[01:44] <tomreyn> Shreddies: in case you're still there, tihs sounds like a potential acpi / mainboard firmware ('bios') issue which so far didn't trigger but triggers now due to some updates.
[01:46] <tomreyn> see if you have ACPI warnings / errors (other than "OSI Liunx ignored") or firmware bugs listed in    journalctl -b | grep -Ei 'ACPI|firmware'
[01:46] <tomreyn> your current firmware version and mainboard / laptop model is usually listed in    journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 @tomreyn, sep 22 13:47:27 wazapp-Lenovo-ideapad-330S-14IKB kernel: DMI: LENOVO 81F4/LNVNB161216, BIOS 7SCN34WW 06/10/2019
 @tomreyn, Used the on/off button in the end & an error came up when I boot now
[15:44] <jani_> The previous issues i had with 19.-10 daily release was solved by using 19.04 instead. = )
[15:46] <magic_ninja_work> jani_, well, to be fair, the daily release is for testing. Even on debian testing, graphics drivers break sometimes and it changes way less than ubuntu.
[15:47] <jani_> Can't say about those newer drivers, i was able to play Heroes of Newerth with those, just that monitor loose connection on log out etc.
[15:48] <magic_ninja_work> You should only move to testing for three reasons: 1) You are experienced and want to file bug reports / help test the upcoming release, 2) You are comfortable with breakage every now and then and want the newest stuff, 3) You are comfortable with breakage and you need new features (like me). I wanted the 435.21 beta drivers and the suspend --> hibernate feature in plasma beta 5.17. So I'm on double-beta double-risky business.
[22:09] <woodworkingcavem> I recently upgraded to 19.04 and now am unable to logoff using the Leave -> Logout button
[22:14] <bprompt> hmmm I'm running 16.04, runs smooth =)
[22:15] <woodworkingcavem> was working fine in 18.04
[22:56] <Mamarok> @woodworkingcavem works fine for me in 19.04, so might be specific to your system
[23:27] <mparillo> The first time after a big plasma upgrade, I sometimes need to systemctl reboot, but that is only once.