[01:45] <OvenWerks> wonko: 3 hours and 30 minutes at 128 frames (64 for zita which I should change) zero xruns. I was running at 64, but I think that puts zita at 32 and my extra usb device would not start that low.
[01:49] <wonko> I'm just going to accept the fact I'll never get that. :)
[01:50] <wonko> Also, I'm more interested in getting jackd not crashing. :)
[02:16]  * OvenWerks wishes he knew why...
[02:28] <wonko> I'm willing to ignore it until next week after I've pulled the webcam out and replaced it with a mic wired directly into the KA6. Less nonsense going on then.
[02:28] <wonko> I do need to find a mic stand though.
[02:29] <wonko> not sure what I want to do about that
[02:46] <OvenWerks> wonko: In my local dollar store I found "goose neck" like cell phone holder. It has a spring clamp at each end, one for a table top (shelf here) and the other for the cell phone... it seems to hold my mic just fine. No good for standup use and it has to be near my desk... though I would guess there are other thing I could hook it to.
[02:47] <OvenWerks> I do have real mic stands for standup use, I git this to keep this mic close to the computer (where it can pick up fan noise) for test purposes more than anything.
[03:10] <wonko> Yeah, I'm thinking something like that or some sort of small one that sits on the desk or one of those sprung ones and have it over the monitors.
[03:12] <wonko> https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254298939072
[03:12] <wonko> Something like that
[14:05] <Tode_I> Hey all, I've got 18.10 on my laptop and apparently that's out of support - I'm happy to upgrade to 19.04, but do I just use the standard Ubuntu upgrade app, or is there a special method to get updates specific to UbStu?
[14:12] <tomreyn> !eolupgrade | Tode_I: i have no ubuntu studio specific knowledge, but generall i'd say: if the standard upgrade app still works for it, use it. otherwise, edit sources.list as discussed here
[14:13] <Tode_I> I'm assuming that running the standard upgrade will be part of it, but there is a possibility that the standard path will break dependencies, which suggests there's probably more to it, unless everything in US is in the standard Ubuntu packages.
[14:19] <tomreyn> you'll probably need to reactivate the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/BackportsPPA after release upgrading (and install the updates provided from there), but i assume that's it.
[14:20] <tomreyn> if you want to be sure, better wait a bit more for someone who actually known US to respond, repeating your question occasionally.
[15:08] <wonko> OvenWerks: You ready for a really odd edge case issue that will probably only ever affect me? (and I'm ok with the workaround) :-D
[15:10] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: No, you actually answered correctly. EOL Upgrades are the same in any flavor.
[15:11] <tomreyn> Tode_I: ^
[15:11] <tomreyn> thanks for confirming, Eickmeyer
[15:11] <Tode_I> Thanks folks :>
[15:11] <Eickmeyer> Tode_I: It's important to note: Ubuntu Studio IS Ubuntu, just like any flavor.
[15:17] <wonko> You just add a repo and "magic" it into US. That's what I did with my previous install. It started out as regular Ubuntu and I turned it into US. Which I was pretty impressed with. :)
[16:04] <Eickmeyer> wonko: That's actually false. One of the requirements of being an official Ubuntu flavor is that we cannot have any repos other than those included in Ubuntu by default. So, no, it's not a matter of adding a repo. It's a matter of using the right version of ubuntustudio-installer. 18.04 requires the backports PPA for that purpose, but that's the only exception.
[16:11] <wonko> So how did I convert my Ubuntu 18.04 to Ubuntu Studio 18.04? I thought I just added a repo? It's been a while so I honestly forget. For 19.04 I did a fresh install with the ubuntustudio-installer.
[16:12] <Eickmeyer> wonko: I don't know. But it's not a matter of adding a repo to go Ubuntu to Ubuntu Studio. You might be thinking of KXStudio.
[16:12] <OvenWerks> wonko: those are not added repos, just more ubuntu.
[16:15] <wonko> did I just install metapackages? It literally installed and the US bundled software, setup jack and switched me to the lowlatency kernel.
[16:15] <Eickmeyer> The "Studio", much like the "K" in Kubuntu only denotes what is installed by default. It's not a separate distro.
[16:15] <wonko> and it wasn't kxstudio stuff, that came laster
[16:16] <wonko> ah, so I was almost right
[16:16] <wonko> just subtract the "Add a repo" step. :)
[16:16] <tomreyn> and you probably installed the "ubuntustudio-desktop" package
[16:17] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: Please do not tell people to install the "ubuntustudio-desktop" package to get Ubuntu Studio on their system. That's false. "ubuntustudio-installer" is what they need.
[16:17] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-installer
[16:18] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: That's an old, outdated method that I've been trying to get people to stop doing now for almost a year.
[16:18] <tomreyn> oh ok, i'll try to remember this
[16:18] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: I know I've told you this before. :)
[16:19] <tomreyn> i bet i forgot it before, and chances are i will forget it again, sorry :/
[16:19] <Eickmeyer> All good. :) And please, harp on the regulars in #ubuntu about this for me, too. My time has been quite sporadic lately. :)
[16:19] <tomreyn> i did not "tell people to install the 'ubuntustudio-desktop' package to get Ubuntu Studio on their system", though.
[16:19] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: Ok, but I know others have (I've seen it).
[16:20] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: I appreciate you, I hope you know that. :)
[16:21] <tomreyn> Eickmeyer: not specificially, but please know that's mutual ;)
[16:21] <tomreyn> and thanks.
[16:21] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: Quite welcome. :)
[16:33] <wonko> What's the default audio/music player on US 19.04? O dpm
[16:33] <wonko> bah: I don't see Rhytembox or anything like that
[16:34] <wonko> I need to tune out the world while I update some documentation (my least favorite task, like ever)
[16:40] <Eickmeyer> wonko: There isn't one.
[16:41] <wonko> That explains why I can't find one. :)
[16:41]  * OvenWerks uses audacious
[16:44] <wonko> nice and light but I want something that'll just pick up my giant directory of music. Eh, Rhythembox isn't the worst, I'll just use that.
[18:33] <wonko> mic and cables showed up. Wasn't expecting them until next week. Nice!
[18:33] <wonko> Now, how does this thing show up in jack?
[18:38] <OvenWerks> It should have already shown
[18:38] <OvenWerks>  There should be no change in jack.... unless it is a usb mic :P
[18:38] <wonko> it plugs into the KA6
[18:38] <wonko> so nothing should change
[18:38] <wonko> but I don't know how the KA6 inputs map to the jack side
[18:39] <wonko> I would figure it's one of capture 1-6
[18:39] <OvenWerks> for inputs it should be 1 to 1
[18:39] <OvenWerks>  plug one on the box should be cap 1
[18:39] <OvenWerks> outputs may be weird
[18:39] <wonko> helps if I turn the gain knob up from 0 for that mic input. :)
[18:40] <OvenWerks>  main out, mon out and phones may be all different
[18:42] <wonko> Yeah, I haven't even begun to think about outputs other than headphones
[18:42] <wonko> I do need to look into a nice setup though
[18:42] <wonko> so, no more usb
[18:42] <wonko> so that's a thing
[18:42] <wonko> usb mic that is
[18:56] <Tode_I> So what's the best virtual DX7?
[19:14] <mrz80> Tode_I:   There's this:  http://linuxsynths.com/DexedPatchesDemos/dexed.html
[19:17] <mrz80> There's also a DX emulator for Bristol:  http://bristol.sourceforge.net/dx.html
[19:17] <mrz80> Dunno how close either comes to actually "being" a DX7, but I think Dexed can import DX7 patches
[19:33] <OvenWerks> hexter is ok too.
[20:39] <wonko> Ugh
[20:40] <wonko> DroneBL blocked my from freenode. yay. :)
[20:41] <wonko> OvenWerks: So, jackd still crashing without using the webcam mic (no zita-a2j)