[00:16] <Kumool> sup
[00:16]  * Kumool nods
[00:21] <swift110> how are you?
[00:34] <Kumool> with a bit of a cold
[00:34] <Kumool> and you good sir/madam?
[01:12] <swift110> Kumool, that stinks and I'm a guy
[01:12] <friendlyGoat> i've noticed my computer has been getting slower the longer i have it on lately and its been bothering me, i've tried to adjust my swappiness but its still happening. it typically happens if my computers on for 2 days or so and i'd like if it stopped getting slower the longer it was on.
[01:12] <friendlyGoat> anyone know how i'd go about fixing that?
[01:13] <swift110> friendlyGoat, what are the specs of your machine?
[01:13] <friendlyGoat> lemme check
[01:17] <friendlyGoat> took a pic of my computer summary on hardinfo
[01:17] <friendlyGoat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399860712261943296/625138496025395221/Screenshot_from_2019-09-21_20-16-41.png
[01:18] <swift110> friendlyGoat, hmm it would help if you put an ssd into it
[01:18] <friendlyGoat> i dont have access to that unfortunately.
[01:19] <friendlyGoat> this didnt seem to be a problem before but i've noticed it happening the past few days.
[01:19] <Kumool> just one core?
[01:19] <swift110> could be you are using more ram than normal
[01:19] <friendlyGoat> i think that could be the case due to firefox. i keep firefox open 99% of the time with a few tabs.
[01:19] <Kumool> did you run htop, vmstat, swapinfo?
[01:20] <Kumool> checked all of those?
[01:20] <friendlyGoat> going to, one sec.
[01:20] <friendlyGoat> will pastebin the results to you
[01:20] <Kumool> firefox memory leaks like crazy
[01:20] <friendlyGoat> gonna take a hot minute, gotta install those commands you recommended
[01:20] <friendlyGoat> also yeeeeah i think i saw that mentioned around before, i sure hope it aint a memory leak!
[01:20] <Kumool> dont htop, better ps -aux && vmstat && swapinfo
[01:20] <friendlyGoat> ahh alright gonna do that instead then
[01:21] <Kumool> don't worry, it probably is a memory leak, just restart firefox
[01:21] <swift110> yeah thats cool
[01:21] <friendlyGoat> also if it helps at all my swappiness is 20 cause i've seen that recommended around and that seemed like it'd be a good fit for my 4GB of ram and 8GB of swap space.
[01:21] <Kumool> 1.10ghz is worse than a phone though, so firefox should be unbearable to use (I know, my laptop is almost 1.10)
[01:22] <swift110> goodness
[01:22] <swift110> I have worse laptops
[01:22] <swift110> like I have a laptop from 2002 that has 200 mb ram
[01:22] <Kumool> :O
[01:22] <Kumool> holy crap dude
[01:22] <friendlyGoat> i got a big list of stuff running but under all of it it says swapinfo: command not found
[01:22] <Kumool> send that to a museum
[01:22] <friendlyGoat> also ooooo thats old!
[01:23] <friendlyGoat> i have some old computers here and there and one i run as a home server but i never checked its specs tbh
[01:23] <Kumool> yeah, swapinfo is a freebsd command, i got confused
[01:23] <friendlyGoat> lil old thing i bought from the school nearby for 10 bucks, its from 2004, i run some discord bots and host files on it + pihole. i love my old debian dino~
[01:23] <friendlyGoat> runs with a CRT and everything under my desk
[01:24] <friendlyGoat> https://pastebin.com/bcU46LPn
[01:24] <friendlyGoat> results of the command you asked me to run
[01:25] <Kumool> swapon -s
[01:25] <Kumool> but just take a picture of htop
[01:25] <Kumool> much better
[01:25] <Kumool> there was a command that showed system info but i forgot it
[01:26] <swift110> yeah
[01:27] <swift110> I have been using an x60 as my daily driver for about 2 months now
[01:29] <Kumool> I've been using youtube-dl with mpv as a wrapper for all videos
[01:29] <friendlyGoat> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399860712261943296/625141649684693022/unknown.png
[01:29] <friendlyGoat> my htop results
[01:31] <Kumool> well, you are using a bit of swap
[01:31] <Kumool> swap, unless its ssd, will slow down your system
[01:32] <friendlyGoat> ahhh. my swappiness is set to 20, should i change that?
[01:33] <swift110> oh cool
[01:33] <swift110> yes friendlyGoat and close those tabs
[01:33] <Kumool> get one tab extension
[01:33] <Kumool> its a good one
[01:33] <Kumool> man... I hate browsers
[01:34] <Kumool> why arent there any good browsers
[01:34] <friendlyGoat> gonna look into it, and what do you think my swappiness should be?
[01:34] <Kumool> no clue!
[01:34] <Kumool> :)
[01:34] <friendlyGoat> ohh i think i know a good extension for this, there was one i used to have that locked tabs i wasnt using so they werent all loaded at once
[01:35] <Kumool> oh yeah
[01:35] <Kumool> get that
[01:35] <Kumool> managing firefox is a bit of a chore
[01:35] <friendlyGoat> i usually have open two email tabs, youtube, and twitter, twitter is the buggiest so that must reeeally be eating up my memory
[01:35] <Kumool> I always block javascript
[01:35] <Kumool> yeah
[01:35] <Kumool> I open twitter and immediately close it after
[01:36] <Kumool> I have bitlbee with a #twitter_user channel
[01:36] <swift110> good idea Kumool
[01:36] <Kumool> so no need to open twitter
[01:36] <Kumool> and bitlbee is light
[01:37] <Kumool> use claws mail (or any really), and lower your security so you can use imap
[01:37] <Kumool> or hell, use your phone instead
[01:37] <Kumool> use mpv http://youtube.url/ instead of watching in browser
[01:40] <remline> Whoa, I just looked at the manual page for mpv. Longest man page ever!
[01:40] <Kumool> and uhh, that's all of my tricks to have a somewhat pleasant experience on a potato laptop
[01:40] <Kumool> yeah it has a lot of features
[01:40] <Kumool> but what you want is to configure youtube-dl so it loads the firefox cookies
[01:40] <remline> I didn't know it could take URLs directly, that is handy (my laptop is old and slow, too)
[01:41] <Kumool> and a --mark-watched
[01:42] <Kumool> https://bitbucket.org/lalalan/openurl/src/master/openurl.brc this is my wrapper for opening irc urls
[02:57] <swift110> back
[08:41] <nikolam> I installed Eiciel to set ACL permissions (wanted users to r/w folder , not everyone) but I got installed 'nautilus' with it.
[08:42] <nikolam> Now when I click to open folder on right click on Firefox downloads, I get nautilus started instead of Thunar.
[08:42] <nikolam> any way to disable nautilus starting
[08:44] <nikolam> hm seems that one visit to "Preferred applications" in Xfce control panel fix it.. I'll see.
[08:45] <nikolam> Nope, it opens downloaded file in nautilus, instead of opening it in archive manager, for example..
[08:46] <nikolam> for ta.gz downloaded in Firefox it opens it right into archiver, but .xz archive, instead to be opened in the archiver, opens as download location in nautilus
[08:50] <diogenes_> nikolam, https://i.imgur.com/Z3DCufH.png
[09:00] <nikolam> diogenes_, good idea but I don't think it's about Firefox. It's set "always ask" for .xz, but it doesn't ask. I think nautilus forced itself to be default opener, somewhere else in the user profile
[09:01] <diogenes_> nikolam, look in dconf-editor
[09:02] <diogenes_> file-chooser or something.
[09:05] <nikolam> I uninstalled nautilus and it is now. Seems that nautilus and it's addons are actualy not needed for eiciel to work
[09:06] <nikolam> ok
[09:06] <nikolam> but I solved ACL on folder for users with " sudo setfacl -m "g:users:rw" /share " , anyway
[09:07] <nikolam> but I still don't get right permissiond on /share forlder as member of "users" group.maybe after logoff/logon.
[12:33] <jarnos> I wonder, if Gnome keyring does work with chromium-browser in Xubuntu (18.04)? Reference: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/483522/111181
[12:34] <jarnos> Anyway, if I do automatic login, some password is asked (first time) unless I use --password-store=basic.
[12:36] <jarnos> But is it normal that chromium-browser changes '~/.config/chromium/Default/Login Data' even if '--password-store=basic' is not used in Xubuntu?
[13:25] <swift110> good morning
[14:22] <svargas> Hi guys, I'm trouble with a keyboard layouts on Xubuntu 18.04. If I use multiple keyboard layouts and switch between them default keyboard shortcuts don't work in vs code e.g., copy line down -- shift + control + alt + down arrow. When only using the system layout shortcuts work fine. I suspect there may be a limit on the number of key combinations permitted with input mode. Any ideas how to get this working? Many thanks
[14:24] <svargas> + I've just tested this. Through xfce4-keyboard-settings -- using multiple keyboard layouts the maximum keys in combination is 3, using the system layout has no limitation
[14:28] <Kumool> use the system layout then
[14:31] <svargas> thanks @Kumul. Yes, that's what I'm doing at the moment but it isn't ideal as I need other layout to type in other (human) languages
[14:47] <Kumool> svargas: this is in my ~/.xprofile setxkbmap -model latitude -layout us,us -variant dvorak-alt-intl,intl -option grp:shift_caps_toggle,grp_led:num,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[14:47] <Kumool> shift_caps_toggle works well enough
[14:47] <Kumool> but I don't have a complicated setup
[14:47] <Kumool> atm i switched from xfce though
[14:47] <svargas> thanks for that. I'll give it a try
[14:57] <Kumool> you just need to add more layouts and variants, and change the model to your specific keyboard
[14:58] <Kumool> select system on keyboard settings
[15:01] <svargas> Thanks. That's how I had it configured. With more layouts I get the problem of only combinations of 3 keys working. I have to go back to the system keyboard layout to make key combinations of 4 or more to work
[15:02] <svargas> I've been having to change to system layout when I need to change languages which isn't ideal
[15:05] <Kumool> what languages?
[15:05] <Kumool> usually intl is enough for tildes and so on
[15:05] <Kumool> unless you gotta deal with asian languages
[15:06] <Kumool> Anyway, i've never gone farther than that, hopefully someone else can help you
[18:23] <recon_dsk> fuck EFI !!!!!
[18:33] <recon_dsk> well, fuck this, back to square one and refucking install
[18:34] <recon_dsk> more and more windows like every year
[18:35] <recon_dsk> got a problem, reinstall
[20:54] <lenzeor> I have a question:
[20:54] <lenzeor> Why the mouse?
[20:56] <gnrp> lenzeor: Guess you have to ask that more in the #xfce channel?