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[06:28] <didrocks> good morning
[06:47] <jibel> Salut didrocks
[06:48] <didrocks> salut jibel
[06:51] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:23] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[07:24] <didrocks> clobrano: hey! It seems you didn't merge the new themes in master (nor changelog update), is it planned today so that we can push to eoan?
[07:24] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:25]  * didrocks switches intellihide on again, let's see :)
[07:26] <clobrano> hey everyone 0/
[07:27] <clobrano> didrocks, sure, doing it now
[07:27] <didrocks> thanks ;)
[07:28] <oSoMoN> hey clobrano
[07:29] <clobrano> didrocks, changelog updated too in the same branch
[07:29] <seb128> gooood morning desktopers
[07:29] <seb128> lut didrocks oSoMoN, bien rentrés ?
[07:29] <clobrano> mornin oSoMoN, seb128
[07:29] <seb128> hey clobrano, how are you?
[07:29] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[07:29] <oSoMoN> bien rentré, et toi?
[07:29] <seb128> nickel
[07:30] <didrocks> seb128: ça va, sans problème particulier, et toi ? :)
[07:30] <clobrano> very well, seb128, yourself? Had a nice we?
[07:30] <didrocks> clobrano: tell me once merged in master
[07:30] <seb128> pareil, train à l'heure, ras :)
[07:31] <seb128> clobrano, yeah, w.e was good, though I was very tired on saturday, those team weeks are exausting, busy days and nice evening but which end up with have too more drink and one not enough sleep hour ;-)
[07:31] <Wimpress> Morning o/
[07:31] <seb128> hey Wimpress! made it back without issue?
[07:32] <seb128> have one too more drink*
[07:32] <Wimpress> Made it back. Brought Canoniflu with me 😔
[07:32] <seb128> :(
[07:32] <seb128> I've been on an ongoing small cold since GUADEC, this week didn't help
[07:32] <seb128> also my stomach was a bit unhappy on saturday :/
[07:32] <Wimpress> Sorry to hear that.
[07:33] <seb128> I'm better so that's fine :)
[07:34] <seb128> I hope you get over the ubuflyu in not too long
[07:37] <marcustomlinson> morning didrocks jibel oSoMoN clobrano seb128 Wimpress
[07:37] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[07:37] <didrocks> morning Wimpress
[07:38] <jibel> bonjour marcustomlinson
[07:38] <seb128> lut jibel
[07:38] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson
[07:40] <jibel> salut seb128
[07:47] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson
[07:48] <marcustomlinson> jibel: so I'm learning that finding Calvados Coquerel XO is not that easy here :( but I will prevail!
[07:52] <jibel> marcustomlinson, I can always send you a couple of bottles
[07:52] <jibel> or crates ;)
[07:52] <marcustomlinson> jibel: :D
[07:56] <marcustomlinson> morning willcooke
[07:57] <willcooke> morning marcustomlinson
[07:58] <clobrano> didrocks, merged!
[07:58] <willcooke> and Happy Autumn Equinox!
[07:58] <didrocks> clobrano: great, thanks! Will give a last round of testing and upload
[07:59] <clobrano> didrocks, 👍
[08:00] <clobrano> hope everything's find :D
[08:00] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke
[08:00] <clobrano> *fine
[08:02] <willcooke> hi oSoMoN
[08:02] <willcooke> nice one clobrano didrocks
[08:03] <didrocks> clobrano: gbp.conf was wrong, but fixed :)
[08:03] <seb128> hey willcooke, had a good return & w.e?
[08:04] <willcooke> hey seb128, yeah all fine.  Was about an hour delayed leaving CDG (which was kinda OK otherwise I might have been a bit too late getting to the airport)
[08:04] <seb128> you still managed to get a train then in London?
[08:05] <didrocks> clobrano: some tip: gbp buildpackage -> you can see the lintian warnings (quite a lot due to manual editing of debian/changelog) ;) Fixing them, no worry
[08:06] <tjaalton> seb128: could you chime in on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1844132
[08:06] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1844132 in mesa (Ubuntu Eoan) "FFe: Mesa 19.2.0" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:07]  * didrocks logs out/in again
[08:07] <clobrano> didrocks, nice! I did't know gbp buildpackage. I'll add it to my notes 👍
[08:07] <seb128> tjaalton, I can comment but it looks like you didn't get pushback so that's probably not what you need/want?
[08:07] <seb128> tjaalton, I'm not in the release-team so can't +1
[08:07] <seb128> Laney is off today, maybe try on #ubuntu-release?
[08:08] <clobrano> thanks willcooke  :)
[08:08] <tjaalton> seb128: right, but I recall getting a "desktop team +1" earlier :)
[08:08] <willcooke> seb128, I flew back to Luton and avoided all that business
[08:08] <didrocks> Trevinho: hey, btw, no crash so far with intellihide, should be fixed! Great :)
[08:09] <seb128> tjaalton, it would be useful to state in the bug some reason why we want the update, better performances/newer hardware support/..., not easy to give a +1 without context
[08:09] <seb128> willcooke, ah, nice :)
[08:10] <tjaalton> seb128: added a note about ice lake
[08:11] <tjaalton> we've usually had the 1st/3rd release of the year
[08:11] <seb128> yeah, I know
[08:11] <tjaalton> this one is a bit late but should mean .0 is more stable
[08:11] <tjaalton> thanks
[08:11] <seb128> I think it's mostly a formaly from the r-t to give the ack
[08:12] <tjaalton> sure, I'll wait
[08:13] <tjaalton> btw, how to get more packages on xorg.html list?
[08:13] <seb128> didrocks, Trevinho showed again that Italians take their time but get the job done :-)
[08:13] <Trevinho> didrocks: cool 😊
[08:14] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you? enjoying Paris still?
[08:14] <Trevinho> morning all!
[08:14] <Trevinho> yeah, working from here today then tomorrow head back home
[08:15] <didrocks> seb128: yep ;)
[08:15] <seb128> tjaalton, on the versions page? give me the list of packages you want and I add them, the sources defintion include an optional tag
[08:15] <seb128> Trevinho, can you do a landing for https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/unity/+git/unity/+merge/372173 ?
[08:15] <seb128> Trevinho, I did land the other components but I didn't know if you had some other changes pending or whatever for unity
[08:16] <tjaalton> seb128: okay
[08:16] <seb128> tjaalton, thx
[08:16] <Trevinho> seb128: ok
[08:16] <seb128> Trevinho, thx!
[08:20] <tjaalton> seb128: intel-gmmlib, intel-media-driver, intel-compute-runtime for a start
[08:21] <seb128> tjaalton, k
[08:45] <willcooke> popey, I think I might have just hit that gnome shell lock up you were talking about.  I think it might be related to something doing an apt update in the background, and the polkit auth not being displayed
[08:46] <popey> huh, interesting.
[08:46] <popey> I don't think mine was polkit related
[08:46] <popey> I think snap refresh triggers it, but I have "snap login" so I don't have to get the polkit dialog
[08:46] <seb128> willcooke, popey, I'm not sure what you are talking about but if you can reproduce please open a bug with the journal log (best to ubuntu-bug report against gnome-shell, the hook does that for you)
[08:47] <seb128> also having a gdb backtrace would be useful
[08:47] <seb128> if keyboard is locked the usual way is to ssh in
[08:47] <willcooke> seb128, sure, will try and work out how to reproduce my one.  popey yours could still be different
[08:47] <popey> I have crash dumps going to errors.ubuntu.com, but unlike Unity, I no longer have a link in settings to get to my crashers on the website
[08:48] <popey> i guess i could look at the source for unity settings to find how it makes the url
[08:50] <seb128> popey, $ x-www-browser 'http://errors.ubuntu.com/user/'$(printf $(sudo cat /sys/class/dmi/id/product_uuid) | sha512sum)
[08:53] <willcooke> I've pinged the two remaining wallpaper people again and said that if they dont send them to me before tomorrow morning, then its too late
[08:53] <seb128> :-(
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[09:18] <popey> thanks seb128 - it says no crashes uploaded, which is odd. So I triggered whoopsie-upload-all and that crashes :S
[09:19] <popey> will see if I can get a crasher today.
[09:28] <didrocks> clobrano: all good and released/uploaded.
[09:28] <didrocks> willcooke: FYI ^
[09:28] <willcooke> didrocks, \m/ thanks!
[09:28]  * willcooke upgrades
[09:29] <didrocks> willcooke: well, wait for it to build/publish :p
[09:29] <willcooke> wait?!?!  Bah
[09:29] <willcooke> XD
[09:29] <didrocks> heh
[09:29]  * willcooke finishes expenses
[09:35] <clobrano> didrocks, uhuh!
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[10:59] <seb128> jbicha, hey, did you plan to merge anjuta? (looks like it's mostly a change to revert the vala version back)
[11:04] <jbicha> maybe, you can do it first if you like. I guess we should do a ~ version (maybe ~build1) so it will still be syncable next cycle
[11:05] <jbicha> same for gnome-builder
[11:08] <seb128> yeah probably
[11:38] <seb128> jbicha, in fact I don't understand https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/anjuta/commit/d2e0d5d4 , what's the point of forcing a newer version of vala when the upstream code builds fine with older versions?
[11:44] <jbicha> seb128: it didn't work anyway:
[11:45] <jbicha> checking if vala support is disabled... no
[11:45] <jbicha> checking if libvala is available... no
[11:45] <jbicha> talk to you later
[11:45] <seb128> thx, ttyl!
[12:40] <willcooke> tjaalton, (seb128)  I'm running that PPA and I just had an xwayland crash seemingly from nowhere.  Related?  bug #1845001
[12:40] <ubot5> Error: Launchpad bug 1845001 could not be found
[12:40] <willcooke> I'll just make that public....
[12:40] <seb128> willcooke, can you mark the ..
[12:40] <seb128> trhx
[12:40] <willcooke> :)
[12:41] <willcooke> damn it launchpad, stop timing out
[12:42] <seb128> :/
[12:42] <tjaalton> willcooke: I've been running it with xorg for a week without issues
[12:44] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1845001
[12:44] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845001 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xwayland crashed with SIGABRT in OsAbort()" [Undecided,New]
[12:44] <willcooke> there we go
[12:44] <willcooke> I'll try and recreate
[12:45] <seb128> willcooke,  CurrentDesktop: GNOME-Greeter:GNOME
[12:45] <seb128> so yes, was the greeter
[12:47] <seb128> let's wait for a retracing (and brb, changing location)
[13:02] <tjaalton> seems to be duped now
[13:03] <willcooke> ah yeah, so could be a GNOME Shell crash triggering it
[13:07] <willcooke> I cant reproduce anyway, still trying
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[15:02] <seb128> willcooke, release bug post?
[15:03] <willcooke> seb128, man, that totally escaped me... thanks
[15:03] <seb128> np!
[15:06] <willcooke> et voila
[15:06] <willcooke> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/release-bugs-for-week-commencing-monday-23rd-september/12692
[15:06] <seb128> thx :)
[15:29] <ginggs> tseliot: hi! do you have plans to update nvidia-settings in bionic? or should I open a bug?
[15:44] <popeycore> willcooke: seb128: finally managed to trigger it again. Desktop locked up while running snapcraft with lxd
[15:45] <willcooke> popeycore, are you able to ssh in?
[15:45] <popeycore> i am
[15:45] <willcooke> woot
[15:45] <willcooke> anything interesting in the logs?
[15:45] <willcooke> journal
[15:45]  * popeycore rummages
[15:47] <popeycore> maybe https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/txsGG5dTQw
[15:49] <popeycore> line 593 maybe?
[15:49] <popeycore> between there and 711 which is where I ssh'ed in
[15:50] <popeycore> this feels like the kind of thing that would happen when a new device appears, like removable media
[15:50] <popeycore> and the dock freaking out. given i've triggered this before with snap refesh, which causes mounts to appear/disappear
[15:52] <tseliot> ginggs: maybe it should be part of this SRU? LP: #1844126
[15:52] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1844126 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-435 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update NVIDIA the 430 series and introduce the 435 series" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1844126
[15:53] <ogra> popeycore, willcooke ... probably a datapoint ... since i'm still running unity on all my desktops ... when i get an lxd update a new device shows up in the launcher until i reboot ... that goes as far as having the launcher completely fulled with disk icons when i dont reboot for several weeks and lxd gets updated regulary
[15:53] <ogra> so lxd seems to trigger something that makes the system think there is a new disk ... no other snap does that over here
[15:54] <ogra> s7fulled/filled/
[15:55] <willcooke> interesting, thanks ogra
[15:55] <ogra> i reported that to stephane a while back but in the light that unity got dropped both of us didnt really follow up on it
[15:55] <ginggs> tseliot: thanks, I'll add a comment there
[15:56] <willcooke> I think it could be related to the fix that T_revinho did on Friday afternoon then, that was to fix issues with the dock changing
[15:56] <willcooke> popeycore, lemme see where that fix is, I don't think it's in the distro yet...
[15:56] <willcooke> if it isn't lets try that first
[15:56] <popeycore> https://pad.lv/1845017
[15:56] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845017 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Desktop hard lockup in 19.10" [Undecided,New]
[15:56] <willcooke> thanks for the bug
[15:57] <popeycore> np
[15:57] <popeycore> ogra: useful! thanks.
[15:58] <popeycore> doing an update i have no shell or dock changes
[15:58] <popeycore> only yaru and other bits and bobs
[15:59] <willcooke> looks like I had a new mutter this morning
[15:59] <popeycore> if we think lxd might be a suspect, i can try rebooting then just refreshing the lxd snap between channels and see if that triggers with no apps open
[15:59]  * popeycore reboots it
[16:00] <ginggs> tseliot: btw, I have G-SYNC working with the 430 driver in Bionic, after backporting nvidia-settings from Disco
[16:00] <popeycore> ginggs: nice!
[16:02] <ginggs> actually this is G-SYNC with a Dell FreeSync monitor, just needed to use a DisplayPort cable instead of HDMI
[16:03] <tseliot> ginggs: oh, that's cool
[16:04] <popeycore> hm, that didn't trigger it
[17:40] <willcooke> bon nuit
[19:12] <Smaug> hey all.  anyone have experience installing Ubuntu  (16 or 18) on a Lenovo Thinkpad P1 (gen 2)?  I am considering getting such a laptop, but want it to work with ubuntu of course :)
[19:13] <Smaug> the internet does not seem to have a lot of answers
[20:47] <tomreyn> Smaug: see /topic - this is a development channel
[20:57] <Smaug> tomreyn: ty