| cmaloney | morning | 11:02 |
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| mrgoodcat | morning | 13:24 |
| _stink_ | yo | 13:26 |
| ColonelPanic001 | hi | 13:36 |
| jrwren | https://media.ccc.de/v/ASG2019-164-reinventing-home-directories | 14:22 |
| jrwren | i wonder what he means by mixing state and configuration. What is configuration if not state? | 14:22 |
| cmaloney | Um... | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | I don't like his assertion about immutable etc | 14:55 |
| cmaloney | etc is configuration. It's the literal embodiment of configuration | 14:56 |
| jrwren | i agree. | 14:56 |
| jrwren | how is that different than state? | 14:56 |
| cmaloney | I'm going ot have to look at this later, because I don't think he's solving what he thinks he's solving | 14:58 |
| jrwren | i think he is, but I think he is accepting a whole great number of additional constraints which he isn't talking about. | 14:59 |
| cmaloney | INdeed | 14:59 |
| cmaloney | I just watched the first 5 minutes and my head tilted about 30 degrees | 14:59 |
| cmaloney | I don't want it to come off | 15:00 |
| jrwren | I hope he studies otehr systems /etc/passwd replacements like digital unix TCB ;) | 15:00 |
| cmaloney | Yes, becausse we're all clamoring for THAT. | 15:01 |
| cmaloney | or ndis | 15:01 |
| cmaloney | I look forward to lppasswd. ;) | 15:01 |
| jrwren | ugh... 21min in his "solution" to ssh logins, isn't a solution at all. it is a work around. I really wish he would state what problem he is solving. Thankfully, distros wont adopt this... i hope. | 15:12 |
| brousch | I think of the difference as configuration is what it is supposed to be, and state is how it really is | 15:25 |
| brousch | Or initial configuration compared to state while running | 15:26 |
| cmaloney | I wish folks would stop with the idea that /etc is read-only | 15:27 |
| jrwren | the QA starts to make more sense. | 15:27 |
| cmaloney | That seems like the first stumbling block | 15:27 |
| greg-g | hello from Portland | 16:50 |
| jrwren | Is it weird? | 16:55 |
| jrwren | Is it true that the dream of the 90s is still alive there? | 16:55 |
| greg-g | yes and yes | 17:03 |
| greg-g | a guy with a long coat, black cane with a silver animal head, top hat, and glasses was on the light rail on my way in from the airport | 17:03 |
| greg-g | I watched an old pearl jam live performance of Alive last night to help keep it alive (see what I did there?) | 17:05 |
| cmaloney | will you be doing this all week? :) | 17:08 |
| * cmaloney wants to plan ahead. | 17:08 | |
| greg-g | listening to pearl jam? probably :P | 17:08 |
| cmaloney | /ignore greg-g | 17:08 |
| cmaloney | ;) | 17:08 |
| jrwren | since we talked about RO /etc... https://media.ccc.de/v/ASG2019-119-atomic-updates-and-configuration-files-in-etc | 19:48 |
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