[12:50] <ColonelPanic001> Came in this morning, put laptop on dock, external monitors no longer get detected
[12:50] <ColonelPanic001> all I've done recently is rotate the left monitor
[12:50] <rick_h> oops
[12:50] <ColonelPanic001> so my question is how fast does a car have to be going to ensure death when I jump in front of it?
[12:50] <ColonelPanic001> I can't use just one monitor like a barbarian
[12:51] <ColonelPanic001> I plugged an HDMI monitor in directly to the laptop, works fine
[12:51] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:02] <_stink_> did you reboot
[13:02]  * _stink_ ducks
[13:07] <ColonelPanic001> _stink_: several times
[13:09] <ColonelPanic001> on the bright side, just was reminded I have xpilot installed
[13:26] <jrwren> linux is for servers. :p
[13:26]  * jrwren ducks.
[13:48] <dzho> servers are for the internet
[13:48] <dzho> the internet is for porn
[13:48] <dzho> therefor linux is for porn
[13:48] <dzho> thank you for coming to my ted talk
[14:06] <ColonelPanic001> thanks now I'm fired
[14:07] <ColonelPanic001> I nwo have three monitors on another dock, but my computer thinks there's four. There are not.
[14:07] <ColonelPanic001> One of our interns has declared it the dead spirit of a destroyed monitor of the past
[14:24] <_stink_> ColonelPanic001++
[14:55] <jrwren> https://streaming.media.ccc.de/asg2019/relive/164  systemd-homed... because... systemd all the things. who needs /etc/passwd. LUL
[15:07] <jrwren> very cool. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/175/wikipedia_s_javascript_initialisation_on_a_budget/
[15:14] <cmaloney> Why the fuck are they screwing with home directories?
[15:14] <cmaloney> JFC stop making Systemd an OS
[15:20] <jrwren> I knew you'd love it cmaloney
[15:20] <jrwren> after DNS/resolver, I couldn't guess what systemd would do next, and I didn't.
[15:20] <jrwren> So what is next after this? I still can't imagine.
[15:20] <cmaloney> I mean, if there was actual pain in there then I'd totally get it. Change it up.
[15:20] <cmaloney> But now it's just feature creep
[15:20] <jrwren> autofs maybe?
[15:20] <jrwren> it must be an actual pain for someone.
[15:21] <cmaloney> Who? People who hate knowing what is in their directory?
[15:21] <jrwren> rw /etc. I think the goal is to run with ro /etc
[15:24] <cmaloney> I think the goal is to remake the registry, poorly
[15:25] <cmaloney> That was one thing that I didn't like about commercial UNIX was having to use special commands to admin things
[15:25] <cmaloney> and we're re-making those mistakes
[15:26] <jrwren> gconfd?
[15:27] <jrwren> we've had linux xml registry for 15yrs, haven't we?
[15:28] <cmaloney> Yes, and I'm still a bit salty about that
[15:30] <cmaloney> I mean, some of the alernatives are "not great" either
[15:31] <cmaloney> XML is terrible, and json / yaml weren't in vogue when the decision was made. Sailfish / Metacity used Lisp for configuration, which is always great to have a turing complete config.
[15:58] <greg-g> awww, the rant on systemd overtook jrwren's other link which one of my sub-teams published :)
[15:59] <greg-g> but: .ini dotfiles for ever :P
[17:05] <cmaloney> Yeah yeah, javascript simplification. Whee.
[17:06] <cmaloney> (I'm kidding. That's actually pretty sweet)
[17:51] <greg-g> :P