[00:09] <aleksandrdvorkin> hi
[00:11] <aleksandrdvorkin> can two computers on the same network share files via samba but one computer is connected via wifi (wireless)
[00:12] <lordcirth> aleksandrdvorkin, yes, it being over wifi shouldn't make a difference normally.
[00:12] <lordcirth> Though sometimes large corporate wifi routers block peer-to-peer communication.
[00:12] <aleksandrdvorkin> ok
[00:12] <aleksandrdvorkin> spanks
[00:13] <aleksandrdvorkin> and samba should be installed on both systems?
[00:15] <lordcirth> I believe you'll need cifs-utils on the client and all of samba on the server.
[00:34] <DarwinElf> it's been said "Debian's repository is China old."  Ubuntu is a bit better, but I've had to build two or three packages from source code... now the software manager is always telling me to update those.  How do I remove that message from appearing, since I want to keep the packages I built rather than replace them with broken ones?
[00:35] <lordcirth> DarwinElf, you can set a "hold" on those packages
[00:36] <tomreyn> but be aware this means you're opting out of any security patches.
[00:36] <DarwinElf> where do I do that?
[00:37] <tomreyn> apt-mark, but i do not know for sure whether this will stop them from being listed as potential update targets on the gui
[00:37] <DarwinElf> oh...
[00:37] <DarwinElf> thanks
[00:38] <tomreyn> !pinning is another option
[00:38] <tomreyn> !pinninig
[00:39] <tomreyn> !pin
[00:39] <mojtaba> Hello, I have lots of jpg files, and I want to zip each 20 of them in a zip file and name them 001, 002, ... . Do you know how can I do that?
[00:40] <DarwinElf> thanks
[00:41] <lordcirth> mojtaba, doesn't sound too hard to script
[00:41] <mojtaba> I just don't know how to limit the number of files to the zip command
[00:41] <lordcirth> But #bash might help you better
[00:41] <lordcirth> mojtaba, I would use xargs
[00:42] <lordcirth> You can set xargs to run one invocation of zip per 20 arguments
[00:42] <mojtaba> lordcirth I will check xargs.
[00:42] <mojtaba> Thanks
[00:45] <DarwinElf> putting them on hold worked, thanks.  I'll just check for updates
[00:47] <mojtaba> I have switched recently to Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, and it is very buggy.
[00:47] <mojtaba> Very slow, and the selected shortcuts does not work.
[00:48] <mojtaba> I have set alt+ctrl+c to launch calculator, but it is not working.
[00:48] <mojtaba> I did not have any problem with that in Unity.
[00:52] <tomreyn> unless you're meaning to ask support questions there, this is not the right place to share your experiences.
[00:55] <tomreyn> gnome-shell is surely not in the state we'd all like to see it in, yet, but the desktop team is working on improving this. if you prefer unity for now, you can install it.
[00:55] <tomreyn> or pick one of the supported !flavors
[01:01] <mojtaba> I wanted to know if anyone know how to fix it
[01:07] <akem__> mojtaba, Try to run another program than the calculator, or another set of keys for the shortcut, and try your command in the terminal first to be sure it works.
[01:09] <mojtaba> akem In the settings -> Devices -> Keyboard, the second one is Launch Calculator, and I set it to alt+ctrl+c.
[01:10] <akem> I see but i'm not on Gnome right now, i can't check.
[01:11] <tomreyn> i just set this on 18.04, and it works here
[01:11] <tomreyn> maybe you have some gnome-shell extension getting in the way
[01:17] <mojtaba> tomreyn Do you know how can I check that?
[01:19] <tomreyn> mojtaba: that's easy. is your systemd journal full of gnome-shell traces?
[01:19] <mojtaba> tomreyn How can I check it?
[01:19] <mojtaba> I am new to systemd
[01:19] <tomreyn> journalctl -eb
[01:22] <mojtaba> after performing alt+ctrl+c, the last line is Sep 22 21:22:04 think gsd-media-keys[2213]: Could not find application 'org.gnome.Calculator.desktop'
[01:22] <mojtaba> Which is weird!
[01:23] <mojtaba> It seems, calculator is an snap application.
[01:23] <mojtaba> I don't know what to do.
[01:24] <lordcirth> mojtaba, you can remove the snap and install it from apt.
[01:25] <mojtaba> lordcirth do you know how can I modify the shortkeys to run the snap version, instead?
[01:25] <doug16k> is there a way to stop this log spam? it has been spamming that every 3 seconds for years now -> https://gist.github.com/doug65536/8d4f0102e19a9dada7e056b13e5b3bf1
[01:25] <lordcirth> mojtaba, if it lets you specify an executable path, then you can use 'which snap' to get the path, and insert it.
[01:26] <tomreyn> oh right i have replaced snaps by the proper counterparts.
[01:26] <mojtaba> lordcirth, when I click on it, it just asks for the key combination.
[01:26] <lordcirth> mojtaba, it is probably easiest to just install it from apt.
[01:27] <tomreyn> mojtaba: you can add custom ones on the very bottom, there's a + there
[01:27] <mojtaba> Ok, thanks
[01:29] <doug16k> there's a way to filter out logging of something right? filtering out any line containing "org/ayatana/NotificationItem/multiload" for example
[01:30] <OerHeks> depends on the ubuntu gnome version, "System Load Indicator" is the culprit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/1739468
[01:31] <doug16k> yes, and I love it
[01:31] <doug16k> I'll let it spam if I have to
[01:32] <OerHeks> so it is not logspam.
[01:32] <doug16k> I see cpu usage, mem usage, load, scaling freq, disk reads, disk writes, net rcv, net send all right there at the top at all times
[01:32] <doug16k> how is it not log spam if it writes crap to log every 3 seconds forever?
[01:33] <doug16k> I filed the same bug years ago
[01:36] <doug16k> the symtoms have changed though: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/1581920
[01:36] <doug16k> 2016
[01:38] <doug16k> at least now it is once every 3 seconds and not a complete spray of messages
[01:40] <doug16k> I think I added a filtering thing somewhere in my config to suppress the asserts. I completely forget how
[01:41] <doug16k> want to add another for that resetting log message
[01:42] <doug16k> add this to /etc/syslog.conf ? -> :msg, contains, "org/ayatana/NotificationItem/multiload"  ~
[01:43] <doug16k> no effect
[01:44] <doug16k> after sudo service rsyslog restart
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: your bug doesnt show usefull system info
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: we strongly advice to try making apport-collect 1581920 work, so developers can start debug a better way, this is why your bug wasnt handled further
[01:45] <doug16k> apport-collect 1581920 said it got nothing. was I supposed to know what to post and do it by hand?
[01:46] <tomreyn> the rsyslog configuration file is called *r*syslog.conf
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: try purge apport and try again maybe
[01:46] <doug16k> that was a typo, I did edit rsyslog.conf
[01:47] <doug16k> the only response was a bot so I figured nobody was looking at it
[01:48] <aleksandrdvorkin> hi guys
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: its normal, when you dont add relevant info, nothing much will happen right?
[01:48] <tomreyn> indicator-applet is in universe.
[01:49] <OerHeks> add yourself to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/1739468
[01:49] <aleksandrdvorkin> iam trying to mount the directory from the server on my client and i am ok in GUI with smb://192.168.1.8 but when i issue command in terminal like sudo mount -t cifs -o username=pi //192.168.1.8/pi /mnt/smbmount the directory is mounted but has no files in it why?
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: we even dont know your ubutnu version? is it still a supported one?
[01:50] <doug16k> 18.04/3 LTS
[01:50] <doug16k> .3
[01:50] <doug16k> supported right?
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[01:51] <doug16k> OerHeks, add how? mark it as "affects me"? did that
[01:51] <doug16k> thanks for pointing out that bug btw
[01:56] <doug16k> I'm a dev and I've contributed fixes/features to several open source projects. I don't even try to fix gtk stuff though. I don't think I have one program on my machine that doesn't spit out at least one gtk warning
[01:59] <OerHeks> does it stop with: gnome-shell --replace
[01:59] <OerHeks> or Alt + F2 > r
[01:59] <doug16k> will that blow up everything running?
[01:59] <OerHeks> https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/133
[02:00] <OerHeks> not sure what services your run, but yes, there is a small hickup?
[02:02] <doug16k> spam continues, once per 3 seconds -> https://gist.github.com/doug65536/8e8643f5938559361bda9dfb7f7623ea
[02:04] <doug16k> see what I mean? every gtk app is logging errors, always has
[02:05] <doug16k> I just accept it now. consider it "normal"
[02:06] <doug16k> I just want to suppress it. I have no hope of it actually being fixed
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: did you clean install 18.04.3 or was this an upgrade from?
[02:06] <doug16k> clean
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: your kernel version?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> doug16k: Ran across similar earlier. See: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1058750/new-alert-keeps-showing-up-server-returned-error-nxdomain-mitigating-potential answer marked '3' as an example of placing the file in /etc/rsyslog.d to supress the messages.
[02:07] <doug16k> Linux doug-dt 4.15.0-63-generic #72-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 6 10:12:25 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: when did you clean install?
[02:07] <doug16k> long ago
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> you can try !HWE doug16k
[02:08] <doug16k> !HWE
[02:11] <doug16k> will try it, thanks
[02:12] <doug16k> oh wow, all the way to 5.x kernel?
[02:12] <OerHeks> jups
[02:13] <doug16k> will it have the systemd fixes for broken rdrand?
[02:13] <doug16k> 5.x breaks machines with broken rdrand right?
[02:14] <doug16k> ah I guess worst case I can go back to last kernel in grub
[02:15] <doug16k> getting a ryzen 3950X someday when enough chiplets are left over after epycs
[02:16] <tatertots> 6.x kernel is going to be awesome
[02:16] <doug16k> in case you don't know what I'm talking about, some recent AMD chips have a bug where rdrand returns -1 every time, and that hangs 5.x when systemd generates guids
[02:16] <akem> Mine uninstalled older kernels if i'm not mistaken.
[02:17] <akem> You may not be able to go back sometimes.
[02:17] <akem> I have only 5.0 kernels installed now.
[02:17] <doug16k> I'll probably have the microcode fix for that before 3950X is in stock somewhere though, so might be moot
[02:24] <doug16k> seems to be working fine so far: Linux doug-dt 5.0.0-29-generic #31~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 12 18:29:21 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:50] <CorneliusNubston> Hey guys so i want to query somethign is it possible to use the new windows subsystem for linux to run ubuntu server inside windows server and if so can i give the copy of ubuntu its own static ip
[02:51] <CorneliusNubston> the reason im saksign is i have soem thign i really need ubunttu for but i also need windows srever 2-016 for mny fivem server to run nicely  and im not fermilier with hyper-v so dont really want to dabble with that if i can avoid it
[02:53] <wjlafrance> Having trouble booting into the second option in my grub list. When I press down on the keyboard, it's like I've held it down too long and I see each option get scrolled past as it goes to the bottom. Any ideas what that might be? BIOS setting?
[02:58] <xrandr> wjlafrance: Going to need a little more than that.  What's the options.  What type of computer do you have? What version of its BIOS?
[03:00] <wjlafrance> xandr: Aorus X570 motherboard, USB keyboard. Current BIOS version I believe but not sure. It's brand new, I just swapped to it a few days ago, which is why I'm suspecting that's the issue, but I'm not sure what settings exist that would cause this probem.
[03:17] <tomreyn> !wsl | CorneliusNubston
[03:18] <marcoagpinto> tomreyn: are you awake?
[03:18] <marcoagpinto> at 4am?
[03:19] <Stralytic> I'm using Eoan and NetworkManager has recently begun ignoring my dnsmasq configuration. I've noticed other distributions do this but never had this problem on ubuntu. Can someone help me troubleshoot this or should I submit a bug ticket to launchpad?
[03:20] <CorneliusNubston> tomreyn, i know but im wonderign how stable is WSL and can i run server from within it stably
[03:21] <CorneliusNubston> ias i have soem pretty cpu and ram and hdd intensive thigns i need to run within ubuntu
[03:21] <CorneliusNubston> but i sitll need the full fledged windows envirment
[03:21] <CorneliusNubston> so yeah
[03:30] <tomreyn> CorneliusNubston: on *this* channel we can discuss ubuntu running bare metal or virtualized on desktops (for servers there is #ubuntu-server). as ubottu pointed out, this channel is not suitable for discussion of WSL's stability or features. ubuntu, when running in a proper virtualization with a full kernel and linux-compatible (virtualized) hardware, runs stable by default.
[03:32] <CorneliusNubston> ahh my bad thank youi for the infomation tho tomreyn rather than chewing me out for not knowning better *my usualy experiance when i discus soemthign int he wrong channel on freenode in the past*
[03:32] <wjlafrance> Re: grub keyboard jumping problem, it turns out I'm running a quite outdated BIOS version.
[03:33] <CorneliusNubston> so yeah thank you for actually be plesant nice informative and guidigng  and not a compelte Cunt rocket
[03:34] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: \o/
[03:34] <tomreyn> CorneliusNubston: you're welcome (but please try to keep it family friendly here)
[03:47] <CorneliusNubston> sorry my bad
[04:12] <wjlafrance> I installed the latest BIOS and that didn't help. :( The problem I'm having is when I'm at the grub menu and I tap the arrow down key, it scrolls past every item in the list and ends up at the last one. This is with an Aorus X570 Ultra motherboard and generic USB keyboard. I've flipped legacy USB off in BIOS and that made the keyboard not work at all.
[04:16] <tomreyn> wjlafrance: try navigating the bios with the keyboard, does it happen there, too?
[04:16] <wjlafrance> tomreyn, keyboard works fine in BIOS
[04:16] <tomreyn> so also for moving up and down on those options?
[04:16] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: Try the boot parameter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1821709 .
[04:16] <wjlafrance> Also it's not just arrow keys. Using Ctrl+P / Ctrl+N in grub also repeats.
[04:20] <tomreyn> wjlafrance: have you tried connecting the keyboard to a different usb connector? like swapping from the front of the computer to the back or vice versa?
[04:21] <wjlafrance> tomreyn, I've tried unplugging and plugging it back in but not a different port. I'm looking at the launchpad issue now. I think this started when I upgraded to 19.04.
[04:21] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: ^^ Also - bios: do you have the "IOMMU Controller" option ? and is it set to enabled ?
[04:22] <wjlafrance> Bashing-om, manual says it's there and defaults to auto. I don't think I've changed it. Should that be on?
[04:23] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: Can not hurt to try it as "enabled".
[04:24] <tomreyn> wjlafrance: is the usb keyboard issue also present on the booted system (if you can currently boot to it?) or just at grub?
[04:24] <wjlafrance> Bashing-om, I'll try that
[04:25] <wjlafrance> tomreyn, works fine when booted into Linux (I'm on the machine I'm troubleshooting)
[04:25] <tomreyn> please post a system log:    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:26] <wjlafrance> tomreyn, https://termbin.com/29pz
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Stralytic: support for 19.10 in #ubuntu+1 please
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> doug16k: bug solved on HWE please?
[04:29] <tomreyn> wjlafrance: i'll have a look, just to see if there is anything looking broken (in terms of software) in general, don't wait for me.
[04:29] <wjlafrance> Okay, rebooting, be back in a few.
[04:33] <doug16k> lotuspsychje, no
[04:36] <wjlafrance> Bashing-om, no changes after setting IOMMU = Enabled :(. Looking at GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES now.
[04:37] <tomreyn> iommu was already aneabled with the auto setting according to your logs
[04:38] <tomreyn> you can set a different default grub kernel using    sudo grub-set-default
[04:39] <wjlafrance> That's good to know. I'm not sure if the other system will boot (messing around with Arch on ZFS alongside Ubuntu) and don't want to get stuck in an unbootable state though.
[04:41] <wjlafrance> Rebooting with new grub preload modules.
[05:03] <wjlafrance> The GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES didn't fix it, and actually made my system unbootable. But we're back. Good thing I keep a recovery stick on hand at all times. :)
[05:07] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: What is the reason for "acpi_enforce_resources=lax" - could be "causing more troubles than it is solving".
[05:08] <wjlafrance> I don't recall, but that's an argument to the Linux kernel and I don't have issues once booted into Linux, only in the grub menus
[05:08] <wjlafrance> I think I was trying to pass through some GPUs or something
[05:11] <wjlafrance> Might be because my keyboard is plugged into a PCIe USB card rather than the motherboard. Trying that. If not I give up for tonight. Thanks folks.
[05:12] <OerHeks> lolz
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> uhh
[05:19] <wjlafrance> Well, if it ever comes up again Bashing-om, my keyboard was plugged into a USB hub that was plugged into a USB PCIe controller. I moved it to the motherboard's on-board USB ports and the problem went away. Arch didn't boot successfully, but that's a different problem entirely.
[05:21] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: Well ! Thst explains 148 entries in the log about the keyboard !
[05:22] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: By the way - the 5.3 kerenl has added support for the Ryzen GPU .
[05:23] <wjlafrance> I'm using 5.0.0 with a Ryzen 3700X right now but looking at newer kernels for better support. For example I can't get my processor temperature right now which is concerning.
[05:26] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: I have seen some thing in the respect of Ryzen temps monitoring..maybe fixed in 5.3 kernel .
[05:27] <Bashing-om> wjlafrance: the 5.3 kernel is in the proposed 19.10 release.
[05:28] <wjlafrance> I'm looking at running Arch in the mean time but I might just run ubuntu+1.
[05:52] <Geras> Hi all. Which 2 irc clients for ubuntu is good? I mean 1 irc client for: ssl,sasl,proxy,way to connect to onion irc servers + clearnet,and to enter 127.0.0.1 and 9050 etc and a 2nd one that is different from the other,but also for ubuntu,but it will be used for i2p
[05:53] <nikolam> It seems I can't bring up my 2 LAN network devices. I experimenting with network sharing and it didn't work (I haven't reboot) and I get back settings to manual,  but now LANs do not work
[06:03] <Geras> ?
[06:05] <amincd> Hi, I just installed 19.04, and now when I try to de-select an icon by holding CTRL and left-clicking on it, it doesn't work. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[06:05] <nikolam> help.ubuntu.com search does not work without google's scripts. And I don't use nor allow google's spying scripts on web pages.
[06:08] <usbguy1> amincd is that in the gnome file browser or on your desktop?
[06:19] <Geras> sorry to ask alot.. But does anyone know? :)
[06:35] <usbguy1> Hexchat and irssi are two of my favorite Geras
[06:35] <usbguy1> Check them out
[06:36] <Geras> Do i need to configure alot for irssi?
[06:37] <usbguy1> With irssi...maybe
[06:37] <usbguy1> irssi is command line and Hexchat is a gui
[06:37] <usbguy1> Hexchat is fairly straight forward and can do everything  you mentioned
[06:37] <Geras> oh.. then irssi isnt for me. but about hexchat,i like.. so i need another instead of irssi
[06:38] <Geras> for the i2p
[06:39] <usbguy1> Still give irssi a try first before throwing it to the curb, it is configurable, but it's also fairly good right out of the box
[06:39] <usbguy1> Pidgin is another really good one for out of the box IRC GUI's
[06:39] <usbguy1> Those three are really my tops
[06:39] <Geras> i dont mind if its abit complicated. but if its to complicated,then nah
[06:40] <Geras> i cant use pidgin,since i cant do the oper command on a server im staff on.. besides i already use pidign as xmpp,not irc
[06:41] <usbguy1> got it
[06:41] <usbguy1> I'd def try out Irssi then
[06:42] <usbguy1> I think Hexchat and Irssi will be your ticket
[06:42] <Geras> i see
[06:42] <Geras> can irssi be used with i2p and connect to i2p servers?
[06:46] <usbguy1> I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm not sure
[06:46] <usbguy1> I just tried looking and it doesn't seem like it
[06:46] <Geras> aww
[06:47] <Geras> then irssi is out for me
[06:47] <usbguy1> Hold on one second
[06:48] <usbguy1> Hexchat I2P addon
[06:48] <usbguy1> https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat-addons/blob/master/python/privacy/privacy.py
[06:49] <Geras> But how would that addon for hexchat work,if im going to use hexchat to connect to .onion irc servers too with sasl,ssl etc?
[06:50] <Geras> along with clearnet servers as well
[06:52] <k_sze> Is there any relationship among the `direct`, `dsync`/`sync`, and `nonblock` conv options of the dd command?
[06:52] <usbguy1> My experience with I2P isn't as in depth as what it may be for you, but it looks like you may be able to setup Hexchat and irssi to route traffic to a localhost port which proxies it to i2p
[06:53] <usbguy1> https://www.funtoo.org/Irssi_over_tor
[06:53] <usbguy1> As for the SASL, SSL, and other features, both support SASL, SSL, and are highly configurable
[06:53] <usbguy1> as far as IRC clients go, I haven't found too much better than these and they seem to be the most popular around
[06:54] <usbguy1> I'd be surprised if they we're able to perform what you're asking
[06:59] <Geras> i might check irssi,but not sure if im going to use it.. but certainly hexchat,but thats just for connecting to .onion irc servers + clearnet,where it has sasl,ssl and other features.
[07:00] <Geras> so then im missing a 2nd irc client for i2p (except pidgin and irssi)
[07:15] <Geras> Any other irc clients that I can use for i2p,except pidgin and irssi?
[07:15] <k_sze> dd'ing from a microSD card seems ridiculously slow for some reason.
[07:15] <k_sze> iostat tells me something like 43.19 kB_read/s
[07:33] <Geras> A question about pidgin on ubuntu. How come when I look in the purple folder for pidgin in the etc folder in ubuntu desktop,i only see 1 file,but when in terminal when i type ls .purple,I see more?
[08:37] <asdfgh> hey guys i have a geforce 1070, how can i install the last driver for ubuntu 18.04.3 ?
[08:38] <asdfgh> on drivers screen i see nvidia-driver-430
[08:38] <asdfgh> are good? (latest?)
[08:43] <asdfgh> on nvidia.it i see Versione:	430.50
[08:43] <asdfgh> so 430 should be the last drivers.
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | asdfgh
[08:51] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, yes but it seems that i already have the 430
[08:51] <asdfgh> it should be the lastest
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: did you visit the ubuntu graphics ppa from the link?
[09:35] <slingamn> what's the relationship between rsyslog and systemd-journald on modern ubuntu systems (18.04 and later)? can one simply disable rsyslog?
[10:29] <pomeha> hello, what's the purpose of 'watershed' utility? I can't figure it out
[10:30] <Habbie> pomeha, what watershed utility? where did you find it?
[10:31] <akemhp> To get only 1 instance of a program running at any time?
[10:31] <pomeha> Habbie: apt search watershed finds it. I'm doing dist-upgrade and noticed that that package is to be deleted, out of curiosity I apt searched it, but I can't get what it does
[10:31] <Habbie> it looks like it was removed after 18.10 indeed
[10:31] <pomeha> I live only on LTSes
[10:33] <Habbie> pomeha, but both currently supported LTSes have it
[10:33] <pomeha> yup
[10:33] <pomeha> but package description is such that I can't understand what it does
[10:35] <Habbie> i suspect it's something that was used by other packages
[10:35] <Habbie> but is no longer used by other packages
[10:36] <pomeha> does server ubuntu call apt by itself? just did `apt -y install watershed` and got an error 'could not get lock ... is another process using it?' on a VM that I just started and thus 100% sure I'm not running apt in another process and re-executing the command resulted in its successful execution
[10:37] <acebrianjuan> Hi folks
[10:38] <pomeha> also, when doing `dist-upgrade`, the session ends with lines `[10:38] <pomeha> is it 'jobs'?
[10:38] <akem-hp> Hey, i got a weird issue, my desktop is frozen no keyboard or mouse and Xorg is using 100% CPU, but i can ssh to the machine, first time i got this issue.
[10:38] <m2_teknix> ADI am having a 3 monitor setup. Is there a way I can reduce the color temperature (make it warmer) only on 1 of the screens.
[10:38] <Habbie> pomeha, 'could not get lock' could also mean you're not doing it as root
[10:38] <m2_teknix> I am having a 3 monitor setup. Is there a way I can reduce the color temperature (make it warmer) only on 1 of the screens.
[10:38] <pomeha> Habbie: I did arrow up && enter and it worked, of course it's sudo
[10:39] <Habbie> pomeha, could be some cron job looking at apt then
[10:39] <m2_teknix> The "Night Light" works onall the screens
[10:39] <acebrianjuan> I need to send data from a machine to a virtual machine on a different computer
[10:39] <pomeha> Habbie: good catch, will look at cronjobs! thanks.
[10:40] <acebrianjuan> but I don't know how do IP adresses work in a virtual machine
[10:40] <pomeha> IP addresses work the same way everywhere
[10:41] <acebrianjuan> how can I forward data from the ports in my ubntu machine to the virtual machine?
[10:42] <acebrianjuan> *ubuntu
[10:42] <akem-hp> I had to kill Xorg, and no information in dmesg, Xorg got frozen and xpu crazy, first time i see that :(
[10:42] <akem-hp> cpu*
[10:46] <pomeha> `less /var/log/Xorg.0.log`?
[10:47] <pomeha> m2_teknix: imo that's a weird task, why not just configure the colors on monitors using hardware buttons on them so they'd look maximally alike?
[10:48] <pomeha> acebrianjuan: the same way you'd forward to non-virtual machine
[10:54] <m2_teknix> pomeha: Have already tried that. One of the monitors is still too bright. Never mind though -_-, will try to manage somehow xD
[10:56] <pomeha> m2_teknix: worth a shot https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/adjust-external-monitor-brightness-ubuntu
[10:57] <pomeha> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LordAmit/Brightness/master/img/BrightnessController.gif
[10:58] <Br|aN> so try9ing to upgrade znc and getting problems
[10:58] <acebrianjuan> pomeha: ok, thank you
[11:00] <pomeha> problems... problems everywhere!
[11:00] <Br|aN>  Unable to locate package libperl-dev
[11:01] <pomeha> it's in bionic-security repo
[11:01] <pomeha> and bionic-updates
[11:03] <meEeEp> /j #raspberrypi
[11:13] <Br|aN> yup cant figure it out too tireed
[11:42] <Megabyte> hello
[11:42] <Megabyte> What software can I use to unlock a bitlocker volume which is encrypted into Ubuntu?
[12:04] <tatertots> use bitlocker
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:10] <tomreyn> !info dislocker
[12:10] <tomreyn> Megabyte ^
[12:33] <rahulch> Hi, I am facing some trouble while trying to upgrade libwayland-dev on Ubuntu - https://pastebin.com/9pCycMhm . How do I resovle this? I tried to uninstall from apt but it tried to remove some 200 packages along with libwayland-dev
[12:35] <tomreyn> rahulch: don't install packages which were made for other releases, that's how.
[12:36] <ioria> rahulch, i suggest an  apt-cache policy libwayland-dev
[12:37] <rahulch> ioria: https://pastebin.com/tKxmaVkY
[12:37] <tomreyn> if you need to build against a newer wayland version then either don't use the distribution provided packages, setup a build in a chroot, lxd guest, VM or upgrade your ubuntu installation
[12:38] <ioria> rahulch, and why are you using a ppa (btw, you can use dpkg -i --force-overwrite blah)
[12:39] <rahulch> tomreyn: as far as I can remember I did a aptitude install libwayland-dev, without tweaking the apt sources for a specific version etc
[12:39] <ioria> rahulch, the pkg you're trying to installit's from a ppa
[12:39] <tomreyn> rahulch: as ioria pointed out, the issue is with the PPA you're using.
[12:40] <rahulch> okay, how do I safely uninstall this package and also remove the ppa?
[12:40] <mgedmin> ppa-purge
[12:40] <ioria> ^that
[12:44] <rahulch> I can't even install ppa-purge at this point. It complains about libwayland-dev and tries to upgrade/remvoe it, both of which fails
[12:45] <ioria> rahulch, apt is broken ?
[12:45] <mgedmin> yeah, that's my biggest gripe about ppa-purge: it's not installed by default and it's hard to install when some ppa messes up your apt real good
[12:45] <rahulch> ioria: yes, I cannot install/remove/upgrade anything. Every action gets hung up on libwayland-dev
[12:45] <mgedmin> removing libwayland-dev might remove a bunch of other -dev packages, but shouldn't break anything
[12:46] <mgedmin> -dev packages are only needed for building stuff, not for running stuff
[12:46] <ioria> rahulch, dpkg -l| grep libwayland
[12:46] <rahulch> mgedmin: it removes a ton of other packages, most of which I am currently using for my projects
[12:46] <mgedmin> you can install them back later, when you've clean up the rogue ppa
[12:46] <mgedmin> make a list of the packages that will be removed if you want to make sure you won't forget to reinstall any of them
[12:47] <rahulch> ioria: https://pastebin.com/1UpLYWy0
[12:47] <rahulch> mgedmin: yeah, that's my last resort :)
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> mgedmin: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-list-and-remove-ppa-repository-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux handy
[12:48] <ioria> rahulch,  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libwayland-dev_1.14.0+git201802091202.ef48ff2-1632~ubuntu16.04.1_amd64.deb   and good luck
[12:51] <rahulch> ioria: https://pastebin.com/mNmKL7hw What did I just do btw?
[12:52] <ioria> rahulch, again  dpkg -l| grep libwayland
[12:52] <tomreyn> you allowed the 'stuck' package to overwrite files which are part of other packages you have installed
[12:52] <rahulch> ioria: https://pastebin.com/fV9pg3NC
[12:52] <rahulch> tomreyn: ah
[12:53] <ioria> rahulch, yuo need to do the same for  libwayland-bin
[12:55] <rahulch> ioria: there is no libwayland-bin* in /var/cahce/apt/archives/
[12:56] <ioria> rahulch,   apt-cache policy   libwayland-bin
[12:57] <rahulch> ioria: https://pastebin.com/rM8BYWE5
[12:57] <ioria> rahulch,  what happend if you try to reinstall  libwayland-bin   ? apt install --reinstall libwayland-bin
[13:01] <rahulch> ioria: https://pastebin.com/KRSprXk7
[13:03] <ioria> rahulch,  libwayland-bin is a dependency of libwayland-dev; but that ppa seems to not provide it
[13:04] <rastos2> I'm trying to learn something and for the experiments I've set up a new machine with ubuntu 18.04. And now I see that no man pages get installed "dpkg -L package" lists the man page files, the package is installed, but the files are not on the disk. Any hints?
[13:04] <ioria> rahulch,  so, or you try to force overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/libwayland-bin_1.12.0-1~ubuntu16.04.3_amd64.deb or better, install ppa-purge and purge that ppa
[13:04] <rahulch> ioria: okay, will purge the ppa
[13:04] <rahulch> how do I get the ppa name?
[13:05] <Megabyte> tomreyn, hello
[13:05] <Megabyte> Dislocker is not a GUI
[13:05] <Megabyte> Also, it requires you to type your password in a plain text file
[13:05] <Megabyte> You can see how bad this is, right?
[13:05] <mgedmin> rastos2: how did you install ubuntu?  there's a way to tell apt to prune some directories like /usr/share/man/* if you're on some kind of an embedded device with restricted disk space, but the standard installer won't do that
[13:06] <ioria> rahulch,  try ppa:wayland.admin/daily-builds
[13:06] <rastos2> mgedmin: it is actually a docker container with "FROM ubuntu:18.04" and a few packages such as apachce2 and iproute2 ...
[13:07] <rahulch> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DRqkxN8FkR/
[13:07] <tomreyn> Megabyte: depends on file ownership and whether you have encrypted storage for ubuntu, i guess. but i never used dislocker, so YMMV.
[13:08] <Megabyte> tomreyn, Is it the only solution avaliable? Isn't there anything system-integrated?
[13:08] <ioria> rahulch, that's not good; you maybe nee to rm /var/lib/apt/lists and run    sudo apt update
[13:08] <mgedmin> rastos2: ah, maybe it does something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReducingDiskFootprint#Drop_unnecessary_files to remove man pages to reduce the size of the container
[13:09] <ioria> rahulch,  rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*,   i mean
[13:09] <tomreyn> Megabyte: "apt search bitlocker" also brings up "libbde-utils" on my ubuntu 18.04 system.
[13:09] <mgedmin> rastos2: you could use https://manpages.ubuntu.com maybe?  or the dman script from the bikeshed package that downloads man pages from there and displays them locally?
[13:10] <tomreyn> Megabyte: there may be more software available (though maybe not in ubuntu, maybe from a third party), i just don't know.
[13:10] <Megabyte> yeah, tom. That's not very good :/
[13:10] <rahulch> ioria: did that, still same output
[13:11] <ioria> rahulch,  ls /var/lib/apt/lists/
[13:11] <rastos2> mgedmin: I can work around it, okay. but I want to understand what's going on. And you are right ./dpkg.cfg.d/excludes says :
[13:11] <rastos2> # Drop all man pages
[13:11] <rastos2> path-exclude=/usr/share/man/*
[13:11] <rastos2> bloody stupid if you ask me. Thanks a lot anyway.
[13:12] <rahulch> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SSMwbHs3Mn/
[13:12] <ioria> rahulch,  sudo apt update
[13:12] <mgedmin> /usr/share/man is 58 megs on my system; might be worthwhile savings for a docker image
[13:12] <tomreyn> Megabyte: have you tried decrypting a dmcrypt-luks encrypted device (probably the most common storage encryption on linux systems at this time) from windows? you'd probably also notice that your options are "not very good".
[13:13] <Megabyte> No, I don't even know what it is
[13:13] <rahulch> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bwr4sJVmvC/
[13:14] <ioria> rahulch,  Open up Software & Updates > Other Software tab > highlight relevant ppa and click the remove button.
[13:14] <rahulch> ioria: okay, will do that
[13:14] <rahulch> thanks a ton for the help :)
[13:15] <ioria> rahulch, but the point is install ppa-purge
[13:15] <tomreyn> Megabyte: my point here is: don't expect things to be easy when you're dealing with single platform (read: operating system) proprietary storage encryptions such as bitlocker from a different platform.
[13:15] <Megabyte> tomreyn, well...
[13:15] <Megabyte> https://www.m3datarecovery.com/mac-bitlocker/open-bitlocker-encrypted-usb-drive-mac-osx.html
[13:15] <Megabyte> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/351904/how-can-i-gain-access-to-the-windows-10-bitlocker-encrypted-drive-on-mac-osx
[13:16] <rahulch> ioria: yeah ppa-purge is already installed
[13:16] <Megabyte> My point being: we can make this easier
[13:16] <ioria> rahulch, so clean your system
[13:17] <tomreyn> Megabyte: you're welcome to, but please note this channel is just about ubuntu support, not discussion or development.
[13:19] <Pozzo> hello
[13:31] <pomeha> hello, how to figure out what was default protocol version of ssh for package `openssh-server/now 1:6.6p1-2ubuntu2.10`?
[13:31] <mgedmin> version 2, I'm pretty sure
[13:32] <pomeha> mgedmin: that's an old version of openssh (from Ubuntu 14.04 times), how can you be so sure?
[13:33] <mgedmin> gut feeling ;)  let me actually check https://www.openssh.com/releasenotes.html
[13:33] <tomreyn> pomeha: you asked about the protocol version, not the software version, those are separate things.
[13:34] <tomreyn> SSH protocol version 2 is the de-facto standard since quite some years now.
[13:35] <pomeha> mgedmin: thanks! OpenSSH 2.9/2.9p1 (2001-04-29)   WARNING: SSH protocol v2 is now the default protocol version
[13:37] <mgedmin> if you're concerned with compatibility, the set of supported ciphers might be more relevant
[13:37] <tomreyn> also running a non EOL ubuntu version is relevant.
[14:11] <en7ropy> Hi Folks, my installation of Chrome doesn't seem to be updating with my my Ubuntu updates.  Do I have to do this manually or is there a simple fix?
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> en7ropy: chrome is not officially supported, we use the chromium-browser as alternate
[14:16] <hggdh> en7ropy: in other words: Chrome is packaged and provided by Google, not by Ubuntu. Google has instructions on adding their Chome repo in
[14:17] <en7ropy> lotuspsychje, hggdh: Thanks guys.  Sounds like I need to manually update Chrome if I want up to date versions
[14:18] <hggdh> en7ropy: actually, no. See https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/
[14:20] <leftyfb> en7ropy: if you install the google chrome .deb package from their site, it adds their repo for you which keeps you up to date
[14:20] <leftyfb> the current release is 77.0.3865.90-1
[14:21] <en7ropy> leftyfb: gotcha.  I'm not sure how I installed it a long time ago.  My repo file got messed up somehow a while ago and I had to manually fix it.  Maybe I just have to add their lines back into that file
[14:24] <ioria> en7ropy, cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
[14:25] <leftyfb> en7ropy: reinstall the .deb from their site. That should fix up your repo and give you the latest at the same time
[14:25] <en7ropy> ioria: Thanks for that: ### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ### # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.# deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
[14:25] <en7ropy> looks like my line got commented out somehow
[14:25] <ioria> en7ropy, yep, commented
[14:26] <ioria> yeah
[14:26] <ioria> en7ropy, maybe you did a do-release-upgrade
[14:27] <en7ropy> ioria: Possibly.  I know I'm guilty of looking up solutions to problems and implementing them before I have a functional knowledge of what's happening =\
[14:27] <ioria> en7ropy, cat /var/log/installer/media-info
[14:29] <en7ropy> ioria: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS "Xenial Xerus" - Release amd64 (20160719)  ---> What the hell?  I have 18.04.3 LTS.... I'm confused
[14:30] <ioria> en7ropy, i guess you performed an upgrade
[14:31] <en7ropy> ioria: So that file will remain reporting the initial installation until reformat?
[14:31] <ioria> en7ropy, in that process usuually ppas are commented out
[14:31] <ioria> en7ropy, in that process usuually ppas are commented out
[14:31] <en7ropy> ioria: Ok, I see what you were getting at now
[14:32] <ioria> en7ropy,  but .... https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/01/ubuntu-users-can-now-keep-ppas-and.html
[14:40] <BenB>  Where do I find GnuCash 3.7 packages for Ubuntu 18.04 ? HBCI stopped working (for almost everybody in Europe) on Sept 14, and the GnuCash and aqbanking update is *required* to function
[14:40] <BenB> Nothing here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash
[14:41] <Habbie> BenB, ubuntu does not ship a newer gnucash than what you can see at https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=gnucash
[14:41] <en7ropy> ioria: thanks for the article.  I've made some notes and hope to not screw it up next time I upgrade =]
[14:41] <Habbie> BenB, in general, ubuntu does not fully upgrade packages once they've hit a release, like 18.04
[14:42] <ioria> en7ropy,  ok, no prob
[14:42] <BenB> Habbie, OK, let me rephrase: The update is required. Ubuntu *must* ship an update, otherwise users cannot continue to use it.
[14:42] <ioria> !info gnucash eoan
[14:42] <BenB> the package is broken.
[14:42] <Habbie> BenB, then you should file a ticket making this case
[14:43] <BenB> GnuCash 3.7 is required since Sept 14.
[14:43] <BenB> Habbie, well, that's a month late. the package was needed 2 weeks ago.
[14:43] <tomreyn> !latest | BenB
[14:43] <Habbie> BenB, repeating the complaint, or the 'required' statement, will do nothing
[14:43] <Habbie> BenB, filing a ticket, might do something
[14:44] <BenB> Tomreyn: I know what "stable" is. Yet, a system that does not change and stops working due to that is utterly useless.
[14:44] <ioria> BenB, you know you need a ppa (https://launchpad.net/~sicklylife/+archive/ubuntu/gnucash) and that it's not supported here
[14:45] <mgedmin> BenB: package being unusable is sufficient justification for a Stable Release Update, but somebody needs to volunteer to do that work
[14:45] <tomreyn> BenB: so you know the situation, that's pretty much all we can do for you here.
[14:45] <akza98> Use manjaro if you want "latest"
[14:45] <legreffier> BenB: must ?
[14:45] <Habbie> BenB, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnucash/+bug/1841119 covers your needs; but it does not cover your reasons, which you should add
[14:45] <mgedmin> BenB: you can read about the process in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[14:46] <legreffier> entitled much ? use the flatpak if you need an latest-available package. or ppa..
[14:48] <john_rambo> I want a rss reader that can give me AUDIO notification when new feed arrives. Is there any ?
[14:50] <BenB> legreffier, I just expect the software to work. If it stops working due to changes in legislation that have been pushlished 6 years ago (!), it's simply a failure of ubuntu to do their job.
[14:50] <Habbie> BenB, no, it's not
[14:50] <BenB> yes, it is.
[14:50] <Habbie> BenB, would you like your money back then?
[14:50] <BenB> product stops working -> fail
[14:51] <BenB> Habbie, yes, please. I've contributed many years in Open Source. And I do not leave my users hanging like that.
[14:51] <Habbie> if the legislation is six years old, we could also blame gnucash for not catching up early enough, but that would be just as dumb - that's free software too
[14:51] <BenB> We recently had an unexpected and unannounced server change that broke my software. We fixed it within a day.
[14:51] <Habbie> BenB, your check is in the mail
[14:52] <BenB> legreffier, all I was asking was for a link to the ppa that has GnuCash 3.7 for 18.04.
[14:53] <legreffier> BenB: i find it hard to believe you. have you ever read its license ? (about software being delivered as is without any kind of warranty)
[14:53] <BenB> legreffier, I have written software licenses myself.
[14:54] <BenB> still, I do not leave my users hanging dry with  broken software.
[14:54] <legreffier> https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash
[14:55] <akemhp> Maybe you can use the Windows version with Wine.
[14:55] <tomreyn> or just build from source, like a long term developer probably would.
[14:56] <BenB> legreffier, thanks. That's a helpful response.
[14:57] <humbolt> Has anybody any MAAS/juju/lxd experience here?
[14:58]  * mgedmin has once tried lxd
[14:58] <tomreyn> humbolt: /join #ubuntu-server
[15:12] <Barabacha> can I reinstall ubuntu without losing my data?
[15:13] <nikolam> Hi, anyone knows of an Linux FTP (over TLS) client app for Linux, that preserves timestamp on FOLDERS also ?
[15:13] <nikolam> Filzilla for example preserves only files timestamps.
[15:13] <Habbie> nikolam, hmm, that's not a very common thing for clients to care about indeed
[15:13] <Habbie> nikolam, why do you need/want it?
[15:14] <nikolam> Habbie, would like to mirro contents of a broken site, to have it more exactly show how long it were not updated
[15:14] <tomreyn> Barabacha: yes, you just need to restore your backups after reinstalling.
[15:14] <rypervenche> nikolam: rsync with the appropriate flags (-a, for example) would be best here.
[15:15] <rypervenche> rsync over SSH, that is.
[15:15] <nikolam> I will need to see if I can use rsync for that Cpanel hosting.
[15:15] <Habbie> rypervenche, even rsync does not mirror folder timestamps
[15:15] <Habbie> because it's pointless
[15:15] <Habbie> it also does not mean much on a server
[15:16] <tomreyn> Barabacha: if you have /home on a separate file system you can also do it, but you'll need to select manual partitioning during installation and make sure oyu don't overwrite it.
[15:16] <nikolam> I have found that Winscp can mirror timestamps on folders
[15:16] <Habbie> hmm, rsync docs claim -t (which is part of -a) does directories
[15:16] <Habbie> but a local test disagrees with that
[15:17] <Habbie> ah, i see it now, it's just Modify that it mirrors
[15:17] <Habbie> ok, so rsync does do that, sorry for the noise
[15:19] <rypervenche> It does indeed keep directory timestamps :P
[15:19] <Habbie> yes, sorry :)
[15:20] <akemhp> Do we have access to the same repositories of packages from Xubuntu or Lubuntu than with regular Ubuntu, or is it separated?
[15:20] <nikolam> :) I hope it's over that explicit FTP with TLS
[15:21] <akemhp> I mean if i install a package on Xubuntu it is exactly the same package as regular Ubuntu?
[15:21] <lordcirth> akemhp, yes, the repositories are the same.
[15:21] <BenB> ioria, thanks for the GnuCash 3.7 PPA. Indeed, it had a package that works on bionic. I've installed it and it works? how did you find that? I'm asking because I also need an update to aqbanking for it to work, and I can't see how to search launchpad for a specific package (and version or date) for a specific Ubuntu release
[15:22] <akemhp> Ok, thanks lordcirth.
[15:22] <rypervenche> nikolam: SFTP and rsync over SSH are going to be much better. With rsync you can control a lot of things like permissions and ownership during the transfer. What you want for this is rsync. You should not be using FTP at all. It's a super old and insecure protocol. That's what SFTP is for these days.
[15:22] <BenB> I've tried the launchpad search function, google, but I keep finding terribly ourdated PPAs.
[15:22] <ioria> BenB, strong is my google-fu
[15:22] <nikolam> rypervenche, that is great if I have rsync on the other side.
[15:22] <BenB> ioria, yes, apparently. can you share your keywords?
[15:23] <ioria> BenB, ppa GnuCash
[15:23] <nikolam> it's some cpanel hosting, rypervenche
[15:23] <rypervenche> nikolam: They should provide rsync, if you enable SSH access.
[15:24] <BenB> ioria, ah, yes. that works for gnucash, but not aqbanking. Thanks, though.
[15:25] <ioria> BenB, that's because there is no ppa for aqbanking-tools
[15:30] <julius_> hi
[15:30] <julius_> where does:  sudo apt install --download-only mariadb-server        that download the files to?
[15:31] <julius_> i dont have any under /var/cache/apt
[15:31] <tomreyn> echo $PWD
[15:31] <tomreyn> your working directory
[15:34] <tomreyn> ah sorry that's wrong, "apt download" would place it there, but "apt install --download-only" should indeed place it below /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:34] <tomreyn> julius_: ^
[15:36] <amosbird> Hello, if I specify 90% cpu in a cgroup. Does it mean a 90% cores or all cores but 90% usage?
[15:37] <nikolam> I found curlftps, wget -m and ftpsync (beside lftp) for that folder timestamp thing. On serverfault thread Q: "How to use rsync over FTP" A: "This is akin to asking how to use HTTP over IRC, or how to use FTP over SMTP" :))
[15:38] <Habbie> i did end up with lftp when i needed some reliability, including timestamps, last week
[15:38] <Habbie> but the situation was not much like yours
[15:40] <akza98> Ubuntu users, does gnome shell lags for you guys?
[15:40] <ioria> not about lag, maybe about mem leak
[15:40] <Habbie> akza98, only when i use wayland and let a window sit on the border between two monitors
[15:42] <julius_> tomreyn  i didnt in my case, i used apt download instead
[15:42] <rypervenche> nikolam: https://www.siteground.com/tutorials/ssh/enable/
[15:42] <akza98> It lags for me everywhere. Unity was better for me
[15:42] <Habbie> akza98, oh, sorry, i'm not on ubuntu
[15:43] <ioria> akza98, restart gnome-shell
[15:44] <rypervenche> nikolam: I would not recommend wget -m, as any file that isn't allowed access to you will not be able to download. So it may not be an exact clone. Also, depending on what flags you pass to it, it can end up renaming things in a strange way. Also, if you're using a database, it will turn all links into static HTML pages, where it can.
[15:45] <akza98> Habbie, Me neither. I'm on manjaro. But it lags in Manjaro too. Pop os was slightly better
[15:45] <nikolam> very nice of you, rypervenche . This particular cpanel doesn' have shell access.
[15:46] <nikolam> I already did refular sftp of site and now doing rsync over curlftps mounted, just to make sure.
[15:46] <rypervenche> nikolam: All right.
[15:59] <mgedmin> is there a way to see if the system was booted using UEFI or legacy boot?
[16:02] <mgedmin> ah, no /sys/firmware/efi, therefore legacy
[16:06] <mgedmin> welp, grub-install --target=x86_64-efi doesn't work when I run it from a legacy boot (no access to EFI variables)
[16:17] <mgedmin> my uefi bootable usb drive doesn't boot either, I suppose I'll have to live with legacy boot
[16:26] <jrgilman> anyone here use a thunderbolt 3 dock with their ubuntu laptop? I'm having some issues getting my external monitors to get noticed (upgraded to 19.04 from 18.04 with no luck).
[16:26] <jrgilman> one of the monitors ends up working, but the second external monitor just sits black
[16:27] <jrgilman> it's also random which monitor ends up working, it's almost as if there's a race condition happening or something along those lines
[16:27] <mgedmin> I've no idea what standards my dock uses, but I plug it in via usb c and I get an external monitor (I've only one)
[16:28] <jrgilman> I have the caldigit ts3 plus, there seem to be a few issues listed online but I'm unsure if they're the same issue after reading them
[16:29] <jrgilman> people say that gnome 3.34 seems to have fixed the issue, but 19.04 uses 3.32 and I'm not totally sure how the upgrade process for that works
[16:29] <tomreyn> you'd wait a few weeks until 19.10 releases
[16:29] <OerHeks> wait for 19.10, that gives 3.34
[16:30] <jrgilman> yeah, is there a way to force it through even if it makes the system unstable
[16:30] <jrgilman> i'm just curious if it works
[16:31] <tomreyn> it shouldn't be a gnome issue though, or if it is you can probaby work around it with xrandr
[16:31] <jrgilman> interesting
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> jrgilman: This channel focuses on what is provided, volunteers aren't going to give you information that is likely to break or corrupt your system
[16:31] <CloneZilla4Me> Hey guys, I know this is Ubuntu support but does anyone know if CloneZilla can be used in UEFI systtem (no secure boot)? I have the USB but it only boots/shows if I set Legacy+UEFI mode in BIOS.
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> CloneZilla4Me: Not supported here, please find their help forums
[16:31] <tomreyn> CloneZilla4Me: yes, you are offtopic
[16:32] <CloneZilla4Me> OK I will. Thanks!
[16:33] <jrgilman> pragmaticenigma: alright sorry
[16:33] <jrgilman> tomreyn: i'll look into xrandr
[16:34] <akemhp> My virtualbox suddenly stopped to work, i though there was an update but it's not the case, so i tried to manually modprobe the virtual driver but i get access denied although i used 'sudo', any idea please? https://pastebin.com/gcb2wkaa
[16:34] <akemhp> 'virtual box driver'*
[16:35] <lordcirth> akemhp, what kernel version?
[16:35] <akemhp> This is the message i get when trying to load the module: [18789.119193] PKCS#7 signature not signed with a trusted key
[16:35] <OerHeks> akemhp, reinstall the headers? sudo apt install --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r) virtualbox-dkms dkms # reboot, and it should work
[16:36] <akemhp> But i didn't change a thing since yesterday afaik :/
[16:36] <OerHeks> oh ..
[16:36] <akemhp> Linux akem-HP 5.0.0-27-generic #28~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 03:00:32 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:37] <OerHeks> did you install nvidia drivers/cuda?
[16:37] <akemhp> I think yesterday i updated virtualbox and it was working and now i rebooted and it's not working anymore.
[16:37] <akemhp> OerHeks, I have nvidia drivers yep.
[16:38] <akemhp> But i didn't touch anything about this since installation long time ago.
[16:38] <OerHeks> how did you update vbox? from a ppa/3rd party repo?
[16:39] <javaJake> What's the best way to get started with using KVM for local virtualization on Ubuntu Desktop? I have used VirtualBox for a long time and wanted to try KVM out
[16:39] <akemhp> I changed something in the bios tho, i removed the legacy bios and set Ubuntu to default boot instead of Windows.
[16:40] <akemhp> OerHeks, No, regular update, no ppa or anything like that.
[16:40] <OerHeks> javaJake, good start; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[16:41] <javaJake> OerHeks: OK. I saw the warning at the top of the page and got nervous.
[16:42] <akemhp> Will try to check if secure boot was enabled by mistake maybe. Or maybe i need to keep legacy bios for this to work. Bbl.
[16:44] <jrgilman> tomreyn: so here's another interesting thing btw. when I plug the third monitor in directly to my laptop's additional usb-c port it all works but there's a huge "black" dead zone in the third monitor
[16:44] <jrgilman> when they're both plugged into the dock (which does support dual monitors) it acts as before
[16:45] <pragmaticenigma> jrgilman: when in dock, is the laptop screen also used?
[16:45] <jrgilman> updating from 18.04 -> 19.04 definitely improved the above before, because when i tried to plug the third monitor in directly everything was black
[16:45] <jrgilman> yes at the moment it's open
[16:45] <jrgilman> folding it fixes that
[16:46] <jrgilman> oh you mean does it work if i plug both into the dock on second
[16:46] <jrgilman> nope, sudo xrandr --listmonitors only reports one monitor when my laptop is closed
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> jrgilman: Open != on ... many graphics chipsets are only able to drive two 4K display panels at one time
[16:47] <imi> hi, when 19.10 will be released?
[16:48] <pragmaticenigma> imi: This channel is run by volunteers, we have no insight to when Canonical will actually release their next version.
[16:48] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | imi
[16:49] <akemhp> Fixed my VirtualBox issue, when i removed legacy bios boot, the secure boot got back on automaticly, disabling it did the job.
[16:50] <imi> thanks
[16:50] <pragmaticenigma> imi: You can also look here for updates: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseSchedule
[16:50] <jrgilman> pragmaticenigma: I wonder if it's related to the nvidia chipset being off in the laptop
[16:50] <jrgilman> i just keep it permanently off
[16:51] <jrgilman> but at the same time, lenovo seems to confirm that the intel chipset should be able to support two external monitors
[16:51] <pragmaticenigma> jrgilman: You should carefully read that, it may support two external, not including the running of the onboard screen.
[16:52] <jrgilman> https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/Thinkpad-T480-with-pro-dock-on-3-monitors/m-p/4213956/highlight/true#M128273
[16:52] <jrgilman> T480 uses the same intel chipset as the p52s
[16:52] <jrgilman> maybe i'm misreading
[16:53] <jrgilman> it seems to imply that the laptop display uses one of the DP outputs, and then two are available for external monitors
[16:54] <pragmaticenigma> jrgilman: 1st problem is that is from a forum, not a knowledge base article. I personally never trust what is said in there. Next, graphics chipsets aren't limited by the number of monitors but the number of pixels they can address/drive. The chip set may only support up to the combined resolution of two 4K monitors.
[16:54] <jrgilman> sorry yeah I'm not trying to contradict you just providing more background info
[16:55] <jrgilman> my two monitors are 2560x1440 and the built in is 3640x2160
[16:55] <jrgilman> so they aren't 4K
[16:55] <jrgilman> dunno if i mentioned that earlier
[16:56] <pragmaticenigma> jrgilman: You would have to find the documentation for your graphics chipset to see what the max numbre of pixels it can support. Bandwidth limitations of the chipsets and cables will also play a factor
[16:56] <jrgilman> pragmaticenigma: you're definitely onto something here though
[16:57] <jrgilman> I dropped the resolution on my laptop screen out of curiosity and more pixels appeared on the third monitor
[16:59] <jrgilman> i guess i should try that via the dock now
[17:01] <jrgilman> yeah nothing there, I wonder if lenovo doesn't allow more than 1 external via the thunderbolt port
[17:19] <linuxr> hi all, I'm trying to identify the device of my "sd card" using lsblk..I only get an identifier though, and not a "/dev/x" device path..can someone help?
[17:21] <lordcirth> linuxr, can you pastebin what you get from lsblk?
[17:21] <lordcirth> !paste
[17:21] <usbguy1> try using "dmesg -w" to follow the kernel logs
[17:22] <usbguy1> insert your SD card and see what it returns
[17:23] <linuxr> lordcirth, the relevant part looks like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kBMDdyNB6X/
[17:24] <lordcirth> linuxr, so it should be /dev/mmcblk0
[17:27] <ioria> linuxr, did you read what usbguy1 suggested ?
[17:28] <linuxr> ioria, yep..no device name there
[17:29] <usbguy1> did you remove it and re-insert it while following the ring buffer?
[17:29] <ioria> linuxr, maybe it tells something whaen you replug it
[17:31] <linuxr> ioria, yes it tells the same device identifier which is also visible in "lsblk"
[17:32] <linuxr> just nothing like "/dev/..."
[17:32] <ioria> linuxr, can you paste it ?
[17:32] <lordcirth> linuxr, those identifiers should be under /dev.
[17:32] <usbguy1> cd to /dev/ and run the following "ls -lah | grep -i mmcblk" and see if it outputs anything
[17:33] <linuxr> ls -lah /dev | grep -i mmcblk
[17:33] <linuxr> yeah...there is the device: brw-rw----   1 root disk    179,   0 Sep 23 18:11 mmcblk0
[17:34] <usbguy1> solid
[17:34] <usbguy1> So it should be what lordcirth said a while ago
[17:34] <usbguy1>  /dev/mmcblk0
[17:34] <usbguy1> mount it with "mount /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt" and then cd /mnt to see the files
[17:35] <linuxr> yes, that should to the trick. I'm trying to write an image to it, not mount it.
[17:35] <usbguy1> That ought to do it!
[17:38] <sarashina> I've been using ubuntu 19.04 on HP Pavilion x360 dh0003-tx  for 2 month and works smoothly, but I just boot to Windows and HP did a  BIOS upgrading automatically, now I boot to ubuntu, found ubuntu cannot enable Wifi anymore... How to solve this? I've googled but didn't find similiar situation...
[17:39] <ioria> sarashina, maybe secure boot issue, try to disable it temporary
[17:39] <usbguy1> Perhaps run "ubuntu-drivers devices" to see if it's missing a driver?
[17:40] <usbguy1> You may also run "ubuntu-drivers list" to see what packages you need to install
[17:43] <sarashina> ioria: usbguy1: no...it only list nvidia drivers
[17:43] <usbguy1> shoot
[17:43] <sarashina> Oh great, I found speaker also breaks
[17:43] <usbguy1> Can you see it under lspci or lshw?
[17:44] <ioria> are we talking about wifi or what ?
[17:45] <sarashina> usbguy1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qK6MT2CcPc/
[17:47] <usbguy1> Okay, if you try to enable it does anything show up in the kernel ring buffer by running "dmesg -w"
[17:47] <sarashina> ioria: Sorry I'm rebooting after disabling secureboot
[17:50] <jeremyb> sarashina: that wifi would need Secure Boot disabled
[17:56] <sarashina> ioria: Yes, Wifi works after disabling SecureBoot...
[17:56] <sarashina> I remembered that when first boot after installing Ubuntu, ubuntu shows a MOK or whatever to finished the driver installation, how to do that again?
[17:56] <usbguy1> Nice, good call on the secure boot!
[17:57] <sarashina> But  speakers are still broken (no sound....)
[17:58] <ioria> sarashina, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS
[17:58] <ioria> afk
[18:04] <dbugger> Does anyone know if Nvidia supports Linux in any of its latests Graphic cards?
[18:05] <sarashina> ioria: Sorry, I didn't get it. Which method exactly should I do now
[18:09] <matthewstar> hello everybody ...
[18:10] <matthewstar> i have an application to share with you ...
[18:10] <matthewstar> =)
[18:10] <kostkon> matthewstar, this is the support channel
[18:10] <matthewstar> ok, i apologize
[18:10] <kostkon> !ot
[18:11] <Xtreme> Hello, How can I update libsound2 to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-lib/1.1.9-0ubuntu1 without basically crashing my whole system?
[18:11] <Xtreme> Before someone asks, my mic doesnt work.
[18:38] <ikonia>  /win 10
[18:46] <Kon-> Can the package manager remove specific old kernels? I want to clear up some space but I need to keep at least one old kernel I run on
[18:47] <remline> Kon-, yes, you can mark specific packages as "manually" installed. Then, you should be able to do an "apt autoremove" to remove the old kernels.
[18:49] <tomreyn> if you have the matching tracking package installed and thus the specific kernel image packages got set as being automatically installed you should be able to apt autoremove to remove all by the latest two and the currently running kernel.
[18:52] <jrgilman> tomreyn: pragmaticenigma: i think this is a docking station issue, i ordered a docking station with confirmed linux compatibility and will try that out i guess
[18:59] <ioria> sarashina, still there ?
[19:07] <alfatau> hi everybody! I'm working with ubuntu-gnome 16.04. My network connections are handled by NetworkManager. I need to add an additional ip alias to my nic. Is it possible to do it by using the NetworkManager GUI?
[19:09] <Ben64> yeah you just add a new address
[19:10] <ioria> alfatau, you can use nmtui - edit - add
[19:26] <rishav> Hello!
[19:27] <rishav> Does anyone know how to have Hibernate / Sleep option in Ubuntu 18.04.03 LTS?
[19:29] <qwebirc95665> hello, i followed this tutorial to install lol on my pc: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spiele/League_of_Legends/ sadly it says only how to install it, not how to open... i found a desktopicon, but its seem to dont work. i opend property => command and posted that in a terminal and that gave me back : env: ‘/opt/wine-staging/bin/wine’: No such file or directory
[19:30] <qwebirc95665> original command: env WINEPREFIX="/home/user/.wine-appimage-lol" /opt/wine-staging/bin/wine C:\\windows\\command\\start.exe /Unix /home/user/.wine-appimage-lol/dosdevices/c:/users/Public/Desktop/League\ of\ Legends.lnk
[19:33] <dchapman> !ot
[19:33] <fuze> Anyone know how I can resolve this error with make? https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenAuraSDK/issues/34#note_220137922
[19:35] <dax> dchapman: #ubuntu-offtopic isn't for support.
[19:37] <dax> for this sort of thing, I'd guess either here or #winehq, or whoever's providing the WINE packages that tutorial uses (I don't speak German so no idea)
[19:47] <qwebirc95665> it seems the /opt/wine-staging/bin/wine part is missing
[19:48] <qwebirc95665> i guess the installer forgot to place any files at this place
[19:48] <OerHeks> qwebirc95665, not an ubuntu issue, but PlayOnlinux?  anyway, join the #winehq channel for support
[19:48] <OerHeks> !wine
[19:48] <qwebirc95665> no on play on linux nothing works
[19:49] <qwebirc95665> thats why i tryed the https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spiele/League_of_Legends/ tutorial
[19:49] <zamba> accounts-daemon is consuming all of my cpu
[19:50] <leftyfb> qwebirc95665: /opt/wine-staging is not installed by any package available in ubuntu. Sorry, but we cannot support it here.
[19:50] <OerHeks> that guide gives an unofficial download, appimage.. still a wine issue, and as it is not from our repos, sorry
[19:50] <uRock> what would cause journald to use 100% of a CPU core?
[19:54] <rishav> How to enable Hibernate in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and make it work correctly. I tried using sudo systemctl hibernate. But after turning on the computer I lost all opened applicattions
[19:54] <rishav> Can anyone help me regarding this
[19:59] <genii> rishav: Do you have a swapfile or swap partition which is the same size or larger than the amount of RAM your computer has?
[20:00] <rishav> genii, Yes I do have swap partition which is double the size of my RAM
[20:00] <genii> ( this is required for Hibernate and Suspend to work)
[20:03] <genii> rishav: You may then need to add a resume=UUID=uuid-of-swap-partition-goes here      in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=    section of /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub
[20:05] <genii> rishav: You can find the UUID of the swap partition with: sudo blkid | grep swap
[20:07] <rishav> I am new linux I am not able to what you said
[20:08] <rishav> genii, :(
[20:10] <genii> rishav: OK. So first, open up Terminal, and issue: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit           ...then after that finishes: sudo blikd | grep swap     ...and let us know here the URL which it gives you so further instructions can be given
[20:10] <genii> whups...
[20:10] <genii> sudo blkid | grep swap | pastebinit   ...rather
[20:11]  * genii goes to answer the phone
[20:11] <rishav> I have been open to the grub file in editor
[20:11] <rishav> I have been able to open the GRUB file in editor
[20:12] <rishav> Except 6 lines everything in commented out in that file
[20:13] <genii> rishav: This is extraneous non-useful information
[20:14] <rishav> resume=UUID=uuid-of-swap-partition-goes  ..... should I insert this line in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[20:14] <leif> I keep bumping my touchpad while typing, is there any way to change the specifics of palm rejection in ubuntu?
[20:15] <leif> So if I just nick the touchpad with my thumb, my cursor doesn't go flying accross the screen?
[20:15] <leif> (I'm using a precision 5530 developer edition if hat helps)
[20:15] <leif> if that*
[20:15] <genii> rishav: First you need to know the real UUID to put in place of where I wrote "uuid-of-swap-partition" ... which you find with the: sudo blkid | grep swap   command I gave just earlier
[20:18] <leif> I also remember changing a setting in xinput that helped a lot, but I can't seem to find the setting, or the script where I set it.
[20:19] <rishav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Prj9HyRCvK/
[20:19] <rishav> genii, Here is the link
[20:21] <cris_> Hi, can someone help me? I have created a usb of linux, using [dd if=linux.iso of=sdb] Now I want that in this usb, in addition to running this OS, I wanna have a storage partition for the configuration of the system and the programs or documents that you download on the same pen drive (can be all in the same partition, the important is save changes) . Is that possible?
[20:22] <cris_> Or does that depend on the iso and you don't have to touch anything else?
[20:22] <cris_> (in this case is a ISO of Ubuntu, the last)
[20:24] <genii> rishav: So now, you need to open the file /etc/default/grub   with administrator rights for editing. Most often it is easiest to do this in Terminal with: sudo nano /etc/default/grub      ... and the line which normally reads as:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""  change to be: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="resume=UUID=9dc7db5f-62e6-449c-b736-d5739e83ea38"   and then use: CTRL and x key together to finish editing, hit the Enter key when asked for the name to save the file
[20:24] <genii> as.
[20:25] <genii> ...and he left while I was typeing :-/
[20:25] <JimBuntu> cris_, while that is how you used to make bootable CDs, that's not generally how you make a bootable USB normally. Were you following instructions from the source of the ISO?
[20:25] <uRock> cris_, this may be helpful https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986594
[20:26] <cris_> mmm
[20:26] <cris_> im here
[20:26] <cris_> and so thanks
[20:27] <uRock> This may help, too. cris_ https://kali.training/topic/adding-persistence-to-the-live-iso/
[20:27] <cris_> jimbuntu, no, i use DD because is hybrid (uefi or legacy) and easy to do, and i like do it with the terminal xD
[20:28] <cris_> and thanks you too for the links urock ^
[20:28] <cris_> ^^
[20:28] <cris_> and geni, you are an angel :)
[20:30] <rishav> genii
[20:30] <uRock> JimBuntu, I've not used a GUI for creating USBs in a long time.
[20:31] <rishav> Sorry my internet connection went down for some moments. Did you give any further instruction?
[20:32] <rishav> genii, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Prj9HyRCvK/
[20:34] <meygerjo2> hello
[20:38] <genii> rishav: Please wait a moment and I will give further instructions, my work is currently busy and I have limited time for assisting
[20:38] <genii> rishav: So now, you need to open the file /etc/default/grub   with administrator rights for editing. Most often it is easiest to do this in Terminal with: sudo nano /etc/default/grub      ... and the line which normally reads as:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""  change to be: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="resume=UUID=9dc7db5f-62e6-449c-b736-d5739e83ea38"   and then use: CTRL and x key together to finish editing, hit the Enter key when asked for the name to save the file
[20:38] <genii> as.
[20:39] <genii> rishav: These are the instructions I wrote earlier but then you got disconnected before seeing them
[20:39] <genii> afk 5-7 minutes
[20:40] <rishav> genii, thanks for your valuable assistance. I am really sorry for getting disconnected, due to some connectivity issues.<3
[20:42] <genii> rishav: The next step is to make the changes take effect the next time the computer boots, by updating GRUB with the command:  sudo update-grub
[20:43] <genii> rishav: After this, you may want to reboot and test if the Hibernate works properly, and then report back here with the results
[20:43] <meygerjos> hey, when I'm in tty3 how do I open files that require windowing such as pdf and image files?  I understand they would have to open in tty2 running GNOME
[20:46] <tomreyn> meygerjos: right, you'll need to have them interact with an X display. you can use the DISPLAY environment variable to point them to the X display to use, e.g. DISPLAY=:0 evince /path/to/my.pdf
[20:46] <rishav> Okay genii, I will revert back after testing <3......
[20:51] <koffel> i have a question might be stupid but here it is anyway can ubuntu 32bit see more then 8 cores?
[20:53] <meygerjos> tomreyn thanks
[20:57] <Smaug> hey all.  anyone have experience installing Ubuntu  (16 or 18) on a Lenovo Thinkpad P1 (gen 2)?  I am considering getting such a laptop, but want it to work with ubuntu of course :)
[20:57] <rishav> genii Thankyou so much for your help! <3
[20:57] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | Smaug
[20:58] <genii> rishav: So your Hibernate is working properly now?
[20:58] <rishav> It is working fine, I tested Hibernate just now, and it worked correctly..
[20:58] <Smaug> anyone have experience installing Ubuntu  (16.04 or 18.04) on a Lenovo Thinkpad P1 (gen 2)?  I am considering getting such a laptop, but want it to work with ubuntu of course :)
[20:58] <rishav> Yes genii!!!
[20:58] <genii> rishav: Excellent. Glad to assist.
[20:59] <rishav> Thank you again... <3..
[21:00] <uRock> Smaug, you'd have to share system specs for anyone to contemplate that question.
[21:06] <Smaug> it's "certified" by Ubuntu as working hardware, but I don't know how much to trust that
[21:07] <Smaug> https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/P1-Gen-2/p/22WS2WPP102
[21:08] <Smaug> I was thinking of going for quadro 2000, 32 G or 64 G RAM.
[21:08] <koffel> i gona take that is a no you can not make it see more then 8 cores lol
[21:09] <tomreyn> koffel: i think that theoretically it could be up to 32, but at least in past 32-bit ubuntu releases it has been 8. this may be a needed tradeoff (e.g. where allowing more CPU cores effectively also means less flexibility with addressing RAM). have you actually tried? this may return the amount of combined CPUs and CPU cores supported by a given linux kernel (and architecture): grep CONFIG_NR_CPUS /boot/config-`uname -r`
[21:11] <koffel> says 8
[21:11] <tomreyn> so you could maybe build your own kernel and set this higher, but i guess it's probably not a good idea anyways.
[21:12] <koffel> yeah
[21:12] <tomreyn> koffel: what made you ask?
[21:12] <koffel> i have 2 xeons
[21:12] <tomreyn> and you don't run 64-bit ubuntu because?
[21:13] <koffel> i wanted to use xeons but 64 bit dont work for it
[21:13] <tomreyn> why so?
[21:13] <koffel> linuxmce only runs in 32 bit mode
[21:14] <koffel> i have dell 710 ith 2 xeons and 192 gb ram
[21:15] <tomreyn> koffel: okay, we only support ubuntu here, though, please don't ask about derivatives here in the future.
[21:16] <tomreyn> we'll be happy to support ubuntu (and kubuntu), though
[21:16] <koffel> sorry  they use kubuntu
[21:16] <tomreyn> !linuxmce
[21:17] <tomreyn> they're effectively a derivate
[21:17] <koffel> i see
[21:17] <koffel> i was just curious about ubuntu side that was all
[21:19] <genii> The last LinuxMCE update was more than 3 years ago, it sems to be abandonware now
[21:23] <pragmaticenigma> Smaug: The certification process is based on real world testing. If it is listed as certified, it will run Ubuntu. As indicated by the End User License Agreement. Ubuntu comes with no warranty and as with all software, you experience may differ from someone else. This channel is focuses on providing to existing installations of Ubuntu. If you are interested in recommendations, please visit the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[21:23] <lenny_lemon> hi, how can I safely resize my system partition?
[21:23] <Smaug> pragmaticenigma: ty
[21:24] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: by creating backups
[21:26] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: for the resizing you then *then* use the "disks" or (after installing it) the "gparted" application from the ubuntu desktop installer live iso, or the (unsupported here) gparted live iso
[21:27] <lenny_lemon> bit more advanced for newbie in ubuntu... googling translation what did u write tomreyn... :)
[21:28] <pragmaticenigma> lenny_lemon: what is your native language, there are support channels that can provide help in a language that is easier for you to understand
[21:29] <lenny_lemon> is not about language... is technical pragmaticenigma, but thanks... prefer english, even as my 2nd language...
[21:30] <pragmaticenigma> lenny_lemon: What tomreyn is telling you is to start with, you need to make a back up of your data. Resizing a partition carries a lot of risk, a back up will make sure you do not lose anything important if something goes wrong.
[21:30] <pragmaticenigma> lenny_lemon: After that, this quick guide should help you out: https://askubuntu.com/a/18525
[21:31] <lenny_lemon> pragmaticenigma, thanks
[21:32] <tomreyn> i would not recommend running gparted from the existing ubuntu installation, though, but to boot some ubuntu form removable media and run it there
[21:33] <lenny_lemon> i did install it form live usb as there was only option to save my dead laptop tomreyn, pragmaticenigma
[21:34] <tomreyn> you installed what from live usb, and where to?
[21:35] <tomreyn> and what was (or is?) dead about your laptop?
[21:35] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, pragmaticenigma I cannot access bios or boot order anymore as laptop came with win8 and after I resize it I lost access to it. after crashing my hdd I bought new one and install from live usb to new hdd. this is only os in laptop. but partition I want to take from is ntfs (900GB)
[21:36] <e> w 42
[21:36] <e> oops
[21:36] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: "partition [you] want to take from"? i don't understand this part.
[21:37] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, i want to resize system partition for linux and I want to take it from ntfs partition
[21:38] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jSwBRKY9ys/
[21:39] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, is it sda1 what I'm looking for to expand?
[21:39] <tomreyn> ah you're saying you have an ubuntu file system and partition on your single working (and physically installed, in your laptop) storage as well as an NTFS file system and partition, and you want to shrink the ntfs file system and partition and to grow the ubuntu file system and partition. that's indeed something you can do by booting off the ubuntu installer, installing gparted there if not already installed, and running gparted.
[21:40] <tomreyn> is sdb a usb stick then?
[21:40] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, yes. I have gparted installed
[21:41] <spaceghost> Hello.
[21:41] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, sdb is usb yes
[21:42] <spaceghost> I am trying to open a swf file already downloaded to my laptop but when i put on open with and a browser it offers me to download it instead of just play it.
[21:42] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: sda contains two non swap Linux file systems, i could not tell which of these you want to resize
[21:42] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, I tried to upgrade distro to ubuntu 18 but low disk space...
[21:43] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, my guess is sda1, but i'm not sure. how can i find out?
[21:43] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: you should be able to tell by the file system sizes
[21:44] <tomreyn> sda1 is 18.6GB, sda3 is 91.3GB. while booted into Ubuntu from sda, run "lsblk" and "df -h"
[21:45] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HPjWnH2YTc/
[21:47] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: sda1 and sda3 are both almost full
[21:47] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, can extend both, or what do you recommend?
[21:47] <tomreyn> sda1 contains /, sda3 contains your encrypted home directory.
[21:48] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: at this time, i don't have enough understanding of your needs to recommend anything
[21:50] <OerHeks> enlarging linux partitions and encrypted .. i would wipe and reinstall, after decreasing the windows partition sda4
[21:50] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: it's also a bit weird that you have an efi system partition on sdb (your usb stick) but not on sda (your physically installed standard storage, from what i understand).
[21:54] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, laptop had UEFI safe boot enabled when I tried to install ubuntu along win8 and after failing to get into boot order or bios to turned off I don't have access to.
[21:54] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, ubuntu has microsoft signature so I did let me install it and turn off while installed
[21:55] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, I can resize both sda1 and sda3
[21:57] <tomreyn> fine with me, just dont forget to maker those backups first. and i agree that reinstalling may well be the better option
[21:57] <genii> For those interested in adding the grub resume from swap UUID for Hibernate to work, in a one-liner which selects the first swap partition UUID found: grubswap=$(echo -e GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=\"resume=UUID=$(sudo blkid| grep swap|cut -d' ' -f2|cut -d'"' -f2|head -n1)\ )&& sudo sed -i "s/GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=\"/$grubswap/g" /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub
[21:57] <lenny_lemon> tomreyn, reinstall whole ubuntu?
[21:57] <tomreyn> lenny_lemon: yes, as previously suggested by OerHeks
[21:57]  * genii locks the office door and cranks the tunes
[21:58] <OerHeks> one could easily increase partitions, but with encrypted /home/ you have a lot more work
[21:59] <lenny_lemon> OerHeks, so what is the process steps? can I backup and reinstall without encrypting again?
[22:00] <lenny_lemon> can remove encryption from /home ?
[22:00] <OerHeks> sure, encryption is a seperate page during install, just don't choose lvm/encryption
[22:00] <tomreyn> why not, it's a laptop
[22:01] <lenny_lemon> i'm using it at home only anyway...
[22:01] <uRock> Trying to run updates in ubuntu but getting "sudo: apt: command not found" does 9.10 only do apt-get?
[22:01] <tomreyn> i see
[22:01] <OerHeks> uRock, lols .. why do you ask about an ancient ubuntu?
[22:01] <tomreyn> !9.10 | uRock
[22:01] <jeremyb> uRock: does it mater with 9.10
[22:02] <OerHeks> apt is better over apt-get
[22:03] <uRock> OerHeks, Having fun playing with the old install. jeremyb nah, doesn't seem like that ancient version had "apt". I won't ask anymore about it, lol.
[22:05] <uRock> I do wish I could get that theming in Xubuntu 18.04 though. I loved the coloring.
[22:05] <lenny_lemon> OerHeks, tomreyn can I remove encryption from /home now? is it only /home encrypted?
[22:06] <OerHeks> for decryption of home, we advise to make a new user, add  it to sudoers, copy data  and wipe the old encrypted home
[22:06] <OerHeks> but you have no space to do so..
[22:07] <lenny_lemon> OerHeks, can I take piece of ntfs partition and convert it and use it for that?
[22:08] <OerHeks> sure, copy it to the current ntfs
[22:09] <OerHeks> but you also need to make that ntfs partition smaller, do this from within windows
[22:09] <styles> Hey, I need to recompile nginx. I've got all the deps (zlib, opensll, pcre) for my version and I need to choose the configuration options. Is there a way to see what each distro (Ubuntu 16.04) is using to build by default? I was digging into the apt repository but I wasn't sure how they're building the packages or where that would live.
[22:09] <lenny_lemon> OerHeks, only ubuntu 16.04 run on my laptop
[22:11] <OerHeks> gparted/disks utility might be able to do so too, but we recommend windows to avoid windows issues, but clearly not your case.
[22:12] <lenny_lemon> OerHeks, in gparted I see over 150GB unallocated space...
[22:15] <lenny_lemon> i have converted into ext4 and should I copy whole /home folder into it? OerHeks
[22:17] <OerHeks> all data that you need, i would not copy all hidden folders, unless you have a reason to do that
[22:18] <lenny_lemon> don't have any hidden folders for my personal use. is there any command to easily copy just data what i need?
[22:19] <OerHeks> your mouse?
[22:19] <lenny_lemon> :D
[22:19] <OerHeks> silly invenion by xerox, it still works
[22:22] <lenny_lemon> under lsblk i can see sda5 but i don't see it in df -h or when I open files
[22:23] <OerHeks> that is good, it is a windows system partition
[22:23] <lenny_lemon> but i converted it into ext4
[22:26] <DOSfan> soooo I failed an exam today ... 'hurrrrahhhaa' for me ... in lower case since no pass ;)
[22:27] <jeremyb> DOSfan: wrong channel
[22:58] <sarashina> I've been using ubuntu 19.04 on HP Pavilion x360 dh0003-tx  for 2 month and works smoothly, but I just boot to Windows and HP did a  BIOS upgrading automatically, now ubuntu cannot use Wifi unless disable SecureBoot, how to solve this?
[22:59] <sarashina> I've checked this but I still totally cannot get it (incomprehensible mechanisms...)... Which method should I follow right now? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS
[23:00] <Mekely> hello can someone assist me, i am installing ubuntu on my 2 in 1 laptop tablet and i have had a issue similar to this, adding the boot flag to my hdd fixed it but this time around it didn't
[23:00] <Mekely> i got a error in my install and this is the return the `grub-efi-amd64-signed` package failed to install into / target/. without the grub boot loader, the installed system will not boot
[23:00] <Mekely> any assistance would be greatly appreciated
[23:00] <sarashina>  I remembered that when first boot after installing Ubuntu, ubuntu automatically shows a MOK screen to finished the driver installation, how to do that automatically again?
[23:06] <ryuo> sarashina: sounds like the signing key may have been deleted from the BIOS.
[23:07] <ryuo> sarashina: no idea how to fix it... i don't use secure boot, but you'll likely need to find the key used to signed the module and reinstall it.
[23:07] <OerHeks> not sure this hpp 360 forumpost is any help https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2414086
[23:09] <ryuo> Mekely: "boot flag"? that should only matter if you're using conventional booting.
[23:09] <ryuo> Mekely: the installer is trying to use UEFI.
[23:09] <Mekely> and how would i disable that, and or make it properly use uefi
[23:10] <OerHeks> sarashina,  sudo mokutil --disable-validation from https://askubuntu.com/questions/1071299/how-to-install-wi-fi-driver-for-realtek-rtl8821ce-on-ubuntu-18-04
[23:10] <ryuo> Mekely: that's something you can do from the BIOS, but we can't even say for sure why it failed without a log.
[23:11] <Mekely> that was the log i posted, it was the only thing it returned
[23:11] <Mekely> the `grub-efi-amd64-signed` package failed to install into / target/. without the grub boot loader, the installed system will not boot
[23:11] <Mekely> i have my computer setup without secure boot
[23:12] <Mekely> purely so i can boot on a live usb to isntall
[23:12] <ryuo> Mekely: that's the error message, not a log.
[23:12] <ryuo> Mekely: a log would include details from the actual install process.
[23:13] <Mekely> i apologize i have retried the install and if the error happens again would you like to assist me to find the log?
[23:14] <ryuo> could someone else do it? I don't even know where it would be.
[23:14] <ryuo> i don't even use the regular installer anymore. o.O
[23:14] <Mekely> lol
[23:14] <ryuo> debootstrap. <3
[23:24] <sarashina> OerHeks: Eeee.... I (1) disabled secureboot in BIOS (2) did `sudo mokutil --disable-validation`  it ask me password twice, then (3) `sudo apt-get install --reinstall git dkms build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)` then (4) reboot, now (5) I stuck in blue screen's "Change Secure Boot status" but it keeps asking me "Enter password character N:" (N is any integer, for example, 7, 5, 11)
[23:24] <sarashina> WTF...