[00:30] Looks like avahi is running and configured. How can I make Chrome use it's name resolution? [00:46] find /sys/kernel/iommu_groups/ -type l -- this is empty for me - how can i fix this? [00:47] What's the most straightforward way to forward localhost:443 to localhost:8000. Use iptables? [00:48] k18e, man ssh might help? you just need port forwarding [00:49] cgi: I don't want to do tunneling [00:51] Im having a problem with a find command. I want to find and tar files matching 3 possible names. Right now this: find /mnt/pool1/production/data/some-dir/PW15000/01 -name 'DarkShort01*' -o -name 'GrayLevel0[0-9]_Orange*' -o -name 'Saturation01_Orange*' -exec tar -rvf sequel-pw150 {} \; is only taring files that match the third name pattern [00:52] when I just do the find, it seems to find all of them [00:53] akem__, I believe I found out what was causing my firefox to lag in my fluxbox start up script -- it was ibus-daemon [00:58] oh wait. I needed backticks instead of -exect.. I think [01:00] Has anyone done a pci passthru for a vm on ubuntu? === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:49] Hello. Looking for help with weirdness. Running 18.04. X and Gnome are all messed up, even though I've changed *nothing*. GDM login is just a blank purple screen. Logged in via C-A-F2 term, ran startx and (after removing .Xauthority*) got into a unconfigured, plain -vanilla Gnome with a mousepad that isn't always obeyed. [01:56] I'd like to get my configured Gnome back, and the GDM login would be nice too Any ideas? [01:57] Anyone here have any experience with Thinlinc? (basically a glorified vnc through ssh tunnel) [02:02] tubal: were you running startx as root there? [02:03] @tomreyn: No, as user. [02:04] have you checked the logs to get a better idea as to why gdm doesn't start up porperly? [02:04] have you checked which software updates (maybe something from a third party?) were recently installed? [02:04] bane: sorry, it's not supported here. Try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux [02:05] tubal: system logs, including gdm 's X: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [02:05] tomreyn: No, but only because I'm not sure what to look for, vis-a-vis logs. [02:06] tubal: installed software updates: tail -n 100 /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999 [02:07] leftyfb: sigh, figured that was the response i'd get *sadface [02:08] tomreyn: Thanks, those particular commands are new to me. ... [02:09] tubal: glad i could help. [02:09] tomreyn: https://termbin.com/5av0 https://termbin.com/fwoa [02:10] you have "acpi_osi= " set in /etc/default/grub, this will have no effect. [02:11] lol i finally got it all working tomreyn [02:11] tomreyn: Yes, I know. Been there for quite some time. [02:12] had to buy bigger drives, clonezilla, then clonezilla put the tiniest partition right in the middle of my disk so i had to live boot gparted and expand it all out [02:14] tubal: the first log is cut off, so i don't see the X init. you could repost it using pastebinit. [02:14] !pastebinit [02:14] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit [02:16] tubal: a kernel and systemd update was installed today / yesterday (depending on where you are), [02:17] tomreyn: But that ought not to upset X/GDM/Gnome ? [02:17] Mibix: congratulations! :) [02:18] tomreyn: pastebinit did not work. Timed out. So hang on... [02:18] tubal: well graphics drivers are kernel modules, they get updated when the kernel does. [02:18] systemd has a great impact on how things get loaded during boot [02:20] Sure, but effing up tings? [02:20] downstream things* [02:21] not usually. [02:21] tomreyn: hell. pastebin limit. [02:22] journalctl -k is just kernel logs, less to paste [02:22] but check the last lines of journalctl -eb since there could be recurring errors. [02:23] -k http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/srF6dk9PDV/ [02:24] tomreyn: Tis occurred yesterday, I should add. [02:27] i see, was wondering this [02:28] tomreyn: Wait... the 17th, in fact. [02:29] so before you applied those upgrades [02:29] there is a bios update available for your "NV47H" system at http://www.gateway.com/gw/en/AU/content/drivers-downloads [02:30] you have BIOS V2.10 08/25/2011 [02:30] there is v2.15 11.4 MB 2012/01/16 [02:30] (also a newer one but wiuth a lower version number, which i don't understand.) [02:31] tubal: any last words? i need sleep [02:31] tomreyn: Last word Thanks. [02:33] direct download URLs for the firmware updates: http://www.gateway.com/wjws/ws/gdp/files/en/AU/-/latest/bios/3517/-?cross=false (near the bottom) [02:33] good luck, see you. === gry_ is now known as gry [03:40] hello, ubuntu's 'sudo' preserves HOME due to this custom patch: debian/patches/keep_home_by_default.patch. What's the rational for differing from upstream? Isn't there a valid reason for not preserving HOME out of the box (and allowing to do so by using the -E flag of sudo) ? Do you think I should open a ticket about it on launchpad? [03:48] hi all, the backup icon (safetybox)is missing on system folder,but deja dup is installed,hmm? [03:48] deja dup can be launched but settings are nowhere to edit.pls help [04:02] im using a ubuntu live usb, and theres packages that are listed as existing online in the repo that cannot be found. am i missing something? im trying to reflash coreboot right now and the absence of an easy way to install gnat is really tearing at me https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gnat it says it exists here [04:05] !info gnat bionic [04:05] gnat (source: gnat): GNU Ada compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 7ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 9 kB [04:06] ebisu: ^^ in the Universe Repo; ensure that the universe repo is enabled. [04:06] what do i put in my sources.list [04:06] do i just append universe [04:06] to all the lines [04:07] sorry for my dumb questions, ive been using slackware for so long that i forget how to use easy distros [04:07] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [04:17] ebisu: check ' /etc/apt/sources.list ' file to see if the universe repo is enabled. If bot there is the GUI or the terminal way to enable. [04:21] i got it [04:22] thank you Bashing-om [04:24] ebisu: For my info..what release is this and was universe not enabled by default ? [04:26] this is the current LTS [04:27] this is on the livecd [04:27] ubuntu is the only thing i can get to boot on this grub payload, im compiling coreboot again with seabios [04:29] ebisu: Sounds heavy duty - universe repo ? [04:29] its not enabled by default [04:29] it seems [04:29] i enabled it and i installed what i needed [04:30] ebisu: I kinda thought I recalled as such - nice to have the confirmation, thanks. [05:43] can i request deja dup support here? [05:48] yelowfish: Ask - I use it. [05:48] elias_a, i cant access the settings [05:49] the safebox icon is nowhere [05:49] it just loads then it says its done backuping [05:50] yelowfish: Which Ubuntu version? [05:50] 16.04 [05:52] yelowfish: I don't recall how the desktop manager worked in 16.04 anymore. Is your problem that you can not start the program manually? [05:53] yes,i have to start it using app grid [05:54] when i type backup or deja in search your computer it wont show,but it shows when i open app grid [05:55] will i conflict if kbackup is installed? [05:55] will it conflict if kbackup is installed? [05:58] yelowfish: Could you try to start it using terminal? [05:58] yelowfish: Just type deja-dup. [06:00] it just goes : preping backing up,verifying,done. after typing deja-dup --backup [06:03] yelowfish: The --backup switch starts the backup process. Start it without it with just deja-dup. [06:04] if i only type deja-dup it will only show the options [06:04] it says u must specify a mode [06:10] I'm trying to ssh to my own computer using a keyfile and I get an error: Permission Denied (publickey) [06:10] Can anyone help me figure out how to get this to work? I've tried suggestion online and nothing seems to be working. [06:11] yelowfish: I think it must be version dependent. Also - I have to go now. Sorry. [06:12] tnx man! no prob [06:13] ls [06:13] oops lol. [06:16] amazoniantoad: what's in your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys? check your sshd log too, ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/authorized_keys need to be 700 and 600 respectively or sshd won't look at them [06:23] Triffid_Hunter, Your right it is a permissions issue. authorized_keys is set to 644 [06:23] Triffid_Hunter, log says it's a permissions file on authorized_keys still though [06:24] amazoniantoad: if you're trying to ssh in as a different user, check *their* authorized_keys permissions [06:24] Triffid_Hunter, I'm trying to ssh in as the same user [06:25] wait [06:25] hm...it just worked. I left user@ off by accident and it wasn't working because of that [06:25] If you leave that off does it default to root? [06:26] it defaults to your local username [06:26] amazoniantoad: no, it defaults to the username of the account you're sshing from === im0nde_ is now known as im0nde1 [07:07] How do I get a list of my HDDs in a tree? I want to know which HDD is connected to which controller. [07:07] maybe lsblk can print this information. [07:33] k_sze: lshw perhaps [07:41] lsblk should help get you the info [07:41] lshw -class disk -class storage [07:42] lshw's man page suggests this is how you list all controllers. [07:42] that one-liner is copy-pasted from the man page so it could potentially have more features, i didn't read the whole thing. [08:05] when running `apt-get update` in which file is the result stored? Just curious [08:10] TvL2386: /var/lib/apt/lists/ [08:51] hello [08:51] welcome TheWild [08:51] how can we help you today? [08:51] hey, I just noticed weird stuff on portable HDD I bought maybe two weeks ago? [08:51] on powering down (udisksctl power-off /dev/sdb) [08:51] [141374.249667] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Synchronizing SCSI cache [08:51] [141374.494340] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Synchronize Cache(10) failed: Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK [08:51] is this something I should be afraid of or just little software bug? [08:52] TheWild: could you start a: journalctl -f and plugin your portable HD and pastebin us the full output please? [08:54] !paste | TheWild [08:54] TheWild: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:55] hi, I cant lock the function key in ubuntu. I can in windows with fn+lock. would this be a deiver issue? [08:55] fn+esc, I mean [08:55] well... maybe later. I got pissed off and reading every sector of this HDD. It's 2 TB and at the moment it's at [08:55] sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null status=progress [08:55] 782923842048 bytes (783 GB, 729 GiB) copied, 6609 s, 118 MB/s [08:56] TheWild: its really important to know if the journal logs also spit out IO errors for example.. [08:56] does anyone use the 'parallel space' android app? i wondered if its secure or not [08:57] mystic: this is ubuntu support see !alis to find proper channels you seek for [08:57] ok thanks.. had problems finding an android room [09:10] Im so tired of seeing this error [09:10] fallenour: start with the beginning & the details please? [09:32] hey, I'm trying to log in to launchpad, but haven't done so in years and with the change to Ubuntu One, it asks for personal data and then gives me an error. I sent an e-mail to login-support@canonical.com, but haven't got a reply for days.. anyone know if there's something else I could do? [09:37] dreugeworst: hey, you can pop into #canonical-sysadmin and ask whoever is in the topic for help; chances are good they'll want you to file an rt by emailing rt@ubuntu.com [09:37] sarnold: thanks, will do [09:45] Inside the LXD preseed yaml file, how do I configure LXD to use a previously existing Ceph Cluster? [09:46] whtas the proper way to use the lxc storage set command? [09:46] im getting a wide range of area of issues to the point to where Im at the point to ripping out over 60 ubuntu servers and just installing windows and azure, im starting to get really sick of this. [09:47] when its starting to telling me that the directory that im currently sitting in isnt a directory and it cant find it, thats when I really start to get fed up. [09:47] wow, im so mad right now I cant english [09:48] fallenour: no reason to get mad, volunteers will try to help you, if you ask things systematicly..are you seeking support for ubuntud esktop or server? [09:49] at this point, I think angry is a little reasonable. Ive been working on this for 3 YEARS [09:49] 3 years ive had various issues with the same 7 technologies [09:49] fallenour: but this isnt the complaints channel.. [09:49] oh I know, but its a lot better than punching a monitor, so points. [09:50] But yes, the issue is lxd is stating that a directory isnt a directory [09:50] while im sitting in said directory [09:50] fallenour: are you on ubuntu desktop or server? [09:51] the other more complex issue, or at least I hope it is, is that I cant get lxd init to configure to use ceph, even after Ive manually transfered over teh ceph.client.admin.keyring to the server, and put it on the server, in the /etc/ceph directory, which it says doesnt exist. which it does. [09:51] ubuntu 16.04 LTS, lxd 3.0.X Snap, current install of ceph [09:51] desktop or server? [09:51] server [09:52] fallenour: come join to #ubuntu-server please, likeminded volunteers might be able to help there [09:57] If I remove a PPA (that upgraded a package), shouldn't the package request to be downgraded after an `apt update`? [09:57] no [09:57] apt will only offer to upgrade it when there's a newer version available in your remaining sources [09:58] adrian_1908: the ppa-purge package provides a tool that will also remove packages provided by a ppa. I don't know if it will do a downgrade or just uninstall, but it's a good starting point [09:59] I see. I assumed packages would try to revert when their origin repo is no longer taken into account. [10:19] hello, how can i know cpu on ubuntu? [10:21] hello, how to change locale on server ubuntu 18.04? I've tried `sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales`, tried `sudo update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8`. Even `cat /etc/default/locale` shows desired 'en_US.UTF-8', but `env | grep LC_` still shows 'ru_RU.UTF-8' for all of the locales even after restarting the shell [10:22] dollarWoman: cat /proc/cpuinfo [10:23] sarnold, thanks but how about cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "cpu name" [10:23] my Ubuntu 18.04.2 instance won't detect my DVD in my DVD drive on my desktop, does anyone know what might be wrong? [10:23] it used to work, i know it [10:23] pomeha: restarting the shell won't suffice, you need to log in again for it to take effect [10:24] geirha: that's what I did (the shell is over ssh) [10:24] brendantcc: update your system to 18.04.3 first perhaps? [10:24] trying to reboot, to make sure [10:24] !uptodate | brendantcc [10:24] brendantcc: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. [10:24] funny, i just came out of an update haha [10:25] neofetch shows that i'm on 18.04.3 [10:25] brendantcc: why did you post .2 then? [10:25] i didnt check the ver til just then [10:25] sorry [10:25] !dvd | brendantcc did you try this? [10:25] brendantcc did you try this?: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [10:25] geirha: nope, still ru_RU [10:25] pomeha: then perhaps your .profile or /etc/profile is overriding it [10:26] launching web browser now [10:26] geirha: no and no [10:27] pomeha: see what you get from ssh thehost env | grep -e LANG -e LC_ [10:27] lotuspsychje: thing is, it's not even showing the icon on my desktop [10:27] it definitely used to [10:27] geirha: I have no problem with LANG (it's en_US), but the rest is ru_RU [10:28] pomeha: and do the LC_*=ru_RU* entries show up with that ssh|grep above? [10:28] yes [10:28] it's already installed :/ [10:29] pomeha: ok, then check /etc/environment and ~/.pam_environment [10:29] what command can I run as sudo to find out who owns a file? [10:29] fallenour, ls -al, stat [10:29] geirha: checked, it's clean, and the 2nd doesn't exist [10:30] pomeha: oh hang on, ssh passes on LC_* variables from the client side [10:30] geirha: hol up [10:31] geirha: goddamit, you are right! [10:31] damn, should've installed gitlab from tty instead of ssh :/ [10:31] whelp... at least i have windows dualbooted on this machine.. will have another look in the morning AEST. thanks anyway lotuspsychje! :) [10:32] brendantcc: does 'eject' work from terminal? [10:33] whta comand can I run to make an entire directory completely open to anyone to use, and any account? [10:33] fallenour, use? read? write? remove files? [10:33] I want this folder so exposed a pidgeon from New York could access it if it landed on a cellphone [10:33] everything [10:33] fallenour, 777 is a good start; but it tends to be a bad idea [10:33] chmod 1777 /the/dir [10:33] same as /tmp [10:33] the whole folder, and all files [10:33] lotuspsychje: ya just missed the chance... just booted into windows [10:34] geirha, 777 is more open :> [10:34] so chmod -R 1777 /the/dir ? [10:34] fallenour: no, don't do that [10:34] will it make it completely readable? [10:34] it will make it a disaster zone [10:34] well thats unfortunate [10:35] but at this point its all I can do because its built so poorly [10:35] let users decide who gets write access to the files they create [10:35] fallenour: it'll make it _too_ readable [10:37] obviously not readable enough [10:37] its still failing [10:37] fallenour, what is built so poorly? [10:37] At this point, Ubuntu server itself [10:37] it cant read a file or folders with 1777 -R set to the whole folder [10:37] at this point, im at a complete loss [10:37] you never use 777 or 1777 with -R ... EVER [10:38] words cannot describe my disappointment [10:38] You never use 777 [10:38] if the filesystem is fat or ntfs, chmod won't do anything, because they don't support unix permissions [10:38] fallenour, your disappointment is, most likely, a result of confusion, not of some failure of 'ubuntu server' [10:39] fallenour, can you tell us more about the issue? [10:39] 777 == readable by literally everything == mega security risk [10:39] yea I know [10:39] brendantcc, writable is the worse part [10:39] to my entire ceph cluster stack [10:39] but Ive had repeated issues with being able to read, and quite frankly im tired of it [10:39] Habbie: definitely [10:40] Im at the point to where im forced to take extreme risks to even begin to troubleshoot read/write permissions, something so basic its unfathomable that any OS would have issues with such a concept, and yet, even with the MOST DANGEROUS SETTING in the WORLD to a FS, it STILL cant read it. [10:41] lotuspsychje: annoyed to report that I may have to open my machine up and check the connection between the optical drive & motherboard [10:41] fallenour: so start by giving us some details we can work with. For example, what filesystem is it? [10:41] fallenour, please stop shouting; nothing you are saying makes sense; you are doing something wrong but you are not helping us figure out what it is [10:41] Its ubuntu 16.04 LTS, server, up to date with patches, installed with last nights image [10:41] all of my images pull from MaaS [10:41] LXD is snap, latest, installed yesterday. [10:42] so it's a remote fs? [10:42] im running as Root [10:42] its sitting about 2 feet behind me [10:42] Who wants to start betting .txt files that my laptop's optical drive will fail me as well :} [10:42] s/}/p [10:42] Is it ubuntu? [10:42] server* [10:42] My desktop? Laptop? [10:43] because Ill take that bet. I cant write lxc errors to txt file on this server in specific directories, even as root, so ill take that bet. [10:43] hi, how can I flush the damn DNS cache of my Ubuntu 16.04? When I type "dig example.com", the server used is 127.0.1.1, and will keep on returning old cached info [10:43] I even restarted the OS, nothing changes [10:44] deployment stack goes as follows: MaaS > Juju > Juju deployment of: Ceph-Mon, Ceph-OSD, LXD, 3 Ceph-Mon, HA Pair, Ceph-Mon 4 nodes, all synced, all green in Juju, network is pingable, and reachable, flat /24 network atm. [10:44] Juju controller itself is in HA mode. [10:45] servers are dell brand, 6 drive systems, 5 OSDs per system, controlled baremetal via physical interaction, MaaS, and iDrac. [10:45] xebra, i don't think the IP of example.com has changed in a while [10:46] fallenour: some of that info might help later, but still doesn't tell us what filesystem that dir you need to make world writable is on [10:46] hey guys, i added this repo but i can't install ukuu with apt. what could be wrong ? https://launchpad.net/~teejee2008/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [10:46] its ubuntu 16.04LTS server, said that above [10:46] that's the operating system [10:46] The rest describes everything else about the environment. [10:46] yes [10:47] its a completely standard default kernel, default install from MaaS [10:47] ok, can't help you then. Not familiar with those technologies [10:47] its as if you downloaded Ubuntu 16.04LTS server right now directly from Canonical [10:47] Thats how its set up. [10:48] fallenour, what is, according to 'mount', the filesystem for the directory that is giving you trouble? [10:48] Habbie, that was an example, I actually need to look up milfsfuckwithhorses.com, but it's not appropriate to write it here [10:48] xebra, sigh [10:48] the problem is the cache, not the domain of course [10:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V5V4shMYC2/ [10:49] fallenour, so, which line? [10:49] does anyone know how to disable the windows OS bootmanager at startup ? because when i want to use ubuntu i always have to press Escape button to go into the boot options and then i have to select F9 ubuntu and after that i get the grub bootloader.... [10:49] windows isn't installed anymore i have installed ubuntu on the full hardisk [10:50] also in the bios i already changed the boot priority but that doesn't help [10:50] depends on which one you are asking about, which is why I provided them all. Sysfs, lxcfs, etc, all have their own settings [10:50] my laptop is HP envy [10:50] Good news: turns out it was only a SATA cable that I unplugged and forgot to reconnect last time I opened it up [10:51] Bad news: I hauled my PC over to my bed to deal with it, and it's heavy as hell... let's hope i don't drop it putting it back into its spot on my desk [10:52] Hey folks [10:52] Habbie, anyway, I just solved the problem with: sudo service network-manager restart [10:53] it's weird that even after a reboot, the problem was still there [10:53] Hi, I have installed the package `vlc-plugin-bittorrent` and I would like to know which port range I have to open with iptables [10:54] xebra, all of this sounds like you wanted fresh data while the old data had not in fact expired yet [10:54] xebra, but it's hard to tell [10:56] how do I install lxd without snap? [10:56] I want to rip snap entirely out of my system and out of all of my processes [10:56] NOW THE HARD DRIVE CABLE IS LOOSE REALLLYYYYYY [11:02] lotuspsychje: plugging in, doing 'udisksctl power-off', unplugging: https://kopy.io/hh0bF [11:03] all sectors are fine [11:03] Is it possible to deny any other programs to adjust pulse audio volume than the gnome volume slider? [11:05] my volume slider wildly dances around causing pulse audio to crackle [11:06] I think my hard drive may have died on me [11:06] fallenour: which ubuntu version are you running there? [11:06] and which desktop [11:07] Or the bios decided to play funny buggers and prioritize the optical drive over the HDD partitiond [11:07] *partitions [11:08] brendantcc: smartctl (package smartmontools) can give you a (sometimes rough) estimate of your disk health [11:09] It's alright tomreyn, I checked the bios on the second boot haha [11:10] I tend to freak out over nothing.. sorry about that :/ [11:11] BTW curious, is there a command I can send in the shell to close the drive? [11:13] "close the drive"? is it a cdrom? [11:13] or do you mean "cloNe"? [11:14] CloSe [11:14] I had one bad 500 HDD with migrating bad sectors. It started about two years ago. One day bad area is somewhere at the end of disk, month later its fine but bad area is now somewhere in the middle of the disk. Another day it works fine in continuous read, but random accesses barely go above 1 MB/s. Did zeroing all the sectors - it started playing 'nails on blackboard' around 265th GB, but worked fine past that. [11:14] Saved 200 GB on it - no errors reported. Compared with the source and again found out that some files cannot be read. [11:14] Killed it with a strong magnet and a fist. [11:15] it was already 7 years old so waaay past the warranty [11:17] brendantcc: i haven't read what you discussed here before, so maybe that's why i'm lacking context. i don't see a way to "close" a disk drive, like a HDD or SSD, since they will break when physically opened. [11:17] maybe what you're referring to is mounting file systems? [11:25] ok [11:26] ok [11:26] Im cool [11:26] today is a great day, and all my people in #ubuntu are awesome peps [11:26] Not gonna let ubuntu rain on my day. [11:26] Ive stopped apparmor, Ive set Chmod -R 1777 to the folder [11:27] I can create ceph pools with the same user permissions or lower user permissions of that of what im running /snap/bin/init with [11:27] I can confirm the pool is there [11:27] but I cant get lxc to see it [11:27] how do I just force lxc to use it, bypassing init entirely [11:28] brendantcc, maybe you want to "sync" then "unmount /path/to/mountpoint" and spindown/standby with "hdparm -y /dev/sdX" disk X=a,b,c... as root? [11:31] *umount [11:39] `libpam-usb` has it been replaced by the `libpam-u2f` package? [11:47] gst568923: it doesn't seem like it was directly replaced by it, no. but pamusb has been dropped for lack of maintenance. [11:48] ./join #lxd [11:51] fallenour: fail, but I can relate. [11:51] tahts just been my whole day so far it seems [11:52] I just cant get this to work, nobody can it seems [11:52] Ive even tried primary nodes [11:52] its just not working [11:52] I really wish ubuntu would stop trying to force snaps. I dont like them, and they cause so many outages and failures. [11:53] !discuss | fallenour [11:53] fallenour: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [11:53] wait, you can pipe things here o.O [11:53] that didnt work 8( [11:53] !discuss [11:53] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [11:54] mmm [11:54] tomreyn to replace the password entry, for example for the sudo command, with the physical token to use the `libpam-u2f` package? [11:54] fallenour: you need to divide ubuntu support, server support and discussions into the right channels [11:55] gst568923: it may be an effective replacement (i actually don't know either package, so don't expect much help from me there), i'm just saying it's not set up as a migration target. [11:55] hello, I just moved my root/boot partition from sdb1 to sda1, and everything seems to work OK, but for some reason Ping does not: ping: socket: Operation not permitted [11:56] that is structurally, with a transitional package, from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 [11:56] I checked on the sdb1 installation, and it has the same perms there as on the sda1 (I replicated with rsync --archive) [11:57] CQ: how did you move your data? [11:57] tomreyn, booted into a live distro, mounted on /drive1 and /drive2, and then rsync'ed over [11:58] Then grub update as in https://askubuntu.com/questions/3402/how-to-move-boot-and-root-partitions-to-another-drive [11:58] compare the output of ls -l /bin/ping on both source and destination [11:58] both are 755 [11:58] are both +s, too? [11:59] where do i see the +s? I see rwxr-xr-x ... [11:59] -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 64424 Jun 28 13:05 /bin/ping [11:59] i'm on 18.04 LTS, where the ping command is suid root [12:00] what are you running there? [12:00] 19.04 updated from 18.04 LTS [12:00] and it's not suid root on either source or destination? [12:01] nope [12:01] oh right, looks like it changed between 18.04 and 19.04, nice. [12:01] this is /bin/ping, I just reinstalled iputils-ping, no change [12:03] i confirmed that i's not +s on 19.04 by booting into a 19.04 VM, so your system is fine there. [12:03] but on this 19.04 system i can run ping as a restricted user account fine [12:05] CQ: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37512291/how-is-ping-for-non-root-user-implemented-on-linux-distros/37518095#37518095 [12:05] tomreyn, on the old system it worked as well... I would way its a group issue or something like that, but since I rsynced everything over, nothing should have changed [12:05] i assume those extended file attrributes were lost when you were rsync'ing [12:07] compare command output on source and destination: getcap /bin/ping [12:08] did you rsync with -X ? [12:08] tomreyn, How the heck do you kniw this stuff? [12:08] did you rsync as root? [12:08] kniw=know [12:08] /mnt/drive1//bin/ping = cap_net_raw+ep (old installation) [12:08] Ascavasaion: ik don't, i just looked it up on the internet [12:08] /bin/ping = cap_net_raw+ep (new) [12:09] CQ: hmm, i guess that's not it then. [12:09] tomreyn, I mean in general. [12:10] I wouldn't mind just suid rooting it, I#m just worried that there are other gotchas waiting. [12:10] I have been comig here a long time and you have helped me on numerous occasions. [12:10] Ascavasaion, helping people for a long time, learning bit by bit [12:11] Ascavasaion: i appreciate your appreciation, let's talk more in -offtopic if you want to? [12:11] CQ: i think it should be working on the destination, i don't see why it doesn't, that's what we need to determine now. [12:11] libpam-u2f only works with the FIDO2 usb devices or also with a simple usb pendrive? [12:12] tomreyn, agreed [12:12] CQ: which means we need ot understand how those extended capabilities are setup [12:13] tomreyn: i meant optical drive [12:13] tomreyn, wtf? now it Just Works ... I did a $ /mnt/drive1//bin/ping 8.8.8.8 ...which worked, now the /bin/ping works too [12:14] this is just weird [12:15]