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[00:57] <lynorian> tfw I find a feature even I did not know existed on lxqt panel
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 @HMollerCl [<reply to image>], This in a vm?
 @HMollerCl [after 2nd reboot neither runner nor menu works. Althogh NONE of them are duplica …], Try restarting runner once. From session settings.
 Also, same for panel.
 I am sorry I don't have my test system near me and can't test. I will try to look into this once I am free and have my hands on the system. Mostly just before Dusshera i.e 5th.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [This in a vm?], Yes
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Try restarting runner once. From session settings.], Yes that still works
 @HMollerCl [Yes], Check on bare metal, last time I checked, super key survived reboots.
 @HMollerCl [Yes that still works], Noted.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Check on bare metal, last time I checked, super key survived reboots.], Will try (I don't see why it should be different), but if it works we still need to solve it in vm
 @HMollerCl [Will try (I don't see why it should be different), but if it works we still need …], I did face that difference in my vm and test machine so. Just a try.
 @HMollerCl [Will try (I don't see why it should be different), but if it works we still need …], Yup! We will need to solve it in a vm.
[10:32] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Beta] has been updated (20190925)
 @The_LoudSpeaker erasing ~./config/lxqt/globalkeys.conf and reboot make things work again.
[12:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> lke everything works? even after multiple reboots?
 haven't tried multiple reboot, but I believe multiple reoots will make it fail again
[12:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> hmmm. Noted.
[13:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> is there any option in cala to see the things that are happening in the background? It currently shows : :filling filesystems" or "installing bootloader", etc. In prevous installer there was an option to see the details, something like a details button which would show the commands running behind the scenes in a dialoguebox below it.
 @The_LoudSpeaker I thought you where studying.... ;)
[13:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> I am.
[13:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> but I am also setting up a vm in the background.
[13:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#2393
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> 1st boot: everything works
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> 1st reboot:
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> browser and qps repeated. runner italics. but repeated ones work. only runner doesn't
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> restarted runner from session settings, it fixed it.
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> 2nd reboot:
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> browser, qps, lock, terminal, pcmanfm-qt, print, brightness, calculator, homepage, mail, mycomputer repeated
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> all /panel/ shortcuts and runner italics.
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> repeated ones work. italics one don't
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> restarting panel and runner fixes them
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> reboot 3:
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> exactly same as reboot 2 except that the repeated entries for each increased by 1(ctrl+alt+b is still only repeated once.)
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> same fix
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> now, deleted the local globalkeys config before restarting.
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> reboot 4
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> everything works.
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> reboot 5:
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> same as reboot 2.
 Fwd from Inq_bot: <The_LoudSpeaker> Cycle repeats.
[14:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> this is the observation right @HMollerCl ?
 yes
 as strange as it can be
[14:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will checkout more after 5 now. I just had sometime to test so did this and edited draft beta announcement. Will be gone now. tag me here if you find aything.
[14:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> *anything
[14:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, @lynorian, can you please update the manual to include the updated shortcuts? I will create a paste with list and tag you. Links to that man page will be required in the announcement.
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/P47
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[16:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL980e2df86885: Specify qterminal as terminal you open] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL980e2df86885
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[17:02] <wxl> ^ briefly read that and whoa, that's the weirdest thing i've ever heard of.
[17:03] <wxl> anyone check this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1841672
[17:03] <lynorian> what is that wxl?
[17:03] <wxl> @lynorian: the weird cyclic behavior of shortcuts across reboots
 @wxl [<wxl> @lynorian: the weird cyclic behavior of shortcuts across reboots], actualyy login/logout does the same
 @The_LoudSpeaker did you have compiled lxat-globalkeys from git? I want to test if problem is solved wih it.
 Did I need to create package or can compile directly from git?
 also wxl, do you know? ^
 You can directly compile and install from git.
 cmake gives me an error
 cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr .  … CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:27 (find_package): …   By not providing "Findlxqt.cmake" in CMAKE_MODULE_PATH this project has …   asked CMake to find a package configuration file provided by "lxqt", but …   CMake did not find one. …   Could not find a package configuration file provided by "lxqt
 any idea what I'm missing?
 @HMollerCl [any idea what I'm missing?], https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=eoan&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=lxqt-Config.cmake
 thanks @RikMills !
[19:18] <wxl> it might help in general to `sudo apt build-dep lxqt-globalkeys`
[19:18] <wxl> s/\(apt\)/\1-get/
 @wxl [<wxl> it might help in general to `sudo apt build-dep lxqt-globalkeys`], Yup! This should be run before trying to build.
 @The_LoudSpeaker tested, https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/issues/142 in git the problem is solved probably because of https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/commit/b924f8cd41474d2fe4d8e0a6f52a131bd6f50f79
 I asked for a new release, I hope they will probvide it soon. if not, we will have to apply all of their patches.
 wxl: that work even if it's not debian?
[19:56] <wxl> @HMollerCl are you asking about apt-get build-dep?
 yes
[19:56] <wxl> yes
 @HMollerCl [I asked for a new release, I hope they will provide it soon. if not, we will hav …], I had asked for a release long ago. Haven't recieved anything else than "soon". … Yeah I understand that those guys are also busy but instead of applying these patches, I think it would be far better if we have a clean new rele
[19:56] <wxl> the only caveat is that it will only give you the build dependencies for the version int he archives
[19:57] <wxl> so for example if debian is on a version that has different build dependencies because it's more closely tied to the upstream version, when you run that in ubuntu you won't get those differences
[19:57] <wxl> i think honestly, folks, it's unlikely to imagine a new release of anything coming anytime soon
 Nevertheless, I will get that patch as soon as I am free. I have only this and screensaver on my plate so will try to complete them asap.
 @wxl [<wxl> i think honestly, folks, it's unlikely to imagine a new release of anythin …], But sooo many patches.. -_-
[19:59] <wxl> i know...
 couldn't we make a "metapatch"
 ?
[19:59] <wxl> i don't advise it
[20:00] <wxl> pull-in-a-bunch-of-stuff-that-may-or-may-not-fix-the-problem-we-are-having.patch is not very inspiring
 sigh
[20:01] <wxl> i know...
 w/o translations are 18 patches.
[20:02] <wxl> if we do them in sequence, it should just work
[20:02] <wxl> and maybe what we should start doing is just getting in all the patches all the time
[20:03] <wxl> we can always drop patches
 is there a way to automate it? like a watcher?
 maybe automate it for CI?
[20:04] <wxl> that is exactly what we could do
[20:04] <wxl> that's essentially what kubuntu does
[20:05] <wxl> basically they're always looking at their ci and when there's a failure, they fix the packaging
[20:05] <wxl> since i know simon is interested in messing with ci, that would be a good job for him
 we should invoke @tsimonq2 then, know that he can see....
 *now
 (when telegram messages are edited, they change in irc also?)
[20:07] <wxl> nope
 no they don't
 I don't think that is possible
[20:08] <wxl> well it could send a message like "Edited: foo -> bar" but that'd be annoying
 Not sure where y'all are going with this
 @tsimonq2 basically there is an issue with shorcuts that is solved upstream but means applying 18 patches (w/o translations)
 Sowxl, was thinking that we might bring always the pacthes to CI
 @wxl [<wxl> if we do them in sequence, it should just work], We create a single patch including all the previous commits till the required commit and apply it right?
 we add all the patches in 1 commit
 @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 basically there is an issue with shorcuts that is solved upstream but …], I had counted 14 something I remember before getting that xdg patch which wxl pulled in.
 umm elaborate please?
 yes, but there is this one which is also handy https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/commit/7ce4ff1461309b81d317f940aeabb3e10e242d4e
 @The_LoudSpeaker [umm elaborate please?], fo every patch in upstream we need to create one .patch file
 *for
 @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 basically there is an issue with shorcuts that is solved upstream but …], Ho Lee F
 That's kind of insane
 Just do a new orig tar with a snapshot
 @tsimonq2 [Just do a new orig tar with a snapshot], that's new to me. NAd believe that for @The_LoudSpeaker too.
 NAd/and
 @HMollerCl [fo every patch in upstream we need to create one .patch file], but we can also create a master patch including all the patches right? like git `diff COMMIT1 COMMIT2^ > patchname.patch` creates a patch which includes all the changes from commit1 to commit2 right?  … We can apply that na?
 @HMollerCl [that's new to me. NAd believe that for @The_LoudSpeaker too.], yup! but I have a bit of Idea, what I understand is, creating a new orig.tar from the source which has the fix.  Like I had created one for grub-theme? Am I right?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [but we can also create a master patch including all the patches right? like git …], That's Bad Practice
 @tsimonq2 [That's Bad Practice], why?
 Very difficult to modify
 ohh yeah.
 I'll explain later, it's complicated
 had that while adding xdg patch
 but I was able to modify it by hand and wasn't that hard also. maybe we can try for this also.
 shit. I just contradicted my self.
 f
 @The_LoudSpeaker [shit. I just contradicted my self.], language :)
 haa. sorry.
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 @The_LoudSpeaker [yup! but I have a bit of Idea, what I understand is, creating a new orig.tar fro …], was this correct @tsimonq2 ?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [was this correct @tsimonq2 ?], Yes
 Be careful to do a correct version number though and not include .git
 yup! noted. but should we actually do that? I mean won't it cause problems while updating to newer release provided by upstream and also it's upstream's job na to give the orig tarball .
 @The_LoudSpeaker [yup! noted. but should we actually do that? I mean won't it cause problems while …], Nope
 I've done it before
 The question you should be asking is, does it provide a public API?
 what's that now?
 If so, does it break its reverse dependencies?
 wowow
 english please
 Does a package depend on the code that this package provides?
 And does it depend on that code being at least someone stable?
 ohh say it like that na.
 we will have to find out what packages depend on globalkeys then
 and what were you telling about API?
[21:01] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker here's a random example of bumping (increasing) the API/ABI version https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/commit/19d91bb72d1dc944e6b0c7ea44f3db0dfb92e85a
[21:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> Noted.
[21:02] <wxl> i'm not seeing that globalkeys really has either
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