| Kumool | sup | 00:16 |
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| * Kumool nods | 00:16 | |
| swift110 | how are you? | 00:21 |
| Kumool | with a bit of a cold | 00:34 |
| Kumool | and you good sir/madam? | 00:34 |
| swift110 | Kumool, that stinks and I'm a guy | 01:12 |
| friendlyGoat | i've noticed my computer has been getting slower the longer i have it on lately and its been bothering me, i've tried to adjust my swappiness but its still happening. it typically happens if my computers on for 2 days or so and i'd like if it stopped getting slower the longer it was on. | 01:12 |
| friendlyGoat | anyone know how i'd go about fixing that? | 01:12 |
| swift110 | friendlyGoat, what are the specs of your machine? | 01:13 |
| friendlyGoat | lemme check | 01:13 |
| friendlyGoat | took a pic of my computer summary on hardinfo | 01:17 |
| friendlyGoat | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399860712261943296/625138496025395221/Screenshot_from_2019-09-21_20-16-41.png | 01:17 |
| swift110 | friendlyGoat, hmm it would help if you put an ssd into it | 01:18 |
| friendlyGoat | i dont have access to that unfortunately. | 01:18 |
| friendlyGoat | this didnt seem to be a problem before but i've noticed it happening the past few days. | 01:19 |
| Kumool | just one core? | 01:19 |
| swift110 | could be you are using more ram than normal | 01:19 |
| friendlyGoat | i think that could be the case due to firefox. i keep firefox open 99% of the time with a few tabs. | 01:19 |
| Kumool | did you run htop, vmstat, swapinfo? | 01:19 |
| Kumool | checked all of those? | 01:20 |
| friendlyGoat | going to, one sec. | 01:20 |
| friendlyGoat | will pastebin the results to you | 01:20 |
| Kumool | firefox memory leaks like crazy | 01:20 |
| friendlyGoat | gonna take a hot minute, gotta install those commands you recommended | 01:20 |
| friendlyGoat | also yeeeeah i think i saw that mentioned around before, i sure hope it aint a memory leak! | 01:20 |
| Kumool | dont htop, better ps -aux && vmstat && swapinfo | 01:20 |
| friendlyGoat | ahh alright gonna do that instead then | 01:20 |
| Kumool | don't worry, it probably is a memory leak, just restart firefox | 01:21 |
| swift110 | yeah thats cool | 01:21 |
| friendlyGoat | also if it helps at all my swappiness is 20 cause i've seen that recommended around and that seemed like it'd be a good fit for my 4GB of ram and 8GB of swap space. | 01:21 |
| Kumool | 1.10ghz is worse than a phone though, so firefox should be unbearable to use (I know, my laptop is almost 1.10) | 01:21 |
| swift110 | goodness | 01:22 |
| swift110 | I have worse laptops | 01:22 |
| swift110 | like I have a laptop from 2002 that has 200 mb ram | 01:22 |
| Kumool | :O | 01:22 |
| Kumool | holy crap dude | 01:22 |
| friendlyGoat | i got a big list of stuff running but under all of it it says swapinfo: command not found | 01:22 |
| Kumool | send that to a museum | 01:22 |
| friendlyGoat | also ooooo thats old! | 01:22 |
| friendlyGoat | i have some old computers here and there and one i run as a home server but i never checked its specs tbh | 01:23 |
| Kumool | yeah, swapinfo is a freebsd command, i got confused | 01:23 |
| friendlyGoat | lil old thing i bought from the school nearby for 10 bucks, its from 2004, i run some discord bots and host files on it + pihole. i love my old debian dino~ | 01:23 |
| friendlyGoat | runs with a CRT and everything under my desk | 01:23 |
| friendlyGoat | https://pastebin.com/bcU46LPn | 01:24 |
| friendlyGoat | results of the command you asked me to run | 01:24 |
| Kumool | swapon -s | 01:25 |
| Kumool | but just take a picture of htop | 01:25 |
| Kumool | much better | 01:25 |
| Kumool | there was a command that showed system info but i forgot it | 01:25 |
| swift110 | yeah | 01:26 |
| swift110 | I have been using an x60 as my daily driver for about 2 months now | 01:27 |
| Kumool | I've been using youtube-dl with mpv as a wrapper for all videos | 01:29 |
| friendlyGoat | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399860712261943296/625141649684693022/unknown.png | 01:29 |
| friendlyGoat | my htop results | 01:29 |
| Kumool | well, you are using a bit of swap | 01:31 |
| Kumool | swap, unless its ssd, will slow down your system | 01:31 |
| friendlyGoat | ahhh. my swappiness is set to 20, should i change that? | 01:32 |
| swift110 | oh cool | 01:33 |
| swift110 | yes friendlyGoat and close those tabs | 01:33 |
| Kumool | get one tab extension | 01:33 |
| Kumool | its a good one | 01:33 |
| Kumool | man... I hate browsers | 01:33 |
| Kumool | why arent there any good browsers | 01:34 |
| friendlyGoat | gonna look into it, and what do you think my swappiness should be? | 01:34 |
| Kumool | no clue! | 01:34 |
| Kumool | :) | 01:34 |
| friendlyGoat | ohh i think i know a good extension for this, there was one i used to have that locked tabs i wasnt using so they werent all loaded at once | 01:34 |
| Kumool | oh yeah | 01:35 |
| Kumool | get that | 01:35 |
| Kumool | managing firefox is a bit of a chore | 01:35 |
| friendlyGoat | i usually have open two email tabs, youtube, and twitter, twitter is the buggiest so that must reeeally be eating up my memory | 01:35 |
| Kumool | I always block javascript | 01:35 |
| Kumool | yeah | 01:35 |
| Kumool | I open twitter and immediately close it after | 01:35 |
| Kumool | I have bitlbee with a #twitter_user channel | 01:36 |
| swift110 | good idea Kumool | 01:36 |
| Kumool | so no need to open twitter | 01:36 |
| Kumool | and bitlbee is light | 01:36 |
| Kumool | use claws mail (or any really), and lower your security so you can use imap | 01:37 |
| Kumool | or hell, use your phone instead | 01:37 |
| Kumool | use mpv http://youtube.url/ instead of watching in browser | 01:37 |
| remline | Whoa, I just looked at the manual page for mpv. Longest man page ever! | 01:40 |
| Kumool | and uhh, that's all of my tricks to have a somewhat pleasant experience on a potato laptop | 01:40 |
| Kumool | yeah it has a lot of features | 01:40 |
| Kumool | but what you want is to configure youtube-dl so it loads the firefox cookies | 01:40 |
| remline | I didn't know it could take URLs directly, that is handy (my laptop is old and slow, too) | 01:40 |
| Kumool | and a --mark-watched | 01:41 |
| Kumool | https://bitbucket.org/lalalan/openurl/src/master/openurl.brc this is my wrapper for opening irc urls | 01:42 |
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| swift110 | back | 02:57 |
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| nikolam | I installed Eiciel to set ACL permissions (wanted users to r/w folder , not everyone) but I got installed 'nautilus' with it. | 08:41 |
| nikolam | Now when I click to open folder on right click on Firefox downloads, I get nautilus started instead of Thunar. | 08:42 |
| nikolam | any way to disable nautilus starting | 08:42 |
| nikolam | hm seems that one visit to "Preferred applications" in Xfce control panel fix it.. I'll see. | 08:44 |
| nikolam | Nope, it opens downloaded file in nautilus, instead of opening it in archive manager, for example.. | 08:45 |
| nikolam | for ta.gz downloaded in Firefox it opens it right into archiver, but .xz archive, instead to be opened in the archiver, opens as download location in nautilus | 08:46 |
| diogenes_ | nikolam, https://i.imgur.com/Z3DCufH.png | 08:50 |
| nikolam | diogenes_, good idea but I don't think it's about Firefox. It's set "always ask" for .xz, but it doesn't ask. I think nautilus forced itself to be default opener, somewhere else in the user profile | 09:00 |
| diogenes_ | nikolam, look in dconf-editor | 09:01 |
| diogenes_ | file-chooser or something. | 09:02 |
| nikolam | I uninstalled nautilus and it is now. Seems that nautilus and it's addons are actualy not needed for eiciel to work | 09:05 |
| nikolam | ok | 09:06 |
| nikolam | but I solved ACL on folder for users with " sudo setfacl -m "g:users:rw" /share " , anyway | 09:06 |
| nikolam | but I still don't get right permissiond on /share forlder as member of "users" group.maybe after logoff/logon. | 09:07 |
| jarnos | I wonder, if Gnome keyring does work with chromium-browser in Xubuntu (18.04)? Reference: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/483522/111181 | 12:33 |
| jarnos | Anyway, if I do automatic login, some password is asked (first time) unless I use --password-store=basic. | 12:34 |
| jarnos | But is it normal that chromium-browser changes '~/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data' even if '--password-store=basic' is not used in Xubuntu? | 12:36 |
| swift110 | good morning | 13:25 |
| svargas | Hi guys, I'm trouble with a keyboard layouts on Xubuntu 18.04. If I use multiple keyboard layouts and switch between them default keyboard shortcuts don't work in vs code e.g., copy line down -- shift + control + alt + down arrow. When only using the system layout shortcuts work fine. I suspect there may be a limit on the number of key combinations permitted with input mode. Any ideas how to get this working? Many thanks | 14:22 |
| svargas | + I've just tested this. Through xfce4-keyboard-settings -- using multiple keyboard layouts the maximum keys in combination is 3, using the system layout has no limitation | 14:24 |
| Kumool | use the system layout then | 14:28 |
| svargas | thanks @Kumul. Yes, that's what I'm doing at the moment but it isn't ideal as I need other layout to type in other (human) languages | 14:31 |
| Kumool | svargas: this is in my ~/.xprofile setxkbmap -model latitude -layout us,us -variant dvorak-alt-intl,intl -option grp:shift_caps_toggle,grp_led:num,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp | 14:47 |
| Kumool | shift_caps_toggle works well enough | 14:47 |
| Kumool | but I don't have a complicated setup | 14:47 |
| Kumool | atm i switched from xfce though | 14:47 |
| svargas | thanks for that. I'll give it a try | 14:47 |
| Kumool | you just need to add more layouts and variants, and change the model to your specific keyboard | 14:57 |
| Kumool | select system on keyboard settings | 14:58 |
| svargas | Thanks. That's how I had it configured. With more layouts I get the problem of only combinations of 3 keys working. I have to go back to the system keyboard layout to make key combinations of 4 or more to work | 15:01 |
| svargas | I've been having to change to system layout when I need to change languages which isn't ideal | 15:02 |
| Kumool | what languages? | 15:05 |
| Kumool | usually intl is enough for tildes and so on | 15:05 |
| Kumool | unless you gotta deal with asian languages | 15:05 |
| Kumool | Anyway, i've never gone farther than that, hopefully someone else can help you | 15:06 |
| recon_dsk | fuck EFI !!!!! | 18:23 |
| recon_dsk | well, fuck this, back to square one and refucking install | 18:33 |
| recon_dsk | more and more windows like every year | 18:34 |
| recon_dsk | got a problem, reinstall | 18:35 |
| lenzeor | I have a question: | 20:54 |
| lenzeor | Why the mouse? | 20:54 |
| gnrp | lenzeor: Guess you have to ask that more in the #xfce channel? | 20:56 |
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