[01:32] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:20] <akem> Hello, you wake up very early.
[03:16] <marcoagpinto> Hey!
[03:28] <EoflaOE> Hello marcoagpinto
[03:28] <marcoagpinto> EoflaOE!!!
[03:28] <marcoagpinto> Hello!
[03:28] <marcoagpinto> what is the time there?
[03:28] <marcoagpinto> here is 4am
[03:28] <marcoagpinto> :)
[03:28] <marcoagpinto> I can't sleep
[03:28] <EoflaOE> I have 6:28 AM.
[03:29] <marcoagpinto> ahhhh
[04:03] <marcoagpinto> EoflaOE!!!
[04:03] <marcoagpinto> what are you doing? I am working on the GB speller
[04:03] <marcoagpinto> :)
[04:23] <EoflaOE> marcoagpinto: I am getting ready for school.
[04:24] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhhhhhh
[04:24] <marcoagpinto> cool
[04:24] <EoflaOE> Thanks. When I come back, I will think about what will be included in the next version of KS.
[04:25] <marcoagpinto> :)
[04:27] <EoflaOE> Also, every version pushes VB to its limits even more to the point that when it reaches 0.x, it will be re-written as C and C++ as I learn more about them.
[04:28] <marcoagpinto> :p
[04:29] <EoflaOE> OK. Also, when Ubuntu 20.04 LTS development begins, I will remove Ubuntu on my old PC and upgrade my VM on my new PC, because my old PC can't have 64-bit because of CPU.
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> https://pcper.com/2019/06/ubuntu-19-10-20-04-lts-support-selected-32-bit/
[04:31] <EoflaOE> Goodbye.
[04:31] <marcoagpinto> take care
[04:32] <marcoagpinto> lotuspsychje!
[04:32] <marcoagpinto> you are here!
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> i am
[04:47] <tomreyn> if / when wjlafrance returns, tell them that    acpi_enforce_resources=lax   may be causing more troubles than it is solving issues. and that with this latest generation ryzen hardware an even newer kernel (mainline, or 18.04's hwe-edge from proposed) may be a good idea.
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> ok tomreyn
[05:06] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: What is the reason for "acpi_enforce_resources=lax" - could be "causing more
[06:12] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:55] <marcoagpinto> lordievader!!! Hello!
[06:55] <marcoagpinto> I was translating CardBook
[06:55] <marcoagpinto> (Thunderbird add-on)
[06:55] <marcoagpinto> But I became lost in Crowdin as I no longer know if everything is translated
[07:00] <lordievader> Morning marcoagpinto
[07:00] <lordievader> How are you doing today?
[07:01] <marcoagpinto> lordievader: well, I am better than yesterday, thanks for asking, and you?
[07:01] <marcoagpinto> :)
[07:02] <lordievader> Doing good here
[07:03] <marcoagpinto> :p
[07:03] <marcoagpinto> I have also been working on the GB speller since 4am
[07:03] <marcoagpinto> :p
[07:04] <marcoagpinto> we will change the world!!!!
[07:04] <marcoagpinto> I have a dream
[09:32] <marcoagpinto> [10:28] <marcoagpinto> I have cola!!!!!!!!!
[09:34] <akem> The all mighty cola drink ;)
[09:49] <marcoagpinto> yes
[09:49] <marcoagpinto> :)
[10:00] <akemhp> Yay, hibernate works on my HP laptop, it's nearly Ubuntu certified in fact, only the bad Wifi drivers leaking but everything else is good.
[10:01] <jeremyb> Put an Intel wifi card in it
[10:02] <akemhp> I got an USB dongle :)
[10:02] <akemhp> I'm not gonna try to change the mini card inside it.
[10:03] <jeremyb> The biggest problem with replacing the internal is that there are about 10 screws to remove
[10:04] <jeremyb> The mini card antenna connectors are a bit fragile
[10:04] <akemhp> Yeah, that and also it's hard clipsed, i fear to break something each time i unmount that kind of laptops.
[10:06] <akemhp> It's just a matter of fixing the drivers, because it works, catch the bug inside of them, but it's hard to get around theses drivers code.
[10:06] <lordievader> Broadcom chip?
[10:06] <akemhp> lordievader, Yeah.
[10:07] <akemhp> No i mean rtl.
[10:08] <jeremyb> Realtek with one antenna, most likely with HP
[10:09] <lordievader> Oh, Just as terrible
[10:10] <akemhp> There is one thing i don't like about this laptop, and now they often do the same with new laptops, the battery is non removable.
[10:11] <akemhp> And i check inside it's not regular 3V batteries assembled together, like it used to be on removable one.
[10:11] <akemhp> instead it's a flat battery pack.
[10:13] <akemhp> So it's annoying if i have to change it. With regular 3V blocks you could just get some from dealextreme and replace them inside the laptop removable battery.
[11:32] <daftykins> i'm sure it'll still be comprised of cells within
[11:33] <akemhp> daftykins, Maybe but they are flat in that case, it's not as easy as getting round 3V cells and stick them inside.
[11:34] <akemhp> daftykins, It looks like a cellphone battery but bigger.
[11:34] <daftykins> yeah most do now
[11:35] <daftykins> nobody seems to worry about battery replacements these days though, i think most people are so careless with their hardware that they typically dump the whole machine at that point
[11:36] <daftykins> the main postal service here has banned lithium batteries so i can't really import any to the island, too
[11:42] <akemhp> daftykins, On what island are you?
[11:43] <daftykins> Channel Islands between England and France
[11:43] <lordievader> daftykins: Smaller batteries too?
[11:44] <lordievader> Airlines typically also have these sorts of bans, but for much larger batteries than the ones in your laptop.
[11:45] <daftykins> it's a blanket ban, even smartphone replacement batteries
[11:45] <akemhp> daftykins, Ok, i didn't know about them, it's english islands? official language is english there? cause i see it's pretty close to France.
[11:45] <daftykins> if it's not inside a device, they won't carry it
[11:46] <lordievader> Brr
[11:46] <daftykins> in the most recent history, English, yeah... although the French and English fought over ownership for ages so i understand
[11:46] <daftykins> there was a local patois spoken, but it's almost dead now
[11:46] <akemhp> Ok.
[11:51] <lordievader> You probably get asked a lot: where do you/the island stand on the whole brexit?
[11:52] <daftykins> yes we do :( we have our own government so it's irrelevant
[11:52] <daftykins> we hold British citizenship though for the most part, just our passports are very explicit about stating we are entitled to no EU benefits
[11:53] <lordievader> Oh, cool. More or less the same worries as us (NL) then, I guess
[11:53] <lordievader> Nvm. Seems much more complicated 😋
[11:54] <akemhp> Well NL is part of EU afaik.
[11:54] <akemhp> I mean you are using the euros and everything.
[11:54] <daftykins> we do tend to get pretty marginalised by the UK gov
[11:54] <lordievader> It is. /me is slow in replying
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:09] <akemhp> Hey BluesKaj.
[12:09] <marcoagpinto> Hey BluesKaj!
[12:09] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[12:10] <marcoagpinto> I must be ill... I feel no satisfaction in drinking what is left of my cola bottle
[12:10] <BluesKaj> hey akemhp, marcoagpinto
[12:14] <akemhp> marcoagpinto, Then maybe try to add some whisky in the bottle to get the satisfaction? :P
[12:14] <marcoagpinto> what?
[12:14] <marcoagpinto> I don't drink alcohool
[12:14] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:15] <akemhp> It's popular in France, whisky/coca. But i don't drink alcohol either.
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> one for me plz, whisky-cola!
[12:15] <marcoagpinto> sorry for my grammar/typos but I have my brain all toasted
[12:15] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:15] <akemhp> Hehe :)
[12:16] <marcoagpinto> this morning I also spent an hour or two translating CardBook for Thunderbird
[12:16] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:33] <lordievader> Blasphemy, wisky and cola
[12:34] <lordievader> So is beer and cola
[12:34] <lordievader> Never understood those Germans
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> in belgium they mix beer with anything
[12:35] <marcoagpinto> dad mixes piripiri with everything
[12:35] <marcoagpinto> fish, meat, all is the same
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> even beer with grenadine
[13:05] <marcoagpinto> I have done an improvement on Proofing Tool GUI this morning!!!! Pressing CTR+F in the search window, places the cursor in the string gadget!
[13:05] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:07] <marcoagpinto> I will probably release an official update tomorrow or so, although it only has two improvements :) because I don't know when I will be able to focus in it for real
[13:18] <pragmaticenigma> I know we all like to go a little off-topic here... but I think we need to reign things in a bit. This is supposed to be a discussion channel for things related to Ubuntu. Let's start working our way back to that topic please
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> yes
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> so, people will use Proofing Tool GUI to improve LibreOffice to be used in Ubuntu
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: its not the first time volunteers tell you this, talking monologues and offtopic
[13:20] <marcoagpinto> yes, it was you, lotuspsychje, who mentioned it :)
[13:21] <marcoagpinto> and I am just a crazy guy who likes to talk
[13:22] <marcoagpinto> anyway, my app is related to language improving, to be used in LibreOffice, and LibreOffice comes with Ubuntu... so it is a Ubuntu subject
[13:26] <tomreyn> so discussing butterflies is on topic, since the beat of butterfly wings can have impact on a chaotic system like the planets' airflow which can result in weather conditions changing on the other side of the planet where someone might just be trying to use an ubuntu desktop in a backyard when it starts to rain.
[13:27] <marcoagpinto> tomreyn!!!
[13:27] <tomreyn> but not, it's not.
[13:27] <marcoagpinto> right
[13:28] <tomreyn> and so, while your work is certianly useful to many, is not usually on topic here either.
[13:28] <marcoagpinto> oki
[13:28] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:29] <tomreyn> let's see how long you can remember it this time. ;)
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> and even in #ubuntu-offtopic they might not like daily repeatings
[13:29] <marcoagpinto> yes, let me write in my notepad
[13:29] <marcoagpinto> 23-SEP
[13:43] <marcoagpinto> bbl
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> had to fix all kinds of lubuntu 18.04 issues on my fathers desktop
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> he did not update for a while and had apt errors of all kinds
[13:46] <pragmaticenigma> not setup for auto install of updates?
[13:47] <daftykins> LXDE, is the system a dinosaur? :)
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> yeah that was the weird part pragmaticenigma
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: he might be ignoring updates perhaps
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> with a few dpkg and fixmissing stuff full upgrade worked again
[13:49] <pragmaticenigma> I was thinking about the unattentended updates
[13:49] <pragmaticenigma> were Ubuntu will install non-reboot/user action required updates on its own
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> pragmaticenigma: i just use software&updates and download & install updates
[13:53] <pragmaticenigma> I do too... but machines that I don't interact with regularly, I let unattentended upgrades run... that way at least things like Firefox , LibreOffice get their updates
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> yeah i try to make my customers aware of doing updates
[13:55] <daftykins> yeah sounds like a good default for folks who won't know what they're up to
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> but in the field, seems to be harder :p
[13:55] <daftykins> manual is too much to ask, because the mentality of most people is to close off things they have to engage their brain for
[13:55] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: just enable default security updates only then, perhaps :>
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:24] <akemhp> My Ubuntu with Fluxbox is so much more responsive than my Windows 10, it's pleasurable. But my Other one (on a slower laptop tho) with full Gnome is sometimes a bit laggy.
[15:25] <akemhp> Windows 7 is very responsive too on my older AMD laptop - i prefer this one over W10. Anyway it's a bit offtopic :P
[15:45] <daftykins> as with all operating systems, the defaults are not necessarily sane... i find desktop Linux users don't tend to know where to start on making Windows run better
[15:45] <daftykins> personally i find 10 lighter than 7 once you get over some introductory hurdles
[16:33] <lordcirth> daftykins, what defaults do you change on new Ubuntu systems?
[16:35] <daftykins> i typically only use servers, as it happens
[16:45] <daftykins> lordcirth: were you trying to claim the same is true of the reverse? :)
[16:59] <EoflaOE> Hello everyone
[16:59] <daftykins> wb \o
[17:01] <EoflaOE> Thanks daftykina
[17:01] <EoflaOE> daftykins*
[17:02] <lordcirth> daftykins, ? I was just wondering what settings you like to change, as it might be informative.
[17:03] <daftykins> lordcirth: ah well above the topic was actually of Windows
[17:04] <lordcirth> daftykins, right, but you said "as with all operating systems" so I was wondering if there are Linux/Ubuntu defaults you don't consider "sane".
[17:06] <daftykins> that'd require a decent chunk of time
[20:13] <TJ-> tomreyn: BigBlueButton! Thanks for the top; it integrates with Moodle
[20:33] <Bashing-om> UWN597 is on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue597 :D