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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL946017d86763: Add move left on quick launch] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL946017d8676300:31
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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALabc1b69d608d: Add changing month of calendar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALabc1b69d608d00:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL33d11c849265: Add selecting year on calendar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL33d11c84926500:56
lynoriantfw I find a feature even I did not know existed on lxqt panel00:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7fe9278c510d: Split paragraph to keep volume widget near text that describes it] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7fe9278c510d01:05
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4aa4ce1fa9aa: Minor reword after moving text before] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4aa4ce1fa9aa01:08
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8ef6a7f3138a: Use correct there] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8ef6a7f3138a01:13
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9da711871a6c: Split sentences of having full width panel alignment do nothing] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9da711871a6c01:18
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL51ca9a8b8fbf: Add dragging items around on taskbar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL51ca9a8b8fbf01:32
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa615a346e265: Split run on sentence on volume] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa615a346e26501:40
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc0ca32a158e1: Add rows field to panel configuration] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc0ca32a158e101:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [<reply to image>], This in a vm?03:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [after 2nd reboot neither runner nor menu works. Althogh NONE of them are duplica …], Try restarting runner once. From session settings.03:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, same for panel.03:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I am sorry I don't have my test system near me and can't test. I will try to look into this once I am free and have my hands on the system. Mostly just before Dusshera i.e 5th.03:36
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [This in a vm?], Yes07:37
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Try restarting runner once. From session settings.], Yes that still works07:37
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [Yes], Check on bare metal, last time I checked, super key survived reboots.08:43
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [Yes that still works], Noted.08:43
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [Check on bare metal, last time I checked, super key survived reboots.], Will try (I don't see why it should be different), but if it works we still need to solve it in vm09:41
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [Will try (I don't see why it should be different), but if it works we still need …], I did face that difference in my vm and test machine so. Just a try.10:10
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [Will try (I don't see why it should be different), but if it works we still need …], Yup! We will need to solve it in a vm.10:10
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Beta] has been updated (20190925)10:32
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker erasing ~./config/lxqt/globalkeys.conf and reboot make things work again.12:26
The_LoudSpeakerlke everything works? even after multiple reboots?12:27
lubot<HMollerCl> haven't tried multiple reboot, but I believe multiple reoots will make it fail again12:27
The_LoudSpeakerhmmm. Noted.12:28
The_LoudSpeakeris there any option in cala to see the things that are happening in the background? It currently shows : :filling filesystems" or "installing bootloader", etc. In prevous installer there was an option to see the details, something like a details button which would show the commands running behind the scenes in a dialoguebox below it.13:22
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker I thought you where studying.... ;)13:25
The_LoudSpeakerI am.13:25
The_LoudSpeakerbut I am also setting up a vm in the background.13:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#239313:50
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> 1st boot: everything works14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> 1st reboot:14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> browser and qps repeated. runner italics. but repeated ones work. only runner doesn't14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> restarted runner from session settings, it fixed it.14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> 2nd reboot:14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> browser, qps, lock, terminal, pcmanfm-qt, print, brightness, calculator, homepage, mail, mycomputer repeated14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> all /panel/ shortcuts and runner italics.14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> repeated ones work. italics one don't14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> restarting panel and runner fixes them14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> reboot 3:14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> exactly same as reboot 2 except that the repeated entries for each increased by 1(ctrl+alt+b is still only repeated once.)14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> same fix14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> now, deleted the local globalkeys config before restarting.14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> reboot 414:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> everything works.14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> reboot 5:14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> same as reboot 2.14:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> Cycle repeats.14:24
The_LoudSpeakerthis is the observation right @HMollerCl ?14:25
lubot<HMollerCl> yes14:27
lubot<HMollerCl> as strange as it can be14:28
The_LoudSpeakerI will checkout more after 5 now. I just had sometime to test so did this and edited draft beta announcement. Will be gone now. tag me here if you find aything.14:29
The_LoudSpeaker*anything14:29
The_LoudSpeakerAlso, @lynorian, can you please update the manual to include the updated shortcuts? I will create a paste with list and tag you. Links to that man page will be required in the announcement.14:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> https://phab.lubuntu.me/P4715:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6b40eb49854d: Update backlight changing keys] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6b40eb49854d16:39
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL980e2df86885: Specify qterminal as terminal you open] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL980e2df8688516:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL45c685a7d1b3: Update launching firefox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL45c685a7d1b316:52
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4bcf4f3f4ffe: Specifiy qterminal again] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4bcf4f3f4ffe16:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3d4632f0a985: Update desktop switching to xth desktop shortcuts] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3d4632f0a98517:01
wxl^ briefly read that and whoa, that's the weirdest thing i've ever heard of.17:02
wxlanyone check this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/184167217:03
ubot93Launchpad bug 1841672 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu Eoan) "CryptSetup packages should not be removed by `apt-get autoremove` on system installed with encryption and LVM" [Undecided, Triaged]17:03
lynorianwhat is that wxl?17:03
wxl@lynorian: the weird cyclic behavior of shortcuts across reboots17:03
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @lynorian: the weird cyclic behavior of shortcuts across reboots], actualyy login/logout does the same17:17
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker did you have compiled lxat-globalkeys from git? I want to test if problem is solved wih it.18:31
lubot<HMollerCl> Did I need to create package or can compile directly from git?18:32
lubot<HMollerCl> also wxl, do you know? ^18:42
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> You can directly compile and install from git.19:07
lubot<HMollerCl> cmake gives me an error19:11
lubot<HMollerCl> cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr .  … CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:27 (find_package): …   By not providing "Findlxqt.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this project has …   asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by "lxqt", but …   CMake did not find one. …   Could not find a package configuration file provided by "lxqt19:12
lubot" (requested …   version 0.14.1) with any of the following names: …     lxqtConfig.cmake …     lxqt-config.cmake …   Add the installation prefix of "lxqt" to CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH or set …   "lxqt_DIR" to a directory containing one of the above files.  If "lxqt" …   provides a separate development package or SDK, be sure it has been …   installed. … --19:12
lubot Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! … See also "/home/hmoller/lubuntuTest/globalkeys/lxqt-globalkeys/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".19:12
lubot<HMollerCl> any idea what I'm missing?19:12
lubot<RikMills> @HMollerCl [any idea what I'm missing?], https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=eoan&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=lxqt-Config.cmake19:15
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks @RikMills !19:16
wxlit might help in general to `sudo apt build-dep lxqt-globalkeys`19:18
wxls/\(apt\)/\1-get/19:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> it might help in general to `sudo apt build-dep lxqt-globalkeys`], Yup! This should be run before trying to build.19:43
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker tested, https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/issues/142 in git the problem is solved probably because of https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/commit/b924f8cd41474d2fe4d8e0a6f52a131bd6f50f7919:53
lubot<HMollerCl> I asked for a new release, I hope they will probvide it soon. if not, we will have to apply all of their patches.19:54
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: that work even if it's not debian?19:55
wxl@HMollerCl are you asking about apt-get build-dep?19:56
lubot<HMollerCl> yes19:56
wxlyes19:56
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [I asked for a new release, I hope they will provide it soon. if not, we will hav …], I had asked for a release long ago. Haven't recieved anything else than "soon". … Yeah I understand that those guys are also busy but instead of applying these patches, I think it would be far better if we have a clean new rele19:56
lubotase from upstream19:56
wxlthe only caveat is that it will only give you the build dependencies for the version int he archives19:56
wxlso for example if debian is on a version that has different build dependencies because it's more closely tied to the upstream version, when you run that in ubuntu you won't get those differences19:57
wxli think honestly, folks, it's unlikely to imagine a new release of anything coming anytime soon19:57
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Nevertheless, I will get that patch as soon as I am free. I have only this and screensaver on my plate so will try to complete them asap.19:58
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> i think honestly, folks, it's unlikely to imagine a new release of anythin …], But sooo many patches.. -_-19:58
wxli know...19:59
lubot<HMollerCl> couldn't we make a "metapatch"19:59
lubot<HMollerCl> ?19:59
wxli don't advise it19:59
wxlpull-in-a-bunch-of-stuff-that-may-or-may-not-fix-the-problem-we-are-having.patch is not very inspiring20:00
lubot<HMollerCl> sigh20:01
wxli know...20:01
lubot<HMollerCl> w/o translations are 18 patches.20:01
wxlif we do them in sequence, it should just work20:02
wxland maybe what we should start doing is just getting in all the patches all the time20:02
wxlwe can always drop patches20:03
lubot<HMollerCl> is there a way to automate it? like a watcher?20:04
lubot<HMollerCl> maybe automate it for CI?20:04
wxlthat is exactly what we could do20:04
wxlthat's essentially what kubuntu does20:04
wxlbasically they're always looking at their ci and when there's a failure, they fix the packaging20:05
wxlsince i know simon is interested in messing with ci, that would be a good job for him20:05
lubot<HMollerCl> we should invoke @tsimonq2 then, know that he can see....20:06
lubot<HMollerCl> *now20:07
lubot<HMollerCl> (when telegram messages are edited, they change in irc also?)20:07
wxlnope20:07
lubot<lynorian> no they don't20:07
lubot<lynorian> I don't think that is possible20:08
wxlwell it could send a message like "Edited: foo -> bar" but that'd be annoying20:08
lubot<tsimonq2> Not sure where y'all are going with this20:08
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 basically there is an issue with shorcuts that is solved upstream but means applying 18 patches (w/o translations)20:14
lubot<HMollerCl> Sowxl, was thinking that we might bring always the pacthes to CI20:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> if we do them in sequence, it should just work], We create a single patch including all the previous commits till the required commit and apply it right?20:15
lubot<HMollerCl> we add all the patches in 1 commit20:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 basically there is an issue with shorcuts that is solved upstream but …], I had counted 14 something I remember before getting that xdg patch which wxl pulled in.20:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> umm elaborate please?20:17
lubot<HMollerCl> yes, but there is this one which is also handy https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/commit/7ce4ff1461309b81d317f940aeabb3e10e242d4e20:17
lubot<HMollerCl> @The_LoudSpeaker [umm elaborate please?], fo every patch in upstream we need to create one .patch file20:18
lubot<HMollerCl> *for20:18
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 basically there is an issue with shorcuts that is solved upstream but …], Ho Lee F20:18
lubot<tsimonq2> That's kind of insane20:18
lubot<tsimonq2> Just do a new orig tar with a snapshot20:18
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [Just do a new orig tar with a snapshot], that's new to me. NAd believe that for @The_LoudSpeaker too.20:19
lubot<HMollerCl> NAd/and20:19
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [fo every patch in upstream we need to create one .patch file], but we can also create a master patch including all the patches right? like git `diff COMMIT1 COMMIT2^ > patchname.patch` creates a patch which includes all the changes from commit1 to commit2 right?  … We can apply that na?20:20
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [that's new to me. NAd believe that for @The_LoudSpeaker too.], yup! but I have a bit of Idea, what I understand is, creating a new orig.tar from the source which has the fix.  Like I had created one for grub-theme? Am I right?20:23
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [but we can also create a master patch including all the patches right? like git …], That's Bad Practice20:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 [That's Bad Practice], why?20:23
lubot<tsimonq2> Very difficult to modify20:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> ohh yeah.20:23
lubot<tsimonq2> I'll explain later, it's complicated20:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> had that while adding xdg patch20:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> but I was able to modify it by hand and wasn't that hard also. maybe we can try for this also.20:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> shit. I just contradicted my self.20:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> f20:24
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [shit. I just contradicted my self.], language :)20:25
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> haa. sorry.20:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb0e15ade1478: Update show desktop shortcut] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb0e15ade147820:25
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [yup! but I have a bit of Idea, what I understand is, creating a new orig.tar fro …], was this correct @tsimonq2 ?20:32
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [was this correct @tsimonq2 ?], Yes20:32
lubot<tsimonq2> Be careful to do a correct version number though and not include .git20:33
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> yup! noted. but should we actually do that? I mean won't it cause problems while updating to newer release provided by upstream and also it's upstream's job na to give the orig tarball .20:35
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [yup! noted. but should we actually do that? I mean won't it cause problems while …], Nope20:35
lubot<tsimonq2> I've done it before20:35
lubot<tsimonq2> The question you should be asking is, does it provide a public API?20:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> what's that now?20:35
lubot<tsimonq2> If so, does it break its reverse dependencies?20:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wowow20:35
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> english please20:35
lubot<tsimonq2> Does a package depend on the code that this package provides?20:36
lubot<tsimonq2> And does it depend on that code being at least someone stable?20:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> ohh say it like that na.20:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> we will have to find out what packages depend on globalkeys then20:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> and what were you telling about API?20:38
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker here's a random example of bumping (increasing) the API/ABI version https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/19d91bb72d1dc944e6b0c7ea44f3db0dfb92e85a21:01
The_LoudSpeakerNoted.21:02
wxli'm not seeing that globalkeys really has either21:02
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL255d99e3154a: Add qterminal find screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL255d99e3154a23:29
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