| tomreyn | ig uess we can just drop the fglrx references off this factoid then, right, OerHeks? | 01:08 |
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| tomreyn | !ati | 01:09 |
| ubot5 | Open driver for AMD cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2) fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units . For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD | 01:09 |
| OerHeks | i have no clue what the installer uses, the xserver-xorg-video-radeon package suggests compatibility | 01:11 |
| tomreyn | OerHeks: hmm, my point is about removing references to fglrx off this factoid. i don't see a reference to fglrx in the package description of dependencies of xserver-xorg-video-radeon. what am i getting wrong? | 01:13 |
| OerHeks | the card is listed as supported, but the last version was 12.04 that supported this | 01:14 |
| tomreyn | i'm not discussing any specific card | 01:14 |
| OerHeks | so, me confused too, that he got this far at all | 01:14 |
| OerHeks | yes, fglrx, for ati 2-4xxx | 01:14 |
| tomreyn | we're having a misunderstanding, i think. i'm suggesting to edit the factoid as this: | 01:18 |
| tomreyn | ati is Open source drivers for AMD/ATI graphics cards: amdgpu (cards >= GCN1.2 aka GCN 3rd gen), radeon (older cards). Closed source drivers: amdgpu-pro (>= GCN1.2). For info on GCN levels, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units | 01:18 |
| OerHeks | ah oke dropping: For fglrx info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD | 01:20 |
| tomreyn | as well as "fglrx (older cards, unsupported by AMD in 16.04+)", yes | 01:21 |
| tomreyn | OerHeks: you thnk that's fine? | 01:21 |
| OerHeks | yes, that would be correct. | 01:25 |
| OerHeks | just checking | 01:25 |
| OerHeks | debian says https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo -- xserver-xorg-video-ati | 01:27 |
| tomreyn | those are the 2d X drivers, yes. | 01:27 |
| tomreyn | This driver is actually a wrapper that loads one of the 'mach64', 'r128' or 'radeon' sub-drivers depending on the hardware. | 01:29 |
| OerHeks | that what happened in the installer, i guess | 01:29 |
| tomreyn | i don't know what you're referring to now, maybe i missed some chat in #ubuntu | 01:30 |
| OerHeks | he claimed he had an install screen | 01:30 |
| OerHeks | so he though the desktop would work | 01:31 |
| OerHeks | * after update | 01:31 |
| tomreyn | install screen as in he got graphical output when booting the installer? | 01:31 |
| OerHeks | yes? | 01:32 |
| OerHeks | that is what i make out of it. | 01:32 |
| tomreyn | it probably loaded the radeon module or fell back to vesa | 01:32 |
| tomreyn | from what i understood, TheSHAD0W is saying that they installed some version of ubuntu on this stone age computer and rebooted and it was fine, then installed updates, and then there were graphics issues. | 01:34 |
| tomreyn | (after another reboot, i guess) | 01:34 |
| tomreyn | so this could be due to a regression in the latest radeon module. or because it was using vesa until then. | 01:35 |
| tomreyn | radeon/4) on bionic lists HD 4250 | 01:37 |
| tomreyn | I meant to write: The radeon(4) man page on bionic lists HD 4250 (and RS880) | 01:38 |
| tomreyn | alias: pci:v00001002d00009712sv*sd*bc*sc*i* | 01:40 |
| tomreyn | ^ modinfo radeon on kernel 5.0 on bionic-hwe | 01:40 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 02:22 |
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| marcoagpinto | Heya! | 08:54 |
| marcoagpinto | brothers and sisters!!! | 08:54 |
| Talikka | what about mothers and grandfathers? happy with ubuntu and which flavour? | 10:06 |
| marcoagpinto | what? | 10:13 |
| Talikka | I struggle to select between mint or ubuntu something. This year, Ubuntu MATE has had extremely many bugs | 10:14 |
| jeremyb | I would doubt the Mint version would be any better | 10:14 |
| Talikka | Many doubt but most people I know who have installed Linux to elderly or beginner-level people have selected Linux Mint. At least in Finnish it has much more guides and help available than Ubuntu | 10:15 |
| jeremyb | Talikka: I am a moderator on forums.linuxmint.com Mint only has about a dozen devs | 10:17 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:55 |
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| marcoagpinto | guys?! Is anyone there?! | 12:51 |
| marcoagpinto | daftykins: are you still angry at me? :((((((( | 12:52 |
| marcoagpinto | BluesKaj!!!! Hello!!!!!!! | 14:01 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 14:01 |
| BluesKaj | hi marcoagpinto | 14:02 |
| marcoagpinto | dear beloved brother! | 14:03 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | let's not get carried away | 14:04 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh... right | 14:04 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | too much cola again eh? | 14:04 |
| marcoagpinto | no, I only had 1 litre | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | that's plenty | 14:04 |
| marcoagpinto | tomorrow I will buy more | 14:05 |
| BluesKaj | no doubt | 14:05 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto!!! | 16:37 |
| marcoagpinto | EoflaOE!!! | 16:37 |
| marcoagpinto | I did a stupid thing!!!! I sent an e-mail to 200+ people saying my status... and today a Professor phoned me worried | 16:37 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto: Worried about what? | 16:38 |
| marcoagpinto | the depression | 16:38 |
| marcoagpinto | I guess I can't tell the truth because people get worried | 16:38 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto: I understood. | 16:39 |
| marcoagpinto | What is wrong with this sentence?: "I can't put an end to life because I don't know what there is on the other side and my mission on Earth hasn't ended." | 16:39 |
| EoflaOE | That means that you keep doing your mission. I don't see the wrong thing | 16:42 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto: ^ | 16:45 |
| marcoagpinto | yes | 16:45 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto: OK. Are there no cola bottles left? | 16:46 |
| marcoagpinto | no.... zero | 16:47 |
| marcoagpinto | :( | 16:47 |
| EoflaOE | Let me grab a cup of water and come back | 16:47 |
| marcoagpinto | oki | 16:48 |
| EoflaOE | I am back. | 16:50 |
| marcoagpinto | welcome back | 16:50 |
| EoflaOE | Thanks | 16:51 |
| EoflaOE | Let me see some package updates for Ubuntu 19.10 Eoan. | 16:53 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 16:53 |
| EoflaOE | In my Ubuntu 19.10 VM, only 5 updates were made (gdisk, geoip-database, libgeoip1, libwmf0.2-7-gtk, and libwmf0.2-7) | 16:59 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:06 |
| marcoagpinto | I can hardly wiat for 20.04LTS | 17:07 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:07 |
| marcoagpinto | wait* | 17:07 |
| EoflaOE | Yes. But it will takeout 32-bit support except select packages | 17:08 |
| marcoagpinto | 32-bit should be removed from the planet | 17:09 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:09 |
| marcoagpinto | in the past I created also 32-bit versions of Proofing Tool GUI, but then Ubuntu 18.04 removed support and so did I | 17:09 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:09 |
| marcoagpinto | I no longer cared for 32-bit | 17:09 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto: Also, all my future PCs that I will buy will never be 32-bit. And my new Dell Optiplex 7060 which runs 64-bit too. | 17:11 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 17:11 |
| marcoagpinto | Microsoft did a terrible job in releasing laptops with quad-core Atom CPUs and 32-bit Windows | 17:12 |
| marcoagpinto | :( | 17:12 |
| EoflaOE | I know. Because I saw 32-bit versions of Windows 10 latest versions. | 17:13 |
| marcoagpinto | maybe they did it because they had only 2 GB? of RAM and it would use cycles from the SSD drive (virtual memory) | 17:13 |
| marcoagpinto | 10.1'' or so laptops | 17:14 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:15 |
| marcoagpinto | with eMMC drives or whatever it is called | 17:15 |
| EoflaOE | Might be. Before my purchase of my 64-bit Dell Optiplex, I visited my friend which is my neighbor to find that he has a HI-LIFE notebook. I think it runs 32-bit too. I even saw him playing legacy old 2000s action games like IGI 2. | 17:15 |
| marcoagpinto | ohhhhhh | 17:24 |
| marcoagpinto | sorry... I was reading the lyrics of the YouTube band the professor told me to | 17:24 |
| marcoagpinto | The Rasmus - in the shadows | 17:24 |
| marcoagpinto | it is so powerufl | 17:24 |
| marcoagpinto | powerful* | 17:24 |
| marcoagpinto | "I won't give up until I find the cure to this cancer" | 17:26 |
| marcoagpinto | something close | 17:27 |
| EoflaOE | It's OK. | 17:27 |
| marcoagpinto | EoflaOE: will someday Ubuntu support draging files from a folder to other using the right mouse button and have options, such as COPY/MOVE, just like Windows? | 17:31 |
| marcoagpinto | it would increase UX a lot | 17:31 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto: I don't know, but you may have to suggest this idea to GNOME developers so Debian will pick it up and then Ubuntu. | 17:33 |
| marcoagpinto | ohhhhhhh | 17:33 |
| marcoagpinto | :(((((((( | 17:33 |
| marcoagpinto | so many steps before Ubuntu? | 17:34 |
| marcoagpinto | I once installed Debian? Three or four .iso files of 4 GB each? | 17:34 |
| marcoagpinto | huge | 17:34 |
| EoflaOE | Yes. They also ship netinst. | 17:36 |
| EoflaOE | Now, I will take a bath, go to dinner, and go to bed. Goodbye marcoagpinto. | 17:37 |
| marcoagpinto | oki | 17:37 |
| marcoagpinto | take care | 17:37 |
| marcoagpinto | see you tomorrow | 17:37 |
| marcoagpinto | tomreyn seems to know a lot about computers!!! | 18:16 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 18:16 |
| marcoagpinto | more than I will ever know :) | 18:17 |
| tomreyn | what makes you think so? because i just configured on to powercycles itself while it was running, hen brought it up and had it kill itself twice? | 18:18 |
| tomreyn | what makes you think so? because i just configured one to powercycles itself while it is running, then brought it up twice and had it kill itself twice? | 18:19 |
| tomreyn | ^ typo galore | 18:19 |
| marcoagpinto | "I've been searching, I've been living, for tomorrows all my life" | 19:25 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 19:25 |
| kostkon | marcoagpinto, you are not making any sense (with that) but it's ok | 19:27 |
| marcoagpinto | kostkon: It is a song, but it fits me perfectly | 19:27 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 19:27 |
| marcoagpinto | I have been living for the future all over my life | 19:27 |
| kostkon | should've guessed | 19:27 |
| marcoagpinto | sometimes I look crazy... but I am always planning the future | 19:28 |
| marcoagpinto | I write and draw on paper my ideas, so that I can develop software or suggest improvements to other software | 19:29 |
| marcoagpinto | the number of pages is increasing and I can't implement all :) | 19:30 |
| marcoagpinto | around 20 persons are using my Proofing Tool GUI for dictionaries and such :) ... I was watching the download statistics | 19:33 |
| marcoagpinto | I have tons of ideas for its future... I just lack the time to implemtn | 19:33 |
| marcoagpinto | implement* | 19:33 |
| marcoagpinto | it even supports autocorrect for LibreOffice and OpenOffice | 19:34 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 19:34 |
| marcoagpinto | very useful | 19:34 |
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| OerHeks | grinn .. <B|ack0p> i plugged same card to different slot that s why i am having this problem i think | 21:19 |
| daftykins | o0 | 21:19 |
| OerHeks | really, one could smell this comming | 21:19 |
| * daftykins sniffs | 21:20 | |
| OerHeks | did you hear blue? | 21:20 |
| daftykins | not today :D | 21:20 |
| jeremyb | Must be a check to see if a wifi card is plugged into a wwan slot | 21:22 |
| OerHeks | how could one give support and find out about that.. | 21:23 |
| OerHeks | mentioning it at the end, like it is not important at all | 21:23 |
| daftykins | honestly, although i've seen them labelled on laptop boards... i don't know why they'd be any different | 21:27 |
| OerHeks | he switched from wifi to wwan, different antenna? | 21:28 |
| jeremyb | Thinkpads and Lenovo were bad about only allowing certain wifi cards to be used | 21:28 |
| OerHeks | or no antenna at all.. | 21:28 |
| OerHeks | jeremyb, that could well be, thinkpad t60 iirc | 21:29 |
| daftykins | yeah, whitelist and all that | 21:29 |
| daftykins | that aside, i wonder if they can't operate in each others slots - for antennae, they typically have spares there with plastic caps on if a machine didn't ship with a WWAN card | 21:30 |
| daftykins | ah well, not very important... pretty funny for someone to muck that up | 21:31 |
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