_LoudSpeakerme too on quassel now!17:42
lynorianhello sorry should have opened this17:42
lubot<teward001> wxl go try things now17:46
The_LoudSpeakerphab's got ssh port changed to 22?17:47
lubot<teward001> because wxl asked it to be yes17:47
lubot<teward001> *salts wxl*17:47
wxlthere you go things are fixed now raman17:49
lubot<teward001> now17:49
lubot<teward001> wxl:17:49
lubot<teward001> give me money17:49
lubot<teward001> E:MONEYREQUIRED17:49
* wxl hands teward a peso17:49
lubot<teward001> *shoots wxl's hands off with a laser rifle*17:50
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* The_LoudSpeaker hands teward a lumen.17:52
* lynorian gives teward 1,000,000 zimbabwe dollars17:53
The_LoudSpeakerSO GENEROUS17:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL682b11ebf1e3: Remove double space after period] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL682b11ebf1e318:00
lubot<teward001> lynorian: I actually have two 10,000,000 Zimbabwe Dollar notes lol18:03
lubot<teward001> xD18:03
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL035ad4a9aa4b: Add Size Row] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL035ad4a9aa4b18:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3cd7ae2af83a: Add Downloaded row] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3cd7ae2af83a18:22
lubot<tsimonq2> Can someone please update the CI config?18:34
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL98941e547a6c: Add remaining time row] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL98941e547a6c18:39
The_LoudSpeakerteward: ssh cloning works on mobile data but not on sophos18:45
apt-ghettoIf it is not clear, which CI config => https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/browse/master/ci.conf18:47
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALda4d316bae99: Add file column] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALda4d316bae9918:48
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL730a1a94ef1a: Add Size column] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL730a1a94ef1a18:49
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 [Can someone please update the CI config?], you just volunteered yes, or wxl has18:53
lubot<teward001> i can't :)18:53
lubot<tsimonq2> It's literally just a YAML file18:54
lubot<teward001> where18:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL706ff9a3a517: Add progresss column] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL706ff9a3a51718:55
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [where], https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/18:55
lubot<teward001> 1 moment18:56
lubot<teward001> E:NOPUSHACCESS18:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb518c370a2b8: Add Priority column] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb518c370a2b818:57
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [E:NOPUSHACCESS], Propose a diff18:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Someone with commit access will merge18:57
lynorianeww TAML18:59
lynorianeww YAML18:59
lubot<teward001> stop making crap difficult SImon lol18:59
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [stop making crap difficult SImon lol], It's a bit Jacky18:59
lubot<tsimonq2> *hacky18:59
lubot<tsimonq2> Wtf autocorrect18:59
lubot<tsimonq2> But that's okay18:59
lubot<teward001> lies.19:00
lubot<teward001> E:NODOCUMENTATION19:00
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [E:NODOCUMENTATION], True19:00
lubot<teward001> so write some19:01
lubot* teward001 leaves CI alone because he has no direct access and arc is a pain to get working, and goes to finish developing is Python wrapper around DNS just for one tiny project19:01
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [so write some], ENOTIME19:01
lubot<teward001> you cannot have time unless you take time so take the time to write it\19:01
lubot<teward001> or just fix things yourself :P19:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL208f833d34e1: Make new paragraph] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL208f833d34e119:03
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL46434565fb74: Add transmission prop file screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL46434565fb7419:09
lubot<RikMills> I started to read the backlog on all that, but E:NOCANBEARSED!19:16
lubot* RikMills goes back to building plasma 5.17 beta,....19:17
wxl@apt-ghetto you planning on fixing ci?19:38
lubot<aptghetto> I can plan it for Saturday or Sunday19:39
wxlit's just a matter of :%s/\:2222//g no?19:41
kc2bezbased on my backlog reading it looks like it wxl 19:45
wxlif that's the case, i could do it19:47
kc2bezI don't have my keys here at work. 19:48
wxldude, remote container. telling you, best idea i ever had19:49
kc2bezI need to I guess. 19:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIMETADATA932c75dde266: swapped ssh port from 2222 to 22] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA932c75dde26619:54
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker could you prioritize that upstream bug report re: runner/globalkeys?19:59
wxland hey i just had a thought19:59
wxlwe might want to test renaming runner to come before globalkeys and see what happens before we do the report20:00
wxlthe lxqt_runner.desktop rename WOULD fix it since _ comes after - in terms of ASCII codes20:00
wxl(that was the joke)20:01
The_LoudSpeakerwxl: which bug you mean?20:09
The_LoudSpeakerlike runner not working with assigned shortcut even after setting a global config in xdg-settings?20:10
wxlthe other thing to test is that if it behaves right if there's NO definition for runner in the config 20:11
wxlglobalkeys i mean20:11
The_LoudSpeakerack. booting vm rn.20:11
The_LoudSpeakerIt doesn't work20:19
The_LoudSpeakerohh wait. I forgot to remove it from global conf. 20:19
The_LoudSpeakerignore last 2 sentences20:20
The_LoudSpeakereureka! eureka! eureka!20:25
The_LoudSpeakeryup! removing it from globalkeys worked20:25
The_LoudSpeakerthe shortcut from runner's config appended itself at the end of globalkeys.20:26
The_LoudSpeakernow what do you want me to do?20:26
The_LoudSpeakernew diff with modifications to globalkeys.conf ?20:27
The_LoudSpeakerand a long issue upstream.20:27
The_LoudSpeakersounds right?20:27
wxl^^ @The_LoudSpeaker20:35
wxlit also might be interesting to test the whole order of autostart too just for grins20:36
wxlincluding both pieces of info in the bug report20:36
The_LoudSpeakerInstructions about testing the order.20:36
wxlbasically rename the runner desktop.. just for the sake of being sure, do this: `cd /etc/xdg/autostart; sudo mv lxqt-runner.desktop aaaa-lxqt-runner.desktop`20:41
wxltry to do that with the globalkeys definition in place, though20:42
wxlso we might have two separate fixes for the problem, depending20:42
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Fixed runner's default shortcut.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D4620:43
The_LoudSpeakerack. will do.20:43
The_LoudSpeakerfirst let me prepare a paste for the meet20:43
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS4b392693a650: Fixed runner's default shortcut.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS4b392693a65020:52
ubot93standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done.21:01
lubot<lynorian> \p21:02
The_LoudSpeakerwho first?21:04
kc2bezlooks like you The_LoudSpeaker21:04
The_LoudSpeakerack. Here it goes:21:04
The_LoudSpeaker* lubuntu-grub-theme 21:04
The_LoudSpeakerAdded lubuntu-grub-theme to rARTWORK21:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added lubuntu-grub-theme: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D4521:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Theme GRUB: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3021:04
The_LoudSpeakerNow after it gets accepted, someone tell me how to add it to live.21:04
The_LoudSpeaker* Keyboard Shortcuts21:04
The_LoudSpeakerRemoved runner from globalkeys and added separate config last week. Combined, they make runner work. Along with everything else. Finally!21:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fixed runner's default shortcut.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D4621:04
The_LoudSpeaker* Dialogue for Xscreensaver21:04
The_LoudSpeakerCreated a task for xscreensaver's dialogue box.21:04
The_LoudSpeaker* Xscreensaver theme21:04
The_LoudSpeakerRead wxl's comment. Will try to complete in this week. along with T19921:04
The_LoudSpeaker* Answered a couple of questions here and there. Will try to answer more.21:05
The_LoudSpeakerMailing lists:21:05
The_LoudSpeakerlugito didn't die!21:06
kc2bezGood stuff!21:07
kc2bez@lynorian you are next I think.21:07
wxlok i'm here i'm here21:07
The_LoudSpeakerany inputs sensei?21:07
wxlnaw; we'll talk more after grub theme is sponsored21:08
wxli want to take some time to review that, though21:09
The_LoudSpeakerohh! now he died. RIP lugito21:09
The_LoudSpeakeryup! take your time.21:09
wxloh shoot21:09
lynorianI did not prepare breath of life today21:09
wxl@teward001 didn't you systemd lugito? is he going to come back on his own?21:10
kc2bezlynorian: I've noticed many manual updates as always21:10
lynorianWho is next?21:11
lynorianor are we waiting on lugito coming back21:12
kc2bezI think I am.21:12
The_LoudSpeakerwierd thing, lugito died approximately 5 mins after his last message Not just after my paste. he might come after 5 it seems, if it's systemded21:12
lubot<tsimonq2> @lynorian [<lynorian> or are we waiting on lugito coming back], Not again... Ugh21:12
lubot<tsimonq2> I want teward to look at it this time21:12
wxlok i'll go get it21:12
wxlso let's carry on then21:12
kc2bezOkie dokie21:13
The_LoudSpeakeryup! sorry to interrupt. 21:13
kc2bez* Tasks21:13
kc2bez- https://phab.lubuntu.me/T7621:13
kc2bez- Have emailed the Wallpaper contest finalists to get their full resolution artwork.21:13
kc2bez- I am still waiting to hear from some, I will get that prepped to go out ASAP and upload what I have soon.21:13
kc2bez* Uploads21:13
kc2bez- Sponsored https://phab.lubuntu.me/D44 for apt-ghetto21:13
kc2bez* TODO21:13
kc2bez- https://phab.lubuntu.me/T120 Beta release testing21:13
kc2bez* ALSO21:14
kc2bez- Made a minor amendment to wxl 's new wiki page for Cala debugging.21:14
* kc2bez tips hat21:14
tewardintercedence for importance: Lugito'll be checked after this wedding I'm going to.  Nothing to report for the standup at the moment other than the Phab git/ssh port is now port 2221:14
* teward is busy starting right now, and goes nonresponsive21:14
kc2bezThat is all I have for this week.21:14
wxlthx teward21:14
lynorianis me I think?21:15
kc2bezSure I didn't mean to but in front lynorian21:15
kc2bezsorry about that21:15
lynorianAdd new buttons for lxqt-sudo21:15
lynorianFix warnings21:15
lynorianupdate installer w new language and 21:15
lynorianWork on desktop icons chapter with desktop icons sorting21:15
lynoriancreating new folders or files on desktop21:15
lynorianReword summaries on most chapters21:15
lynorianAdd opening url for torrents 21:15
lynorianSorting torrents in transmission21:15
lynoriantorrent properties in transmission21:15
lynorianmove version below Usage in many sections21:15
lynorianminor typo fixed21:15
wxlnice work21:16
wxl(as always!)21:17
lynorianand that was the short version to not make a wall of text21:17
wxli guess i'm next?21:17
wxl * made some comments to finish up @Guephren's Lenny https://phab.lubuntu.me/T75#234421:18
wxl * summarized all the ideas surrounding xscreensaver https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#234321:18
wxl * added DEBSIGN_KEYID to packaging requirements https://phab.lubuntu.me/phriction/diff/13/?l=10&r=1121:18
wxl * accepted automirror refactor https://phab.lubuntu.me/D4421:18
wxl * sponsored conf file for runner (plus some shortcut fixes) https://phab.lubuntu.me/D4321:18
wxl * sponsored a final fix for the runner shortcut! GO RAMAN!!! https://phab.lubuntu.me/D4621:18
wxl * after pouring over much time into the cpp manual, created upstream forum post discussing autostarting applications in lxqt-session https://forum.lxqt.org/t/lxqt-session-and-autostarting-applications/89221:18
wxl * created Debugging wiki based on what I learned about lxqt-session, plus some other stuff I had off the top of my head https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/debugging/21:18
wxl * *** ATTENTION *** had @teward001 change the Phab ssh port to 22 from 2222 so that Raman and others don't get blocked by firewalls, etc. and don't have to resort to relatively insecure VCS passwords over HTTP21:18
wxl * changed the CI conf to use port 22 instead of 2222 https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA932c75dde26621:18
The_LoudSpeakerStill I can't get ssh working on sophos! -\o/-21:19
wxlwell sophos sucks so21:19
The_LoudSpeakersorry for the inconvinience21:19
wxlusing 2222 was dumb anyways21:19
kc2bezThat ^^ and probably application layer based firewall not port based.21:20
The_LoudSpeakerlite. I am off to bed now. tomorrow friday21:21
wxlnight thanks for the good work21:21
kc2bezI think that was everyone that checked in.21:22
The_LoudSpeakerguiverc: ?21:22
The_LoudSpeakerhe came online in the middle I guess.21:22
guivercsorry, nothing to report21:24
The_LoudSpeakerLite. There's no compulsion anywhere.21:25
guivercfyi:  tsimonq2 I chased up 1709 upstream (T120), the misinterpreted something I said so I clarified & have got no more - they don't know where bug is (except maybe they wonder Qt); menu opening wrong position21:32
guiverctsimonq2- can I/[we] chase up t56? (testcases awaiting review) or is that bad manners?21:32
wxlguiverc: they haven't closed your upstream issue which is a good sign and means they believe you XD21:35
kc2bezThat's always a win in my book XD21:36
wxlguiverc: also could you summarize what you need with T56?21:40
wxlguiverc: if it's a simple matter of you having already submitted your changes and someone needs to review, just link me and i'll do it21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> So, global keys is fixed?21:42
wxlyep; the key was killing the definition for runner in globalkeys21:43
guivercnothing's been done since sept-1 (if not aug-31); i'll find it & come back wxl21:43
guivercwxl https://code.launchpad.net/~guiverc/ubuntu-manual-tests/lubuntu-calamares21:44
wxlguiverc: would you be so kind as to assign me as a reviewer on that?21:44
guiverc:)   once I work out how, no probs..  let me try..21:45
wxli did it21:46
guiverc:)   & I discovered tehre are a number of wxl's on launchpad21:47
wxlbah there's only one that matters XD21:47
guivercso very true :)21:48
guivercwxl: I'll also have to look, there should be a 1 or two more (non-full disk) done 1-2 days later21:50
wxli'll have at it this week or so21:50
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> yep; the key was killing the definition for runner in globalkeys], Good, works OK with update or only new daily?21:52
wxl@HMollerCl to be fair i don't think we tested with update, so if you want to do that, that would be great21:52
guivercwxl:  the others were pasted (sept1) on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T56 only, not pushed upstream; so they can only be seen there (I got stuck on GUI upgrade..)21:55
wxlyou can keep pushing upstream you know21:55
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl to be fair i don't think we tested with update, so if you want …], Still isn't in the repo, I have 19.10.7 and last ist 19.10.822:49
wxlyeah probably hasn't made its way yet22:49

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