[00:00] is that place by the jeans store still there? is the jeans store still there? [00:00] oops wrong channel jeez that's a real winner [00:01] :) [00:04] @wxl [ yeah maybe :/], lxqt-zglobalkeys [00:07] @HMollerCl maybe we could fly under the radar with lxqt_globalkeys XD [00:07] @The_LoudSpeaker [ also, @tsimonq2 you want me to remove that unnecessary travis …], Please do [00:08] @wxl [ @HMollerCl maybe we could fly under the radar with lxqt_globalkeys XD], Good one! [03:12] @tsimonq2 [Please do], Already did. Check D45. Also, suggest testing methods. [03:13] @HMollerCl [Good one!], Am I the only one who didn't get that joke? -\o/- [03:14] Starting them in reverse order seems better than changing names. But easier hack is a startup script. We only need it to happen once. After that, it creates the local version of config and works thereafter. [03:57] Btw, I had cloned rARTWORK via git and not ssh. … I got it why it didn't give me write permissions earlier. I had to set a vcs password. [03:58] I no longer have to switch to mobile data now to clone from phab. [04:03] Also, any idea how do I supress a warning generated by my prerm file? [04:04] Something about not removing the folder boot/grub/ coz it's not empty. [05:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd1a965d5de09: Move Version below Usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd1a965d5de09 [05:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL397802151122: Move Usage below version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL397802151122 [05:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3a3c834c6001: Move version below Screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3a3c834c6001 [05:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL17f68a3582b8: Move Version below usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL17f68a3582b8 [05:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3b822373b097: Move version below Usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3b822373b097 [05:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbf3021e8d9ae: Move Version below Usage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbf3021e8d9ae [07:06] http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/ … The logo on this page needs to be updated. [16:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7807ebbd987d: Fix formatting] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7807ebbd987d [17:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALeb3d414079b2: Reorder up and down arrows in widgets] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALeb3d414079b2 [17:31] @THe_LoudSpeaker if you can figure out ANY other solution than http, it would be appreciated. from the docs "Your VCS password must be a different password than your main Phabricator password because VCS passwords are very easy to accidentally disclose. They are often stored in plaintext in world-readable files, observable in ps output, and present in command output and logs. " [17:32] yup! my vcs password is different from my phab password [17:32] plus I have 2 factor auth for phab. [17:32] i know, but what i'm saying is they're kind of exposed [17:33] ohh. if they are exposed then I will use ssh only. [17:33] can you use 22, i.e. the normal ssh? [17:33] yup! [17:33] but phab has 2222 [17:33] @teward's fault [17:34] teward: why doesn't phab follow standard port? [17:34] @teward001 see "SSHD Port Assignment" here https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/diffusion_hosting/ and let's see if we can't figure out some solution that could use 22. the port swap seems pretty simple. load balancer would be more difficult but would be easy, too. perhaps we could alternately use a firewall to do port forwarding? [17:34] @wxl [ @teward001 see "SSHD Port Assignment" here https://secure.phabricator.com/ …], the problem is the host needs to use port 22 [17:34] it's not his fault.. it's simon's fault for not looking at alternatives, but it's the standard setup [17:34] wxl no the issue is twofold: [17:34] (1) One IP address [17:34] @teward001 you're telling me something i know. read the doc. [17:35] (2) Host also needs to be SSH reachable [17:35] @wxl Simon explicitly asked to keep the 2222 [17:35] this was before Lubuntu Council was formed [17:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb0c6e5eaf3a9: Reword changing font size] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb0c6e5eaf3a9 [17:35] well i'm gonna call b.s. on that because it's entirely unnecessary [17:35] @teward001 [(2) Host also needs to be SSH reachable], for this change your firewall settings na. allow inbound ssh on 22 [17:35] there's no reason we HAVE to have the admin sshd be 22 [17:36] yup! no worries. It's okay for me. [17:36] and actually we could leave it the way it is and just do forwarding [17:36] I just have to use it while cloning, arc diff works well. [17:36] @wxl [ there's no reason we HAVE to have the admin sshd be 22], well i quite like dropping right to it when I SSH to it, but what would you propose we use for the admin SSH port then? [17:36] also FYI, the 'port' is already forwarded via LXD [17:36] @teward001 uhhh 2222 [17:36] @The_LoudSpeaker [I just have to use it while cloning, arc diff works well.], Thank sophos for that. [17:36] @teward001 or for that matter 237896127836178263 [17:37] this'll take time though [17:37] and i can't do that while at work [17:37] the number of potential users for using phab versus doing admin is a rather large ratio [17:37] it doesn't have to be NOW [17:38] also FYI [17:38] the moment I start changing stuff [17:38] Phab SSH goes down too [17:38] i'm about to make changes :P [17:38] INCOMING TORPEDOES! [17:40] I pinged unit193 about the xscreensaver dialogue box logo. [17:40] sent him link to the task also. [17:40] he said he will read and reply tomorrow. [17:41] also, wxl review D45 ploxx [17:41] cool [17:41] i will eventually :) [17:42] hii lynorian ! [17:42] me too on quassel now! [17:42] hello sorry should have opened this [17:46] wxl go try things now [17:47] phab's got ssh port changed to 22? [17:47] because wxl asked it to be yes [17:47] *salts wxl* [17:49] there you go things are fixed now raman [17:49] now [17:49] wxl: [17:49] give me money [17:49] E:MONEYREQUIRED [17:49] * wxl hands teward a peso [17:50] *shoots wxl's hands off with a laser rifle* [17:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc0b2b2b9aefc: Fix title] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc0b2b2b9aefc [17:52] * The_LoudSpeaker hands teward a lumen. [17:53] * lynorian gives teward 1,000,000 zimbabwe dollars [17:54] \o/ [17:54] SO GENEROUS [18:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL682b11ebf1e3: Remove double space after period] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL682b11ebf1e3 [18:03] lynorian: I actually have two 10,000,000 Zimbabwe Dollar notes lol [18:03] xD [18:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL035ad4a9aa4b: Add Size Row] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL035ad4a9aa4b [18:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3cd7ae2af83a: Add Downloaded row] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3cd7ae2af83a [18:34] Can someone please update the CI config? [18:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL98941e547a6c: Add remaining time row] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL98941e547a6c [18:45] teward: ssh cloning works on mobile data but not on sophos [18:47] If it is not clear, which CI config => https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/browse/master/ci.conf [18:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALda4d316bae99: Add file column] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALda4d316bae99 [18:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL730a1a94ef1a: Add Size column] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL730a1a94ef1a [18:53] @tsimonq2 [Can someone please update the CI config?], you just volunteered yes, or wxl has [18:53] i can't :) [18:54] It's literally just a YAML file [18:54] where [18:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL706ff9a3a517: Add progresss column] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL706ff9a3a517 [18:55] @teward001 [where], https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ [18:56] 1 moment [18:57] E:NOPUSHACCESS [18:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb518c370a2b8: Add Priority column] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb518c370a2b8 [18:57] @teward001 [E:NOPUSHACCESS], Propose a diff [18:57] Someone with commit access will merge [18:59] eww TAML [18:59] eww YAML [18:59] stop making crap difficult SImon lol [18:59] @teward001 [stop making crap difficult SImon lol], It's a bit Jacky [18:59] *hacky [18:59] Wtf autocorrect [18:59] But that's okay [19:00] lies. [19:00] E:NODOCUMENTATION [19:00] @teward001 [E:NODOCUMENTATION], True [19:01] so write some [19:01] * teward001 leaves CI alone because he has no direct access and arc is a pain to get working, and goes to finish developing is Python wrapper around DNS just for one tiny project [19:01] @teward001 [so write some], ENOTIME [19:01] you cannot have time unless you take time so take the time to write it\ [19:01] or just fix things yourself :P [19:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL208f833d34e1: Make new paragraph] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL208f833d34e1 [19:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL46434565fb74: Add transmission prop file screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL46434565fb74 [19:16] I started to read the backlog on all that, but E:NOCANBEARSED! [19:17] * RikMills goes back to building plasma 5.17 beta,.... [19:38] @apt-ghetto you planning on fixing ci? [19:39] I can plan it for Saturday or Sunday [19:41] it's just a matter of :%s/\:2222//g no? [19:45] based on my backlog reading it looks like it wxl [19:47] if that's the case, i could do it [19:48] I don't have my keys here at work. [19:49] dude, remote container. telling you, best idea i ever had [19:49] I need to I guess. [19:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIMETADATA932c75dde266: swapped ssh port from 2222 to 22] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA932c75dde266 [19:59] @The_LoudSpeaker could you prioritize that upstream bug report re: runner/globalkeys? [19:59] and hey i just had a thought [20:00] we might want to test renaming runner to come before globalkeys and see what happens before we do the report [20:00] the lxqt_runner.desktop rename WOULD fix it since _ comes after - in terms of ASCII codes [20:01] (that was the joke) [20:09] wxl: which bug you mean? [20:10] like runner not working with assigned shortcut even after setting a global config in xdg-settings? [20:10] yes [20:11] the other thing to test is that if it behaves right if there's NO definition for runner in the config [20:11] globalkeys i mean [20:11] ack. booting vm rn. [20:19] It doesn't work [20:19] ohh wait. I forgot to remove it from global conf. [20:20] ignore last 2 sentences [20:25] eureka! eureka! eureka! [20:25] yup! removing it from globalkeys worked [20:26] the shortcut from runner's config appended itself at the end of globalkeys. [20:26] now what do you want me to do? [20:27] new diff with modifications to globalkeys.conf ? [20:27] and a long issue upstream. [20:27] sounds right? [20:35] yes [20:35] ^^ @The_LoudSpeaker [20:36] it also might be interesting to test the whole order of autostart too just for grins [20:36] including both pieces of info in the bug report [20:36] Yup! [20:36] Instructions about testing the order. [20:36] ? [20:41] basically rename the runner desktop.. just for the sake of being sure, do this: `cd /etc/xdg/autostart; sudo mv lxqt-runner.desktop aaaa-lxqt-runner.desktop` [20:42] try to do that with the globalkeys definition in place, though [20:42] so we might have two separate fixes for the problem, depending [20:43] https://phab.lubuntu.me/D46 [20:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Fixed runner's default shortcut.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D46 [20:43] ack. will do. [20:43] first let me prepare a paste for the meet [20:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS4b392693a650: Fixed runner's default shortcut.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS4b392693a650 [21:01] !standup [21:01] standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done. [21:01] o/ [21:02] \p [21:03] o/ [21:04] who first? [21:04] looks like you The_LoudSpeaker [21:04] ack. Here it goes: [21:04] Tasks: [21:04] * lubuntu-grub-theme [21:04] Added lubuntu-grub-theme to rARTWORK [21:04] https://phab.lubuntu.me/D45 [21:04] https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30 [21:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Added lubuntu-grub-theme: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D45 [21:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Theme GRUB: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T30 [21:04] Now after it gets accepted, someone tell me how to add it to live. [21:04] * Keyboard Shortcuts [21:04] Removed runner from globalkeys and added separate config last week. Combined, they make runner work. Along with everything else. Finally! [21:04] https://phab.lubuntu.me/D46 [21:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fixed runner's default shortcut.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D46 [21:04] https://phab.lubuntu.me/D59 [21:04] * Dialogue for Xscreensaver [21:04] Created a task for xscreensaver's dialogue box. [21:04] https://phab.lubuntu.me/T199 [21:04] * Xscreensaver theme [21:04] Read wxl's comment. Will try to complete in this week. along with T199 [21:05] Forums: [21:05] * Answered a couple of questions here and there. Will try to answer more. [21:05] Mailing lists: [21:05] E:NOWORKREQUIRED [21:05] done! [21:06] Thanks! [21:06] lugito didn't die! [21:07] Good stuff! [21:07] @lynorian you are next I think. [21:07] ok i'm here i'm here [21:07] any inputs sensei? [21:08] naw; we'll talk more after grub theme is sponsored [21:08] sure! [21:09] i want to take some time to review that, though [21:09] ohh! now he died. RIP lugito [21:09] RIP [21:09] yup! take your time. [21:09] oh shoot [21:09] I did not prepare breath of life today [21:10] @teward001 didn't you systemd lugito? is he going to come back on his own? [21:10] lynorian: I've noticed many manual updates as always [21:11] Who is next? [21:12] or are we waiting on lugito coming back [21:12] I think I am. [21:12] wierd thing, lugito died approximately 5 mins after his last message Not just after my paste. he might come after 5 it seems, if it's systemded [21:12] @lynorian [ or are we waiting on lugito coming back], Not again... Ugh [21:12] I want teward to look at it this time [21:12] ok i'll go get it [21:12] oh [21:12] ok [21:12] so let's carry on then [21:13] Okie dokie [21:13] yup! sorry to interrupt. [21:13] 021174 [21:13] oops [21:13] * Tasks [21:13] - https://phab.lubuntu.me/T76 [21:13] - Have emailed the Wallpaper contest finalists to get their full resolution artwork. [21:13] - I am still waiting to hear from some, I will get that prepped to go out ASAP and upload what I have soon. [21:13] * Uploads [21:13] - Sponsored https://phab.lubuntu.me/D44 for apt-ghetto [21:13] * TODO [21:13] - https://phab.lubuntu.me/T120 Beta release testing [21:14] * ALSO [21:14] - Made a minor amendment to wxl 's new wiki page for Cala debugging. [21:14] danke! [21:14] * kc2bez tips hat [21:14] intercedence for importance: Lugito'll be checked after this wedding I'm going to. Nothing to report for the standup at the moment other than the Phab git/ssh port is now port 22 [21:14] * teward is busy starting right now, and goes nonresponsive [21:14] That is all I have for this week. [21:14] thx teward [21:14] next [21:14] understood [21:15] is me I think? [21:15] Sure I didn't mean to but in front lynorian [21:15] sorry about that [21:15] Add new buttons for lxqt-sudo [21:15] Fix warnings [21:15] update installer w new language and [21:15] Work on desktop icons chapter with desktop icons sorting [21:15] creating new folders or files on desktop [21:15] Reword summaries on most chapters [21:15] Add opening url for torrents [21:15] Sorting torrents in transmission [21:15] torrent properties in transmission [21:15] move version below Usage in many sections [21:15] minor typo fixed [21:16] nice work [21:17] (as always!) [21:17] and that was the short version to not make a wall of text [21:17] XD [21:17] i guess i'm next? [21:17] yes [21:18] * made some comments to finish up @Guephren's Lenny https://phab.lubuntu.me/T75#2344 [21:18] * summarized all the ideas surrounding xscreensaver https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2343 [21:18] * added DEBSIGN_KEYID to packaging requirements https://phab.lubuntu.me/phriction/diff/13/?l=10&r=11 [21:18] * accepted automirror refactor https://phab.lubuntu.me/D44 [21:18] * sponsored conf file for runner (plus some shortcut fixes) https://phab.lubuntu.me/D43 [21:18] * sponsored a final fix for the runner shortcut! GO RAMAN!!! https://phab.lubuntu.me/D46 [21:18] * after pouring over much time into the cpp manual, created upstream forum post discussing autostarting applications in lxqt-session https://forum.lxqt.org/t/lxqt-session-and-autostarting-applications/892 [21:18] * created Debugging wiki based on what I learned about lxqt-session, plus some other stuff I had off the top of my head https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/debugging/ [21:18] * *** ATTENTION *** had @teward001 change the Phab ssh port to 22 from 2222 so that Raman and others don't get blocked by firewalls, etc. and don't have to resort to relatively insecure VCS passwords over HTTP [21:18] * changed the CI conf to use port 22 instead of 2222 https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA932c75dde266 [21:19] Still I can't get ssh working on sophos! -\o/- [21:19] well sophos sucks so [21:19] sorry for the inconvinience [21:19] using 2222 was dumb anyways [21:20] That ^^ and probably application layer based firewall not port based. [21:20] yeppers [21:21] lite. I am off to bed now. tomorrow friday [21:21] bye. [21:21] night thanks for the good work [21:22] Cheers! [21:22] I think that was everyone that checked in. [21:22] guiverc: ? [21:22] he came online in the middle I guess. [21:24] sorry, nothing to report [21:25] Lite. There's no compulsion anywhere. [21:32] fyi: tsimonq2 I chased up 1709 upstream (T120), the misinterpreted something I said so I clarified & have got no more - they don't know where bug is (except maybe they wonder Qt); menu opening wrong position [21:32] tsimonq2- can I/[we] chase up t56? (testcases awaiting review) or is that bad manners? [21:35] guiverc: they haven't closed your upstream issue which is a good sign and means they believe you XD [21:36] That's always a win in my book XD [21:40] guiverc: also could you summarize what you need with T56? [21:41] guiverc: if it's a simple matter of you having already submitted your changes and someone needs to review, just link me and i'll do it [21:42] So, global keys is fixed? [21:43] yep; the key was killing the definition for runner in globalkeys [21:43] nothing's been done since sept-1 (if not aug-31); i'll find it & come back wxl [21:44] wxl https://code.launchpad.net/~guiverc/ubuntu-manual-tests/lubuntu-calamares [21:44] guiverc: would you be so kind as to assign me as a reviewer on that? [21:45] :) once I work out how, no probs.. let me try.. [21:46] i did it [21:47] :) & I discovered tehre are a number of wxl's on launchpad [21:47] bah there's only one that matters XD [21:48] so very true :) [21:50] wxl: I'll also have to look, there should be a 1 or two more (non-full disk) done 1-2 days later [21:50] i'll have at it this week or so [21:52] @wxl [ yep; the key was killing the definition for runner in globalkeys], Good, works OK with update or only new daily? [21:52] @HMollerCl to be fair i don't think we tested with update, so if you want to do that, that would be great [21:55] wxl: the others were pasted (sept1) on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T56 only, not pushed upstream; so they can only be seen there (I got stuck on GUI upgrade..) [21:55] you can keep pushing upstream you know [22:49] @wxl [ @HMollerCl to be fair i don't think we tested with update, so if you want …], Still isn't in the repo, I have 19.10.7 and last ist 19.10.8 [22:49] yeah probably hasn't made its way yet