[05:11] <Guest_55> hey, anyone here?
[05:11] <Guest_55> I was wondering...
[05:11] <Guest_55> in a plain xubuntu install
[05:11] <Guest_55> is there any compiler?
[05:11] <Guest_55> i tried g++ and gcc without success
[05:12] <Unit193> You can install build-essential
[05:12] <Guest_55> I know...
[05:12] <Guest_55> But I was wondering...
[05:12] <Guest_55> nothing without installing?
[05:13] <Unit193> IIRC, no.
[05:13] <Guest_55> IIRC?
[05:13] <Guest_55> ok
[05:13] <Guest_55> if I recall correctly, sorry...
[05:14] <Guest_55> the javascript console?
[05:14] <Guest_55> Does that count as a compiler?
[05:15] <Guest_55> there is also the python interpreter...
[05:15] <Guest_55> It sounds strange to me that there is no c compiler...
[05:16] <Guest_55> Should be strange also that git is not installed...
[05:16] <Guest_55> I mean
[05:16] <Guest_55> why?
[05:16] <Unit193> Precisely: Why?  This is a binary distribution, a lot of users simply have no need for a C compiler.
[05:16] <Guest_55> there is python, there is javascript
[05:17] <Guest_55> I was just experimenting with an offline virtual machine
[05:17] <Guest_55> I assumed that in order to update it had to compile something sometimes...
[05:17] <Guest_55> I guess that it gets only binaries then...
[05:18] <Unit193> Those are interpreted languages, not compiled.
[05:19] <Guest_55> true, but still higher level than c
[05:20] <Guest_55> I assumed that in a 1.5 gigabytes of image somehow git and gcc could fit...
[05:20] <Guest_55> and vim maybe...
[05:29] <Guest_55> WAIT WAIT WAIT
[05:29] <Guest_55> gdb is there?!
[05:29] <Guest_55> Why do you have a debugger without a compiler?
[05:30] <Guest_55> That's SOOOO wrong!
[05:30] <Guest_55> There must be an hidden c compiler somewhere
[05:38] <Guest_55> Really?!?
[05:38] <Guest_55> Am I the only one asking this question?
[05:50] <Guest_55> Unit193, you lied to me!
[05:50] <Guest_55> There is a compiler
[05:50] <Guest_55> is just not aliased
[05:50] <Guest_55> and completely muted
[05:51] <Guest_55> it is in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/7.4.0 under the name cc1
[05:51] <Guest_55> Thank you for misleading me
[05:51] <Guest_55> very helpful community!
[05:57] <nikolam> I again have problem with displaying audio volume notification, after changing volume level in upper right corner
[05:57] <nikolam> Displaying notification interferes with changing volume level after I just changed, notification is displayed over the volume and I can't change volume until notification closes
[05:58] <nikolam> solution would be to move notification displaying position not to display over the volume i am trying to set, or to turn it down
[05:59] <Unit193> I use scroller over the icon, not that it's a solution.
[05:59] <nikolam> It interferes by default, that is asking to be changed.
[15:00] <furycd001> HI guys.. Have a problem with Suspend not working on my fully up-to-date Xubuntu 18.04.3 system.
[15:00] <furycd001> In power manager I have the system set to suspend whenever the lid is closed. Be it on battery or charger. Whenever I open the lid the laptop powers back up, but the screen on stays black.
[15:01] <furycd001> I can "CTRL+ALT+F1", login & then do "sudo service lightdm restart" to get back into my desktop on tty7.
[15:01] <furycd001> How can I fix this so that suspend just works and that I don't have to keep restarting with that command. Many thanks in advanced for commenting and helping....
[15:09] <Spass> hello furycd001, solution for that problem is to disable screen locking completely or change light-locker to something else, like gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver
[15:10] <Spass> light-locker causes some issues on bionic unfortunately, but fortunately it will be changed to xfce4-screensaver in the new Xubuntu releases
[15:13] <furycd001> In power manager I can switch suspend to lock screen and that works but it uses up my battery. Is my best solution to install xscreensaver ??
[15:14] <Spass> worth trying, it worked for me (light-locker was failing, xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver work fine)
[15:15] <furycd001> Ok thank you for the help :)
[15:16] <Spass> right now I'm on xfce4-screensaver from PPA and it also works good, so… yeah, light-locker is the bionic's weak link
[15:17] <furycd001> Guess I'll switch away from it now then.
[18:07] <sublevel> Looking for a way to disable the alt+number change tabs shortcut in xfce4-terminal (because I want it to be sent to my irc client, weechat).   Any suggestions?  I'm on 18.04
[18:23] <sublevel> Found an answer https://docs.xfce.org/apps/terminal/start   - just need to test if it persists across reboots
[18:25] <remline> sublevel, nice -- good find
[18:25] <sublevel> Another question:  I get a blank screen after waking from suspend on a thinkpad t450. If I enter my password it comes on. Websearch turned up various suggestions to fix - is there a known best method?
[18:46] <Spass> sublevel, it will be a capy/paste from what I wrote not so long ago on this channel, but it seems to be the same problem
[18:46] <Spass> possible solution for that problem is to disable screen locking completely or change light-locker to something else, like gnome-screensaver or xscreensaver
[18:48] <sublevel> Spass: thanks.  I may give this a try also  https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/issues/108
[18:58] <sublevel> Spass: github messed with my address bar, specifically this part:  https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/issues/108#issuecomment-502404552
[18:59] <Spass> sublevel, thanks for the link, good to know
[18:59] <sublevel> it's for 19.04 but may help me on 18.04 too
[20:20] <sublevel> Made that change to logind.conf and rebooted, far as I can tell it hasn't made a differen. I think I'll just live with it for now
[20:28] <brainwash> sublevel: is that an intel gpu and is
[20:28] <brainwash> xorg-server-hwe-18.04 installed?
[20:33] <sublevel> brainwash: intel yes.  apt list --installed does not mention that package
[20:37] <brainwash> sublevel: it only shows xorg-server which should be a version 1.19.x, correct?
[20:37] <brainwash> be at
[20:37] <brainwash> for 1.20 we have this report: bug 1801609
[20:39] <sublevel> nothing on apt's list mentions xorg-server
[20:44] <brainwash> xserver-xorg-core
[20:44] <brainwash> xserver-xorg-core-hwe-18.04
[20:44] <brainwash> check those then
[20:44] <sublevel> yes,   xserver-xorg-core-hwe-18.04/bionic-updates,now 2:1.20.4-1ubuntu3~18.04.1 amd64
[20:45] <brainwash> then the linked bug report is relevant
[20:45] <brainwash> it has a workaround in the comments
[20:45] <sublevel> thankyou!
[20:58] <sublevel> Tried the X11 .conf method,  any keyboard/mouse activity after resuming makes the screen come on now - great.
[21:01] <brainwash> good
[22:07] <uRock> Does anyone know of where I can get the brown theming from ubuntu 9.10 for Xubuntu 18.04? Documentation on creating myself would be awesome if anyone has a link to it.
[22:09] <Aavar> uRock: I believe someone posted something on reddit the other day. Let me see if I can find ut.
[22:09] <Aavar> I don't know if that was xfce...
[22:09] <uRock> Aavar, that'd be awesome!
[22:13] <Aavar> uRock: I can't find the post... sorry
[22:13] <Aavar> I believe the style was called "Human"
[22:14] <uRock> It's all good. Thanks! I'll see what I can dig up.